You are going to regret it very quickly. In your mind you are trying to justify carrying a 5 shot revolver. Then you are going to be reminded that criminals are killing people with full on AKs and shit these days and realize that carrying a 5 shot revolver might be the stupidest idea you've ever had. The only use for a revolver is *maybe* pocket carry from time to time? But even then, theres 6 shot revolver out there. The SP101 is outdated. A relic of the past.
>5 shots is way better than 0 shots against a pack of feral nigs
Unless you are doing headshots.
You could 360 noscope a nig in the hayid with a 10mm and it would bounce off of its skull like you threw an empty 42 of steel reserve at it.
Also, military training is dumb with the whole "aim for center mass" bullshit. Just shoot them in the belly. It's the least armored part of the body and most people will be crippled pretty fast with a couple of gut shots.
If I don't hit someone at least 1 time with 5 shots inside my house, I kinda deserve to die.
By the way, I am old enough, and I have been enough on the internet to remember at least two cases in which black women tanked headshots without any consequences because of their hair, when turned into dreads it literally turns into kevlar.
Honestly, I am surprised and disappointed no /k/ dude ever tried to buy some black hair and roll it into dreads and make kevlar out of it.
Please post one.... just one example of any nig robbing a white person with an AK in the last 10 years. Get this moronic shit outta here
5 shot isn't ..amazing. it's a hard compromise, but still better than 0 as been said. But for a "throw in a the pocket holster while I drive to the store" not too bad, enough to canoe someone from behind who's fricking around for some swishers.
nobody uses AKs to rob people, they use cheap polymer striker fired handguns. AKs are for making rap videos and bantu tribal warfare where making a lot of noise is more desirable than actually being effective anyways. hence why they love the draco, its the perfect weapon for that purpose.
You could get a used Smith J-frame for cheaper, and they'll end up lighter and thinner making them easier to conceal than the thicker Ruger revolvers. But if you have the money and can conceal the extra bulk, go for it.
This thread has a few people who seem to have forgotten that the record for most shots fired in a self defense shooting still goes to a snub nose .38 J-frame, a record that has remained unbroken since 1987. Goetz carried no reload either. 4 attackers, 4 hits, one miss. My litmus for a carry gun is "am I equally or better armed than Goetz was?" If so, then you're fine. And until someone breaks his record, 5 rounds of .38 or something equivalent to that will be the bare minimum for a carry gun.
Cylinders do expand and contract, what's more likely is that your headspace was set wrong from the factory. You're supposed to have .010" (+/- .002) of wiggle room behind an unfired case rim.
If your headspace was already too little, then heat expansion would tie up the cylinder.
My 642 can still be a handful with +P loads, but I also avoid 158gr loads. Even Underwood's standard pressure version of the FBI Load is a bear in an airweight
I switched to a Taurus 327 and couldn't be happier though, .32 H&R Magnum is a fricking delight to shoot, gotta get me one of those new J-Frames in .32 H&R when I can find one
there's no reason to buy a 5-shot snubbie in 2024. taurus 856 if you insist on going for the bobbed hammer meme, or kimber k6xs if you wanna be a full hammerless chad
I live in Italy, I don't have to face criminals armed like rambo, to me having this thing loaded next to my bed is a great insurance policy.
I am terrified about the idea of having a loaded semi auto at home, and then the day i need it, just ends up failing because pheraps i left the loaded mag for too long and the spring got messed up.
So my 5 round revolvers seems reasonable. Also it is pretty cool once you hold it in your hand, i like how it feels.
I didn't even knew what word to use in order to make picture smaller, apparently is "crop". Thank you for educating me about the subject. I am gonna watch some videos and learn about it.
>i left the loaded mag for too long and the spring got messed up.
Fudd lore. I've fired pistol and rifle magazines that have been loaded for 10 to 20 years.
>just ends up failing because pheraps i left the loaded mag for too long and the spring got messed up.
That's not how that works neo spaghetti-western anon.
I'm not either, but the simple version is that it isn't the compression of the spring that induces wear, its the cycle of compression and releasing that compression that does it. A mag that's loaded and left alone should be fine a decade later, but a mag that's loaded and unloaded everyday for the same time period will eventually wear out.
