>uses it all to build a butt ugly, nearly unusable ramp-podium centered on a teeny tiny trailer door.
I guess he really wanted to be the spotlight of the family gettogether, while flipping sausages.
honestly I respect the dad grind
I hate handicap people so much its unreal.
all that bullshit for a fricking 3% angle when you could just do a 6% angle and go straight from driveway to the top.
For that much money I'd already own an electric chair and a backup. Using wood is moronic since it's termite food and most of that deck isn't even wheelchair accessible thanks to the stepped pyramid artgay design.
There being no reason to elevate the deck the smart play would be a concrete slab flat deck without steps and a fabricated steel ramp with round rails.
>stepped pyramid artgay design.
This. That deck design is absolutely moronic. They could have had a smaller staircase and increased the useable size of the deck by 4x and still used less lumber... Dismal.
Why not 2% or 1%? There has to be more to it than just "lower is better" since 3% isn't the lowest possible. >Well, it's a compromise.
How was the compromise decided upon? A dice roll?
>How was the compromise decided upon? A dice roll?
literally go push yourself around in a wheelchair for a day. then come back and tell us what works best.
Go wheel yourself around in a wheelchair for the rest of your life then tell use which grade you prefer.
Nannying old and handicapped people too much makes them weak and quicker to die.
It should be 10% everywhere. Just roll up the ramp with a running start.
Wheelchair people do it daily though. Sure it's a hurdle for someone who's recently been crippled but for the ones that have been at it for a while, their arms are their legs
OK I want as close to zero everywhere. Flatten the USA to a AA surface plate as per the ADA.
That wasn't his point at all. Was it determined by a survey? Did some engineers and fitness experts get together and determine that this is the optimal height gain over strength requirement? Was it determined by the acceleration that would occur if someone in a wheelchair took their hands off the wheel while on the slope? (which would be a genuine safety concern, at the top of a slope, if someone let go of the wheel and free-rolled down it, how fast would they be going when they reach the end of the slope and slam into the railing?)
I had to wheel myself in a wheelchair for years, I literally do not give a shit. It is fat sacks of shit incapable of adapting to their disability that can't handle over a 3% grade.
>Go wheel yourself around in a wheelchair
I gave it a shot and the only thing I really struggled with doing is going up and down stairs. I enjoyed going on two wheels everywhere.
ADA standard set a maximum slope of 8.33% to be compliant. 6.25% is the preferred slope, as it balances distance against potential slippage. Anything lower than 5% isn't even considered a ramp. People with specific disabilities might consider values higher or lower than these for their home depending on their individual preferences and requirements.
who takes about ramps as percentages? 1:12 slope is standard and is about 8% which is more than likely what is pictured here.
terrible overall design. but not sure youre a good judge of why
It is the standard way of measuring elevation changes related to transportation in the US. Pic related has kilometers on it so maybe Canada does it too.
Degrees are a stupid unit. No builder uses sin or cos functions. Grade percent works regardless of unit. 3% grade means a 3 m drop over a 100 m run. Or 3 yards over 100 yards. I don't know a country that does it differently.
Hey. I'm "handy capped". I also have an IQ of 140+ (Dad is just somewhere north of 190), there's no cancer in my senpai at least back to when cancer became a thing.
"Exhale".
ADA standard set a maximum slope of 8.33% to be compliant. 6.25% is the preferred slope, as it balances distance against potential slippage. Anything lower than 5% isn't even considered a ramp. People with specific disabilities might consider values higher or lower than these for their home depending on their individual preferences and requirements.
>ADA standard
Explain all the work cities are doing on already compliant wheelchair ramps.
Existing ramps built to ADA standards.
Problem: Blind people will walk off the end of them and into traffic.
Solution: rubber mats with bumps. Grind off 1/2" of concrete. Glue down mat. Job done. Crew of a couple of guys can do one or two intersections a day.
Fat acceptance people scream: Nooooo! You've got to jack hammer up 20 feet of pavement and rebuild sidewalks with thicker concrete and more rebar.
Not because of the width or slope (it's still the same). It's because the fat wagons can actually break up standard concrete sidewalks with their weight. Some are actually small electric trucks.
