I've recently bought a Surround sound audio system for my apartment. I'd like to not bother my downstairs neighbor too much while watching my kino and playing vidya, so I've been looking into ways to soundproof my apartment.
Are acoustic sound panels + some thick carpets the way to go? Getting some thick carpets is already on my list, but I'm wondering if the sound panels are a waste of money unless I can line the entire room wall with them instead of just putting it up here and there.
foam removes echoes, it does not dampen sounds.
you will need to install green SONO behind drywall, and or lay down heavy vinyl on the floor over foam.
>foam removes sound
>it does not dampen sounds
What do you think echoes are?
Reverberation, which is another phenomena, genius
>watching my kino and playing vidya
Can you zoomers talk normal for once?
you need to make your room airtight first bozo
Reminds me when i used to be a rentoid and i watched a movie on my laptop one time and the downstairs neighbor complained to the landlord about my unbearably loud "subwoofwer"
>the downstairs neighbor complained
You have to live downstairs once in your life to realize how much it sucks even in a decent apartment. I suppose some expensive structures block the sound, but where I've been you'd think the guys upstairs were dropping Olympic barbells on the floor when it was just their bookbag. And then there was the girl doing aerobics. No way will I ever live beneath anyone again.
As for OP, it's nice that he wants to make an effort, but the only way to avoid driving the neighbors crazy is to wear headphones.
the frick are you talking about? living on the ground floor is the best option (unless its a highrise)
i spent 8 years living on the ground floor of a 3 story building. I could be as loud as I want, I can have 20 people over stomping on the floor, and no one is going to compalin.
my upstairs neighbor were loud as frick, they would wrestle each other, and gallop around.
they complained once about my music being loud, I invited one of the guys downstairs while his better half walked around. he quickly realized that I can hear everything. all complaints stopped, we both understood. he can be as loud as he wants, i will never complaine, and I can be as loud as I want, and they wont compalin.
after that i spent 1 year liviing on the 2nd floor with some c**t below me who would bang on the ceiling when I was playing ANY music, or watching movies. little b***h called the cops, and my landlord. last place i rented, now i live in the boonies, quarter mile to the closest neighboor. ive had my friend band out here with a dozen cars parked on the lawn, no one here to complain.
tldr, ground floor is the best.
I had this racist old black lady call the cops on me several times when I lived above her. I got the police report the first time and she was accusing me of flushing the toilet. I fricking hate that b***h so much for ruining a good setup and contributing to a break up.
Back the blue
i never knew there were so many ways to misspell "complain". diy has taught me so much
my favorite was "compalin"
You sound legit moronic.
>hey having people above you sucks because you can hear a mouse fart above you
>what the frick are you talking about ground floor is best because you can hear a mouse fart above you
>compalin
>complain
>compellin
>coachella
What if someone doesn't want to go in your appartement to hear the sound?
I had a guy that I'm not ever sure what the hell he was doing, probably some exercise, but it would sound like a person falling down.
The first time I head it almost went upstairs to ask if he was okay.
Unless you build a mostly sealed room within a room, you won't succeed. Soundproofing has to be done during construction. There only needs to be a tiny bit of sound leakage to frick it up. You can put at much insulation in or on the walls as you like, the vibrations will just carry through the structure of the building.
>There only needs to be a tiny bit of sound leakage to frick it up. You can put at much insulation in or on the walls as you like
This reminds me of my first downstairs neighbour. We moved in, setup the speakers but had them on the fireplace first while everything else was being done, we played one game at around 45db and the moron hit his ceiling so loud when he banged it that he put a hole in it. His landlord refused to repair it until he moved out (like his broken window).
My next door neighbour on the other hand would play music at the 80-100db range and I could hear it and identify songs through plaster, insulation, brick, insulation, plaster etc. He died, my new neighbour has returned home at 2:15am at and has for the last 32~ minutes started having a party that I can faintly hear.
As for the tard: He eventually moved back to the czech republic but he had to put up with not only me walking around at night but also with the traffic & drunks passing by his window. His landlord is incredibly tolerant of me, mentions to new tenants that I'm disabled, nocturnal etc and warns them before hand, works out.
For leakage? Even my windows make the street sound 5 times louder when I just open the air vents at the top. It's easier to casually run a dehumidifier and vent rooms than it is to passively hear constant noise.
> the vibrations will just carry through the structure of the building.
For my speakers? I use carpeting and other than that, foam underneath the shelf they're on etc, then foam underneath the speakers and make sure that they're not close to a wall, touching a wall or touching something that's also touching a wall etc. It's controlled but it works. I can listen to stuff at a nice 50 or 60db without my neighbours downstairs hearing a thing. It's only when I get up to piss 45 times a night that they can hear me.
Like the other anon says, room within a room (double drywall, isolation clips and mounting, green glue and/or mass loaded vinyl). Even then it's not perfect. It is definitely not something a rentoid can hope to accomplish, and even for a serious home theater dweeb it would be probably the largest cost of construction and design to do a thorough soundproofing and probably even then be more costly than even most of the electronics.
Thanks for the heads up - So basically any insiluation via sound panels or carpets are just piss in the wind and used to trick suckers?