I'm not either, but the simple version is that it isn't the compression of the spring that induces wear, its the cycle of compression and releasing that compression that does it. A mag that's loaded and left alone should be fine a decade later, but a mag that's loaded and unloaded everyday for the same time period will eventually wear out.
said is correct. A brand new magazine that is loaded and left loaded for decades will have a spring that is just as strong as the day it left the factory. Springs wear out from repeated being tensioned and un-tensioned. A magazine that has been used regularly for a decade will wear out, a magazine that has been left loaded for a decade will work just fine.
What kind of small revolver would you recomend then? I tried a different one, don't remember the name, and it was much more snappy than the sp101 (because of its inferior weight)
Well, that's the trade off, weight vs recoil.
Personally? I ended up switching to an autoloader. I also had an m&p bodyguard .38 but I didn't like that due to the recoil
DAO is terrible and .357mag is gimped out of a snub nose. Contrariwise, the 3" sp101 with a hammer is nice shooting, durable and gives you the power of the .357mag. It's still not a nub gun and the fact that you are asking the question makes me think you are not ready.
The downside of the sp101 design, beyond the above mentioned is that carbon build up happens under the cylinder. After about 50 rounds, or 1 box of ammo, the double action pull becomes gritty and heavy due to particulate build up under the cylinder. You can clean it but taking the cylinder off to properly clean the gun requires removing the grip and pushing in a detent through the frame to drop the action out of the gun. Doing that and reassembling it is kind of a pain in the ass, especially if you have to do it with any regularity. Guns like the S&W model 60, you can just back out a single screw and slide the cylinder off, way easier. Korth goes as far as to use the same mechanism as the S&W but they replace the screw with a simple button.
The upside of the sp101 is that it's durable and heavy. It's not as comfortable to carry a heavy gun but the weight helps with the recoil.
One last time, a DAO snub nose is both a terrible shooter and gimped. A 3" with a hammer is better but you can't pocket carry it. Pocket carry is stupid anyway, mostly because you lose use of that pocket.
I EDC a .357 SP101
I carry it IWB in a leather holster
I use a rigger style gunbelt
People say "it's too heavy" but I sometimes forget it's even there, so I can only assume they are not using a good gunbelt to prevent pants sagging.
I take it to the range a shoot .38 through it and I carry .357 Hornady Critical Defense rounds.
I have a holder for two speed loaders, but I don't usually wear it.
When I do carry the reloads it's not too bulky, but my shirt does tend to ride up over it after a bit of walking.
Never tried the strips.
I do not regret it.
I in fact love it.
It's too heavy... for a 5 shot revolver. If you're belt carrying a revolver, you might as well jump up to a 6 shot K frame or Kimber or what have you. Similar weight and size to an SP101 but you get another round.
You'll have to if you want to carry anything bigger than a derringer. The question is "how much" are you willing to dress around your carry. Most people can get away with pocket carrying an LCP no problem, but if you wear super skinny jeans, you'll still print. You can't CC on the belt line if you wear crop tops like a early 00s teen girl. If you ankle carry, no shorts. I pocket carry a j frame usually, but I have to wear relatively loose fitting pants or else it prints.
i carry a G43, i can pocket carry it with no issue regardless of what im wearing. if i want to really care about printing i can put a couple dollar bills in the pocket.
You know the actual bullet travel(chamber to muzzle) for the glock is about 2.2".
The meme about 2" 357s having no power is so grossly overstated fuddlore it's comical. You may now try and find 40S&W chrono data from 3" barrels.
Pic is BB's 180gr load, uses old spec 357 pressures.
Snubs are rad though, which is critical.
Min/maxxing is for gays and pocket-carrying a snub .38 for Black person defense is a tried and true American tradition.
Big and heavy. It's a belt revolver but only a 5 shot. Get an LCR or an airweight Smith if you want a 5 shot pocket revolver, and just jump up to a K frame if you want a belt revolver, its only slightly bigger.