So, what do we design for? There is no ADA upper limit on the weight of a fat wagon ... er, mobility scooter.
The US government has created fat people by gutting every educational resource imaginable and allowing large swaths of the populace to be incapable of reading the newspaper, yet alone a nutrition label. I've worked with some landwhales and the shit they say about food is so insane that I almost think they're joking. You can't design for fat people because they are such an insane outlier of what normal people are supposed to be. They're never gonna go away (because they're the perfect dumb cattle) and they'll never be happy (because they're fat)
>maximum slope of 8.33%
if you have to go up a meter, you'll need a 12 meter slope for those wheeltards? frick that, the street i live on is steeper than that as well. (up to 12%)
Civil anon here. We only consider the ADA curb ramps at the corners. If a street is really steep, it is what it is. we aren't modifying the sidewalk. If the ramp ends up being a higher slope than ADA allowances, then tough shit. We note it and move on.
My budget is fricked because of all this ADA shit.
Yeah, it's heart-warming to look at. But the ramp should be mirrored so it goes along the side of the trailer. If you're going to have that pyramid design, don't block off an entire side of it.
imagine wheeling yourself out the door, Jackass style, only to land in the base of that monstrous ziggurat face down, and start shouting "aaaaaaw, I can't feel my legs"
>must feel like a total jackass wheeling yourself up that thing for 10 minutes a day
Pretty sure disabled people feel pretty shitty about their situation daily. But from being a europoor, I know how shitty winters can be. Slippery rainy icy shit, everywhere. So if I would be in a wheelchair, id happily have this abomenation over a slope of death down to the road below.
At least we can agree on this shit being built sturdy as frick, and surely would last 150 years without maintainance. Unlike ameritard matchbox designs™.
Smart cripples (I'm not yet wheelchair bound but will be) would anchor a stainless cable then mount a simple capstan winch to their chair for easy hand or electric cranking with positive control not requiring wheel friction.
Build your shop and home for WHEN you become gimp. It will also be more convenient for non-crippled users.
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Add a grappling hook and electric winch to your future wheelchair.
> hur dur sticks
States still have trees, when, through multiple bankers wars, you cut all yours down. Except for some parts of the scandi countries, a bit of natural forest in southern poland, there's not much natural forest left. Lots of monoculture replanting, but that's not sustainable. Around the 3rd generation, the population collapses.
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There's basically no natural forests left in North America either
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Our lumber industry replants enough to replace lumber forests, at least.
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thats not at all a natural forest... the ecosystem has been completely nuked
Same as farmland or subdivisions
> There's no native forests left on north america
The Provinces up north, my dude.
Canada has very little left either
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> canada has little left
American companies open up shell subsidiary companies, lease the land from the can. government, clear cut it, turn it into toilet paper, then bankrupt the shell out of existence and never replant as required by the lease. Can government knows this will happen, continues to do it.
I don't know. Everyone who I know who has a wheelchair has a huge aluminum ramp like this
https://i.imgur.com/PyaZfno.jpg
Amateurs! In Bongistan they don't make ramps out of matchsticks like in Bugerland.
Older houses don't have this, instead they have something like picrel. With the cost of materials I can't imagine getting one of these crappy steel lifts is that much more expensive.
Amateurs! In Bongistan they don't make ramps out of matchsticks like in Bugerland.
, it was a local government being dicks. They placed a disabled child in that house (it's government housing) but she was wheelchair bound and could not get up and down the stairs. Her mom asked for years to be switched to another home nearby without stairs, of which there were plenty. Instead of doing that, the council spent something like $60,000 on ramps and obliterated the lawn in the process. The kid and family now can bypass the steps but instead have all those long runs to go back and forth across. I'm not 100% sure the council was being a bunch of dicks, they might just be incompetent and have other people's money to spend so why would they care?
This works for people who can walk but cannot use the stairs, or for indoors where people can have a wheelchair on every floor, provided that they can transfer from the chair to the lift. Outside, the person would have to leave their wheelchair down.
If they do not have a condominium property act, half the roof belongs to one person, the other half to the other person. Usually owners will coordinate work and try to keep a cohesive look and function, but in this case maybe the terracotta was damaged on the right side and that owner was not willing to shell out as much money so they went with asphalt shingles instead.
