So this is what Ukraine's long range drone is supposed to look like?

So this is what Ukraine's long range drone is supposed to look like?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll wait for the virgin prop engine vs the Chad turbo jet engine meme

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Seems to be pretty good at hurting Russian hydrocarbon infrastructure.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They just hit another factory or facility of some sort didn't they?
      But for some reason threads mentioning it are being deleted.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there is at least one janny with the 'tism
        it should be framed as
        >vgh, what WEAPON can PENETRATE undetected though >1000KM of Russian airspace and do THIS?
        and then something-something-tactical advantage

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The janny is right, OPs should have a bit more effort out into it. Just indeed put WEAPON into the OP instead of low effort OPs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there is at least one janny with the 'tism
        it should be framed as
        >vgh, what WEAPON can PENETRATE undetected though >1000KM of Russian airspace and do THIS?
        and then something-something-tactical advantage

        https://english.nv.ua/nation/explosion-at-russian-missile-factory-video-50390873.html

        Vid rel, someone is seething over the likely result of this thread's WEAPON being used to strike a ballistic missile (WEAPON) facility. Expect the increased piggie*~~*~~)) posting.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cumrat, I already told you in another thread that was rightfully deleted because it it off-topic to talk about weapons on a weapons board - it is a planned, regular utilisation of old missile stocks, happens every day, nothing to see here, move along.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Vid rel, someone is seething over the likely result of this thread's WEAPON being used to strike a ballistic missile (WEAPON) facility. Expect the increased piggie*~~*~~)) posting.
          This is the kind of strategic bombing that's been missing from this war.
          It's really unforgivable that tanks are being reconditioned in factories and those factories don't get bombed as fast as they're repaired.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I really want to know what struck it since it's 1300km from the Ukrainian border.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Unfortunately it is likely either partisan sabotage work or SBU operating behind enemy lines as they occasionally do

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                90% it's a Chernobyl type of failure during the testing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why were they testing a missile launch at 10:00PM?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. And that .webm of the explosion doesn't look like a test at all to me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Chernobyl type of failure
                Plausible.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Later, Russian emergency services explained the explosion as "rocket engines being tested as planned" at the facility.
          NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >IVAN YOU MORON I TOLD YOU TO TEST THE ROCKET'S ENGINE NOT THE WARHE-ACK!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The manufacturing plant for Topol-Ms and Iskanders was destroyed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you kidding?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nope. Place also produced their newest ICBMs.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My boner is out of control anon

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you kidding?

          And for extra insult to injure, the plant is sandwhiched by residential areas, and some of the missiles they produced use hydrazine and red fuming nitric acid in their fuel mixes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm going to hold off on calling the factory destroyed before we get proper fotos of the aftermath, but I'm sure it will not be pretty

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not factory, sadly. Testing grounds. It really could be an engine test

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >source russian news
            suure

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Source Google maps

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What distinguishes a long range jet powered attack drone from a cruise missile?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not much. The main difference is that since you don't need it to be air launched or launched from a VLS cell or similar you can make it as cumbersome as you want which indirectly means it will probably be far more conducive to flying long ranges.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this jet engine costs 10k euro

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lawnmower drone costs more so this drone cost roughly 1.5 million be experats are said

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          learn to speak first, animal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you call 500km range thing a it drone it is no more a subject to the late INF treaty

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think a cruise missile is fire and forget and goes straight for a preset target, while a drone has remote control and loiter capability.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This question was asked instantly the moment the term "suicide drone" was coined. The answer remains the same. There isn't a difference, it's a just a matter of the speaker choosing to emphasize different aspects of a design or role.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's journos/laymen who have no idea about weaponry who then start writing about weapons using terminology they know, they know what a drone is but to them a cruise missile is some mystery device you hear about on the news

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Drone implies a datalink or AI that allow for active control of the vehicle during flight, the ability to select targets after launch by the remote operator or AI and these control allows for actions not common to cruise missiles like some loitering capabilities.

      If your long range drone has no cameras, ability to select targets after launch, no 2ways data link and can only target a preselected target, non reusable than it's not a drone nor a suicide drone but a cruise missile.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so tlam since block 4 is a drone for you?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Could count as one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At this point it's just the form factor.
      Not having to jam your long range attack thingy into a tube makes it much easier and cheaper.
      The downside is that it's cumbersome to handle and not as quick and convenient to fire.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I will initiate a 24-hour goon session if we get footage of these demolishing Lenin's mausoleum. 48-hours if that rotting homosexual is confirmed destroyed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >demolishing Lenin's mausoleum
      I'd be in favour of establishing a national statutory holiday to celebrate when that happens.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lenin literally created ukraine though

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sure thing, buddy bot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kys, vatBlack person.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kyiv invented Rus' and Mongols ruined it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But Putin said evil westoids created Ukraine to make Russia weak, he had ancient maps to prove it and everything.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cool story, mongol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >demolishing Lenin's mausoleum
      I'd be in favour of establishing a national statutory holiday to celebrate when that happens.

