>Survives initial Cordyceps pandemic
>Survives totalitarian QZ Government
>Survives apocalyptic wilderness
>Succumbs to AIDS
>Survives initial Cordyceps pandemic. >Survives totalitarian QZ Government. >Survives apocalyptic wilderness
>Survives initial Cordyceps pandemic
>Survives totalitarian QZ Government
>Survives apocalyptic wilderness
>Succumbs to AIDS
It's pretty crazy how normal they try to make being gay when the lifestyle literally gives you aids kek.
it's propaganda, nothing more
Being this hypothetical type of monogamous gay wouldn't give you aids, though. Being a degenerate homosexual taking it up the ass ten times a night in the bathrooms of gay bars, like most gay men, definitely would however.
homosexuals don't act like this in real life, this is israelite gay propaganda inserted into the story. It was actually detrimental to the game story.
>living gives you aids
Is that russian education at work? No wonder why putinland has such a high rate
lifestyle like drinking metric ton of piss, doing standard frick parties breeding horrible new diesease with fellow homos and other gay passtimes definetly gives you aids
It’s way better to get heterosexual super gonorrhoea.
is none issue among white population. keep seething. and yes btw. gonorrhea is much better than homosexual diseases that dont even have names.
… what about women’s piss?
It's extremely dishonest too.
>how can we make people like homosexuals?
>I know we'll just make them have a straight relationship
Homos aren't like this.
they have to justify gays because gays give thek money
gays are great consoomers like women but unlike women they dont have children
>the lifestyle
what lifestyle?
non-stop buttramming and drugs
neither create aids out of thin air
Stop pretending like gays aren't disease ridden vermin
I'm bi, and all that shit keeps me fricking mainly women. Grindr is a cesspool, I don't want to get monkeypox aids or warts on my dick. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be at those anal fisting parties in the streets but I won't be found there or near any of those walking biohazards. I'm even hesitant to just kiss a guy, and it has nothing to do with anything except them being way way way more likely to have a disease AND give zero fricks about if I get it or not. Commies, everyone!
same except for the fisting and piss shit i just wanted a fwb with a cute twink or loose femboy since their shelf life is so short anyway but i will not take the chance unless i know without a shadow of a doubt theyre clean and they literally have kits to hide positive tests so a secret boyfriend is probably never happening
Wait was it actually aids?
NOBODIES GOT AIDS
No. OP is a flaming moron who wants (Yous)
Yes, it was obviously AIDS
Why didn't Bill have aids?
he was pitching not catching
Only the gays who get fricked in the ass (bottoms) get AIDS
Yes it was AIDS
Why does he look like Jordan Peterson
BEDEVILLED AIDS
Because Jordan Peterson is a homosexual
>THATS THE BLOODY THING ABOUT DINNER PARTIES!
My mind went to cancer in the brain or spine.
It was brain cancer. They mentioned needing an MRI.
That's gay code for massive rectal injection
Kek
Did they change the Bill Frank dynamic, or just make it unnecessarily long?
It's a 50 minute recreation of the opening scenes from Up! and at the end, Bill and Frank suicide together romantically in each other's arms because Bill cannot bear to live without Frank. Ellie never meets Bill. Joel only interacts with him in a single flashback.
Holy shit that's so much worse. I thought it was the normal story from the game with tacked on flash back hahahaha
I can't believe people defend it. The game version is so much better.
It comes off at pretty moronic when you try to tear into the show after admittedly not watching it.
>needs a diagnostic scan so we can then not perform the curative therapy because it isn't available
what's the point of running any sort of test when the medical treatment for it is unavailable to you?
also without dedicated staff for an MRI machine, there is zero chance any layman could operate one without killing someone. they are dangerous as frick, especially when not caliberated correctly.
MRI machines also need constant maintenance and replacement parts. Worked at a factory that made hundreds of fuses for MRI machines a day
it's MS
MS doesn't kill you
Whatever he had didn't kill him either tbf. He just wants to die because he's losing function in a zombie apocalypse.
of course it's AIDS, they are homosexualS
IT'S THE BEST
no. It's never specified but it's obviously ms or als which was confirmed in the official podcast
He was middle-aged poof from maryland. Of course he had aids. You can't get gay drugs in the apocalypse.
https://vocaroo.com/1ggTWjftCqzj
I thought it is something like sclerosis.
It's ALS. They cut a scene where he trips and falls and his hands sake a bit because his movement is starting to decline, bill uses the infected detector on him and comes out green so they realise he has ALS. They cut it because it was way too real but now the episode has a 10 year time skip and feels a bit off
They cut it because the previous scene is Bill being shot, the previous scene to that is Bill saying he's aging faster. They then timeskip 10 years and we assume Bill is in the wheelchair.