It's council housing in the UK, though it might be possible that one side was sold to a private individual while the side with the ramps stayed under council ownership. If both sides are council owned, perhaps one side needed repairs and the council used whatever was on hand or hired the lowest bidder for the job and they used whatever they had in stock or could get cheaply.
I would not be surprised. Governments love to piss away money on programs in a way to justify their budgets but when it comes to actually building and making stuff on the small individual scale they become the stingiest.
yea you walk around these public housing and you see the most moronic over built shit
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I used to work for a company that sprayed truck bed linings. At some point the county paid them to spray all the decks in a section 8 housing complex with bedliner. Would not surprise me if they paid at least $5,000 per deck.
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Man imagine taking a digger as a sprinting 4 year old on a giant truck bed
near my grandparents there's the exact same thing except the height difference is more than 5m, kind of sucks pusing your bicycle up there but it's better than nothing
maybe i was wrong because i don't see a slit for the wheels
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wouldn't work for bicycles. the brick wall or the handrail, you pick which one to bang your handlebars into
it must be to encourage SOCIAL DISTANCING
I think it's probably for hand trucks.
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It's for handcarts, so vangays can deliver goyslop to whatever bodega is on top of the stairs.
Tilt the bicycle
It's for fricking baby prams and strollers you sexless homosexuals.
It's almost as if the guy who commissioned this saw pic related, then told a contractor I want this kind of deck. And then later realized the trailer is way too high off the ground, and you'd need more than 3 steps, but didn't know if they should place the extra steps near the ground or near the door, and decided to split the difference and place them all over. Then half way through the build after spending $50k the contractor got greedy and said to himself "I bet if I told him he needed a ramp to be up to code I could get another $20k out of this moron"
>all these homosexuals b***hing about it being inefficient
yeah we should build everything Soviet Russia style, just pure efficiency and optimizing everything. it should just be a rope pulley to get him into the house, to save materials.
It's so fricking ugly .... you're fricking rich, have a normal concrete stairs installed into the hill with something less obnoxious. You don't need a fricking roof on it, you're going outside.
if i were handicapped i feel like i would prefer a few more degrees of incline instead of 100 unnecessary and ugly turns. why the hell is the deck all steps anyway, rather than usable space??
This tiered deck design is a way to get around permits and bylaws. They’re going to claim the size of the deck is the top part, and the height of the deck is the first stair.
I see a lot of crazy designs like this, specifically to avoid permits (low decks don’t need a permit) and size limitations.
That would take 2 men about 4 weeks to build, and that's around 10k in lumber, screws, brackets and concrete. Oh and you might need a surveyor to look at the land for any pipes or electrical below.
Are you forgetting planning the layout, digging the holes and putting in the concrete footings? It’s probably almost a week before the first post can be put up.
Someone cared about design, craft, and finish on this deck. In OP all the contractor heard was "multilevel deck" and "wheelchair ramp." He'll take his money and check the boxes he needs to despite building that half bunk of eyesore
I think the smartest move would have been to build some retaining walls and add a lot of earth so the drive can ramp all the way to entrance height. Then roll the owner straight in and out.
That's a LOT of lumber though, easily over 10k just in materials
>uses it all to build a butt ugly, nearly unusable ramp-podium centered on a teeny tiny trailer door.
I guess he really wanted to be the spotlight of the family gettogether, while flipping sausages.
honestly I respect the dad grind
Kek moronic indeed. At this point just install a winch instead of this Roller Coaster Tycoon noob shit
I hate handicap people so much its unreal.
all that bullshit for a fricking 3% angle when you could just do a 6% angle and go straight from driveway to the top.
Any idea how the 3% standard was set? Empirical research or someone pulling a number out of their ass?
Go wheel yourself around in a wheelchair for the rest of your life then tell use which grade you prefer.
For that much money I'd already own an electric chair and a backup. Using wood is moronic since it's termite food and most of that deck isn't even wheelchair accessible thanks to the stepped pyramid artgay design.
There being no reason to elevate the deck the smart play would be a concrete slab flat deck without steps and a fabricated steel ramp with round rails.
>stepped pyramid artgay design.
This. That deck design is absolutely moronic. They could have had a smaller staircase and increased the useable size of the deck by 4x and still used less lumber... Dismal.
