The russian plan is to allow the US a politically and morally acceptable opportunity to cheaply dispose of its old inventory and revitalise it's military-industrial complex?
no no no no you don't understand the CIA actually paid Prigozhin 6.2 billion to stage a coup that actually never happened and we didn't actually need those helicopters and planes and pilots anyway okay???
>NATO constantly pumping out more ammunition and weaponry >new, previously neutral countries joining it >fricking Japan and Germany getting militaristic again >gun ownership in europe increasing >Everyone rushing out to buy more tanks and missiles
mission accomplished, as Sun Tzu said, if your enemy appears to be strong, that means they’re actually weak
NATO countries are replacing their hardware with hardware from other western countries! This means they have been demilitarized with superior hardware!
Fricking baffling to me the people who complain about the equipment aid and how replacements are going to cost money are often the same people who complain that the US has "no factories"
Those are two different things. The aid is an easy way of embezzling billions of dollars from the taxpayers that go straight into the pockets of the richest men in the country and their politicians. The other thing is asking for some money to be given back to the people who are willing to work.
I understand this is blatant trolling but I want someone to explain how the frick the "pull yourself by the boostraps" people now want gibs.
If you're willing to work and want to ask for some more money, try your boss first?
>they are embezzling billions of dollars, trust me >actual evidence of embezzlement presented: *crickets*
Sounds like russian propagandists once again projecting how things would work in their country.
>same people who complain that the US has "no factories"
>Americans: “can we please have factory jobs in Buttfrick Rust Belt like we used to?” >you: “what’s that? You want DoD contractors on rich coastal states to increase their missile production for Ukraine?” >Americans: “what? No” >you: “wow wtf I guess you don’t want factory jobs to come back to your shitty town”
>Coastal states >Defense industry
Anon you're moronic. HIMARS is built in fricking Arkansas and GMLRS is built between Arkansas and Alabama. Look up actual the states the defense industry is in. It isn't Lockheed P-38s built in California for a long ass time.
It's because it's motivated reasoning. They don't care about the equipment going, they pretend to care because they're hoping for a Russian victory and this is a socially acceptable way to disguise it. Just like the leftists who call for Ukraine to surrender to 'save lives': They don't care about lives, they care about Russian victory.
you have that exactly backwards though, it provides little short-term benefit but much greater medium and long-term benefit to finance and supply and foreign proxy war. This has always been known, since ye olden times when the Israelites paid off their enemies to kill each other and emerged as a dominant regional power. God bless the israelites, gotta love a people that invest their way out of a war.
Yes. Ukrainians can't afford to pay pensions for their citizens so we are paying for it. But since pensions aren't weapons any mention of that will conveniently get you banned on this board.
>~20 bn in economic support stretched over a few years >10 billion in financial support earmarked for direct military affairs (i.e. buying from Europe) + 12 billion in US materiel as of 2022 >~18 billion is actually just paying USmil & US contractors
what is this supposed to prove to me?
moron, IFVs aren't money, the money for replacements will be spent on vehicles manufactured in the US, likely by a US contractor. Frick, most of the materials will probably be procured state-side. So how exactly is money being sent abroad?
you have that exactly backwards though, it provides little short-term benefit but much greater medium and long-term benefit to finance and supply and foreign proxy war. This has always been known, since ye olden times when the Israelites paid off their enemies to kill each other and emerged as a dominant regional power. God bless the israelites, gotta love a people that invest their way out of a war.
Do you think America is sending Ukraine shipping containers full of cash?
moron, IFVs aren't money, the money for replacements will be spent on vehicles manufactured in the US, likely by a US contractor. Frick, most of the materials will probably be procured state-side. So how exactly is money being sent abroad?
>shipping money
They're shipping old equipment, moron. And then buy new equipment, with the money going back into the economy.
Also, investing into other countries is literally how the US became the dominant force of the global economy.
US is never going to win in ukraine they are losing more and more soldiers and money there, ukrainians losing all their heavy equip in suicide offensives so that Zelensky doesn't lose face
whats even funnier is the NATO soldiers there disguised in ukraine uniforms are getting blown up by their own equipment
Chat gpt?
