So after all that buildup it’s just over now? Shit has been real quiet the last week
I was promised a 2nd Grozny/Kiev/Iwo Jima but ended up getting a 2nd Baghdad 03
So after all that buildup its just over now? Shit has been real quiet the last week
So after all that buildup it’s just over now? Shit has been real quiet the last week
I was promised a 2nd Grozny/Kiev/Iwo Jima but ended up getting a 2nd Baghdad 03
What was even Hamas' plan?
Allah will provide, or something. Yes, a lot of them really do think like this.
They wanted Lebanon, Egypt, and Iran to jump in the dogpile. Sadly for them, even Arabs know when not to pick a fight.
Their plan was to kick the hornets nest and then trust the world's most militarily incompetent, lazy and least trustworthy nations would come running to their aid?
I mean, their paramiltaries on gliders were able to drop in and rape/rob with impunity for like 3 full days. If they had more momentum behind them they could have forced some embarassing peace terms on Bibi. His government is weak, rife with scandals, and liberal Israelis want to be done with the Pali conflict. Anti-zionist israelites are still opposing the war today despite everything.
The paragliders were only a thing for the first day. After the first day it was just mopping up.
The reality is almost every time Hamas encountered armed resistance they got rolled. Something like 20 of the kibbutzes self defense forces were able to resist them, usually a squad level element throwing back platoon or company level hamas forces.
Letting any of that bullshit happen in the first place is an intelligence failure that would get a US president impeached by the house and senate. Imagine San Diego getting burnt down by CJNG morons in pickup trucks.
I don't foresee a future for Bibi after Gaza is finished. Probably why he's dragging it out so long. Hoping for a miracle.
"Element"
Stfu, "division"-Black person.
>Verification not required
>force peace terms
Lmao they never got anywhere near that point, it was glorified spree shootings/mass shootings and they still took heavy losses (1,500 killed/200 captured)
Of course. I'm not gassing them up, I'm saying that if another multi-nation gangbang on Israel happened, this would have been the right moment to frick with a weak Israeli government. It's just that Arabs don't really get the whole "forethought and planning" thing.
Israel has traded 1 hostage for 1000 prisoners in the past so hamas plan was to do a chimpout, throw rockets, get shekels from donors and expecting israel to do nothing except another bombing campaign.
They did not expected a draft based army to get in and with such efficiency in all honestly even israel probably expected 15x more casualities by now due to previous conflict in lebanon being an example of urban combat.
ooga booga attack israel
Become martyrs and the israelites obliged them
>Martyr
So why are they crying about it? The israelites are helping them to meet this goal (in a very efficient manner, no less) so they should be thanking the israelites.
You want to be a martyr? it's on me
Thanks for the offer, but I am not a mudslime, so martyrdom doesn't apply to me.
That said, you are welcome to find me at my workplace: 41°05'06.3"N 80°23'58.9"E
They wanted other Arab nations to help and attack Israel. Not even Hezbollah went all the way kek. No one likes Palies
I think the plan was to cause such a ruckus that the Arab countries would stop plans to normalise relations with Israel.
However, since the only thing Palestine offers the wider Arab world is instability and violence, they decided that they're just going to bury the hatchet with Israel anyway, regardless of how the conflict ends.
huge arab united against da israelite but turns even arabs thinks that poolestinians are like nigs and they left them to die
Merited. The palirats are historically worthless troublemakers for their hosts.
They almost certainly didn't expect it to be as successful as it was. They probably figured most of their guys would make contact at the border, exchange some fire, maybe 50 dead tops of they got a few groups in.
They're also nihilistic. Half the guys are crime lord types who want the higher ups bumped off so they can get the drugs/women/impunity, the others are true believer fanatics who are completely disconnected from reality and think Allah will crush their enemies. They attacked because that's what they do. They were unpopular in the Strip. A Pew poll had 73% of Gazans wanting Hamas completely dissolved. They had to break up protests and disappear/torture people. They weren't beholden to the people; the people are fed with gibs or jobs in Israel. Hamas just siphons of aid for itself and runs smuggling for drugs and prosties, e-girls, and shit. Iran gives them the weapons and no one else has weapons since the couped the PA and murdered them all after getting like 45.8% of the vote versus 44.2% for the PA (that was their big "win"). So they attack because what the frick else do they do?