>They then timeskip 10 years and we assume Bill is in the wheelchair
Yeah we assume it because he just got shot. It was well done
>muh subverted expectations
Grow up homosexual
The dude that got shot isn't the same dude that ends up in the wheelchair though
Read what I said moron
It shows Frank in the wheelchair immediately though. There's no fakeout trying to get you to think it's Bill in the wheelchair.
Not in the very first shot as they're leaving the house, you just innately assume it's Bill because of the previous scene.
yes AIDS
no, it wasnt. They had meds to treat Frank with, and if it was AIDS then he would have been taking a lot more than just 2 pills per day. Plus Aids doesnt make you wheelchair bound like Frank was. Not to mention that AIDS meds arent really capable of killing a horse, like Bill said he dosed them both with.
Its either a tumor in the spine/brain, or some degenerative illness like ALS.
there are 11+ STR now for AIDS, homosexual.
hope you don't work in the medical field because you're full moron and have no idea what you're talking about.
In the podcast they said it's left intentionally vague but meant to be MS or ALS.
The creators confirmed that it isn't specified exactly but when he wrote it he thought of MS or ALS.
If it was at all realistic about gays it would have been aids
it was monkey pox
Shouldn't have taken the vaccine. Goyicide.
I cant tell what is more cancer:
>Left wing dipshits celebrating "woohoo finally gays in my commercial product!"
>right wing dipshits whining "waaaahh not GAY in my commercial product!!!"
jesus christ
>I can't decide if a group that normalizes and celebrates mental illness is more cancerous than the opposing group
have a nice day homosexual
You know what's a mental illness? Believing a book that claims that The Garden of Eden and Adam and Eve were real. Now, that's fricking crazy.
Yes. Siege Heil.
what book?
novelization of adam and eve vs canibals. wacky shit
No that's rational.
It's the New Testament or bust, chud.
Ywnbaw
based, not sure why we haven't euthanised every right wing person on the planet yet
Are you implying that opposing homosexuals is mentally ill?
To the degree of obsession chuds show? Yes.
Couldn't the same be said about the people defending homosexuals? Obsession seems like a pretty weak argument when both sides post so regularly.
>I cant tell what is more cancer
Your vax addled brain, for one
moron, a significant portion was dedicated to "muh homosex" and dragged down the rest of the episode.
All this shit isn't presented without intend. That's the crux of wokeness, it's always hostile, it's always an agenda.
>people being in love is an agenda because daddy israelitesus said so
You are proving me right though, this shit is written by people like you full of hatred and warped values.
Gays aren’t capable of love. Their “relationships” are based solely on abuse and hypersexual lust. What Hollywood propaganda shows you is a sanitized version of what gays do in real life in order to get normal people to relate to them and accept their mental illness.
Because as we all know beating your wife and forcing her to be your house slave is true love, right?
As opposed to using a man's sexuality against him in order to get food and shelter and then ultimately, selfishly, demanding he kill the one he loves because you're bored of being alive.
Maybe that's how your parents did it but it's not usually like that
It's not the 1950s kek and lesbians and gays have the highest domestic abuse percentages
It's almost like their relations are unnatural and unhealthy or something
>It's not the 1950s
You're right, it's the 2020s where you'll never even get laid in the first place
The last attack of a defeated femoid, kek.
Go jam plastic up your clam and pretend you're better.
It´s sad you havent found good men anon, maybe you are looking in the wrong places
Got my both eyes out for Mr. Right
Guessing now I just don't know where to find them
But I hope they all come out tonight
Where do the good boys go to hide away, hide away
need a safe space snowflake?
>people celebrating gay propaganda
>people complaining about gay propaganda
>"they're both annoying, let me just swallow my propaganda in peace!"
you are not some zen monk centrist, you're the definition of an NPC
This. I really don’t get how people delude themselves into thinking the people upset about woke bullshit and propaganda in everything are just as bad as the people putting it in everything and celebrating it. Like what are we supposed to do? Just say nothing and happily consoom propaganda? Fence sitting morons like them are literally the worst, they try to pretend like they’re better than everyone because the consoom the propaganda without noticing or saying anything? I just don’t get it. Like you said, they’re the definition of NPC
That’s because those people are leftists and shills themselves trying to use the horseshoe theory to convince people to eat their goyslop, condo on the propaganda, and stop complaining
You could shut the frick up and consuuuuuum decades worth of media that isn’t “woke” if it actually was about wanting to not consume certain things you dislike m. But instead you want to be an attention prostitute whining and throwing tantrums about the latest popular thing every month, every week, every new passing year. Talk about a pathetic existence.
that's pretty much it, isn't it? don't want to swallow endless current year propaganda ruining every cultural product put out by any major corporation? don't watch it. check out entirely from society. don't complain that politics is poisoning the artistic ability of every "creative", that's too gauche, entitled, pathetic. just wallow in isolation and let everything get even worse.
you sound vaccinated
I can tell you, it's the fence sitting Black folk such as yourself
Welcome to the 21th century everything is political and no you don’t get to be neutral
>yes, I'll get this deadly disease so we can frick each other in the ass and have gay orgies
Do gays really?
