>TFW you learn just how little ammo is actually needed in any situation you might realistically encounter, and that the military only needs more due to suppressing fire and the police only need more because they hardly ever practice
>TFW larger mags hanging off rifle are now about as appealing as shitty ricer mods on cars
Does anyone else have this problem?
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Moat casualties were inflicted against coalition forces in the middle east with long range rifle fire and IEDs. Add in drones and you are on the right path.
>omg some homosexual on utube said I had to have an AR so I'm just gonna do that
You mean that paid salesmen? Yeah, do what they say.
Imagine telling the Iraqis and Afghanis that they don't need those AKs, just a few Mosins and Lee-Enfields. I doubt they would take you seriously.
>imagine telling the guy that's got a scoped rifle and has spent weeks driving invaders insane that he instead needs an iron sighted piece of shit to get in light infantry fights against mechanized heavy infantry
Yeah bud, good idea. Keep coping.
I'm not the one insisting you only need one type of firearm. Again, I highly doubt the Afghanis you're felating ditched their AKs and rocked only x weapon. If they're the standard we're going to use for an insurgency force, then yeah, you're going to need the whole arsenal.
Backpedaling b***h cope.
Get cool/fun guns. ARs are bad for civil resistance.
>sakura post
>dumb opinion
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>learn just how little ammo is actually needed in any situation you might realistically encounter
this is quite literally irrelevant, it doesn't matter HOW likely it is the people doing home invasion are wearing body armor, but if its literally possible, a non-zero chance, you need to be able to defeat it on the spot in case it does happen
10 rounds of rifle fire will almost 100% still do it at that kind of range. Body armor doesn't make someone Iron Man and invincible to guns at <10yd. Though that said absolutely, at home there is zero reason not to just use whatever the heaviest biggest bullet highest load thing you want, one of your advantages vs an invader is size/weight aren't considerations beyond your ability to use it at all.
I assume OP is talking about out of the house though.
>>TFW larger mags hanging off rifle are now about as appealing as shitty ricer mods on cars
>Does anyone else have this problem?
Eh, I still enjoy the look of larger mags because it still seems fun for certain activities at the range and let's be honest anon, the range (or innawoods/onnaprairie) is where we are spending most of our time shooting anyway. Most semiauto guns seem to look the most balanced with 20rnd mags. And when training it's definitely more efficient and cost effective to have bigger mags, a 20 or 30 rnd mag doesn't cost 2x or 3x the cost of a 10rnd and a higher weight percentage is bullets.
That said I mostly don't actually use them and use 10 rounders because I switched to 30 cal and came to enjoy long deliberate fire and big mags are extra weight/get in the way. Same with hunting, extra weight why bother, if you need 30 rounds to drop a fricking deer use 29 rounds then the last one on yourself.
>Same with hunting
I worked hunting invasive species for a while. When you're not tag limited and just dropping them 30rd magazines are a God-send.
Also fish are really annoying to try and hit.
That makes sense and is a valid use case. We just don't have it around here is all.
>And when training it's definitely more efficient and cost effective to have bigger mags, a 20 or 30 rnd mag doesn't cost 2x or 3x the cost of a 10rnd and a higher weight percentage is bullets.
I don't get this argument. I don't bother doing tactical short range style shooting with a rifle anymore, especially not with current ammo prices, but when I did I pretty much never loaded my mags past 10 rounds at the range. Even for longer strings, I'd be throwing in a reload by that point.
>>TFW you learn just how little ammo is actually needed in any situation you might realistically encounter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
>people drugged up to the point where they can't make what should be easy shots with a rifle vs people who almost never practice trying to shoot 60+ yards with handguns
Do you feel like larger mags on a rifle get in your way somehow? I don’t. If anything they’re better than smaller mags because reloading is easier when there’s more to grab onto
t. ban state resident and 10/30 pmag appreciator
Tell me how I know you've never been in a gunfight.
Between misses and suppressive fire you want extras for your primary AND your sidearm. And yes, you will miss, and yes, you will use bullets just for tactics without even intending to hit the other guy. You will expend rounds just to create openings and obtain positioning.
>Tell me how I know you've never been in a gunfight.
Let me guess, you have over 300 confirmed kills.
301 now that OP is btfo
>Does anyone else have this problem?
Passing through the tactilarp and bullshit survivalist crap is part of the rites of gun loving. Eventually you come to the calm lake of MLLR, BPCR and Flint and Percussion and Cap and Ball and stuff like fclass, varmint, silouette and sbbr. I rarely carry more than a couple of boxlock side by side 44 mag pocket pistols now and only if I am passing though bad places or people, have not even carried my full revolvers in a few years. I think I'm one of /k/ first homegrown boomers. Tactilarp crap is entry level gun loving
I don't mind tactical guns. It just feels silly to have stuff hanging off guns that I'm never going to need when the gun could be that much more streamlined instead. I like the aesthetic of PCCs with mags that insert into the grip like a pistol and flush fit mags.
It's just growing up and becoming more mature. You become older, wiser, and realize that what you want is far more than what you need, and that the former is a pain in the ass compared to the latter.