They don't stand for anything, just against. It's a nihilistic movement, not even super religious like ISIS, more a religion /cartel hybrid.
Wait, so you're telling me you could get Palestinian e-girls in Gaza, Satan?
Anon, have you ever been to a third world country?
You can get any fricking thing you want if you have a few dollars to spare and don't mind the risk of getting murdered.
Also, consider the leaders live in luxury condos in Qatar and don't even have to deal with the problems of governance. They do blow and frick e-girls and boys. But they know the boys on the ground need something to "work towards." It's a business. Some of them might even have a billion in assets.
They were safe the whole time and other senior leaders seemed to have noped the frick out as soon as it was clear they had gone too far. Hence the shitty defense. You have 40,000 fighters in a dense urban area with 20 years of defenses built and manage to inflict like 140 KIA before being utterly routed? Even with the IDF advantages, this is a shit showing, and it's because it was disorganized and degraded into a rout.
9/10 the leaders take the exile for hostages deal after some more waiting. It's the end of Hamas though, but they might convince some more kids to do some suicide bombings to stay relevant. Or just do more captagon and frick boys in their high rises lol.
I don't think Qatar is going to continue to host them when they're no longer the lords of the manor in Gaza.
Probably the Qataris will suddenly "discover" some extradition treaty, and be allowed to keep the money they seize from them.
Arabs generally suck at fighting but they're very, very good at intrigue, conniving and conspiracy.
it really is TBD what qatar will do. they're good at playing the sympathetic ear to both sides, but witness yesterday's news about convincing hamas to get medicine to the hostages came about possibly because there's increasing scrutiny over just exactly how much foreknowledge qatar had of oct 7.
>... keep the money they seize from them.
>Arabs generally suck at fighting but they're very, very good at intrigue, conniving and conspiracy.
It's as if all the accusations they threw at israelites are some form of projections or something.
I wonder if, now that the strip has been mostly pacified, Mossad will go after the Qatari based Hamas leadership and start doing what Mossad is most known for.
The Qatari-based Hamas leadership has already fled from Qatar.
I really do hate the era of secular-naturalist nonsense we live in. Permeates everything, and what a sad belief system it is.
I hate Muslims too btw.
Crashing Gaza, with no survivors.
Depending on who you ask, they were either launching a suicide attack to draw attention to Israel's treatment of Palestinians or were trying to distract the West from Ukraine on behalf of Russia and its allies. If the former, then they have been technically successful, lots of condemnation and opinions of Israel are lower than they've ever been before, but actual consequences continue to elude Israel. If the latter, then, besides the Houthis, not too much success.
>trying to distract the West from Ukraine
Not everything is about Russia and Ukraine. This isn't Cold War great power politics. Qatar has a bigger hand in Palestinian affairs than Russia does.
You're probably right, but it was a take that at least used to be popular, hence why I brought it up.
What does qatar even want they are such a tiny country but they are involved all over middle east
Israel would provoke the entire Arab world into launching a jihad against it and the West. You know, typical fundie stuff.
It was an Israeli false flag
>Hamas dindu nuffin
no one can possibly be that unaware of consequences so it's more plausible the israelis did it to make hamas look evil and stupid
Learn to type properly, ackmed.
no putting effort into PrepHole posts is antithetical to its purpose there is no one here who deserves to read a properly written post
kill evil israelite and steal his goat for sex
1. To terrorize people.
2. To do whatever Iran tells them to do. In this case, it was probably something to the effect of
>"Do something to disrupt peace talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia."
