Obviously.
I mean, they control the gates, they let the water rise too much so that it spilled through the turbine building and thus destroyed the dam, then it flooded their side of the areas downriver, cut off water supply to their lands, and so on.
but a massive crossing is probably not possible, becasue teh former bottom of teh lake will be fine silt that is not great to drive over, and there is literally zero cover.
homie of all people i wouldnt expect vatniks to critize vaccines while russia had mandatory vax and qr codes
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Why? Remember anything posted here is for a particular flavor of Western audience. On PrepHole that means right-wing anti-authority types already prone to conspiratorial thinking.
What better way to undermine the West than convince a large subset of Western youth to engage in antisocial behavior?
>maybe Ukraien teleported onto the Russian side, kept the gates closed for months, casued water to spil over and flood through the turbine building, destroying the dam
This is even more moronic than the whole 'Moskva sank in a storm' fairy tale, while we literaly had pictures taken of teh smouldering, abandoned hulk.
This time, we literally have drone footage, sat photos and if you want to go into actual consiracy territory even statements from Russian telegram sources from last November that all point to the whole thing being a series of bungled demo operations and fricking incompetence in managing the water level.
>Dam >Controlled by russian army >Completely in charge >Annonced to be mined by russians themselves a while ago >Ukraine has no bunker busters or any bombs with capability to blow it up
So you are saying that a dam surrounded by russian troops, with heavy defense, mined by russian troops blew up because ukrainians did it somehow and magically dropped a nuke on it or something and noone realize it yet? What's next, when a meteorite drops on your head you will blame ukrainians too?
It'll dry out enough to drive across in time, plus it'll be full of tall grass and scrub before long that will help hold the soil together and conceal infantry.
Probably still not easy to cross though, the elevation alone makes it a big kill box.
Unironically would be /k/ino to see Ukrainian equipment making a mad dash to the left bank through the river bed.
Kherson region definitely has the fewest number of Russian troops, but there's still tens of thousands to deal with. Then again Kharkiv had a similar story.
If Ukraine took the opportunity, they would have to cross at night with maximum anti-drone warfare. The advantage I see this riverbed is large enough to avoid bunching, but the biggest is there are ZERO landmines, so vehicles can be as spread out as possible. If you can suppress ATGM and artillery positions enough, you could definitely get lots of equipment to the left bank.
My concerns would be choke points though, I can't imagine there are too many landing points onto the left bank.
But if Ukraine would be able to rout the Russians enough out of artillery range of their primary river bank crossing, it would be a major emergency for the Russians in the south. Russians set up basically no fortifications on the left bank of Kherson like they did in Zap. Apart from the obvious Crimea pinch, the Russians now need to defend Zap from the south AND the north.
Sadly there are probably more issues with this crossing that I'm aware of that it won't happen.
>Sadly there are probably more issues with this crossing that I'm aware of that it won't happen.
Sadly its not crossable anon. It LOOKS like you can walk, but this shit is uncrossable for heavy vehicles. Wont be crossable for next couple months, if ever.
If they can cross the river down near kherson with small infiltration units that are a little more than a nuisance, but require Russia to socert men and equipment, then its still a useful development for Ukraine.
Who the frick has been placing AT mines under the fricking riverbed when it was frickhuge and rather deep underwater before the dam breach, anon? Untersee VDV? Subnautical Spetznaz divisions (you'd need a lot of men to mine an area as big as the one in question)?
Does Ukraine have any force besides police West of the Dnipr River? That priceless look when all those buttholes kidnapping Ukrainans off the street to defend Kiev have to stand and fight xD
Oh did the whole dam bust thing turn out badly for the Russians?
Obviously.
I mean, they control the gates, they let the water rise too much so that it spilled through the turbine building and thus destroyed the dam, then it flooded their side of the areas downriver, cut off water supply to their lands, and so on.
but a massive crossing is probably not possible, becasue teh former bottom of teh lake will be fine silt that is not great to drive over, and there is literally zero cover.
>I believe in unfounded conspiracy theories
You are probably vaxxed, too.
>yeah bro, the ukronazi just send in a secret squirrel squad made from the multiple abducted mobiks with several tons of explosives to breach the dam
You guys still trying with the vax agitprop? God damn get some new shit
>vaxxed
I’m sorry. What booster are you on right now?
I take ‘em daily
If you’re body can’t adapt and deal with it you deserved to die, get gud
homie of all people i wouldnt expect vatniks to critize vaccines while russia had mandatory vax and qr codes
Why? Remember anything posted here is for a particular flavor of Western audience. On PrepHole that means right-wing anti-authority types already prone to conspiratorial thinking.
What better way to undermine the West than convince a large subset of Western youth to engage in antisocial behavior?
>non-sequitur
Concession accepted.