      Come on, best absolute thing is to build a McDonalds over it. Using his glass coffin as a table.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah. It's gotta be Pizza Hut.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok. I conceed. With a giant painting of your pic of course.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Red square gets drowned in formaldehyde fumes when lenin's wither husk lights up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The israelites love Lenin so they’ll prevent damage to it at all costs. They planned on moving it to New Kazahria until they underestimated Russia.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Commies get the rope
        >preferably a rope tied to one of these jet powered strike-drones

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Images of drone wreckage in question

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Supposedly the warhead
        https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1755142385338655230

        fourth image I'm not going to post but it's the turbine that's supposed a JetCat P400-PRO made in Germany

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >fourth image I'm not going to post but it's the turbine that's supposed a JetCat P400-PRO made in Germany
          why? don't be goofy, posting it on /k/ has no influence in the grand scheme of ziggerscreaming about german aid

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I just don't think it's as interesting as the other images is all. There's nothing else to it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/hzl5OGt.jpg

              Supposedly the warhead
              https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1755142385338655230

              fourth image I'm not going to post but it's the turbine that's supposed a JetCat P400-PRO made in Germany

              This "the 4th image just isn't interesting" makes instantly think this is some sort of psyop.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but you can click through to twitter and see for yourself. It's really not all that interesting. Maybe if you know a lot about jet engines you could glean something from it, but it just looks like a dented metal housing to me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then go look at it, its just a cylinder with the logo name.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            This "the 4th image just isn't interesting" makes instantly think this is some sort of psyop.

            NTA, but here's the 4th image. The dude literally gave us a link, you lazy fricks

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i work on drones used by ukraine. i replied in case OP thought the optics of the german-origin engine actually matters. other comment you replied to is just obvious FUD/bait that you took.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              could it be repaired? will the JetCat fly again?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Where's the inlet for the jet turbine?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's probably on the underside like on a Tomahawk

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/0Tf4vaw.jpg

          [...]
          NTA, but here's the 4th image. The dude literally gave us a link, you lazy fricks

          >engine made in Germany
          nice
          hope we'll eventually send some Taurus too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What does the glove do, does the drone have hands

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What does the glove do
          It comes off.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine when we start seeing (or rather not) stealth drones.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine was basically the brains of the Soviet Union, wasn't it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every piece of military equipment Russians use today was made in Kharkiv

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every piece of military equipment Russians use today was made in Kharkiv

      The lead engineer of the diesel tank engine design they've used for half a century was a Greek Ukrainian from Kharkiv.
      He was later killed when Stalin got suspicious of the Greeks, checked the time and found that it was pogrom o'clock. After the NKVD grabbed him and gave him their usual treatment he confessed to a variety of treasonous capital crimes, for which he was shot. His wife was told he had a heart attack.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda reminds me of a Delta Dart

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Serious question - why not store additional fuel in the wings?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably part of the transportability/knock down part of the design. They'd have to plumb in the wings to the main tank or deal with switching in flight.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The issue with transportation could be fixed with a sealed pipe connection for the wings.
        But I can't decide about the survivability issue, since it will be easier to hit bigger wings than small body. But with fuel placed in wings drone size could be reduced so it will be harder to target it

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting choice to have a rudder-less vertical stabilizer instead of the winglets like on Shahed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You only need the rudder for taxiing, so why complicate it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Of course, having a pure bank and yank setup for a shitty kamikaze drone works just fine. What I mean by that is the winglets would help reduce wingtip vortices as well as provide yaw stability, whereas the vertical stabilizer only does the latter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Winglets do the same as increasing a wing's aspect ratio without having to increase wingspan. This is extremely beneficial in heavier aircraft as more wingspan means more weight, which means wings have to be stiffer, which means more weight from the reinforcement.
          In a relatively small drone, you can always just add a little more wing and get the same benefits of a winglet.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    War crime!

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This may be a stupid question but why don't they just copy Have Blue? We know it works well, even against modern Russian radar, and there are a number of cad models of varying accuracy floating around. Surely Ukraine could just copy one of those for their missiles and cover them in vantablack paint. Am I missing something here?

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