Hamas is too moronic to comprehend the passage of time and changes in the geopolitical landscape. It isn't the 1960's anymore where pan-Arabism and Baath ideology was dominant. The modern day middle-east is rife with sectarianism on the one hand and corruption on the other. They got enough shit to deal with, they don't need the Palis stirring up more. Their only allies are Houthi cavemen and western limp-wrist leftoids who only cry on social media about the poor wittle oppressed palis.
You also have to keep in mind that the Arab Street on average is much more radical than the people actually running these countries. Yeah, the people would love to send more support to Palestinians but like...those trade deals are really nice man, the leaders would rather just do business with Israel.
This is only because the average Arab has not had to live with a Pali for any extended period of time, otherwise they would change their minds very quickly.
The most rational plan I can think of was the hope this would torpedo Israel/Saudi relations since they're improving.
Realistically it was probably to take hostages for a prisoner swap, but they’re 60 IQ goatfrickers and Israel was caught completely off guard so the temptation to rape and kill the israelites they suddenly had access to was too great
Act on Russian and Iranian interests and be discarded afterwards.
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2024-01/news/iran-accelerates-highly-enriched-uranium-production
Plan? Their plan was essentially to jump up and down firing rusty AKs while shouting "MULLAH JALLAH KEBAB ALLAH" and hope for the best.
The more that comes out about it the more you see that it was basically a scheme chalked up by Sinwar and his clique in Gaza and the leadership in Qatar/Iranians weren't aware of it. The Hamas plan was to drag Lebanon/Syria/Yemen/Iran/Iraq into the war with them and wreck normalization with the Saudis. So far they've only gotten Yemen dragged in and the Saudis have said they're still pursuing normalization.
Hamas is probably one of the most vile regimes out there, not because of the warcrimes they do against their enemies (that sort of stuff is fairly common worldwide) but the utter disregard they have for their own people. There's no other force in the world that has institutionalized the concept of human shields and sacrificing your own civilians as fodder for the cameras as much as they have (granted all muslims are guilty of this, even ISIS).
To get hostages for an exchange with the Palestinian mostly women and children abducted by Israel at checkpoints etc.
To block Arabs normalising relations with Israel.
Considering the world has picked up on the fact that Israel killed over 10x the number of civilians the Russians did in years of war with Ukraine, I'd say they were successful. Israel hoped to continue, quietly removing the Palestinians from their homeland, but now they're being forced to confront the reality that they can't just kill millions of people while crying about the holocaust and antisemitism, or snub institutions set up to protect the post WW2 peace.
Not only that, but the US's leadership takes another blow. People can see that they're bombing the Houthis for blocking Israeli shipping, while the US refuses to sanction Israel in any way for behaviour that would have gotten a regime change and oil steal if it were any other country in the middle east.
People seem to be forgetting this, while screeching autistically in defence of what they mistakenly believe to be "western" interests, but what are actually the self serving beliefs of American and Israeli politicians. The Iraq war, the war in Libya, getting kicked out of Afghanistan, these many financial crises, the US's failures are many, and we're paying for it, not the politicians.
>Considering the world has picked up on the fact that Israel killed over 10x the number of civilians the Russians did in years of war with Ukraine, I'd say they were successful
kek, don't tell me people actually believe this 10x garbage, the official UN verified total in Ukraine (which significantly undershoots the actual total) is over 10,000
>People can see that they're bombing the Houthis for blocking Israeli shipping
"People" as in pro-palestinians. Everyone else knows better, but you knew that already.
Having the pro-palis march around in Western streets for "death to America" jihadist slavers is doing Israel a HUGE favor lmao.
If their plan was to throw a spanner into Israeli normalization of relations with Arab it worked. Pretty steep cost though.
The big question is, will Israel lose the genocide trial?
Who cares. Let the UN Black folk seethe. Nothing will come of it
You'll be ordered to stop the war. Then you'll defy the order. And the propaganda writes itself. You'll be branded an international pariah who rejected the consensus of the globe.
I think you're locked into what is called a nihilistic downward spiral.
There’s you caring about optics again. I guess Russia lost hard in Ukraine then.
Let me put it simply. You fricked up.