>For that much money I'd already own an electric chair and a backup
Electrical wheelchairs are prone to failure in rain and salt water which is why I recommend coal powered wheelchairs
>800lb electric wheelchair
>25lb wheelchair
there is a reason you see a lot of cripples in the ~10lb aero light if they can
Why not 2% or 1%? There has to be more to it than just "lower is better" since 3% isn't the lowest possible.
>Well, it's a compromise.
How was the compromise decided upon? A dice roll?
>How was the compromise decided upon? A dice roll?
literally go push yourself around in a wheelchair for a day. then come back and tell us what works best.
Nannying old and handicapped people too much makes them weak and quicker to die.
It should be 10% everywhere. Just roll up the ramp with a running start.
>Nannying old and handicapped people too much
>only 37 steps
The last three are on the ambulance
nothing better than arm muscle gains
Wheelchair people do it daily though. Sure it's a hurdle for someone who's recently been crippled but for the ones that have been at it for a while, their arms are their legs
OK I want as close to zero everywhere. Flatten the USA to a AA surface plate as per the ADA.
That wasn't his point at all. Was it determined by a survey? Did some engineers and fitness experts get together and determine that this is the optimal height gain over strength requirement? Was it determined by the acceleration that would occur if someone in a wheelchair took their hands off the wheel while on the slope? (which would be a genuine safety concern, at the top of a slope, if someone let go of the wheel and free-rolled down it, how fast would they be going when they reach the end of the slope and slam into the railing?)
I had to wheel myself in a wheelchair for years, I literally do not give a shit. It is fat sacks of shit incapable of adapting to their disability that can't handle over a 3% grade.
>Go wheel yourself around in a wheelchair
I gave it a shot and the only thing I really struggled with doing is going up and down stairs. I enjoyed going on two wheels everywhere.
For this much money an outdoor lift would be fine surely
3% was painstakingly calculated to be optimum by scientists at Wilford Brimley University.
wait is it actually 3% because that number just came to me, probably out of my ass
No, see
Just so I'm not misreading, by 3% do you mean "3 degrees" or is this some terminology specific for grades?
It is the standard way of measuring elevation changes related to transportation in the US. Pic related has kilometers on it so maybe Canada does it too.
bro im not a truck im just old and dont want to fall down!
Degrees are a stupid unit. No builder uses sin or cos functions. Grade percent works regardless of unit. 3% grade means a 3 m drop over a 100 m run. Or 3 yards over 100 yards. I don't know a country that does it differently.
it's probably not even an actual cripple, and just some hog that needs to ride a scooter that can't handle an incline like that lugging 500lbs.
Hey. I'm "handy capped". I also have an IQ of 140+ (Dad is just somewhere north of 190), there's no cancer in my senpai at least back to when cancer became a thing.
"Exhale".
>not just building a sick half pipe instead
who takes about ramps as percentages? 1:12 slope is standard and is about 8% which is more than likely what is pictured here.
terrible overall design. but not sure youre a good judge of why
Nobody gonna mention for tight the turns are for an already very narrow ramp? No wheelchair is ever gonna fit through there.
Eternal boomer strikes again. That is over the top.
>wheelchair ramp
>build massive elaborate multi-tiered deck
kek. its minimal deck and maximum steps ... for someone that's handicapped.
you forgot
>behind a trailer
ADA standard set a maximum slope of 8.33% to be compliant. 6.25% is the preferred slope, as it balances distance against potential slippage. Anything lower than 5% isn't even considered a ramp. People with specific disabilities might consider values higher or lower than these for their home depending on their individual preferences and requirements.
>ADA standard
Explain all the work cities are doing on already compliant wheelchair ramps.
Existing ramps built to ADA standards.
Problem: Blind people will walk off the end of them and into traffic.
Solution: rubber mats with bumps. Grind off 1/2" of concrete. Glue down mat. Job done. Crew of a couple of guys can do one or two intersections a day.
Fat acceptance people scream: Nooooo! You've got to jack hammer up 20 feet of pavement and rebuild sidewalks with thicker concrete and more rebar.
