Solving the issues of the military

How do you prevent corruption, nepotism and careerism in the military? Or at least reduce it by a lot.

Oh and... what about frustration? You know, your NCOs...

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Forgot to add "officers and NCOs full of themselves"...

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is trying to do this right now, but Ukraine is resisting. It's quite admirable, actually.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You would need objective metric criteria for promotions, and also checks on the people who are deciding what the promotion metrics should be to make sure they're also being objective.

      Is this a bot?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Is this a bot?
        Mate, you asked about systematic military corruption and get surprised I bring up Ukraine? You're delusional.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What would you do? Such as?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >is this a bot?
        The scary truth is, many humans are bots.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make soldiery a respected career. Take care of your guys medically, dont fuck their knees and backs up. Raise pay. Give them a reason to give a fuck, so they don't sell their kit on Ebay or give away your frontline positions for $5000 in crypto.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How would you do it?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >stop trying to recruit new retards and take care of the ones already in
    >maybe pay them a respected wage
    >unfuck the VA
    >put some actual effort into the mental wellbeing of your grunts
    >stop fighting MIC wars
    >cut the admin positions by 80%
    >women bad
    >Infantry units should be on par with the current Rangers at minimum
    >WOMEN BAD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Examples?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cut the admin positions by 80%

      Full retard move.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >cut admin by 80%
      Yeah because tooth to tail ratio doesn't matter at all as Russia has discovered over the last six months

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Infantry units should be on par with the current Rangers

      The Army has been saying this for the past 30 years but that shit completely died after 911 and the proceeding MIC blotat as the result of it. In order for that to happen you would have to considerably cut down on embezzlement and the bloat/size of the Army which is never going to fucking happen as the US military inches closer to a squander soldier Orc-tier horde Army like Russia and China.

      Let's not forget that both Rangers and SF have been hemorrhaging soldiers for at least the past 5 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just not going to happen due to something this board never admits - rangers are superior human capital. The army doesn't make rangers, it takes rangers that need a little bit of work, weeds out anyone and runs them through a bunch of trials that shape them up if they don't break them.

        There are not enough varsity athletes with IQ over 90 for "every unit to be like the rangers". Also, at the end of the day, you need someone to sit at the FOB and man the M2/MK19.

        I do agree with

        Make soldiery a respected career. Take care of your guys medically, dont fuck their knees and backs up. Raise pay. Give them a reason to give a fuck, so they don't sell their kit on Ebay or give away your frontline positions for $5000 in crypto.

        , specifically:

        >take care of your guys medically, dont fuck their knees and backs up

        You could drag most soldiers up to effectively run, carry their gear, and execute tasks (whatever you guys in the military call them). That does require shit like what the PJs have where there are actual therapists correcting imbalances and all that jazz like good food.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bad knees and backs are inevitable these days with all the bullshit soldiers are forced to carry. Not like in Panama where the soldiers were fitter more motivated and carried half the weight we do now. Their ground maneuvers back then make us look like geriatric fucks in comparison

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is a lot that can be done to prevent it. Basically, any muscle / flexibility imbalance guarantees injury. Any improperly seated bag guarantees injury. Any improper movement patterns (knees in when squatting / landing, lifting with back guarantees injury). In turn, strong muscles and flexibility take load off of, and cushion joints. Finally, joints do build up to some degree under GRADUAL overload. Bones definitely do and quickly. Same with ligaments. I do understand that most injuries are cartilage/spinal disks, but it's just not true that they aren't avoidable. You are, of course, right that weight is a major contributing factor that doesn't help.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How do you prevent corruption, nepotism and careerism in the military?

    Well first and foremost you need to define these issues. What is corruption to you? Is the CO who takes his command team out to lunch on the Army's dime siphoning money or is he just rewarding his team?

    Is the General Officer who writes letters of recommendation for his sons or nephews really being a nepotist or just doing what literally anyone else would do?

    Can you really blame for people looking out for there careers in the long term? What do you define as careerism? Making decisions that check the box of getting promoted, or actually making decisions detrimental to your unit in the long haul in favor of looking good for tge short term?

    You essentially asked "how we do stop crime", without defining what crime is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The first example you made would be more like fraternization.

      Nepotism is the enemy of meritocracy. This is true especially for officers, because their promotions are sometimes highly political.

      Careerism isn't looking out for your career. It's fucking others up and being a total shitbag to get to the top.

      >You essentially asked "how we do stop crime", without defining what crime is.

      These are really understood problems.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT, anon just found out about human nature.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keep the benefits they have currently.
    Impose an 8 year limit for enlisted personnel.
    Make the more senior "enlisted" ranks require a commission.
    Make the requirements for commissioning more restrictive.
    No branch or component can skip the entry level training for another (i.e. changing branches, being commissioned from enlisted, etc.).

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >corruption
    no idea. i think the US military is pretty good about this compared to a lot of other militaries, but im too low on the totem pole to know solutions to what exists.
    >nepotism
    officers could no longer legally retain their influence after retirement. Though, like children of athletes, children of generals will typically make good generals as well because they have grown up around strategy, history and that type of shit. definitely not a big issue in us military I think.
    >careerism
    get rid of the retarded promtion point system.
    >change scripts on Skillport for hours to get 80 promotion points without taking the classes
    >unit tasks people they like to go to classes to get points
    >unit gives people they like awards that give them points
    >army wont let e4s take a fuckin PT test to improve their score for 3 years.
    >unit gets unlucky and attends a shitty range with targets already shot to shit. everyone shoots 23-30/40, dropping them at least 30 or more points.
    >emphasis on college credits for promotion allows college grads a leg up by automatically giving them 135 points. those without college degrees are forced to give up the little free time they have to take online or weekend college classes.
    This is the biggest thing I have found that encourages careerism... there is no real incentive to be "good at your job" because getting promoted (outside of MAYBE infantry) has nothing to do with how good you are at your job.
    >frustration
    a lot of people in the army are fucking retarded. there is literally no incentive for someone who is intelligent with life prospects to join the military. When the army does get people like that, they get beaten down by a system that is designed for the lowest common denominator. Leaders in the army are typically people who have stayed in because they are too stupid to get out, or some dumbass college kid who has a lot of theories but no practical experience.

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