Hallo sirs?
A western lowlife outcast?
We will never know.
Please anon tell us in Allah's name be honest.
https://i.imgur.com/DByY2jX.png
Do you ever even stop for a second and read what you write? Like ever, brownoid?
>January 2023
It's been 6 months, where are the vehicles?
but of course russia isn't losing anything
low iq pentagon bots thats why everyone outside /k/ laughs at us and calls this place /k/ope
10 months ago
Anonymous
>us
Don't pretend like you've been here before the invasion Rajeesh. /k/ has never once been a fan of Russia as a country. We've liked their military gear because it used to be cheap and plentiful, but that was it. Russia as a country has always been despised by the majority of the world.
10 months ago
Anonymous
nobody gives a frick what you /misc/ schizos think
10 months ago
Anonymous
Subhuman /misc/troons like you are the only people calling /k/ that, though.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone outside /k/
Skizos in /misc/ and some bunkertroony board is not "everyone", and for sure is not "outside".
Oh? Last I checked, back in October of last year China decided to ABSTAIN in a vote to condemn Russia on the Ukrainian invasion. They didn't even bother to try and support Russia politically. Also pretty sad that the "second most powerful army" in the world has to get help from China to beat a bunch of slavs armed with Western equipment.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You know you've fricked up when you've somehow managed to make all of the middle east including Israel to vote against you
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Belarus >Nicaragua >north Korea >Syria
Holy shit what a pathetic little list of pathetic little countries to have as your allies
10 months ago
Anonymous
China actually voted a few months ago to condemn the invasion. But the cope was it was argued 'they supported the rest of it not that bit'. Which falls apart because the rest of the vote was about giving support to prevent child abuse and sex slavery and shit like that.... So if they're saying China voted yes for that part.... Then the fact Russia and co voted NO suggests that they are pretty against helping abuse victims and stuff.
In short, it was cope.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Russia enjoying child sex abuse is par for the course.
>more and more soldiers
Actual US soldiers that died in Ukraine so far: 0
>and money
LMAO, the US has so far put less than 5% of their annual defense budget in, and it's already crippled the Russian Army.
>ukrainians losing all their heavy equip
And even if that wasn't another vatBlack person delusion, the west could trivially replace it anyway. Being like two orders of magnitude wealthier than third-world shitholes like Russia does come with perks like that.
>NATO soldiers there disguised in ukraine uniforms
May we see them?
>pic
LMAO, Putin wants to pay $7.1 billion for a bunch of MRAPS and Hummers? LMAO, what a ripoff.
Russia trying to win a war of attrition with a country that has both a gigantic military industrial complex and a reason to use it? Yeah, that didn't work out so great for the last guy that tried that.
It's a bit sad that nobody understood what you meant...
After all, Russia has been very clear that their plan for the "demilitarization" of Ukraine was to force it to replace their old and unreliable Soviet era equipment with modern NATO ones.
And on this front, I'd say that the plan is going splendly!
Russian plans always work. The plans are simply adapted after the fact to correspond to whatever outcome was achieved.
Russian plans always work. The plans are simply adapted after the fact to correspond to whatever outcome was achieved.
Oh no, how will the west ever recover from this... oh wait
"As of May 2000, 4,641 M2s had been produced for the U.S. Army."
why dont you value your own peoples' life? is it because your are a subhuman?
The russian plan is to allow the US a politically and morally acceptable opportunity to cheaply dispose of its old inventory and revitalise it's military-industrial complex?
Yes unlimited. 6 visually confirmed destroyed Bradleys so far according to oryx and each aid package has more bradleys in it. It’s going to be a fixture for the rest of the war
>Ukraine commander just reached t3 and activated "arsenal of democracy" special ability. >russian commander is still suffering from negative consequences of failing to use "blyat storm" t1 ability properly.
Can't believe how shitty balance that game has. When I played iraqis against a US player a few years ago, damn US commander rushed my base with a gay timing push. Shit sucks.
Empire sprawl penalty exists for a reason.
