tfw you price out a DIY project and realize it's cheaper to just buy it premade on Amazon
tfw you price out a DIY project and realize it's cheaper to just buy it premade on Amazon
tfw you price out a DIY project and realize it's cheaper to just buy it premade on Amazon
So? I’ll do a better job and know how to fix it when it breaks plus then I have something to do. Unless it’s some stupid bullshit I don’t care about where I’m only interested in getting cheapest option, then Chinese made slave labor shit all the way of course
The point of DIY is to use it wisely. If in fact DIY has testable advantages worth time and resources expended I DIY. If DIY will usefully improve my skillset I may DIY.
Plenty of quality items are also available via Amazon.
^Wisdom
With electronics, it's never cheaper to diy and many people dunning krueger HARD on the subject. They build shit and don't understand how they are going to burn their house down because they think a rectifier with just a diode and cap is acceptable for anything besides learning the theory at the most basic level. That GreatScott youtuber is the perfect example...he is teaching millions of people how to make absolute dogshit.
>That GreatScott youtuber is the perfect example...he is teaching millions of people how to make absolute dogshit.
So I went over there expecting to find a blowhard, but the ONE video I watched was kinda decent. I'm not disagreeing with you, just commenting that he's more watchable for me than most of the rest.
im surprised he managed to rip off photonic induction without killing himself
>it's never cheaper to diy
who ever fricking said it was? 12 year old chinese kid > anything you can put together
also suck a bag of dicks, greatscott is probably one of the only decent electronics youtuber there is
>who ever fricking said it was?
Not that anon, but people harp this shit all the time.
It wasnt true a decade ago, it definitely isnt after the prices of everything jacking up for the last 10 years.
laughs in bigclivedotcom
Depends on what it is though. Like when I build furniture bullshit, I could buy one made of pressed shredded cardboard for about the cost of a can of stain and a can of polyurethane, but that Amazon bullshit will be all wobbly in 3 weeks and completely fricked in 18mos and mine will be all wobbly for at least a decade.
Consumables and tools add up, but it’s an up front cost and you can snag stuff during sales and clearance and it won’t hurt as bad when you have half the supplies you need for a project.
Feel satisfaction in the sense you're not contributing to the chang war machine
> zheng’s war machine
It’s not us that did it. It’s all the US companies that did it.
I’m guilt free buying chinese stuff, since it’s the same as the the US branded stuff except 3 times the price that goes to CEOs of holding/middlemen companies.
Oh no not the self-sinking watercraft and boomerang missiles
Some things aren't available on Amazon and that is where you have to diy it. Sometimes you can put a few items you purchase together in new ways to make what you need, or customize something for a different purpose than what it was intended for. And sometimes you gotta make what you need from scratch.
Thats the hard truth. PrepHole is shit for a large majority of stuff.
Set your sights higher, why are you wasting time trying to build random economy shit you can buy at walmart?
You can fabricate anything in the world, you can build something nobody else has. You can design new tools and jigs and fixtures. You can really do something interesting.
Instead you are building a 2x4 coffee table?
Gatekeeping exists for a reason, the maker movement is for homosexuals
^Wisdom
I think the point is to make things that are not sold
The point is optimal results for a given input condition set.
>yes and if you hold a decent job your labour costs mean that nothing is worth doing yourself
That's absurd for skilled humans who DIY for optimization, control, and get costs so low and execution so convenient outsourcing makes zero financial sense. Money alone doesn't give the kind of granular control a serious person can bring to the game. For example I became a mechanic after overpaying for shit work.
No "decent job" makes people appear who can do what I require to my standard, nor does subbing out work ensure I know the entire process in every detail which I get by doing.
For example I am the last vintage British motorcycle mechanic in my area and do excellent work. My life and paid off property and low overhead demonstrate effective DIY is a fine way to multiply the effectiveness of any income if you know how, so I choose to know how.
Effective DIY meant I could trade rewiring my neighbors dump truck engine bay (easy and dirt cheap for old Fords but no one else wanted the job because they didn't know how) for several thousand dollars of large I-beam and round steel posts he'd harvested demolishing buildings. I did that in several hours and a bout fifty bucks in parts I didn't already have, then the steel became my shop foundation/form for my slab. Paying for new steel, welding, transport, rigging and design would have been absurdly expensive by comparison.
Modern labor rates plus taxes and other input conditions greatly reduced or eliminated by DIY make the math far better than your ignorant labor comparison. I've done this sort of thing since the late 1970s, retired fully at 47 and my overhead remains tiny. I get instant service or paced service as I prefer because I'm not on anyone else's schedule. Other DIYAnons do the same thing building their shops, homes and lives.