>gays
Nope, just americans
Obsession is a stinky cologne.
>Obsession is a stinky cologne.
>Muh tired oldmen
They were like 60
And that was cancer
AIDs predisposes you to cancer
So he had both?
Untreated AIDS will kill you faster than 20 years.
I love how the lived experience of homosexuals always amounts to dying of aids because on top of being disgusting homos they are extra degenerate sex freaks
gay people exist, get over it
No. I can fix them.
WW3 is looming and LGBTQIA+ BIPOCHs are getting creamed by the big dogs and you're worrying about a diversity storyline?
How much time do you spend browsing the article of LGBTQNation anon?
Why do they insist on portraying gays as monogamous couples? gays are always fricking around
You just answered your own question. They're trying their hardest that gays are le good. Normalgays won't admit this but deep down they think gays are disgusting too, because it's a completely normal reaction to gays. You have to condition yourself to like them.
You don't have to condition yourself to like them. It's older society that conditioned people like you to hate queer people. I had 2 dads growing up, because my b***h mom left my gay dad after I was born. I turned out fine. Been happily married to the woman of my dreams for 27 years with 2 kids, one of which I've put through college.
>because my b***h mom left my gay dad
do you didn’t have two dads. You had one like everyone else on earth. He just happened to be a homosexual that started sucking dick when his wife left him (presumably for being a homosexual)
Not all gays are the ones you hook up with on grindr anon
but enough of them do to make the average homosexual - 47 years lifespan riddled with STDs alcohol and drug abuse and at least 1k partners
People die, anon.
People are just mad a fictional gay couple had a more fulfilling life together than they do irl and have to hide it under a veneer of irony and homophobia to hide their own embarrassing insecurity
the tv show doesn't show all the leakin anuses you know when you run out of diaper supply a leaky anus can be very problematic. its even problematic when you have a ready supply of diapers for catching the fecal matter falling out of your gay prolapsed anus. that you prolapsed to feel anal sex pleasure
Most gays need 4 to 5 diapers PER DAY i heard from a friend
no way, is it that bad?
They do need diapers if they bottom too much. Your butthole can only take so much. I've heard this from the medical professionals in my family. They are all super liberal too.
NTA
I knew these people were dirty, I can't believe I used to believe their "love is love" bullshit
imagine being so weak minded that reactionary propaganda actually works on you
I'm sure there are some homosexuals out there that want monogamous relationships, but gays love like unprotected sex orgies. Even the monogamous ones wear their buttholes out. Monkeypox spread because of unprotected sex, and the media stopped talking about it when animals and children started getting it.
>homophobia
>Coined by George Weinberg, a psychologist, in the 1960s,[15] the term homophobia is a blend of (1) the word homosexual, itself a mix of neo-classical morphemes, and (2) phobia from the Greek φόβος, phóbos, meaning "fear", "morbid fear" or "aversion".[16][17][18] Weinberg is credited as the first person to have used the term in speech.[14] The word homophobia first appeared in print in an article written for the May 23, 1969, edition of the American pornographic magazine Screw, in which the word was used to refer to heterosexual men's fear that others might think they are gay.[14]
Wait, why is Bill's gay buddy alive here? In the game they had a fight, he left and later you find him dead with a note saying how much he hated Bill
because they changed Bill and Frank to both commit suicide via drug overdose than leave Bill alive in peace like in the game. All in all i dont think it matters much, Bill wasnt exactly a relevant character after you meet him and leave him in game.
it's not a 1:1 adaptation
It's more like a 1:41 adaptation.
thank god because the game's story was okay at best. gamers just have low standards
Because in the game one of the gay people is still alive at the end of his arc. This way they get to kill two gays with one bottle of wine.
That would have been a much better story than what we got.
Show the meeting, maybe not as detailed, build their relationship, and show it was all faked for surviving.
i am never exposed to more homosexualry than on this board
Cuckmann is based for exposing lolberts as the gays they are
>AIDS
They never mentioned it. I thought it was cancer? Wouldn't Bill also have AIDS? Did they use condoms?
If it was just cancer, why wouldn't they name it outright? It was meant to be AIDS, but someone realized it'd be better to leave it a little ambiguous to avoid a shitshow.
>It was meant to be AIDS
AIDS is not a DND.