Just have two mags
One for magdumping
Two for malfunctions
Maybe three for group darkie invasion but that's dependant
Past that, unless you're in group with a bunch of other people with guns
They're mostly just for range use
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the feral methoids in my area can take dozens of rounds. Not to mention the shit in your pants factor when you have to shoot an attacker. I think having bigmags is smart.
>the feral methoids in my area can take dozens of rounds.
Stop using cops as a performance baseline and learn to shoot.
What are you going to do? Headshot a meth zombie running at full speed? Get real
You don't need to, you just need to actually reliably get shots in the vitals. Keep in mind that the average police officer can only manage to keep 1/2 of their shots anywhere on the person they're shooting at, with that number dropping to a 1/4 if 2 cops are involved, or 1/10 in cases with 3 or more cops involved. I hope you weren't under the impression that cops were landing most of their shots in the various videos that get posted here.
https://www.policeone.com/officer-shootings/articles/117909-Study-reveals-important-truths-hidden-in-the-details-of-officer-involved-shootings/
>mags
Mags?
I don't care about huge mags, 10 rounds is enough for hunting and target-shooting.
>I-I d-don’t care about big mags…!
Totally not a Canadian.
Nah, 20 round mags are peek aesthetics
Agreed, straightwall mags are pure sexo
Civilians using a carry gun in a defensive situation almost NEVER happens. Vanishingly small percentage. So, carrying is really just for your peace-of-mind. In that case carry as much ammo as makes you feel safe.
why do yall need all these kind of accesories onto guns? Mass produced Stock weapons are the most practical (and weapons are first of all tools for something, anything else outside of technicality its buffon tier shit) and good looking weapons.
Got a mag in my M16, one on the buttstock, and three in my PC. If 151 rounds can't handle whatever requires me to actually grab that shit, I'm fricked.
Black person stop trying to rationalize why you use 20rd AR mags. if you want to do it because you think they look cool, thats ALL the reason you need.
Acceptable desire: to enjoy shooting regularly in both informal (plinking) and formal (conpetitions, training, etc.) manner without disruption.
Realistic scenario no. 1: the world goes full moron over a virus, everything shuts down including supply chains, and ammo skyrockets in price.
Realistic scenario no. 2: a national/staye/local election is on the horizon, restrictive gun legislation is proposed/passed, or a "mass" shooting occurs, and the price of ammo skyrockets
Realistic scenario no. 3: towards the end of a long day of work, op gets a text from an old friend inviting him out for a beer. "Just what i needed" op thinks, op goes down to the local bar, meets his old friend, and has a few beers. On the 5th or 6th round, op and his friend accidentally reach for the same beer. Their fingers gently touch. Immediately ops mind is filled with fantasies of his friend riding him from behind. He envisions the ecstasy as his friend grabs ops balls from behind while simultaneously unloading a massive load into ops butthole.
Oddly detailed n3 scenario, anon
There’s no real reason to gimp yourself when it comes to using rifles. Unless you’re out hunting and mobility matters or you’re just LARPing, you should always aim to minmax as much as possible. 30 round mags are perfect, not too many, not too few. Switching to 20 round mags because you’re not a cop or a soldier and making a post about it just sounds like some sort of cope to me. Cops and soldiers need more ammo because their jobs are to kill people, not because of suppressive fire or lack of training. A civilian in Littlewood, Ohio must be prepared to provide suppressive fire just as well as a soldier in Afghanistan.
Carry handguns are a different issue. If you’re carrying and you end up in a self defense situation or even a mass shooting, your first instinct should be to get out of there as quickly and safely as possible. Killing the other guy is secondary and can be entirely avoided in most situations so larger capacity mags are optional
>just sounds like some sort of cope to me
What would he be coping about?
>A civilian in Littlewood, Ohio must be prepared to provide suppressive fire just as well as a soldier in Afghanistan.
Name one real world situation you might encounter where this would even be relevant.
My Dad is a giga-fudd that has killed many things, both 4 legged and 2. He only talks about the latter when he's had a lot to drink.
Anyways, he swears by 340 weatherby, which is basically the Fudd version of 338LM. He laughs at my AR-15s. Of course I try to ignore it, but the older I get, the more I think he might have a point.
whats the story on him killing bipeds
He was a chicken rancher for 17 years, usually used a hatchet but sometimes he'd plink the roosters with a .22 because they would kick when he'd try and grab them.
Why would you care what he thinks? You have no practical experience with anything relevant to the topic, so clearly you're the expert.
Tf is a “larger mag hanging off the rifle”? You mean a 30rd mag? They don’t look awkward at all. Maybe a 20rder looks a little more aesthetic, but 10 rounder’s actually look weird. As for pistols most flush mags will carry 15-17 rounds.
Now I'm thinking about what an SL8 with a fixed magazine with a hinged floorplate like an SKS and a loading gate for stripper clips would be like.
How have I not known this has existed until today?
Because you're a zoomer that never played Resident Evil 4 or FEAR?
I see the revolvertards are now moving on to rifles. Been on a tear lately.
>seething about posters who like revolvers out of nowhere
It isn't healthy to let people live rent free in your head anon.
If they're worth shooting once, you might as well shoot them more than once just to be sure.
If you miss, sure. But overkill costs time and money.
> replace M16 with M1 Garand
> replace AKs with SVT 40