Hello, I would be interested to learn how cigarettes are to be stored for a very long time so incase I am in need of help and out of money(maybe the currency changed so all my money is worthless) as would homemade alcohol be in a similar position.
Does anyone have any experience doing this?
What about storing individual cigarettes? What about packets of them? Or cartons?
If they're still plastic sealed in the carton they're good for a long time. Like probably years. Other than that, just keep the packages from getting damaged (from curious rodents for example) and don't worry about it
>If they're still plastic sealed in the carton they're good for a long time.
What about them not being plastic sealed? What if they were opened?
Vacuum sealing would probably work quite well.
>Vacuum sealing
Expensive and quite tech intensive
I suppose you could just Black personig it and use those vacuum bags that are for storing clothes and blankets.
>vacuum bags that are for storing clothes and blankets.
I've never heard of this, you stick a vacuum in a trash bag filled with clothes and it compresses?
Basically, but it's a higher quality plastic than a garbage bag.
Yes. Also useful for moving blankets, pillows and bed sheets etc in car.
There has been cheap consumer grade vacuum sealers on the market for years now.
Another option is sealing them inside mylar bags along with an oxygen absorber.
>Expensive and quite tech intensive
except no? you can get one for less than $100 online and also pick up a couple thousand of those silica packets for dirt cheap
Jesus Christ you're lazy and stupid. You don't like the answer. Do you just want to hear an answer that you like to hear, you lazy white trash pos.
Put em in a garbage bag and the closet in your trailer and they'll be fine, anon ^-^
They might pull moisture from the air
>cigarettes that were opened a week ago taste like ass
Growing up, my mom would buy the giant Marlboro packs. She'd take out a couple small packs and put the rest in the freezer until she was ready for another small pack
The cellophane isn’t 100% sealed. Old cigs taste like shit. One time I noticed a carton of these Camels that are hard to find in the cage at a gas station and bought em and they must have been buried back there for a year and they all tasted horrible and dry.
OP, I think you would need a humidor type setup. People already do what you want to do for cigars.
Best advice in the whole thread.
You don't need to frick about with LN2, you can use gaseous nitrogen . Just run the discharge line to the bottom of the gas-tite container, and begin filling. Check the level with a match. When the match goes out at the top of the container, seal it.
>you can use gaseous nitrogen
How to make/get?
Just buy it, it's commonly used for airsoft/paintball guns.
Any good industrial gas vendor should have lots of it, as it's also used in car tires, oleopneumatic struts on aircraft, and loads of other things. You'll want a cheap regulator as well, one from Harbor Freight should work.
>you can use gaseous nitrogen
>How to make/get?
meanwhile in the ACTUAL FRICKING POST
>small Dewar nitrogen
>Check welding supply places.
If you are feeling like fricking about with a cryogenic liquid instead of an easily obtained industrial gas, then go you.
Enjoy your rigid digits when you frick up, iceman.
You remain unable to read.
You cannot be helped.
Smoked for over 25 years, and it was normal to find a half a pack in the pocket the first time I put my winter coat on in December. They smoked fine, didn't taste bad? I'm guessing it's a menthol thing, because year old non-menthol Marlboro Lights weren't a problem. The real answer ITT is just to quit. I did it 6 years ago, feel great, have more money, but you guys go on and do what you want, it's your lives. And yeah I know it's a troll thread, made me reply.
>The real answer ITT is just to quit
I am looking to store them as they are a valuable commodity in times of crisis.
In times of crisis it won't matter. If a dude is tweaking for a cigarette he'll sell his mother for whatever kind of old stale crap that you have.
Marlboro Lights have no flavor to lose.
>Old cigs taste like shit
Still better than nothing
>cellophane
Mylar is your go to for inexpensive gas impermeability. Its why helium balloons are Mylar.
Don't let them dry out basically or it'll be like smoking dust at the end. Keep them sealed and in a room that's dark, not too damp and not too dry.
It's called a humidor
Cigarettes aren't cigars, they're supposed to be a way lower humidity content.
Chest freezer preserves all
>Chest freezer
We used to store our cigarette cartons ion the freezer.
is this actually good though?
How are you posting on PrepHole from prison, op? Did you sneak a cell phone in your ass?
Just grow tobacco, survival moron.
Best long-term storage for any vegetal is appropriate humidity and all nitrogen atmosphere in a dark place. (Unfortunately there are CO2 happy bacteria, otherwise that would be even easier. But if you can't get N2, some baking soda and vinegar will make plenty of CO2.)
It's easier than you think.
A small Dewar nitrogen (or even liquid nitrogen that you can boil of) is not terribly expensive. Check welding supply places. And for the appropriate volumes, Boveda packets are entirely functional. But an old coffee can 1/4 full of water will be fine too.
Get one of those plastic storage bins. Put everything in there. Saran wrap the top. Sneak in your gas. The plastic should bulge up as the air-air gets displaced out through the gaps around your hose. This isn't some lab experiment. Just put in a little effort to trying to displace .most of the air with N2.
If you do want to get fancy, tap the bin and install two of those bullshit plastic compression fitting for like aquarium and ice maker plumbing. Put tour N2 on the top (it's lighter) and vent the air out the bottom. The plastic wrap bulging when you adjust the bottom escape valve will tell you you're doing it right. Anyway, seal it up and you're done.
Can redo the gas every several months or a year if you're very worried.
N2 storage is how you can get tomatoes and oranges and apples and bananas year round. Whole warehouses where you'll suffocate without wearing a mask while you drive your forklift.
>But if you can't get N2, some baking soda and vinegar will make plenty of CO2
Is CO2 really much worse than N2?
>much worse
No. But a high CO2 environment will leave anaerobic bacteria happily munching away. Is that so bad for tobacco? Ehh, not reeeally. It's ultimate what "ageing" is.
An N2 environment throws off the carbon:nitrogen ratio and slows them down even more. If you're gonna go through the trouble, why not go all the way?
Gaseous nitrogen is both cheap and handy for DIY like pressure testing HVAC systems. I buy used cylinders since they're normally filled by exchange making it senseless to buy new ones.
Tobacco can be bought sealed as chewing tobacco and stay fresh a long time. Dip is good trade bait too.
>Tobacco can be bought sealed as chewing tobacco and stay fresh a long time
I never heard of chewing tobbaco anywhere but on the internet by americans. Here in southeastern europe, everyone smokes cigarettes and nothing else(thugs smoke cigars, turks shisha and hipsters from a pipe).
hasn't MRE Steve smoked a bunch of cigs from WW2 rations and they were still good
It's 100% about keeping the tobacco in proper humidity. People are still smoking cuban cigars from before Castro bc they have been kept in high quality humidors.
Also as it is possible to bring cigarettes back to proper humidity after they have been dried, and you are talking about a cigarettes-as-money situation, I wouldn't worry too much. Dried cigarettes that are brought back to proper humidity aren't perfect, but they will be more than acceptable. Most Americans outside the south (which is basically a humidor most of year) smoke moderately stale cigarettes. Except in the summer I need to put most cigarettes into my humidor for a bit before they are ready to smoke.
Humidor bag, can toss all your loosies in there homie
Buy a humidor.
The only people willing to trade for cigarettes en mass are going to be scumbags or destitute morons. But judging by your english you probably live among the dregs already.
You underestimate how many junkies are hidden among the normie population. 98% of people are into some kind of drug, even basic shit like alcohol.
If you can provide alcohol, cigs and/or spices, you're a god in the apocalypse.
Store them in 50 cal ammo cans.