Not because of the width or slope (it's still the same). It's because the fat wagons can actually break up standard concrete sidewalks with their weight. Some are actually small electric trucks.
So, what do we design for? There is no ADA upper limit on the weight of a fat wagon ... er, mobility scooter.
>Explain all the work cities are doing on already compliant wheelchair ramps.
Governments like spending money.
Who cares about fatties? Just ignore them, or tell em to just lose weight for free entertainment.
The US government has created fat people by gutting every educational resource imaginable and allowing large swaths of the populace to be incapable of reading the newspaper, yet alone a nutrition label. I've worked with some landwhales and the shit they say about food is so insane that I almost think they're joking. You can't design for fat people because they are such an insane outlier of what normal people are supposed to be. They're never gonna go away (because they're the perfect dumb cattle) and they'll never be happy (because they're fat)
>33
>maximum slope of 8.33%
if you have to go up a meter, you'll need a 12 meter slope for those wheeltards? frick that, the street i live on is steeper than that as well. (up to 12%)
You also have to consider that wheelchairs have to get up there in the winter too when the ramp is potentially covered in ice.
Civil anon here. We only consider the ADA curb ramps at the corners. If a street is really steep, it is what it is. we aren't modifying the sidewalk. If the ramp ends up being a higher slope than ADA allowances, then tough shit. We note it and move on.
My budget is fricked because of all this ADA shit.
If the deck was a bit bigger it would make up for the house being a trailer.
That's the most hilarious thing about this picture, that huge elaborate deck & ramp for a fricking trailer house.
cant they just put one of those lifts for disabled people for less money and without making the whole place looking like an inland pier?
i wonder if it ever crossed this idiot mind, that maybe he should build his cardboard shed ABIT LOWER TO THE GROUND LEVEL
isn't it a trailer ?
Looks like West Virginia. Probably on a hillside.
That's enough lumber to straight up build a proper house at ground level.
>be in wheelchair
>have to stay in the tiny red zone
But WHY?
The cripple grandma stays in the house while the kids party on the massive deck. It's clever redneck design work.
Yeah, it's heart-warming to look at. But the ramp should be mirrored so it goes along the side of the trailer. If you're going to have that pyramid design, don't block off an entire side of it.
+1
imagine wheeling yourself out the door, Jackass style, only to land in the base of that monstrous ziggurat face down, and start shouting "aaaaaaw, I can't feel my legs"
This can still be fixed though, it's simply over designed and waste of wood.
The staircase shit going on irks me more than the ramp. How useless.
Amateurs! In Bongistan they don't make ramps out of matchsticks like in Bugerland.
No termite problems here.
must feel like a total jackass wheeling yourself up that thing for 10 minutes a day
>must feel like a total jackass wheeling yourself up that thing for 10 minutes a day
Pretty sure disabled people feel pretty shitty about their situation daily. But from being a europoor, I know how shitty winters can be. Slippery rainy icy shit, everywhere. So if I would be in a wheelchair, id happily have this abomenation over a slope of death down to the road below.
At least we can agree on this shit being built sturdy as frick, and surely would last 150 years without maintainance. Unlike ameritard matchbox designs™.
Smart cripples (I'm not yet wheelchair bound but will be) would anchor a stainless cable then mount a simple capstan winch to their chair for easy hand or electric cranking with positive control not requiring wheel friction.
Build your shop and home for WHEN you become gimp. It will also be more convenient for non-crippled users.
Add a grappling hook and electric winch to your future wheelchair.
> hur dur sticks
States still have trees, when, through multiple bankers wars, you cut all yours down. Except for some parts of the scandi countries, a bit of natural forest in southern poland, there's not much natural forest left. Lots of monoculture replanting, but that's not sustainable. Around the 3rd generation, the population collapses.
There's basically no natural forests left in North America either
Our lumber industry replants enough to replace lumber forests, at least.
thats not at all a natural forest... the ecosystem has been completely nuked
Same as farmland or subdivisions
Canada has very little left either
> canada has little left
American companies open up shell subsidiary companies, lease the land from the can. government, clear cut it, turn it into toilet paper, then bankrupt the shell out of existence and never replant as required by the lease. Can government knows this will happen, continues to do it.
> There's no native forests left on north america
The Provinces up north, my dude.