Maybe the Russian player should have finished their "Purge the KGB" focus or released some satellite states. Or even fricking played the long game after spending half of his GDP on subversion for 20 years.
Didn't all homosexual streamers say that russian units were super broken and didn't need great mil invest compared ro nato stuff? Some guy made a spreadsheet how t80 rushes to berlin were super viable. >empire sprawl penalty
Why the frick does the US not have that? They can build bases everywhere.
US bonus makes bases built in allied territory not count towards empire sprawl. They can spam bases outside of their own territory, it's incredibly OP.
>Why the frick does the US not have that?
Because they have only 5 Territories with only 1 of them being a full province and their Centralization is low.
>Why the frick does the US not have that
They spin everything out into vassals. Who cares if they lose some taxes if their core territory produces more off the trade bonuses?
China main here.
I can do your shitty bases but better. Afrika is the key to winning games.
>Why the frick does the US not have that?
Because they have only 5 Territories with only 1 of them being a full province and their Centralization is low.
>Why the frick does the US not have that
They spin everything out into vassals. Who cares if they lose some taxes if their core territory produces more off the trade bonuses?
I like Raytheon. Nearly a 3% dividend and a long history of dividend increases. GD is also a dividend aristocrat but its dividend growth is much slower. Obviously only invest in the American defense companies
The real question is not when F-16s will be available, but when we started training Ukrainian pilots. I really hope it was already going on way before the topic of F-16s even came up in public debate.
The tactical advantage lies in the rest of the brigade extemrianting hundreds of ziggers and gaining more ground in the meantime, leaving subhuman shills like you to spam the same video over and over because it's all you have left.
What the frick do they even have? Tank webm, bradley+leo pic, now a single guy getting his leg blown off by a small mine. Wow I'm so demoralized after seeing the utter fricking destruction and disintegration of Russian meat, metal and concrete.
Total zigger death.
They will post it at you again, perhaps even find a picture of the same leopard from yet another angle, and then you will surely be demonitized. ZZZig Heil!
So the /chug/ counter offensive victories went from the leopard/bradley highway of death to "that one guy that got blown up by a mine"
Ask me how I know things are going badly for Russia.
Kek it’s really funny seeing this suddenly everywhere. I wonder if it’s put in a distributed telegram, or in a more ad hoc grassroots discord, or if it’s distributed by the management of individual shillfarms
I never understood why people assume we are sending actual pallets of money. Nearly all of these vehicles and equipment were already bought and paid for. They were either going to be scrap or get used. I'd rather bubba in Pennsylvania and Alabama make some money producing artillery shell casings and javelins than some hinga dinga durgen scandicuck.
Uh-oh, the SIRS and the bunkertrannies will not like this
So the Russian plan is working? Interesting...
The russian plan is to allow the US a politically and morally acceptable opportunity to cheaply dispose of its old inventory and revitalise it's military-industrial complex?
no no no no you don't understand the CIA actually paid Prigozhin 6.2 billion to stage a coup that actually never happened and we didn't actually need those helicopters and planes and pilots anyway okay???
Demilitarization of NATO, yes
>NATO constantly pumping out more ammunition and weaponry
>new, previously neutral countries joining it
>fricking Japan and Germany getting militaristic again
>gun ownership in europe increasing
>Everyone rushing out to buy more tanks and missiles
mission accomplished, as Sun Tzu said, if your enemy appears to be strong, that means they’re actually weak
NATO countries are replacing their hardware with hardware from other western countries! This means they have been demilitarized with superior hardware!
Anon. NATO is not Russia, we manufacture new equipment. We aren't running down stockpiles that might as well be archeotech.
Fricking baffling to me the people who complain about the equipment aid and how replacements are going to cost money are often the same people who complain that the US has "no factories"
morons are universal. But now they have voice through social media, which is further amplified by algorithms.
Those are two different things. The aid is an easy way of embezzling billions of dollars from the taxpayers that go straight into the pockets of the richest men in the country and their politicians. The other thing is asking for some money to be given back to the people who are willing to work.
