South Africa's MIC decline has been a disaster for weapon's R&D, so many interesting and unorthodox systems that used to come out of tha...

South Africa's MIC decline has been a disaster for weapon's R&D, so many interesting and unorthodox systems that used to come out of that country...

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like what? I only know about the Milkor, which to be fair is pretty fricking kino.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The rooivalk and the oliphant come to mind, only african country that can claim to have an indeginous design for both, which is pathetic when you start to consider that an entire continent with 1 billion people cant even setup basic small arms plants (except the one with a white minority total coincidencd)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Algeria builds training planes. It's a start

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that an entire continent with 1 billion people cant even setup basic small arms plants
        Algeria has a massive military industry

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol no it doesn't

          Algeria builds training planes. It's a start

          They assemble it not build

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking Sudan makes tanks and ammunition.
        Also Denel is still kicking around, making solid missiles.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The rooivalk and the oliphant come to mind, only african country that can claim to have an indeginous design for both, which is pathetic when you start to consider that an entire continent with 1 billion people cant even setup basic small arms plants (except the one with a white minority total coincidencd)

          Sudan has significant (Iran, DPRK) help, Ethiopia also makes alot of small arms.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rooikat and ratel are always mentioned.

      But the buffel, for it's time, is absolute genius. I fricking love the buffel. Sure when a mine went off it felt like you were launched in a catapult. But it worked.

      If they were in their old configuration in Ukraine you would instantly get a sick feeling in your stomach just looking at them there. But the casspir would be right at home.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Striker

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They all left to work for general dynamics and lockheed. GOD THE G6 THOUGH

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      KKND aesthetics

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's soo nice.

      It's so niccceeee..

      Fuuuuuck.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think so. They're good at coming up with ideas, but not necessarily good ideas. The neopup was a gimmick looking for a purpose, the striker was shit, all their domestic SMGs were shit, the NTW20 was an anachronism in the age of recoilless rifles, the neostead might have been good but the KSG seems to be the same idea made more intuitive; and the R4/5 is just a Galil, which is fine but not a domestic design. The SS77 was cutting edge for being a lightweight 7.62 MG, but nobody cared at the time and now that people do; that gap in the market has long been filled by western equivalents. The MGL was good, and saw extensive export success.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the sadder thing is all that Galil and SS77 tooling just sitting there going to waste.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Their biggest successes are in arty and AA
      And pic rel. I wonder how hard it would be to have a FAL converted like this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was an artefact of the time. South Africa had whites in an unusual scenario in the 1960s-1990s who invented to match the situation. Then the whites dwindled, the tech did too, and innovation stopped. Their ideas were legitimately novel in the 1980s but they haven't had any more of them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And not only has their tech dwindled, SA literally doesn't even have reliable electricity any more. They have blackouts on an almost daily basis because of their black socialist government's terrible handling of basic utilities.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The MRAP designs were also bought in huge numbers at the start of GWOT before we got our own designs out the door.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish NTWs and vektor cr 21 rifles and paw-20s and their galil clones were available in the US. Blacks are ruining the MiC

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hmm I wonder why this happened? Can anyone explain what changed in South Africa??

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whites stole the land from the san 500 years ago that's it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And then the Bantus arrived have been taking a steaming shit over it ever since.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >And then the Bantus arrived have been taking a steaming shit over it ever since.

          >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6002040/

          Bantu were there before you too lol

          oldest archaeological evidence by distance to the South African border thus far related to South African Bantu–speaking peoples and dated 354–68 BCE. Ancient settlements remains found thus far similarly based on pastoralism and farming within South Africa were dated 249–370 C

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't the Bantu the literal indigenous in the region, with the Zulu being a colonial power alongside the boer and British? Or is that (yet another) group?

            Only now if the world interconnected enough to comprehend the complexity of South Africa.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Zulu are a type of Bantu.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What has happened to SA? When I was little they used to be considered a borderline 1st world country. Now they've regressed to the point if I was forced to live in Sub-Saharan Africa I probably wouldn't pick to live in South Africa.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hmm I wonder why this happened? Can anyone explain what changed in South Africa??

      Black people are incapable of running a country without proper guidance

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Zuma's predecessor was actually somewhat competent, it was under Zuma that the graft and rape as a cure for AIDS started

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can't base your entire economy on mines that oligarchs can snaffle the wealth of offshore. You can't be a minor commonwealth power fighting the Soviet Union and isolate yourself politically from everyone who should be your friend.
      You can't sire two generations hence and condition them to take personal responsibility for what no individual can possibly take responsibility for.

      But I do love the Afrikaner gen X and millennials. Such a brilliant brilliant scarred and damaged people. Like light through shattered crystal. A pleasure to have so many here in Australia

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What has happened to SA?
      planet of the apes

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don’t forget about dis poes

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean the rest of the world took it and ran, so it's not the end of the world.

    But you know, I think if those attack helos could be dronafied, and SA worked with Australia with unmanned tech, naval, air and land..... Well, it wouldn't take tooooo much for some clever shit to come back. Could maybe even keep the nation state alive, you know?
    And you know who else would be a reeeeaaaaly big customer now, that they aren't relying so much on Russia?
    They're also part of the Commonwealth, have a massive diaspora in SA, and want that SEA corridor open as much as Australia does.

    Maybe there's some old lessons SA can teach these other Commonwealth countries about not being on a leash when it doesn't work any more. Even if those lessons were what not to do.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ahem

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