Why not just get a stairlift at that point?
>this shit drives me up the wall
I don't know. Everyone who I know who has a wheelchair has a huge aluminum ramp like this
Older houses don't have this, instead they have something like picrel. With the cost of materials I can't imagine getting one of these crappy steel lifts is that much more expensive.
For the ramp in
, it was a local government being dicks. They placed a disabled child in that house (it's government housing) but she was wheelchair bound and could not get up and down the stairs. Her mom asked for years to be switched to another home nearby without stairs, of which there were plenty. Instead of doing that, the council spent something like $60,000 on ramps and obliterated the lawn in the process. The kid and family now can bypass the steps but instead have all those long runs to go back and forth across. I'm not 100% sure the council was being a bunch of dicks, they might just be incompetent and have other people's money to spend so why would they care?
kek that shit is a good reason for murder
A completely justified one at that
My dad bought his aging parents a used one for about $5k around 2005.
Worked fine until they passed 15 years later
That looks extremely unsafe for anyone with children.
This works for people who can walk but cannot use the stairs, or for indoors where people can have a wheelchair on every floor, provided that they can transfer from the chair to the lift. Outside, the person would have to leave their wheelchair down.
just have another wheelchair on the upper floor Einstein
Yeah, just leave your wheelchair out in the rain. Plus you seem to forget that some people cannot transfer to another seat.
Gilf still looks good tho
>Never watched the stair scene in Gremlins
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Kek, that's the one. Nice. I call never see the stair chairs and not think of this scene.
what gets me is the two different roofs
Never seen an ada compliant roof before?
If they do not have a condominium property act, half the roof belongs to one person, the other half to the other person. Usually owners will coordinate work and try to keep a cohesive look and function, but in this case maybe the terracotta was damaged on the right side and that owner was not willing to shell out as much money so they went with asphalt shingles instead.
It's council housing in the UK, though it might be possible that one side was sold to a private individual while the side with the ramps stayed under council ownership. If both sides are council owned, perhaps one side needed repairs and the council used whatever was on hand or hired the lowest bidder for the job and they used whatever they had in stock or could get cheaply.
I would not be surprised. Governments love to piss away money on programs in a way to justify their budgets but when it comes to actually building and making stuff on the small individual scale they become the stingiest.
yea you walk around these public housing and you see the most moronic over built shit
I used to work for a company that sprayed truck bed linings. At some point the county paid them to spray all the decks in a section 8 housing complex with bedliner. Would not surprise me if they paid at least $5,000 per deck.
Man imagine taking a digger as a sprinting 4 year old on a giant truck bed
I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride
Don't be such pussies. Pic related is a perfectly workable solution.
pretty sure that's for bicycles
wouldn't work for bicycles. the brick wall or the handrail, you pick which one to bang your handlebars into
it must be to encourage SOCIAL DISTANCING
I think it's probably for hand trucks.
Tilt the bicycle
near my grandparents there's the exact same thing except the height difference is more than 5m, kind of sucks pusing your bicycle up there but it's better than nothing
maybe i was wrong because i don't see a slit for the wheels
It's for fricking baby prams and strollers you sexless homosexuals.
Being homosexuals implies they all have a sex. You can't be attracted to the same sex if you don't have a sex
It's for handcarts, so vangays can deliver goyslop to whatever bodega is on top of the stairs.
thats for bikes you fricking moron
why would a bike need two ramps?
this is soviet union, and this was for baby strollers, the metal side keeps the wheels in place
WAS Soviet Union which no longer exists.
That is the most unnecessary patio design I've ever seen
>putting a 30k deck on a double wide
boomers.
You can’t take it with you Sonny!
>Can't take it with you, won't leave anything for the kids to inherit, either
Fixed it (too lazy to fix the dumbass top 2 steps that keeps the cripple from the rest of the deck)
Where would the shed go?
Nice job moron the ramp will fail code.
Goddamn it who shat all over the stairs?!
frickin boomer ass porch...what about that horrific lawn though
Frick I hate that house architecture, why the frick is so common?
reminder americans are legally obligated to build this for other sharts in wheelchairs
wait you mutts have to tip tradies too? hahahaha
30k double wide more like
Nice of them to give the wheelchair four 90deg turns from the drive to the entrance.