You fricked up the war the moment you decided, "Let's bomb the shit out of everything and cause a humanitarian crisis we'll fail to prepare to fix, while our leadership fails to watch its mouth and make idiotic statements that could be used in a future genocide trial as evidence of intent".
You couldn't have fricked more if you tried. You should have launched a full-scale ground offensive. More losses sure, but less civilian deaths.
>zoomie trannies in the west will save us in 30 years!
Always my fave
TLDR: You absolute idiots squandered the goodwill you had after the Hamas attack.
Haha, literally nobody gives a shit about Gaza. Twitter isn't real life, those people don't exist. The entire world saw what they did on 7th October and was like
>"Welp, I guess they deserve what's coming."
The "protests" are tiny and get smaller every week. Like down to 50k in London. Sorry, Habibi, nobody cares about Palestinians.
No one cares, keep crying brownoid.
>Russia lost hard in Ukraine
Oh for frick's sake! Are you really casting yourself as genocidal invader RUSSIA in a hypothetical situation? You're supposed to cast yourself as UKRAINE, the wronged nation that was unjustly attacked without provocation.
Now I'm forced to wonder: how many fricking Russians are in the IDF.
You seek to think i care about these hypothetical morality arguments
Morality is everything, dude.
that's not how it works
even if they find israel guilty and decide that israel must leave gaza, to enforce the decision they'll have to bring it to the security council for them to vote on
where the US will veto it
just like they did about Nicaragua v. United States
>US once again has to ruin its own reputation for Israel
>US once again has to spend money on protecting Israel
>US once again has to bomb and secure a part of the middle east for Israel's sake
Sooner or later the cost-benefit calculus is going to shift to "do it yourself, lol"
Nobody with good ties with US will change those ties due to support for Israel
Nothing else you said is happening
>US once again has to ruin its own reputation for Israel
nobody really cares about the palestinians this much
>US once again has to spend money on protecting Israel
vetoing in the UN security council is free
>US once again has to bomb and secure a part of the middle east for Israel's sake
???
Saudis are still going to normalize short of MBS and his supporters coup’d
It was always a weird PR move to make Israel overreact, and hopefully curb away their support from others. Don't think it worked all that much. Some certainly speak more openly about a two state solution, but I don't think that was their goal, probably.
If they're fully allahu ackbars it was literally just a rape and pillage jihad, but I'm not sure how many are willing to admit it.
The north is still infested with schizos hiding in tunnels taking potshots at Israel but IDF is still operating with impunity despite that. What are Yasin doing???
Doesn't really matter, 99% of their population is sleeping outside in a giant unesco villages with no roof, the other 1% will slowly be picked off eventually.
Iran being low IQ managed to take the spotlight from Gaza thanks to HouthiBlack folk.
Sasuga, if they did nothing and told their allies to just stand down and watch Israel commit warcrimes on the poor Palestinian it would have aided more in their cause than causing havoc to global shipping.
>if they did nothing and told their allies to just stand down and watch Israel commit warcrimes on the poor Palestinian
This is the only part of the plan that's working. It also looks kind of bad that America has to police the Red Sea themselves after 10 years of their Saudi allies failing to contain the Houthis.
The Saudis fighting the Houthis is like Russia fighting Ukraine, this time even more armed.
There's videos all over /k/ including a blown Stryker and Bradley. There's even one where 2-3 Houthis gunned down an entire platoon who were sleeping kek.
I know Saudis aren't soldiers much less foot soldiers but they're even more incompetent in war.
Saudis are Afghan National Army tier and would just as easily surrender if American aid was pulled back. Europe and Japan is all we have, everyone else is a frick-up liability.
you forgot someone
Japan 2
Literally who?
>same uniform as US Muhreens
Literally vassal tier, not even Japan would stoop this low and have distinct uniforms.
but it looks good
Good. I would trust a Korean vassal over a German with delusions of grandeur.
Germany would have a perfectly good military if the wasn't so goddamn inefficient with its funding. It's not even because of corruption, it's because it's too bureaucratic. Because of course it is, fricking Germans.