AIDS guy argues with Ron Swamson about the government being fascist before the outbreak. Somehow the "not fascist" government rounded everyone up who wasn't infected like 2 days after the outbreak to go to the FEMA camps or execute them
This episode seemed like such a waste of time, i thought that one of the gay dudes was gonna be a character going forward but they both die. What was the point, the story didnt progress at all other than they have a truck now.
with both of them dead, nothing's keeping joel in boston. bill's letter saying something about how "joel and him are protectors" and then going on about tess is what's gonna motivate him to take ellie west
what? bill wouldn't keep joel in boston anyway. especially given the fact that they're already 10 miles outside of boston when the episode starts. all the episode did was steal away some of ellie's best characterisation and the catalyst for joel beginning to trust her in order to give us a gay hallmark movie instead.
no what the episode did was give joel and ellie a truck and supplies, the bill and frank expository arc is good tv to anyone who's mind hasn't been completely poisoned by politics. plus they need to keep doing these side stories, it's a tv show, not abc movie of the week
>no what the episode did was give joel and ellie a truck and supplies
Which it could have done without the gay romantic dramedy in the middle. It also completely robbed Ellie and Joel of some of their best moments (that you're unaware of because you havent played the game, evidently).
>it's a tv show, not abc movie of the week
but they literally changed it from a tv show into an abc movie of the week by pulling us away from the actual story for nearly an hour, to watch two gays fall in love and live happily ever after til death do us part. in a fricking apocalypse.
You have no idea how to structure a long form narrative because your brain is all fricked up from gamer gate type stuff.
>gamer gate
What the frick are you babbling about? Having a completely irrelevant side-story in the middle of any film or TV show is fricking moronic. It has absolutely nothing to do with gaming or gamergate or politics. If I stick Jackie Chan on and 30 minutes in, it changes to a David Attenborough documentary for an hour, then back to the Jackie Chan film, I'll think that's moronic too.
Explain to me why they needed to change it. Tell me explicitly, in your own words, why they couldn't have had a more action-oriented episode where Ellie saves Joel's life and Joel learns to trust her more. Tell me.
The Bill segment is THE moment Joel sees Ellie as someone he can trust. It is the most pivotal moment in the entire story. Nothing else in the story if Ellie doesn't save his life here.
> Having a completely irrelevant side-story in the middle of any film or TV show is fricking moronic.
> irrelevant
Yikes, you just didn’t get it I guess. It was either politics or stupid and I wanted to be charitable. The relevance of the story is clear to anyone with a brain.
Use your words anon. Come on, you can do it. Tell us all why showing 50 minutes of Bill and Frank is relevant. And don't forget, all the relevant context is exposited to us via the letter, so it has to be stuff that is not mentioned in the letter that bears relevance to the plot. Go on, let's hear it.
>WAAAHH WAHHHH U JUS HATE GAYS
As I stated plainly above. It would be a waste of an episode of it was a random straight couple too. Try to actually engage in the discussion instead of plugging your ears and screaming "YOU'RE HITLER".
>they didn't want to make generic shit
>person meets stranger and falls hopelessly in love, they galavant around town planting flowers and decorating their new home and eating strawberries until one of them gets sick as they get older
Boy that really is TOTALLY UNIQUE! Your only defence, ironically, is that they're gay and that makes it better for some reason.
How is
>action-oriented episode where Ellie saves Joel's life and Joel learns to trust her more
unique?
A long term gay romance between two men is much more unique and interesting just due to the fact it’s not done in TV.
It doesn't need to be unique. Why are you so utterly focused on unique? If generic serves the story better than unique, then you should go generic.
You were the one talking about TOTALLY UNIQUE
>>Why couldn’t it be a paint by the numbers generic action pew pew pew episode
t. you
You were objecting that I wanted a "paint by numbers". Meaning you believed the opposite to be inherently more valuable. Try to keep up.
>We see earlier stages of Joel’s relationship with Tess.
We see nothing of their relationship beyond them sitting at a table together for about 20 seconds.
>We see that there are dangerous groups of people besides FEDRA out there.
We learn this in the Bill segment in the game when Bill exposes Joel for having been one of those dangerous people.
>We see that some people found a better life after the fall.
This is fricking moronic and has no place.
>We are reminded that despite your urge to self insert Joel that no one survives alone.
Plenty of people do. Bill certainly did.
You genuinely seem to have the most tenuous of grasps on this thing.
Do you have to fight strawmen every time in order to make yourself feel good or is it a little treat for yourself every now and then? I never declared "unique=bad". But uniqueness for the sake of uniqueness, is bad.
>this is fricking moronic
Nice argument bro.
> Plenty of people do.
The point is that Joel can’t.
Anyways, you ignored the strongest point I made about juxtaposition because you know I’m right so I’ll let it stand there. Last you. Enjoy seething, the rest of us will enjoy the decent-to-good new show.
>because you know I’m right so I’ll let it stand there
NTA but that's pretty lazy copout. The game version of the story is better, but if you enjoy this fairly generic reimagining of it then I'm happy for you.
>The point is that Joel can’t.
Yes, that is the entire point of the whole fricking journey we were sitting down to watch but instead got spoonfed the message in a 50 minute homosexual version of Up! In case you're unaware, that's bad writing. It is a sign of a bad show or film when the writers have to beat you over the head with the message of the show instead of just letting you experience it. The fricking letter was half a step away from saying "Joel, you and I truly are The Last Of Us Part I on HBO" for frick sake.
