> Hanwha Ocean signs deal with Babwiener Canada to develop 12 submarines for Canada
> ThyssenKrupp signs deal with Mazagon to develop 6 submarines for India
Looks like China and Russia woke up the free world
Submarine procurement: Canada goes ROK, India goes Germany
Oh, brother. Imagine spending 3 months in a metal tube filled with the air from a kimchi container.
>India
>free world
lol
The good thing is even if they let Russians examine the sub is they won't be able to reproduce it anyway.
Word on the street is that there's a strong possibility that India ends up going with Hanwha Ocean
South Korean subs are the only conventional subs that can operate in arctic waters for months at a time, apparently some nukes have issues operating in the arctic circle which is where Canada's subs will be spending their time
This sounds like absolute bullshit, we've had subs operating for long periods in the Arctic for decades. Post something to back your shit up.
Canada will cancel their order, order from the US, cancel and then continue to use whatever they have currently forever. They will also blame the US and ROK for it the entire time.
India will sink the first one in port somehow.
>Canada will cancel their order, order from the US, cancel and then continue to use whatever they have currently forever. They will also blame the US and ROK for it the entire time
This, the feds are even more of a fricking embarrassment when it comes to military procurement than they are on everything else
>continue to use whatever they have currently forever.
The Upholder Class was pretty much at the end of it's service life by the time Canada got them. Now they spend more time above water than in it, and can only submerge something like snorkeling depth over concerns about their condition.
Just getting them somewhat operational cost Canada more than had they built new submarines.
i remember watching some news documentary about the upholders being brought up to service
the crew celebrating when they hit a stationary target like they won the super bowl was some sobering stuff
India is not the "free world", they are one of the most corrupt nations in the world. Modi literally shuts down entire news agencies for criticizing him.
Yes but they are a useful idiot for the free world, but agree if there were no china or russia, we'd probably treat them worse than ss africa
>doesnt close lid
>sir we are sinking
selling to india means that the tech will end up in russian hand or worse.lets not even talk about the loss of reputation because its a given that rakesh will sink it somehow.
>Indians buy German sub
>will let the good sirs from Moscow inspect it
>Russians will share whatever they learn with China for a couple of electric cars and smartphones
>China will use whatever they learn in their next submarine project
You forget that 25% of Germany to include their current capital was a Russian prostitutehouse for 50 years post WW2, Germans have stockholm syndrome with respect to Russia
>brings up rape of Berlin
>Thyssen-Krupp who will be making the sub are located in Essen, western Germany
>over 500km from Berlin
Bruh
India is part of BRICS and has been a Russian ally since the 1960s. They’re not free world and it’s honestly surprising there isn’t an arms embargo against them.
What weapon is that?
>Babwiener Design
lol
also you have got about ~1-2h of civilized discussion left before the SK shill wakes up and the thread goes to shit
I honestly don't know why canada needs subs. I think the money would be better spent on surface vessels for patrolling our absolutely massive coast. maybe they're planning on going under icebergs I don't fricking know. maybe get some new fricking planes too, our shit is rusty as frick and I'm pretty sure we don't have those F35s yet. frick. thanks for having our back America, we'd be totally fricked without you. pls annex soon, I'll give you syurp
Need them to patrol the artic, the only ocean that matters to Canada
You’re genuinely moronic. Why does an arctic fleet need subs? Jesus Christ, no wonder Canada’s military is so borked.
Canada's military is borked because Canadians are absolutely moronic when it comes to all things military, but they think they are all experts.
>I'll give you syurp
I still remember the day I ffound out you zany fricks actually maintain a "strategic maple syrup reserve" like your country's future rests upon it. Never change leafs.
>like your country's future
I'm not a leaf but it's not the most moronic idea. It's a big export product that can be kept for years without spoiling. Keeping a reserve can help them respond to changes in demand or supply while maintaining a stable price.
Still, I wish they'd take that effort and put it towards building a proper navy.
I mean, yeah, I get it. America does the same think with our cheese bunkers. Its just a funny idea that Canada take syrup that seriously that they have barrels of it kept in militarily guarded warehouses like other countries do with oil.
Wait until you hear about that big maple syrup theft which took place some time in the mid-10s.
>cheese bunkers
>maple syrup reserves
Is there anywhere one can read up on strategic food stockpiles?
Like does France have wine bunkers or Germany beer bunkers?