You are going to regret it very quickly. In your mind you are trying to justify carrying a 5 shot revolver. Then you are going to be reminded that criminals are killing people with full on AKs and shit these days and realize that carrying a 5 shot revolver might be the stupidest idea you've ever had. The only use for a revolver is *maybe* pocket carry from time to time? But even then, theres 6 shot revolver out there. The SP101 is outdated. A relic of the past.
Nobody is coming after you with an AK loser. Tyrones only go after other Tyrones with the big iron
Do you carry 4 or 5 extra pistol mags daily? Also what plates do you duct tape to your torso for EDC?
No I have them in my backpack for my partner to shield me with. Will that stop .300WM?
This guy is right. Feral packs of blacks roam the cities looking for nerdy white people to shoot with aks. Dont go to the city
any gun that you actually carry every day is 100% better than the perfect gun that is uncomfortable so you sometimes don't have it.
5 shots is way better than 0 shots against a pack of feral nigs
>5 shots is way better than 0 shots against a pack of feral nigs
Unless you are doing headshots.
You could 360 noscope a nig in the hayid with a 10mm and it would bounce off of its skull like you threw an empty 42 of steel reserve at it.
Also, military training is dumb with the whole "aim for center mass" bullshit. Just shoot them in the belly. It's the least armored part of the body and most people will be crippled pretty fast with a couple of gut shots.
If I don't hit someone at least 1 time with 5 shots inside my house, I kinda deserve to die.
By the way, I am old enough, and I have been enough on the internet to remember at least two cases in which black women tanked headshots without any consequences because of their hair, when turned into dreads it literally turns into kevlar.
Honestly, I am surprised and disappointed no /k/ dude ever tried to buy some black hair and roll it into dreads and make kevlar out of it.
Your opinion is based on nothing but your own schizo delusions. Try leaving the house.
Please post one.... just one example of any nig robbing a white person with an AK in the last 10 years. Get this moronic shit outta here
5 shot isn't ..amazing. it's a hard compromise, but still better than 0 as been said. But for a "throw in a the pocket holster while I drive to the store" not too bad, enough to canoe someone from behind who's fricking around for some swishers.
nobody uses AKs to rob people, they use cheap polymer striker fired handguns. AKs are for making rap videos and bantu tribal warfare where making a lot of noise is more desirable than actually being effective anyways. hence why they love the draco, its the perfect weapon for that purpose.
Why? It’s an excellent pistol. Get the exposed hammer though.
>t. homosexual
the only reason not to buy an SP101 is if the weight will bother you
or if you hate the look of the cylinder scallops like I do
if you want it as a range toy then you should absolutely buy. as a CCW there are so many better options in this modern market.
You could get a kimber revolver with an extra inch of barrel and an extra round instead.
You could get a used Smith J-frame for cheaper, and they'll end up lighter and thinner making them easier to conceal than the thicker Ruger revolvers. But if you have the money and can conceal the extra bulk, go for it.
This thread has a few people who seem to have forgotten that the record for most shots fired in a self defense shooting still goes to a snub nose .38 J-frame, a record that has remained unbroken since 1987. Goetz carried no reload either. 4 attackers, 4 hits, one miss. My litmus for a carry gun is "am I equally or better armed than Goetz was?" If so, then you're fine. And until someone breaks his record, 5 rounds of .38 or something equivalent to that will be the bare minimum for a carry gun.
Shield Plus /thread
>Slash-threading in his own post
Git
No, but I will suggest getting an SP101 in .327 Federal Magnum
Make sure the cylinder doesn't lock up when it gets hot after firing 50 rounds of .357 mag or 100 rounds of .38, like mine did.
Sounds like you need to clean your gun out, I've had dirty revolvers do that around 50-75 rounds in.
It's not dirt, it was ruger not heat treating the cylinder properly.
Cylinders do expand and contract, what's more likely is that your headspace was set wrong from the factory. You're supposed to have .010" (+/- .002) of wiggle room behind an unfired case rim.
If your headspace was already too little, then heat expansion would tie up the cylinder.
That could've been it, but I sold it a long time ago so can't check.
I carry my 3" DASA every day.
Now why would I do that?