The juxtaposition you were talking about is already present in the fricking game's story, you brainlet c**t. Except it's better, because you learn what Joel used to be and that Ellie is his redemption instead of just "omg the imagery of like omg like one side of the fence is like bad and like the other side of the of the fence is like good"
the point is not that bill can survive alone but that hes miserable while doing it YOU FRICKING moron THATS THE POINT. instead of spoonfeeding the viewer with a "you need someone to care for!!!!" goodbye letter, the viewer should notice themselves the bitterness bill lives with
I'm sorry chud, but big gay hairy homosexuals in the apocalypse are not allowed to be bitter buttholes that hate each other ok? They must be hairy teddy bears that stick together. We borrowed a beautiful fanfic that had bara illustrations of Bill and Frank which is an improvement over the the game version of the story.
>homosexuals in the apocalypse are not allowed
based. heterosexual post apocalypse is the correct post apocalypse
>instead of spoonfeeding the viewer with a "you need someone to care for!!!!"
And that's dumb for the show Joel because his whole motivation from day one has been reuniting with his brother, what would he need random homosexual to remind him to care about people when he already has someone he cares for and is fighting for? That time would be better used giving him reasons to care for Ellie beyond her being the means to reunite with Tommy
Yes. You wanted generic pew pew action that adds nothing to the show beyond mediocrity. Doing a gay love story is much more unconventional and ”unique” when compared to your trite shit and makes it better and more enjoyable because you don’t expect something so emotionally compelling. It serves the story better.
There is literally no reason you have to watch the latest TV show or movie if you are so fricking triggered by wokeness that you have to b***h about it all the time. It’s just entertainment. There is literally nothing stopping you from finding old entertainment that suits your snowflake feelings better. Stop playing the victim and stop being such a little b***h. It’s pathetic fake victimhood.
>WHY THE FRICK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT UNIQUENESS
>actually it was you who brought it up
>YES AND I WAS RIGHT
lmao
Oh no his brain broke. How sad.
I accept your concession, homosexual.
>Keeps replying
Oh no what shall I ever do to make this idiot to stop embarrassing themselves
stay mad homosexual
That's a mirror
You are literally saying "It's good because it's gay". That's your ENTIRE argument right now. I want you to realise that. I want you to admit that the quality doesn't matter, the story doesn't matter, nothing else matters except that it shows gays positively and you like that because you're gay. Because the story itself is not unconventional in the slightest.
No, I’m saying delivering something unexpected and emotionally touching wins paint by the numbers muh action every day. Because your shot is generic and cliche. A touching romance story in a apocalyptic setting is the opposite of it. But of course you can’t see past the gay part because the very concept triggers you
>person meets person, falls in love, montage of happiness, eating food, planting trees, watering flowers, getting married and then one of them dying
That's as paint by numbers and cliche and generic as it fricking gets. The ONLY difference is that they're gays.
>A touching romance story in a apocalyptic setting
How many times did TWD do this?
They could have fleshed out the game version more and it would have been a lot better and still very gay. Maybe Bill would die tragically of cordyceps because he made love to Franks corpse?
>But of course you can’t see past the gay part because the very concept triggers you
Disgusts would be more accurate
it triggers you. accept that you're sensitive
I don't use your gay nuspeak, homosexual. gays disgust me.
does being in gay 1984 trigger you
It was gay in the game and was 100X better.
> uniqueness in art is bad
You have some kind of brain problem. It’s the only explanation.
We see earlier stages of Joel’s relationship with Tess.
We see that there are dangerous groups of people besides FEDRA out there.
We see that some people found a better life after the fall.
We are reminded that despite your urge to self insert Joel that no one survives alone.
We are shown a juxtaposition between the absolute worst in human behavior (gunning down survivors that can’t be fed) and the absolute best (eating strawberries in the garden with someone you love).
All of these reflect on Joel’s relationship with Ellie, both it’s potential and it’s context.
TLDR you’re a fricking moron.
>Why couldn’t it be a paint by the numbers generic action pew pew pew episode
>Why did I need to be triggered and traumatised for life when I saw two old men kiss
Because the show runners actually care about making a good and entertaining show that is not just generic shit.
>It also completely robbed Ellie and Joel of some of their best moments
it's not an 1:1 adaptation. there's 6 more episodes to show some of their best moments from the game.
>pulling us away from the actual story for nearly an hour, to watch two gays fall in love and live happily ever after til death do us part. in a fricking apocalypse.
if you're only here to watch episodes of just joel and ellie, you're gonna be disappointed. more than likely, a significant portion of the 2nd season will be a dystopian slice of life
Award season.
Wait is this true?
>portray healthy gay relationship
>omg so progressive
>show the homosexual dies of aids
That's hilarious
showrunners are moronic because AIDS puts you in a wheelchair when you're near death just like any other degenerative chronic disease with no true cure.
also AIDS eventually results in neurological complications like AIDS dementia complex (ADC) and in severe cases you end up with MS/ALS-like symptoms due to encephalitis.
seriously doubt they are consulting anyone before spewing this garbage out, high level of incompetence as per usual.