They literally owe their country's existence to the US marines, Japan was conquered by the US, the rok and US marines are brothers in arms.
Australia and New Zealand as well. I have big hopes for Argentina under their new weirdo guy.
>New Zealand
Their Australia's Canada. The military is a joke because they know their neighbor is gonna step in if they get attacked,
When was the last major military engagement they were in outside of vietnam ?
New Zealand is coming under more and more scrutiny for how cozy they're getting with China to the point there is very vague talk of 5 Eyes going to 4 Eyes, which isn't a whole lot but does imply the US would like them to sort themselves out.
>japan
Aside from their navy, their ground forces are a liability.
If you look at their geography, that's kinda the point. Them being an island necessitates that they have one of the best navies in the world specifically so that they don't have to have a big army waiting for the enemy to land at Satsuma
"Europe". The hell is that,
Not naming actual countries?
you want me to say NATO instead you pedant? you'll find that most countries in europe fall within it
Isn't Vietnam good too?
>The Saudis fighting the Houthis is like Russia fighting Ukraine, this time even more armed.
The difference is Saudi does badly out of sheer laziness.
>The difference is Saudi does badly out of sheer laziness.
How does one even come to such a ridiculous conclusion?
I think I know the video you're talking about and it may have been even worse because IIRC the frickers were literally drinking tea so they don't even have the excuse of being asleep on guard duty. They were on guard duty and being willfully negligent.
Benji's plan was probably to embarrass the US by forcing them to condone and make excuses for large-scale child killing until they agreed to invade Iran.
Netanyahu is slowing down the assault and will only win once Trump is sworn in so we can finally get TPD.
Is there any good source of news for what the frick is going on over there? I used to rely on the Times of Israel, but lately they've been yowling about being put on trial for genocide by South fricking Africa, as if anyone actually gives a frick.
al jazeera for the arab narrative, haaretz for the israelite narrative, and OSINT homosexuals on twitter for the actual nitty gritty of the operations taking place
Al Jazeera says Hamas is winning and that they captured multiple israelites by their tails.
and haaretz says that the third temple will be built this year and that america will nuke iran
someone posted a video of a chinee astronomer talking about how the astrology numberology says israel will bomb iran and china will be destroyed or something
so yeah, probably true tbh
>and china will be destroyed or something
Well, there's at least a 10% chance it will just spontaneously combust going by all the liveleak footage.
>Shit has been real quiet the last week
Man, have you SEEN the state of this board over the last few days?
Yeah but the state of this board is not reflective of the Gaza situation. Israeli casualties in Gaza are way way down from what they were last month
I had to endure endless cope about how the Israelis would be massacred in the thousands by the urban and tunnel fighting in Gaza City. For months I was told that tankies in the West would overthrow their governments to support Hamas. The worst part is that none of those people have even changed their minds, they've moved on to other copes.
>2nd Baghdad 03
Back then, the browns were saying exactly the same thing; that Americans would get slaughtered by the thousands, that it would be another Mogadishu, that it would be the battle that ended the American empire, etc. You should be able to recognize the pattern now, you can apply it to Yemen and amaze your friends with the power of prophecy.
>Mogadishu
Didn't, like, just 21 guys die there on the american side while somalis faces at least ten times as many casualties?
You're right, I mistyped. They were saying it would be 10,000 Mogadishus.
Do Houthis even have that many fighters for casualties of 10,00 Mogadishus?
Somali National Alliance claimed their losses were around 100 dead and honestly they may not have actually been lying about that because a lot of the combatants were just Average Joes who were pissed the Americans and grabbed the nearest gun and attacked them. SNA may have indeed had around 100 of the fighters on their official records killed but several times that number of civilians-turned-combatants were killed too.
Overall, most sources from Department of Defense memos to NGOs put the death toll at 500-1,000, including non-combatants.