By a J-Frame instead
>Airweight
No, not unless it's in .32
I shoot .38+P out of mine and it's fine
I wouldn't shoot 158gr or whatever out of it though. Fricking horrible with heavier bullets
My 642 can still be a handful with +P loads, but I also avoid 158gr loads. Even Underwood's standard pressure version of the FBI Load is a bear in an airweight
I switched to a Taurus 327 and couldn't be happier though, .32 H&R Magnum is a fricking delight to shoot, gotta get me one of those new J-Frames in .32 H&R when I can find one
there's no reason to buy a 5-shot snubbie in 2024. taurus 856 if you insist on going for the bobbed hammer meme, or kimber k6xs if you wanna be a full hammerless chad
>there's no reason to buy a 5-shot snubbie in 2024
criminals have not become more bulletproof or more numerous since the 70s
Finally k talks about a gun I own.
I live in Italy, I don't have to face criminals armed like rambo, to me having this thing loaded next to my bed is a great insurance policy.
I am terrified about the idea of having a loaded semi auto at home, and then the day i need it, just ends up failing because pheraps i left the loaded mag for too long and the spring got messed up.
So my 5 round revolvers seems reasonable. Also it is pretty cool once you hold it in your hand, i like how it feels.
What kind of ammo for mu boomer gun?
Man... I really like that walnut grip.
Maybe i should replace mine. But It was my father's idea to get this crappy looking One.
Sorry forgot pic
Learn to crop your photos nerd. Your post is cringe.
Nice pistol though
I didn't even knew what word to use in order to make picture smaller, apparently is "crop". Thank you for educating me about the subject. I am gonna watch some videos and learn about it.
Youre welcome sir. I want you to have a blessed day. And remember Hitler was right!
>i left the loaded mag for too long and the spring got messed up.
Fudd lore. I've fired pistol and rifle magazines that have been loaded for 10 to 20 years.
The gun shop owners told me that.
Yeah, fuddlore
>just ends up failing because pheraps i left the loaded mag for too long and the spring got messed up.
That's not how that works neo spaghetti-western anon.
Go ahead anon, explain me.
From what I imagined I supposed that a spring in tension would, sooner or later lose its properties if left under stress for too long.
But I am no scientist
I'm not either, but the simple version is that it isn't the compression of the spring that induces wear, its the cycle of compression and releasing that compression that does it. A mag that's loaded and left alone should be fine a decade later, but a mag that's loaded and unloaded everyday for the same time period will eventually wear out.
What
said is correct. A brand new magazine that is loaded and left loaded for decades will have a spring that is just as strong as the day it left the factory. Springs wear out from repeated being tensioned and un-tensioned. A magazine that has been used regularly for a decade will wear out, a magazine that has been left loaded for a decade will work just fine.
heavy as shit
bulky
long
t. carried one and sold it
What kind of small revolver would you recomend then? I tried a different one, don't remember the name, and it was much more snappy than the sp101 (because of its inferior weight)
Well, that's the trade off, weight vs recoil.
Personally? I ended up switching to an autoloader. I also had an m&p bodyguard .38 but I didn't like that due to the recoil
My father ran the hammered version for a long time. He did eventually get an 856, but he still carries the 101 from time to time
DAO is terrible and .357mag is gimped out of a snub nose. Contrariwise, the 3" sp101 with a hammer is nice shooting, durable and gives you the power of the .357mag. It's still not a nub gun and the fact that you are asking the question makes me think you are not ready.
The downside of the sp101 design, beyond the above mentioned is that carbon build up happens under the cylinder. After about 50 rounds, or 1 box of ammo, the double action pull becomes gritty and heavy due to particulate build up under the cylinder. You can clean it but taking the cylinder off to properly clean the gun requires removing the grip and pushing in a detent through the frame to drop the action out of the gun. Doing that and reassembling it is kind of a pain in the ass, especially if you have to do it with any regularity. Guns like the S&W model 60, you can just back out a single screw and slide the cylinder off, way easier. Korth goes as far as to use the same mechanism as the S&W but they replace the screw with a simple button.
The upside of the sp101 is that it's durable and heavy. It's not as comfortable to carry a heavy gun but the weight helps with the recoil.