Hmmm maybe Ukraine did it?
Yes. Ukraine fricked up its own counteroffensive's timeline and flooded 80 towns.....for reasons.
Oh so the dam bust worked out well for the Russians?
No but you see the Russians are homophobic and moronic, Ukrainians are like reddit and trans so Russia did it
Nah, that is just Russian stupid.
Russian were practically mastubating about "drowned piggies".
rusBlack folk went ahead and blew up several smaller dams soon after, even they're barely pretending they didn't do it
>maybe Ukraien teleported onto the Russian side, kept the gates closed for months, casued water to spil over and flood through the turbine building, destroying the dam
This is even more moronic than the whole 'Moskva sank in a storm' fairy tale, while we literaly had pictures taken of teh smouldering, abandoned hulk.
This time, we literally have drone footage, sat photos and if you want to go into actual consiracy territory even statements from Russian telegram sources from last November that all point to the whole thing being a series of bungled demo operations and fricking incompetence in managing the water level.
>no one destroyed the dam
hot take
Nobody is going to read so many words anon
>Dam
>Controlled by russian army
>Completely in charge
>Annonced to be mined by russians themselves a while ago
>Ukraine has no bunker busters or any bombs with capability to blow it up
So you are saying that a dam surrounded by russian troops, with heavy defense, mined by russian troops blew up because ukrainians did it somehow and magically dropped a nuke on it or something and noone realize it yet? What's next, when a meteorite drops on your head you will blame ukrainians too?
>You need a bunker buster for a dam
Looool
It'll dry out enough to drive across in time, plus it'll be full of tall grass and scrub before long that will help hold the soil together and conceal infantry.
Probably still not easy to cross though, the elevation alone makes it a big kill box.
corduroy roads homies, lets your tanks cross every swamp wehrmacht style
>Mfw Russia takes Kherson again
Yeah those T-62 OBR 2023 will come in handy.
The VDV will rise from their briny graves and march up the Dnieper.
>mfw Russia will take a city of over 1m people after repeatedly failing to take villages of 1k
Where did Dniper go?
Pretty sure the river is hidden by the bank, its below the viewer as it were.
another damn up north. Ukie controlled. Kiev closed the sauce gates so their own side of the river doesn't drop.
It's just a huge field of mud and the river is still also there. You can't just drive tanks across.
Mud without water is just dirt, anon. You can drive on dirt.
Gonna be nice and dry soon.
>unprotected
it's protected tho, fortifications/arty, everything is in place on what was the bank of dnipro. russians expected landings attempts
daily reminder that ukies have night vision, russBlack folk don't
What if they secure other shore by infantry and make pantoon bridge through all dirt? Can ukie do this?
Unironically would be /k/ino to see Ukrainian equipment making a mad dash to the left bank through the river bed.
Kherson region definitely has the fewest number of Russian troops, but there's still tens of thousands to deal with. Then again Kharkiv had a similar story.
If Ukraine took the opportunity, they would have to cross at night with maximum anti-drone warfare. The advantage I see this riverbed is large enough to avoid bunching, but the biggest is there are ZERO landmines, so vehicles can be as spread out as possible. If you can suppress ATGM and artillery positions enough, you could definitely get lots of equipment to the left bank.
My concerns would be choke points though, I can't imagine there are too many landing points onto the left bank.
But if Ukraine would be able to rout the Russians enough out of artillery range of their primary river bank crossing, it would be a major emergency for the Russians in the south. Russians set up basically no fortifications on the left bank of Kherson like they did in Zap. Apart from the obvious Crimea pinch, the Russians now need to defend Zap from the south AND the north.
Sadly there are probably more issues with this crossing that I'm aware of that it won't happen.
>Sadly there are probably more issues with this crossing that I'm aware of that it won't happen.
Sadly its not crossable anon. It LOOKS like you can walk, but this shit is uncrossable for heavy vehicles. Wont be crossable for next couple months, if ever.
If they can cross the river down near kherson with small infiltration units that are a little more than a nuisance, but require Russia to socert men and equipment, then its still a useful development for Ukraine.
Was all of that under water at one point?
Yes. That "desert" is exposed riverbed.
I see a giant sandbox full of anti-tank mines
Who the frick has been placing AT mines under the fricking riverbed when it was frickhuge and rather deep underwater before the dam breach, anon? Untersee VDV? Subnautical Spetznaz divisions (you'd need a lot of men to mine an area as big as the one in question)?
Whole bunch of russian minefields got flooded when the dam burst, now the mines got washed all over the river delta.
Zisters..
Does Ukraine have any force besides police West of the Dnipr River? That priceless look when all those buttholes kidnapping Ukrainans off the street to defend Kiev have to stand and fight xD
The so-called Ukraine has fallen, I wouldn't worry about it*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~))