Imagine all the interesting things you could have built or done, if you hadnt shoehorned yourself into a mediocre jack of all trades mechanic.
SAD!
yes and if you hold a decent job your labour costs mean that nothing is worth doing yourself (eat on disposable plates instead of washing up etc). the real answer is who gives a frick?
>the real answer is who gives a frick?
Anyone who values their time?
is your time more valuable if you spend it earning money or doing things that better yourself?
Not to mention that not all hours are billable hours like some people pretend they are. Your time away from your work can still be productive time saving yourself money. I mean if you can put in 168 hours a week and get quadruple overtime or some shit then yeah do that and hire everything done...
Building shitty PrepHole consumer goods is not bettering yourself nor earning money.
>Anyone who values their time?
Why assume everyone else is slow and moronic and cannot turn out quality work quickly with little fuss? When I want to modify, repair or maintain a vehicle I can make short work of it because I choose to know how. This saves gobs of money I enjoy elsewhere while getting me immediate service or service as I wish it without wasting time and money towing my rides elsewhere for work (I have a tow truck so that would be cheaper but that doesn't slash repair labor).
Many DIYers are just doing what we already know how to do at a pro level because we chose to be men. It wasn't long ago when men chose to be competent at many things. Some like modern farmers still are.
Anyone who has ever went estate sale shopping or auction hunting in a rural areas will tell you, boomers, especially old farmers are NOT competent in the least bit.
Farm repairs is synonymous with Black person rigged
>Anyone who has ever went estate sale shopping or auction hunting in a rural areas will tell you, boomers, especially old farmers are NOT competent in the least bit.
>Farm repairs is synonymous with Black person rigged
Yes, some of them are quite bad. Some of them aren't. You'll never hear about the good repairs because they are basically invisible.
>Imagine all the interesting things you could have built or done, if you hadnt shoehorned yourself into a mediocre jack of all trades mechanic.
>SAD!
Maybe he enjoys the things he does do. I know I do. Vacations mean nothing to me. Going other places to be around different people means nothing to me. Going to my shop and getting something productive done is what I honestly crave. There is no place in the world I would rather be.
>thread about buying a chinese shelf on amazon
>this guy is bragging about changing his own oil
god I love how fricking moronic PrepHole is sometimes
>posts pic of a perfectly reasonable DIY storage solution, just overloaded
>will probably last for years
>titles it diy_horror
Who are you to call anyone else moronic
It's not cheaper if it doesn't exist. But for electronics a module is cheaper most of the time.
Do you idiots do anything besides this shit
>02/18/24(Sun)03:35:19
Not that anon but the first thing that occurred to me is someone just woke up for work and banged that out taking a shit. People have varying schedules you know.
And i'll still do it myself if it is within reason because it is fun and gives me satisfaction.
>Muh time
>Muh economics
>Muh labor
>Muh quality
I don't really expect aspies who have to min-max every aspect of their life to understand.
Nah man don’t DIY, you get splinters in your dock and the hole saw doesn’t cut as clean
Just order a glory hole off Amazon
For it to be economical it depends on what random crap you have on hand and what you can scourge up. Case in point I want to build a conservatory and the cost of the glass was eye watering so I kept an eye on the classifieds ads until I found someone who wanted rid of an old greenhouse. Got the glass for free, saved a nice chunk of change and boom now it's much cheaper to build myself rather than buy.
Sure it takes longer but if you've got a few projects in mind and a clear notion of the materials required you get them eventually. Needs a discerning eye and a bit of willpower not to become a hoarder though
More expensive than just buying but still cheaper than most other hobby's
The project is fun and I learn
Skill issue
t. user-recyvler of the trash I'm hoarding
Based.
Just today I took some oak dowels that my dad bought at an auction over 25 years ago drilled the ends of them and inserted some steel rod that were broken teeth from one of my hay rakes and scrounged up a piece of 4" pvc (I did have to buy a 4" cap though) and made a dozen hotdog roasting skewers and a holder for them for a campfire birthday party for my daughter this weekend. Took a bit of time but they are way heavier built than any you can buy and it cost me a whopping $3 for the pvc end cap. Plus I will have them for future parties.
>inb4 everyone has scorched knuckles
>tfw you realize that mass-produced shit made with low cost materials is cheaper than custom made shit made of solid wood/high quality materials
wow OP, you've really opened my eyes here
yep. so you buy it and spend your time and money elsewhere. re-inventing the wheel is for youtube streamers.
I designed a custom miniature toy for my toddler, there was no option of buying it premade. Don't care if it cost me way more than buying some banggood piece of shit, it was worth it to see her face light up. And I'd do it again without a thought.