One last time, a DAO snub nose is both a terrible shooter and gimped. A 3" with a hammer is better but you can't pocket carry it. Pocket carry is stupid anyway, mostly because you lose use of that pocket.
They're annoyingly heavy. In4 'lifting more' makes your pants not sag
wear a belt homosexual
I EDC a .357 SP101
I carry it IWB in a leather holster
I use a rigger style gunbelt
People say "it's too heavy" but I sometimes forget it's even there, so I can only assume they are not using a good gunbelt to prevent pants sagging.
I take it to the range a shoot .38 through it and I carry .357 Hornady Critical Defense rounds.
I have a holder for two speed loaders, but I don't usually wear it.
When I do carry the reloads it's not too bulky, but my shirt does tend to ride up over it after a bit of walking.
Never tried the strips.
I do not regret it.
I in fact love it.
I'm going to buy some of these the next time I both have a job and they're in stock
https://www.kaztac.com/product-page/wrapid-loader-system-5-round
Seems too gimmicky to me. I eventually want a couple of the Bianchi strips. I feel perfectly comfortable with just the five in the cylinder, though.
they seem a lot more comfortable to carry than traditional speedloaders and I don't understand the point of strips
The point of strips is to lay flat when carrying so ypu don't have a bulky item in your pocket or on your belt.
yeah, I don't see the benefit over carrying loose rounds
Take the Zeta 6 pill
https://zetasix.com/
It's too heavy... for a 5 shot revolver. If you're belt carrying a revolver, you might as well jump up to a 6 shot K frame or Kimber or what have you. Similar weight and size to an SP101 but you get another round.
>I can only assume they are not using a good gunbelt to prevent pants sagging.
i dont want to have to dress around my gun.
You'll have to if you want to carry anything bigger than a derringer. The question is "how much" are you willing to dress around your carry. Most people can get away with pocket carrying an LCP no problem, but if you wear super skinny jeans, you'll still print. You can't CC on the belt line if you wear crop tops like a early 00s teen girl. If you ankle carry, no shorts. I pocket carry a j frame usually, but I have to wear relatively loose fitting pants or else it prints.
i carry a G43, i can pocket carry it with no issue regardless of what im wearing. if i want to really care about printing i can put a couple dollar bills in the pocket.
For me, it’s gotta be the Speed Six snub instead.
Snub nose revolvers are unironically 100% obsolete in this day and age, which I say as someone that EDCs a revolver.
You want small gun? Subcompact pistol beats a revolver in every dimension and .40 S&W in the 3.5" barrel matches .357 Mag with a 2" barrel.
Which gun are you thinking of?
Glock 27 vs SP101 just for comparison. I hate using Glock as an example for everything, but they're everywhere, so it's easy.
You know the actual bullet travel(chamber to muzzle) for the glock is about 2.2".
The meme about 2" 357s having no power is so grossly overstated fuddlore it's comical. You may now try and find 40S&W chrono data from 3" barrels.
Pic is BB's 180gr load, uses old spec 357 pressures.
Snubs are rad though, which is critical.
Min/maxxing is for gays and pocket-carrying a snub .38 for Black person defense is a tried and true American tradition.
FEELS GOOD + looks cool > minmax tacticool & dumb spreadsheet number comparisons
Snubnoses won't go out of battery at contact range, which is realistically the distance most people will use their snub or subcompact.
Big and heavy. It's a belt revolver but only a 5 shot. Get an LCR or an airweight Smith if you want a 5 shot pocket revolver, and just jump up to a K frame if you want a belt revolver, its only slightly bigger.
if you didn't hit the target with the first five shots you're unlikely to hit it with the sixth
I would prefer to put 6 holes in an attacker instead of 5, wouldn't you?
running out of ammo kept Bernhard Goetz out of jail
No, the jury who was fed up with the New York crime wave kept him out of jail.
you could fill a small book with all the dumb shit revolver users say to defend their choice of carry gun.
don't pretend that "you could get one more bullet if you just got a bigger gun bro" is good advice. that is literally always true.
For me
However I have wanted a sp101 to tape inside my fridge ever since I watched gunsmith cats.
Best attempt I got at talking you out of it.