Official stream now going live:
The future of humanity in space, and massive changes in what the US DOD can go for, (hopefully) begins in 45 minutes. Moon and Mars declaring independence and battles kicking off in T minus 20 years.
Starship launch
Official stream now going live:
The future of humanity in space, and massive changes in what the US DOD can go for, (hopefully) begins in 45 minutes. Moon and Mars declaring independence and battles kicking off in T minus 20 years.
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This could be the biggest non nuclear explosion in history
dubs and it fricking explodes. this project must never get off the ground (lol)
space belongs to the aryan
NSF stream if anyone wants a different view:
Everything in the Solar System belongs to America deal with it.
that masonic dishrag will never again be planted on the moon. and no murrican will ever set foot on mars. mark my words
You will never have real accomplishments, forever bound to impotently seethe at Americans.
>mark my words
Done. Though can you tell us what it's like to say such words and then have a 390 foot tall rebuke to you and your national relevance being live streamed to your face? I'm American, I wouldn't know.
low effort
>Everything in the Solar System belongs to America deal with it.
Well, maybe not the solar system, but parts of the Lunar surface one could make a really solid argument
>(11) Article eight of the Outer Space Treaty states, ``[a] State Party to the Treaty on whose registry an object launched into outer space is carried shall retain jurisdiction and control over such object, and over any personnel thereof,
>[i]f a State Party to the Treaty has reason to believe that an activity or experiment planned by it or its nationals in outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, would cause potentially harmful interference with activities of other States Parties in the peaceful exploration and use of outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, it shall undertake appropriate international consultations before proceeding with any such activity or experiment
This text comes from the "ONE SMALL STEP TO PROTECT HUMAN HERITAGE IN SPACE ACT". It essentially asserts existing provisions within the Outer Space Treaty to take custody of American Lunar bases. Under this pretext, its actually in theory possible to exercise soverignty over celestial objects, you just cannot militarize them. That means theoreticall, Americas Lunar bases are American territory. And now America has the legal means to defend said territory, at least from on Earth, since again, the Outer Space Treaty prohibits the militarization of space
Let's be honest anon: the OST is meaningless shit, done at a time when there was barely any space presence except brief sojourns exclusively by one country. For some reason people constantly bring it up, but the instant anyone has a permanent base/colony it's dead letter. Treaties are just words on paper if you can't back it up with anything, and there is zero chance of anyone sticking to "no militarization" once there is actually something to lose (or gain). Everyone can afford fancy words when nothing is at stake and it's economically/technologically impossible anyway.
Same with colonies eventually wanting independence. That's not a matter of applying for a UN license, that's a matter of whether they can back it up with enough power.
Well you're not wrong, I'm just saying as it stands right now, America basically owns several plots of land on the Lunar Surface. the Indian Space Agency actually extends the "appropriate international consultations before proceeding with any such activity or experiment" clause to include the entire Lunar surface, contacting NASA and basically asking them for permission first before conducting unmanned Lunar landings. Its kinda cute actually.
It's gonna be interesting when asteroid mining becomes a thing, because that's pretty much the same thing as being able to drop rocks from orbit anywhere on Earth.
>because that's pretty much the same thing as being able to drop rocks from orbit anywhere on Earth.
My guy, how do you think asteroid mining is going to work? They're not just going to wrange asteroids lmao
>because that's pretty much the same thing as being able to drop rocks from orbit anywhere on Earth.
Eh, it's more complex than that. Bringing material back from that far away will take a long, long time. And the trajectory will be super obvious by definition. Which means if it was acting funny or coming too close to an intercept they could be deflected same as any other asteroid. So in principle at least that could be regulated fairly effectively. Demand any mass being sent back to Earth have active transponder, specific control rockets, and follows specific trajectories in maybe going to processing facilities at a lagrange point or something vs direct to orbit. And then shoot anything that doesn't, followed by shooting whoever did it.
Moon bases are more of a risk in some ways, electromagnetic launch would be very viable there in a very protected way, and the travel time is relatively short. Though being so close also easier to keep an eye on.
Anyway yeah orbital bombardment isn't something to ignore, but for quite a while it won't be a critical threat. Stuff like R-bombs is far enough in the future that hopefully there will be more countermeasures in turn.
Space has been militarized for decades. The only question is how land claims are going to work. It will probably happen in the most moronic and least fair way possible, although I’m holding out hope for a Georgist resolution.
>The only question is how land claims are going to work.
The One Small Step Act basically already outlines how land claims in space work. And you're right it is done in a moronic roundabout way. All the Apollo bases are under American jurisdiction, and other nations who wish to conduct Lunar experiments near Apollo bases need to consult with an international committe, which America is obviously apart of, and America basically has the right to tell other countries to stay the frick away from Apollo landing sites. The problem is the OST means America cannot just outright say "we own parts of the moon" because that would make the international community seethe.
The next moon launch is going to be made on the Artmeis IIs SLS. Not this ugly aluminum can. Elon Musk is a modern day Howard Hughes, and Starship is his Spruce Goose
mmmmmmm baby
this picture is banned in China and yuropooria anon please don't post it
Pressurisation issue with the booster, may end up being a Wet Dress Rehearsal
pretty cool to see that second stage just lifted right up by the tower
>Pressurisation issue with the booster, may end up being a Wet Dress Rehearsal
yeah knew there was a chance of that. they are fine with rocket blowing up but only after it launches. they reallyreally REALLY want it to get like, 1000' up before blowing up. the rockets they are pumping out but ground infra was real expensive and time consuming
Scrub
>cancelled if some rando fricking boat goes in
FRICKING WHY WHO GIVES A FRICK IF ANY moron BOATS ON IN IF THEY DIE GOOD JESUS
scrubbed and saged. fugggg. no explosions today
Two more weeks. Trust the plan -E
This picture is before starship.
You're a coping chink or coping yuro (you're not even on the list lmao)
Not bumping, but apparently Wednesday at best. Unfortunately they're screwed a bit by actually getting so close and having a stuck valve. Technically they had a long window today, and also have sizable windows tomorrow and Wed. But they loaded so much prop onboard and got so close that it'll take 48 hours to cycle the rocket. So either wed or TBA.
See you next time spacecowboys.
Elon Musk works for China though