It's almost as if the guy who commissioned this saw pic related, then told a contractor I want this kind of deck. And then later realized the trailer is way too high off the ground, and you'd need more than 3 steps, but didn't know if they should place the extra steps near the ground or near the door, and decided to split the difference and place them all over. Then half way through the build after spending $50k the contractor got greedy and said to himself "I bet if I told him he needed a ramp to be up to code I could get another $20k out of this moron"
how much is a basic square deck with a fence like that, say, 30' x 10'?
why didn't he just build the deck all at one height then have a ramp to it instead of to the door?
there is more building material in that deck than in the mobile home.
>all these homosexuals b***hing about it being inefficient
yeah we should build everything Soviet Russia style, just pure efficiency and optimizing everything. it should just be a rope pulley to get him into the house, to save materials.
dumbasses
Found the guy that got the check for building the deck
say what you will about boomers but they pay for their own moronic house additions, no banks or creditors or any gay shit like that
>hurr durr boomers
Take it away, Alan:
>no banks
lol, old people get loans for everything. They have 40+ years of credit history.
Get on my level, rampgays.
how do you get to the elevator?
who design these non functional attrocities?
There's a gate on the side of the car that swings open onto the deck.
i see that, now explain me how do you get up on that deck with your wheelchair?
Very carefully.
Wheelchair access isn't the purpose. It for getting from a lakehouse down to the lake and back where the hill is too steep or the owners too lazy.
no wonder you are all fat
Don't make me dunk you.
It's so fricking ugly .... you're fricking rich, have a normal concrete stairs installed into the hill with something less obnoxious. You don't need a fricking roof on it, you're going outside.
What a fricking abomination.
Why do you guys hate fat people so much? Isn't using as many resources as possible for yourself like the ultimate point of being free and liberated?
that's the thing, you should USE those resources, not EAT them, fatso
Because they are mental defectives and moral weaklings whose choice to self-mutilate is laughable.
>Isn't using as many resources as possible for yourself like the ultimate point of being free and liberated?
Not even slightly.
>free and liberated
>can't move or stand without being exhausted
>can't run
>cant sit in kino chair, pic rel
About half the value of the trailer they live in.
if i were handicapped i feel like i would prefer a few more degrees of incline instead of 100 unnecessary and ugly turns. why the hell is the deck all steps anyway, rather than usable space??
just drop million pounds of dirt around the house
They could have saved 15-20k.
I'd like to see those welds holding that plate up.
and had a better looking yard without a wooden maze of ramps and railings
Do you "people" ever read threads before commenting in them?
Why would you build a deck that's half steps?
It's such a pointless waste of wood and space.
Owner supplied plans
This tiered deck design is a way to get around permits and bylaws. They’re going to claim the size of the deck is the top part, and the height of the deck is the first stair.
I see a lot of crazy designs like this, specifically to avoid permits (low decks don’t need a permit) and size limitations.
why are permits so hard?
because the US sucks and is filled with people that need to control every minute detail of your life.
>custom deck
>wheelchair ramp
>shitty mobile home
wtf?
That would take 2 men about 4 weeks to build, and that's around 10k in lumber, screws, brackets and concrete. Oh and you might need a surveyor to look at the land for any pipes or electrical below.
So yeah 30k is about right.
>4 weeks
what
Are you forgetting planning the layout, digging the holes and putting in the concrete footings? It’s probably almost a week before the first post can be put up.
Wtf is the point of so many stairs. Why not have a deck/patio that you can actually use.
saving this one for inspiration. Nice looking smaller deck
Someone cared about design, craft, and finish on this deck. In OP all the contractor heard was "multilevel deck" and "wheelchair ramp." He'll take his money and check the boxes he needs to despite building that half bunk of eyesore
I think the smartest move would have been to build some retaining walls and add a lot of earth so the drive can ramp all the way to entrance height. Then roll the owner straight in and out.
The Hickggurat
All that impregnated wood with ground contact.
Looks like a polack built that.
I see a stepped garden platform with continuous irrigation possibilities. I like it, and I don't care what you mean people think.
Into the trash it goes.
I know where you are N*****
This is the most moronic thing I have seen in a while.