Sound panels are good for your microphone if you have a big room with not much in it.
Imagine soundproofing is like having a large floodlight shone directly in your eyes. If you only cover 95% of the surface of that floodlight, blocking out all light from that 95%, you're still going to get blinded by it (this 5% is usually the sound that travels via vibrations in the building's structure that you won't be able to get rid of).
Also, completely silent rooms do funny things to your hearing.
>the sound that travels via vibrations in the building's structure that you won't be able to get rid of
I once heard something heavy fall OUTSIDE and felt the floor vibrate This is the 7th floor we are talking about. What the frick causes this?
Physics. Noise from the street is louder on your floor than on eg floor 2.
>Physics. Noise from the street is louder on your floor than on eg floor 2.
in the running for worthless post of the year
Echos are generally le bad for sound quality, sound panels and bass traps are good for sound quality. Sound quality for you and quality of life for your neighbor are two completely different things.
Soundproofing to the level I think you're expecting to achieve would involve altering each wall, floor and ceiling in the room. Look in to the 'room within a room' method. Thick carpets and bits of foam may dampen a bit but won't significantly reduce anything louder than an outdoor speaking voice. If your surround sound has a subwoofer your downstairs neighbours apartment is your new bass box. Just sell it and use a sound bar until you can afford a house.
Yeah - get some fricking headphones
put 12" padding on the walls and floors and ceiling.
Where the frick are you from? If I was gonna stay for more than a month in this stupid apartment (9 years too many I've lived here) I'd probably do double drywall with mineral wool behind it all mounted on dampened mounts. The walls between the apartments are pic rel, ABSOLUTE SHIT. It's against code to have sound insulation this bad but who gives a shit we already built it oh no we can't do anything now! Frick ~~*investors*~~ in the ass, frick their mothers and fathers and sisters as well, frick their whole family.
>downstairs
Yeah nah you're fricked can't do shit besides total renovation. Once upon a time they would put 5cm of mineral wool board on the floors in commieblocks here, then pour the cement on and glue the parquet to that. If you got that and stiffening walls on each side of the apartment the weakest link would be the fricking windows. Modern construction is a joke.
thick carpet is more useful for your listening environment than for neighbors. a thick undermat is what really absorbs vibration
Room in room or frick off.
I want to use this thread for the opposite question. I want to prevent outside noise (screaming schizo neighbors) from coming in to my house. My bedroom used to not have any windows so I didn't hear a thing before, but now that I dug a window through the wall I keep hearing them so now I regret it. Is there any way (I don't care about aesthetics) to completely silence their noise? I am even considering to shut the window back to be a wall. Right now I use earplugs but I unconsciously take them out during the night and get woken up by the idiots as early as 6 AM or as late as midnight.
put bass traps in the corners and hang panels in areas of first reflection
drywall
lots of drywall.
OP, these Anons are being autistic and uppity. You CAN reduce the sound that travels in/out of a space, reduce echo, tenor, etc. without perfectly "sound proofing" the room. The autists are uppity because you didn't say "sound dampending" or "deadening" as opposed to "proofing"
>place furniture like couches in room, panelling on walls is good, (assuming you're renting and can't go doing major projects) use thick rugs, tapestries on walls, as well as cloth coverings on hard furniture like wood. Place foam blocks over the corners of the room if you're very into it. There's lots of ways to maximize what you got. Try to isolate the main mode of travel for the soundwaves, be it vents, doors, windows, so on.
>fell for the condo meme
>first floor
>left neighbor is a schizo that clogs his drains, lights shit on fire, punches his walls, and floods his bathroom into my unit
>right neighbor is a felon with no job, plays drums and screams at her husband and son
>upstairs neighbor has a very young kid that stomps around, the dad's phone vibrates through their hardwood floor every night, every fifteen minutes or so
I literally cannot sleep without earplugs, even when I'm not home. I've been ruined by this experience.
that will be a 30 year mortgage + my cut 🙂
wish you a pleasant day, from Grand Alpha Real Estate Agency (GAREA)!
Condo is like the worst parts of homeownership and rentcucking combined
Ill never understand why its so popular
it's cheap
and (should) enable shorter commute (in sane cities nearest to the downtown are tall apartments/condos/blocks of flats and detached houses are farther away)
r u 'tarded, this should be obvious
It's not cheaper than renting but it comes with all the downsides of renting
It is cheaper than renting.
Na
Mayyybe if you buy it outright without a mortgage and live there for 25 years it is
If youre lucky
It is cheaper than renting.
t. condo owner with mortgage.
Every apartment in the next two cities is at least $400+ to live in than what I pay now.
hopefully your ~~*fees*~~ dont go up
They do, naturally, every year or two due to insurance hikes, but even landlords add those dues onto rentoid's bills. Still cheaper than renting.
Not where i live
Rent is controlled
Non-American, I assume?
Yes
Main thing that helps are dense materials like concrete.
Another thing that helps is preventing that the vibrations get to walls/floor. Something like a rubber mat might lower the noise that makes it to the neighbours.
Here in germany we have band practice rooms in old bunkers in cities