>average joes
>pissed at Americans
This is the part I don't get, Aidid was just openly attacking UN forces, and stopping aid going to the people.... and in the scurvy Black folk' mind this somehow translates to: "it da whyte's fault I ain't go no free free"
Many such cases
Look up the Bloody Monday Raid
Honestly the people of Gaza are lucky the other Arab countries didn't ape out with Hamas.
If a full scale, all fronts war would have happened like in 73, Israel wouldn't have had the ability to properly react to all fronts and they would have had to close a front as quickly as possible without regard to casualties on either side or actually be overrun.
Closing a front with an agressor who wants you dead requires either killing him(population wide) or inflicting so much damage that they collapse from the inside due to internal resistance to the war.
The later takes time to implement and the former requires nuclear levels firepower.
Gaza would have been the easiest front to close when you decide "frick the international community, frick their laws, frick human rights and frick the few hostages" due to it's land size and the fact that they aren't a country.
Tldr: Gaza being the only actual war front is the only thing that prevented Total Gaza Death in the first week.
Nah, that wouldn't have happened. Lebanon would have been turned into glass though. If Israel was concerned about Gaza in a multi-front war they'd just level the place with artillery and airpower without ever sending troops deep inside it, at most you'd see tanks firing at strongpoints from the outskirts of Gaza City or whatever.
Lebanon is where you'd see the M113s running wild and gunning down anything that moves. Syria too.
Good god the level of delusion on /k/ is incredible. Israel hasn't finished a war on its on terms in 50 years. This will be no different. Israel's economy is in freefall. Military + economic losses have surpassed $100b in just 3 months. Would be like US spending $3.5t in 3 months if scaled for economy size.
This war is ending with IDF pulling out of Gaza and Hamas bigger and more popular than ever.
2 more weeks
Probably not when Iran is trying to drag this out as long as possible
I make a counter-prediction. Hamas won't survive the war, but an even more extremist faction will rise to replace it. It will basically run on pure hatred of Israel, gearing its entire policy on revenge for the devastation to civilians.
The only way Hamas is going away is if everyone is deported from Gaza. Hamas is more popular than ever in Gaza now. They had minority support before this war. Why would they not survive this war?
Systematic annihilation. My point is, it won't matter in the long run. An even more fanatical organization will take its place, fixated on revenge. Israel will win the war but lose the peace.
this is childish naivety that Americans had during the war on terror years. They aren't going to get rid of Hamas through fighting because Hamas only engage when they want to. when they don't want to engage they are dressed in civilians and look like everyone else. Same reason USA couldn't get rid of Al Qaeda or Taliban. So hence what I said, they can only remove Hamas by deporting the entire population of Gaza (which they aren't going to do).
I don't think the goal was to ever destroy Hamas anyway. I think Israel was trying to destroy Gaza and ethnically cleanse Gaza so they could annex it. Too much heat for it now, they've abandoned that idea.
afaik the population of northern gaza has been nakba'd 2.0 already. mwuhaha dead pali rats drying out in the desert soon
The second nakba isn't happening, but they deserve it.
It’s called mowing the lawn. You consistently beat them into submission through raids day after day, making their life hell but keeping things fine for Israelis at minimal cost
See how Israel controls the West Bank today vs the intifada days of mass carnage. That is Gazas future.
Now that the core of Hamas is gutted they can enjoy the new status quo
>muh guerilla war!
Gaza far too small for that, and Israeli casualties are already way down from even a few weeks ago. They’ll do jackshit like in the West Bank where you have 309 dead Palis to 1 border cop
That's not what mowing the lawn is. Mowing the lawn is to destroy their economies to keep them in perpetual poverty. The phrase comes from an Israeli General talking about why they were mass bombing Lebanon and Gaza once in awhile.