I understand this is blatant trolling but I want someone to explain how the frick the "pull yourself by the boostraps" people now want gibs.
If you're willing to work and want to ask for some more money, try your boss first?
>they are embezzling billions of dollars, trust me
>actual evidence of embezzlement presented: *crickets*
Sounds like russian propagandists once again projecting how things would work in their country.
How are they supposed to embellish the money if the "money" is the combined cost of all the vehicles being sent there, you moronic thirdie?
>same people who complain that the US has "no factories"
>Americans: “can we please have factory jobs in Buttfrick Rust Belt like we used to?”
>you: “what’s that? You want DoD contractors on rich coastal states to increase their missile production for Ukraine?”
>Americans: “what? No”
>you: “wow wtf I guess you don’t want factory jobs to come back to your shitty town”
>Coastal states
>Defense industry
Anon you're moronic. HIMARS is built in fricking Arkansas and GMLRS is built between Arkansas and Alabama. Look up actual the states the defense industry is in. It isn't Lockheed P-38s built in California for a long ass time.
>abrams
>ohio
>bradley
>pennsylvania
>mrap
>mississippi
>humvee
>indiana
>m1117
>georgia
>himars
>arkansas
>patriot system
>massachusetts
>patriot missile
>florida
>f-35
>texas
You are literally just moronic.
It's because it's motivated reasoning. They don't care about the equipment going, they pretend to care because they're hoping for a Russian victory and this is a socially acceptable way to disguise it. Just like the leftists who call for Ukraine to surrender to 'save lives': They don't care about lives, they care about Russian victory.
The government shipping money outside of the US doesn't improve the economy of the US in the medium nor long terms.
Google the word “export”
>what is marshall's plan
you have that exactly backwards though, it provides little short-term benefit but much greater medium and long-term benefit to finance and supply and foreign proxy war. This has always been known, since ye olden times when the Israelites paid off their enemies to kill each other and emerged as a dominant regional power. God bless the israelites, gotta love a people that invest their way out of a war.
Do you think America is sending Ukraine shipping containers full of cash?
Yes. Ukrainians can't afford to pay pensions for their citizens so we are paying for it. But since pensions aren't weapons any mention of that will conveniently get you banned on this board.
Frick off moron
>~20 bn in economic support stretched over a few years
>10 billion in financial support earmarked for direct military affairs (i.e. buying from Europe) + 12 billion in US materiel as of 2022
>~18 billion is actually just paying USmil & US contractors
what is this supposed to prove to me?
moron, IFVs aren't money, the money for replacements will be spent on vehicles manufactured in the US, likely by a US contractor. Frick, most of the materials will probably be procured state-side. So how exactly is money being sent abroad?
He thinks foreign aid is literally just a pallet of money
>He thinks
Doubt.
>shipping money
They're shipping old equipment, moron. And then buy new equipment, with the money going back into the economy.
Also, investing into other countries is literally how the US became the dominant force of the global economy.
Board full of smartass bootlicking sodomites
Hello sir? You are reddit sir. Do not redeem PrepHole Premium
Why the homophobia?
US is never going to win in ukraine they are losing more and more soldiers and money there, ukrainians losing all their heavy equip in suicide offensives so that Zelensky doesn't lose face
whats even funnier is the NATO soldiers there disguised in ukraine uniforms are getting blown up by their own equipment
but of course russia isn't losing anything
yeah russia loses stuff but they have the largest manufacturer as a close ally to give them whatever they want the US is not manufacturing shit
Do you ever even stop for a second and read what you write? Like ever, brownoid?
damn, and they're doing it all for free?
low iq pentagon bots thats why everyone outside /k/ laughs at us and calls this place /k/ope
>us
Don't pretend like you've been here before the invasion Rajeesh. /k/ has never once been a fan of Russia as a country. We've liked their military gear because it used to be cheap and plentiful, but that was it. Russia as a country has always been despised by the majority of the world.
nobody gives a frick what you /misc/ schizos think
Subhuman /misc/troons like you are the only people calling /k/ that, though.