This is one of the most moronic posts ever.
He straight out tells you it isn't aids but you are still doing mental gymnastics to get your stupid AIDS agenda to work.
It dishonest that it wasn't aides. Aides would have been homophobic unless you are making a movie like Philadelphia. That movie was so brave showing us a degenerate sex addict dying of a disease that is easily preventable.
If we can pin every elderly death in the past 3 years on Covid it’s completely reasonable to classify every homosexual death as AIDS
NOOOO ONLY US AT THE CDC GET TO INFLATE STATISTICS AND PUMP NUMBERS
STOP DOING IT WITH THE VACCINE AND OTHER DISEASES WE CONVENIENTLY IGNORE
MONKEYPOX ACTUALLY ISN'T A REAL DISEASE THATS SPREAD BY SEX AND WE STOPPED REPORTING IT WHEN CHILDREN AND SMALL ANIMALS STARTED GETTING IT
> IGN rates homosexual episode a 10
Hard to take anything serious these days.
It was a good episode. If it was a man and a woman it would have been a good episode. Who fricking cares.
If it was a man and a woman it would've been the exact same waste of time that it already was. It is COMPLETELY irrelevant to the story.
The story is about people surviving and dealing with a post apocalypse in different ways. The cure is a macguffin to showcase that. Only brainlets hard focus on that.
The story is about Joel and Ellie, you fricking spastic. Last of Us isn't a World War Z anthology series about different groups of people reacting to the apocalypse in different places and times. It's about Joel and Ellie's journey. This episode is as much a waste of time as if we sat and watched some African tribe in Namibia for 50 minutes fighting zombies before cutting back to Ellie and Joel.
>Being too stupid to understand the need to make changes to accommodate a tv show format given that you can’t just do the game 1:1 for obvious limitations and limited story
>being too moronic/ dishonest to admit that the necessity of making a less-than-hundred-percent accurate adaptation doesn’t mean you need to spend an episode of that show on a gay love story that has no impact on the protagonists
You can do it if you want to, but you don’t need to do, and it’s legitimate to criticise any deviation if it doesn’t develop the central plot or characters in some way. This episode is a total non sequitur. If future episodes entertain similar diversions and those diversions have some sort of thematic relevance it’ll be okay.
Agreed. Everything should be experienced Realtime from the point of view of either Ellie or Joel. Flashbacks are lazy and distracting.
Man, gay love really bothers you doesn’t it. Have you seen a therapist about this?
I just said it’d be fine if future episodes also go in depth on other side characters. If the only side characters they develop are two periphery gay characters then obviously it’s both inorganic story-telling and dishonest Twitter bait.
no you dont understand, they couldnt recreate the games version because bill teaches you how to throw a grenade and that just doesnt work in another medium
here, have 70 minutes of gays fricking each other in the ass and eating the turd nuggets off each others wieners instead
What is it like thinking about men’s anuses and poop all day long? Do you have an OCD about wiping or do you use a bidet?
i use a bidet of course, im a white male with class, and my gf doesnt like to get her dildo dirty
I like how people act like this generic love story is the only alternative to the game version. Like they couldn't expand on it and keep it how it was under any circumstances. Tragic gay love story or NOTHING
Why is the game world littered with stories and lore about how other people dealt with the apocalypse? Why does their journey matter? Why does their relationship matter? What do we measure their relationship against?
And those are the easy questions that answer why your why your world view is tiny and pitiful.
Watching Bill frick Frank is not "worldbuilding" you fricking dolt lol.
Hi, I’m gay, and I just want to say you really need to stop using gay people and queer lives to decorate your moral trophy cabinet. Thanks. Gay suffering is not fuel for your vanity.
Did you like the game or tv version of the story?
I haven’t seen the TV show and the game is shit regardless of the it’s queer representation. The plot has all the depth of a Walking Dead episode, the characterisation is hacky and trite, and its gameplay is equally as formulaic. A zombie-horror-survival escort game shouldn’t be made up of 90 percent third-person gunfights against generic baddies.
>90 percent third-person gunfights against generic baddies
I can't argue with that. I hate how they always focus on the human conflicts in the shows as well.
Weren't they homosexuals in the game too? I think I vaguely remember it was implied a character was gay.
They were homosexuals who grew to hate each other because the bleak, awful, depressing, violent post-apocalpytic world tore their relationship apart due to Bill's paranoia and Frank's incessant optimism. Frank leaves Bill, kills himself and writes "Frick you Bill" in the suicide note.
Republicans unironically think this episode and San Junipero are bad because the main characters are gay.
Is it autism?
I dont really give a shit if there are gay people in stories, I just dont want the story to be "Look they are gay".
