Can't believe England and France got rid of theirs because holy shit there's really no defense of stopping them in the air (yeah I know about vietnam, the one in Iraq and the one lost in a Russian airbase but I mean post cold war)
I fricking love these guys
Vietnamese AAA never turned back a bomber wave
Exactly! Yeah some were shot down I think in all 33? But come on. That didn't do shit
Is this bait?
Or has warthunder well and truly killed /k/
aside from stealth ones they're all useless for anything other than launching cruise missiles from way behind the frontline
they're not survivable against AA missiles and they're easily detected with their giant radar crosssection
You take that back the B52, B1, and TU-160 are sexy as frick
I don't like the Chinese one tho. Looks like a normal airplane with a bomb attached
Yeah honestly it doesn't look good
Just soulless
it's a copy of tu-16 from like 50s
I know
That's why I find it so soulless
There's no real improvement or different design philosophy it's just a Soviet knock off they keep upgrading
You use them and turn the enemy into dust once the AAs are disabled
You can launch thousands of drones On an air. Drones can't go fast or stay up long. Drop thousands of drones out refuel repeat.
Okay, they are impressive. Absolutely. But what do you actually do with them? Upkeep can't be cheap, modernizing them isn't either. But then, what do they do? It's not like we're still fighting proper nation vs. nation wars. Especially not with air capable nations. And those air capable nations that do, once in a blue fricking moon, decide to get into some fighting with each other don't really go on massive air raids and bombing runs on major cities. Isn't the vast majority of bombing done by jets, if not drones, anyway?
You use em to launch hundreds of missiles at once. Easy way to open a conflict really
Yah well never see a world war but say the United states wanted to invade Venezuela. You'd need hundreds of missiles in one go
Rapid Dragon just made them obsolete
B-1 maybe but have you even read about what the B-2 has done? Or just how much ordnance the B-52 can carry?
B-52
>12 JASSM (20 if the bomb bay is upgraded)
Rapid Dragon
C-130
>12 JASSM
C-17
>45 JASSM
So a single C-130 carries as much JASSM as a vanilla B-52, and a C-17 mogs two upgraded B-52s
Yes, and a B-52 is a B-52. Are you moronic or being intentionally obtuse?
plane fetishism doesn't win wars
>he thinks I'm referring to how much I LIKE the B-52
>if not drones, anyway?
disregard this entire post he's a fricking moron
I'm talking about proper fricking drones, not toys you can buy off Amazon and drop grenades or mortar shells with. Of course drones can drop bombs.
nah, still a moron. the rest of your post is moronic. the drone bit just confirms it.
Waste of money to build giant bomb trucks if governments aren't going to level cities anymore because of "muh civilian casualties"
why does the black jack have half the payload and combat radius of a b-52
It is the diference between a global and regional powers and problems.
I mean you only gotta bomb to Africa and the west coast. Why do you need a bomber to hit Australia
The Whitlam government almost necessitated such a strategic capability for the US and China
Because Russia can't make engines that do anything besides go fast for 10 seconds of burn time before exploding
Also isn't it supposed to be the Soviet version of a B1
Soviet Union material science started getting mogged by western Metallurgy toward the end of the Cold War, so their airframes ended up heavier. Their engines also tended to be less fuel efficient for equivalent T/W ratio, which exacerbates the weight issue by requiring a buttload more internal fuel . The tu160 weighs like 2x what a B1b does fueled but unarmed
>tfw no 747 with seventy-two cruise missiles
Why won't thirdies like Ukraine and Turkey built their own bombers by converting cargo aircraft like A-400 or An-124 into bombers? What is the technical requirement for making these bombers that separates them from large frame aircraft?
its responsive
Bomb trucks, only good for killing sand people who don't have IADS.
For everyone else, it's a cruise missile slinger.