>everyone outside /k/
Skizos in /misc/ and some bunkertroony board is not "everyone", and for sure is not "outside".
Oh? Last I checked, back in October of last year China decided to ABSTAIN in a vote to condemn Russia on the Ukrainian invasion. They didn't even bother to try and support Russia politically. Also pretty sad that the "second most powerful army" in the world has to get help from China to beat a bunch of slavs armed with Western equipment.
You know you've fricked up when you've somehow managed to make all of the middle east including Israel to vote against you
>Belarus
>Nicaragua
>north Korea
>Syria
Holy shit what a pathetic little list of pathetic little countries to have as your allies
China actually voted a few months ago to condemn the invasion. But the cope was it was argued 'they supported the rest of it not that bit'. Which falls apart because the rest of the vote was about giving support to prevent child abuse and sex slavery and shit like that.... So if they're saying China voted yes for that part.... Then the fact Russia and co voted NO suggests that they are pretty against helping abuse victims and stuff.
In short, it was cope.
Russia enjoying child sex abuse is par for the course.
Things are fine comrade.
>January 2023
It's been 6 months, where are the vehicles?
Chat gpt?
Hallo sirs?
A western lowlife outcast?
We will never know.
Please anon tell us in Allah's name be honest.
>more and more soldiers
Actual US soldiers that died in Ukraine so far: 0
>and money
LMAO, the US has so far put less than 5% of their annual defense budget in, and it's already crippled the Russian Army.
>ukrainians losing all their heavy equip
And even if that wasn't another vatBlack person delusion, the west could trivially replace it anyway. Being like two orders of magnitude wealthier than third-world shitholes like Russia does come with perks like that.
>NATO soldiers there disguised in ukraine uniforms
May we see them?
>pic
LMAO, Putin wants to pay $7.1 billion for a bunch of MRAPS and Hummers? LMAO, what a ripoff.
God I wish this was true. Imagine the self-own of preferring second hand US equipment from the Taliban rather than Russian tech?
why dont you value your own peoples' life? is it because your are a subhuman?
Oh no, how will the west ever recover from this... oh wait
"As of May 2000, 4,641 M2s had been produced for the U.S. Army."
Russian plans always work. The plans are simply adapted after the fact to correspond to whatever outcome was achieved.
Russia trying to win a war of attrition with a country that has both a gigantic military industrial complex and a reason to use it? Yeah, that didn't work out so great for the last guy that tried that.
Reminder that the last guy actually was Russia
It's a bit sad that nobody understood what you meant...
After all, Russia has been very clear that their plan for the "demilitarization" of Ukraine was to force it to replace their old and unreliable Soviet era equipment with modern NATO ones.
And on this front, I'd say that the plan is going splendly!
you NEED to go back
You first, mudhut dweller
You need to go back to your containment website teen.
>30
>unlimited
Threadly reminder that Ukraine has received roughly 1/5th of what western military experts have been advocating since 2022.
>western military experts
list them
Me
Armchair Warlord
Emmanuel Macron
Gonzalo Lira
Clausewitz
Nightmare blunt rotation
Reminder that Lira leaked Ukie troop locations and is now facing 6-8 years in prison.
Hope this puts a smile on your face 🙂
honestly that moron is lucky hes only getting 8 years max, had it been any other time in history he would be dead several months ago
Yeah it's basically a slap on the wrist for what he did.
I'm delighted that frickwit got six years. Nice one Ukraine. The internet is a better place
>Me
>Armchair Warlord
>Emmanuel Macron
>Gonzalo Lira
>Stalin
>Lenin
>Putin
>Nigel Farage
>Fidel Castro
Yes unlimited. 6 visually confirmed destroyed Bradleys so far according to oryx and each aid package has more bradleys in it. It’s going to be a fixture for the rest of the war
>Ukraine commander just reached t3 and activated "arsenal of democracy" special ability.
>russian commander is still suffering from negative consequences of failing to use "blyat storm" t1 ability properly.
Can't believe how shitty balance that game has. When I played iraqis against a US player a few years ago, damn US commander rushed my base with a gay timing push. Shit sucks.