This entire episode was just shoving a homosexual relationship down our throats with very little to expand upon the story. It didnt grow the protagonist in anyway, and it was 40 minutes just to end with Joel getting a truck and some supplies.
Its just bad story telling.
He shouldnt have died, or if he was going to die, he should have had a better relationship with Tess evolved, or Joel, one that shows why he respects him.
You could skip this entire episode and next episode they could have had a seen where they say, "Sorry that your friend died" Joel saying, "He wasnt a friend, just a survivor like me, at least he kept this old truck running" and the story would advance the same.
A lot of gay wieners seem to go down your throat these, mate. You sure you aren’t just into sucking wiener and are in denial about it?
>dont really give a shit if there are gay people in stories
queer. why not use normal people?
I want to play the game. Is there some emulator for PC to run this?
You can either emulate the PS3 version or buy the port of the "remake" that comes out in a few week
The first game is being released on the 3rd of March and it'll likely be pirateable the day it's released.
play it on Youtube
Any good play through you recommend?
I usually watch MKfireandIce because he doesn't make commentary.
It's just pandering to people who confuse subtlety with underrepresentation. The game handled it way better. Flashbacks are lazy
Ellie did I ever tell you about my lover? It was a man. So in order to have sex I'd stick my penis in his shitty butthole and poo would get everywhere and he'd have to suck it off. It happened all the time. Sometimes he'd get a prolapsed butthole or hemorroids from me doinking him.
No it wasn't gross. It was completely normal and if you think it is Ellie then you are an incel Chud.
Also he was a good friend.
>be a degenerate abomination
>get aids
Many such cases! Being gay should be illegal.
I watch the show to see zombies get killed and apocalypse politics enacted. I don’t watch it for depressing gay romance. I think I’m moving in from this show.
P.s. Nick Offermen actually awesome, not a weeping butt-blasting die for you homosexual.
i didnt like the burly anus stretching much, but i fricking hated how idyllic their lives were. i mean what is the difference between them and a regular gay couple in the real world, they had easier lives compared to a 19th century rancher
also, how many old, childless gay (actually it applies to heteros too) couples are there RIGHT NOW in the world? if one of them gets cancer and dies, should the other one commit suicide since they have nothing to live for? thats how moronic the story is, because outside of their partner dying they had it pretty good
in the game they live in a shithole town that needs constant clearing of infected and they need equipment deliveries from Tess. bill uses a run down, dirty church as a safe house and doesnt eat fine dining restaurant level steaks every day, he looks like a hobo. fricking gay ass shit
Did Bill have some herd of cattle hidden somewhere? he was noshing on meat for decades
even if he ate steaks, it wouldnt have looked this fancy with wine pairings and fine cutlery, it looks so fricking moronic
also what kind of homosexual gets wine for the apocalypse instead of hard alcohol? oh wait
Hard alcohol sucks. Wine is way more pleasurable with food.
>wine pairings
>it's generally a good idea to drink Nouveau within a few months (if at all, he adds snidely), and regular Beaujolais and Beaujolais-Villages within a year or two after the vintage
Wouldn't a die hard prepper homosexual know this?
>Would a compulsive loner who agonizingly organized his beans and rice and maintains an organized schedule of maintenance and a self contained knowledge base all in the slim chance shtf know things?
Literally any obsessive prepper person I've ever met has an insane level of autistic type knowledge. It's 100% believable he'd be a wine snob.
Some of the best cooks I know have been the kind of people that do pain staking shit like and are obsessive DIY'ers
The compulsion to be in control and attention to detail doesn't begin and end with ammo types.
And to answer your question, I'd imagine he's working with what he has. If wine isn't being produced anymore, you take what you can get.
if it was aids why is offerman alright
He's immune
Image of Jordan Peterson relegalizing that he forgot the phrase with israelites you lose.
haha what a homosexual.
gaygs seething ITT is priceless. Last time they were this angry was probably buck breaking
calling everything propaganda because you're mad every form of media you consume is now less bigoted and is now portraying minorities in a good light
are you gay?
no, but i do have a gay son, why?
did you molest him? or some other homosexual?
how original
its not original, its main reason why people turn gay. So did you?
Of course he did.
same old talking points. can't just accept that the world's moved on from only caring about straight white men
did you molest your son?
you're literally a robot
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please ignore this bait everyone its really weak
Imagine being Bill. You get molested as a child, probably by some lowlife your mother brings around after she kicks your father to the curb for not being exciting enough. So you spiral out into schizoid tendencies, becoming more paranoid by the year. You try to have a normal relationship, but you can't because of the trauma. So you spiral further down. Your paranoia leads you to building a bunker and hording guns. But finally you're proved right, only to have some liberal dandy take advantage of your one moment of weakness to basically rape you and manipulate you so he can leech off your hard work and preparedness. If Bill had been a woman and Frank was a straight man twitter would have burned down in rage over this episode.
>the seething homosexuals in this thread
lol your rope will kill you before the AIDs will
no offense but if it is so right why does it feels so wrong to even see it
This but with maximum offense intended
no but seriously i'm not even that religious but i just cant take them and their representation of their love seriously without cringing and feeling disgusted
I do not remember this or the characters in the game.
The writers said he had a degenerative neurological disorder like MS or ALS.
>degenerative neurological disorder
Sounds gay
Honestly I sleep easy at night knowing you guys are seething endlessly over this. It's less than 1% of the suffering you would put people through if you still had the reins of society. I can't wait for the seething over the upcoming they/them moon bases and nonbinary cures for cancer.
believe me, its less than 0.001% even though i am suffering a lot right now
i thank god (not real btw) that you're gonna die in a world that you hate and your reward will be nothingness.
god is as real as gay love
>cheering the destruction of society through degeneracy and disease
Imagine thinking you're actually on the right side of history as a homosexual cheerleader.
homosexuals are wrong according to science and religion.
The only thing worse than a homosexual, is literally any reactionary which is the exact same thing as a homosexual but with added hypocritical angst
I'm not sure what you mean, could you please explain in greater detail and more clarity?
Christian evangelism and fascism are homosexual factories filled with projectors and the most vile filth human beings produce
homosexuals are still wrong according to science. They make no sense biologically and are just vectors for disease
And the evidence also suggests that people like you are degenerate sadists and not concerned for any kind of well-being as you falsely claim.
The busy-bodying moralists are the biggest kink freaks of all- it’s why they see desires as these unconquerable demonic forces. Indeed, they have lost the battle of wills to their own and seek salvation from their shame and frustration
>The busy-bodying moralists are the biggest kink freaks of all- it’s why they see desires as these unconquerable demonic forces. Indeed, they have lost the battle of wills to their own and seek salvation from their shame and frustration
I don't want aides. That's why I'm in a monogamous relationship with my wife.
The kink freaks you side with see disease as a kink itself. Their appetite is never sated and they will never stop pushing boundaries. You ally with the MAP crowd anon?
You sound like you have a lot of resentment. Have you thought about seeing a therapist about this?
Cope more, homosexual. The day of the crane hanging & rooftop hurling treatment for kiddie diddling sodomites and sodomite enabling gay hags like you approaches. At which tender age were you 'turned' by some older butt-vampire btw? The depths of the BOG awaits your disease-ridden carcass, AIDS-monke... Will you welcome its murky embrace Y/N?
Every time you losers take control you destroy the economy, ruin art, and take arbitrary rights away from law abiding citizens.
Not going to church, not living in fear, and shoving my tongue down my femboy partner's slender little throat.
You will never win.
You need to try less hard anon.
I had this face during what I assume was the sex scene (I fast forwarded it). But the rest of the episode was hearwarming actually, made me think of my gf and wanting to spend the rest of my life with her. If you can still feel empathy then the fact they're gay doesn't mean much, what they show are basic human emotions.
Empathy isn't black and white.
Also the show changed the story of Bill and Frank completely so this is seething for multiple reasons.
we're on the third episode of the show making pretty significant changes and getting gushing praise for it.
having to seethe vocally about every difference is clearly not stopping the seethers from watching the show.
Seething is cathartic anon.
I played the game and it's not some amazing masterpiece of storytelling either, I prefer this to le gruff survivalist stereotype that Bill was.
Dumb esl poster
reminder that gays are the real-life version of cordyceps carriers
There was no sex scene.
It cuts before anything happens.
everything to take money off of gays
If it was aids then bill would have it too
are gay bucks really this good?
im gonna start protstituting myself
He wouldnt've survived without a libertarian bf.
Wow that cut at .13 sec is actually kind of shit
>youre not homophobic
>take my money
it's that easy
>...what's your name
b-bill
>go get an enema bill
o-ok
I enjoyed the first two episodes of the show, but felt nothing and didn't really like episode 3.
I don't care that they changed it from the game, but there was no reason to devote almost an hour to side characters that don't intereact with the main characters during their current life.
It really feels like an emmy bait episode and nothing more
I wouldn't care if it was about gays or lesbians or straight relationships either. It's a weird as frick detour from what was established in the first 2 episode. Should have been a 15 minute segment at the start of the episode and nothing else.
Of course you also can't give that opinion otherwise you're just a bigot that hates gays or a sad sack that hates people in relationships, as opposed to someone that just doesn't give a frick about a overly sappy episode that stops the main narrative dead in its tracks the entire time.
Stunning and brave. Virtuous!
I've been thoroughly signaled.
Nice signal, homosexual. Here's your social/cultural approval dopamine injection: 3==============D
Also your shows suck lmao
They turned a respectable gay character into a giant homosexual.
You're just a dumb Black person for making it up lol the writer say it was some shit like ALS but im guessing you're too moronic to live life off the internet
It was GRIDS not AIDs you stupid fricks.
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