Empire sprawl penalty exists for a reason.
Maybe the Russian player should have finished their "Purge the KGB" focus or released some satellite states. Or even fricking played the long game after spending half of his GDP on subversion for 20 years.
Didn't all homosexual streamers say that russian units were super broken and didn't need great mil invest compared ro nato stuff? Some guy made a spreadsheet how t80 rushes to berlin were super viable.
>empire sprawl penalty
Why the frick does the US not have that? They can build bases everywhere.
US bonus makes bases built in allied territory not count towards empire sprawl. They can spam bases outside of their own territory, it's incredibly OP.
China main here.
I can do your shitty bases but better. Afrika is the key to winning games.
>Why the frick does the US not have that?
Because they have only 5 Territories with only 1 of them being a full province and their Centralization is low.
>Why the frick does the US not have that
They spin everything out into vassals. Who cares if they lose some taxes if their core territory produces more off the trade bonuses?
I watched that stream. You sperged out for 15 years and had plenty of time to build your economy.
rolling
Daily reminder that the lend lease didn't even start.
It's SO over.
will it though?
So far they are doing without.
What are some good US defense companies to invest in? I know I'm late but I didn't have disposable income until now.
I like Raytheon. Nearly a 3% dividend and a long history of dividend increases. GD is also a dividend aristocrat but its dividend growth is much slower. Obviously only invest in the American defense companies
Depends on whether you're looking for price growth or dividend yield.
Uhh dividend yield. Dividends are much more important than share appreciation. You don’t own any stock in a company if they don’t pay dividends
Denmark just announced their F-16 will be prematurely retired.
But I am sure this is a coincidence unrelated with the current event, SIRS
The real question is not when F-16s will be available, but when we started training Ukrainian pilots. I really hope it was already going on way before the topic of F-16s even came up in public debate.
Basically damaging for decades the enemy without dropping american blood around. This war is the wet dream of CIA/US. Ukies are just taking advantage.
You can keep sending meat to the front untill you run out
>the best western IFV
Germany hasn't given them any Pumas though?
You literally only like it because it's OP in war thunder.
These look really gay
Why curved banana
more banan per banan
>called puma
>looks like a tapir
kraut logic
test
>best western IFV
I'll take the holiday inn express IFV instead.
The tactical advantage lies in the rest of the brigade extemrianting hundreds of ziggers and gaining more ground in the meantime, leaving subhuman shills like you to spam the same video over and over because it's all you have left.
What the frick do they even have? Tank webm, bradley+leo pic, now a single guy getting his leg blown off by a small mine. Wow I'm so demoralized after seeing the utter fricking destruction and disintegration of Russian meat, metal and concrete.
Total zigger death.
They will post it at you again, perhaps even find a picture of the same leopard from yet another angle, and then you will surely be demonitized. ZZZig Heil!
Why so many bradleys and no abrams for demining?
Ukraine needs to quit playing Nod, it's not fair, they can just fly in more IFVs anytime!
>they have the largest manufacturer as a close ally
Emperor Z scrapes and bows pitifully before Chairman X
Kek, let me dig out the old based chink posters.
I would give ten (you)s to see their reactions to the civil tardfight
Alright, these bilibili Black folk are funny.
I already read Japanese. Might as well teach myself Chinese to read the bants.
>Gacha banner references
Top tier bants
So the /chug/ counter offensive victories went from the leopard/bradley highway of death to "that one guy that got blown up by a mine"
Ask me how I know things are going badly for Russia.
Kek it’s really funny seeing this suddenly everywhere. I wonder if it’s put in a distributed telegram, or in a more ad hoc grassroots discord, or if it’s distributed by the management of individual shillfarms
I never understood why people assume we are sending actual pallets of money. Nearly all of these vehicles and equipment were already bought and paid for. They were either going to be scrap or get used. I'd rather bubba in Pennsylvania and Alabama make some money producing artillery shell casings and javelins than some hinga dinga durgen scandicuck.
we taked 3 Bradley's, copeoffensive is over.
30 Bradley's and 25 Stryker's in exchange