It works in the short time but now they find out since Gazans couldn't chase materialism like every other society they had nothing to do but have kids and so their population doubles every 20 years. Classic case of israeli hubris
Mowing the lawn are periodic operations to keep Arabs passive. It works in the West Bank for the last 20 years and will be what gazas future is. IDF is never leaving Gaza even if it isn’t going to be resettled again
Israel went from 10 KIA a day a month ago to 1 every 3-4 days now. Imagine after a year of constant mopping up operations. This is basically how the West Bank was pacified and attrition only hurts the Palestinians more
The destruction though should fuel the rise of an even angrier faction. Common suffering breeds shared rage.
Who cares, as long as they’re neutered and can’t bother Israelis it doesn’t matter. Israel has never bothered to win hearts and minds and has done fine
>Done fine
The Palestinians literally have nothing else to do but try to kill you now. You've blasted everything to pieces with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. Desperation and starvation don't exactly make people think straight.
The logical evolution for Palestine now is to switch from one large armed to lots of smaller ones.
>you
Not Israel
>they’ll hate you
Who cares, they have since forever
The only mistake here was leaving Gaza and letting Palis get too much autonomy but that’s fixed now. Israel has controlled the West Bank fine for 20 years now despite all the hate you can imagine
Gazans will be miserable for the foreseeable future while Israelis gradually heal and move on. Just like the intifada
Arabs only understand power, if you show them an iron fist they will respect it and know not to go against it because they remember the trauma of that iron fist, they would not dare go against it, they will bow down to it.
You've tried that for how many decades now? How is that working out for you? Their rage hasn't exactly gone away. They collect grievances like others collect stamps.
That's exactly what mowing the lawn is. They get too uppity and fire too many rockets at cities and Israel bombs them until they rocket attacks die back down. This is just a more extreme example precipitated by a more extreme attack.
No it's not. In the case of Lebanon 2006 they used a small border raid as an excuse to bomb out all bridges, infrastructure and utilities in Lebanon. It's part of a deliberate strategy to keep everyone around them destroyed so they're the only stable nation and everyone else is bickering. It's worked against them though because in the void made by instability, Iran took over much of the region.
>Iran
meme
>a small border raid
...followed up by firing tens of thousands of rockets at cities. Again, getting uppity and firing more rockets than normal.
>It's part of a deliberate strategy to keep everyone around them destroyed so they're the only stable nation and everyone else is bickering
And they could easily thwart this dastardly plan by...not attacking Israel.
They started firing tens of thousands of rockets after Israel started bombing everything in Lebanon. They did a border raid to grab some Israelis for a prisoner swap and Israel went in thinking they could eliminate Hezbollah. This was 2006 when US was gearing up for invading Iran. The plan was to take out Hezbollah first but after a month of fighting the IDF had to give up
>They started firing tens of thousands of rockets after Israel started bombing everything in Lebanon
No, the rocket attacks were coordinated with the raid. They literally started at the same time.
>This was 2006 when US was gearing up for invading Iran
Where the frick do you get this shit from? There was no buildup to any sort of invasion in 2006. We were balls deep in Iraq and weren't sparing anything for anything else.
Don't do border raids, that fricking simple.
>we dindu nuffin
>a country shouldn't fear for its stability every time it attacks its neighbor
you're worse than Black folk
>Gaza couldn't chase materialism
Theres not an apartment in Gaza without a PS4 with 10 copies of fifa and a closet of puma attire lmao
gee that'll stop people having 6 kids for sure
>everyone is deported from Gaza
This can be facilitated. Moreso they've spent so no long screeching wolf about an open air prison to no avail that this can now become their reality if the fates avert a total depopulation of gaza strip.
It's pretty clear nobody is going to let this happen. Israel has no international support for it and is now in front the ICJ. It's not happening anymore. Everyone could see that's what they were hoping to do. Palestinians are already returning to North Gaza with the US State Department openly calling for this to happen too.
>the ICJ.
Uh oh the UN will frown at the situation next!
If Israel is held responsible for genocide it gives every country the legal ability and obligation to freeze Israeli assets and use it to rebuild Gaza.
>If
A very useful hypothetical for your cause.
You made fun of the consequence. My reply is about what the consequence will be so now you cope by turning attention to the risk
You're delusional. It won't happen. Nothing like that will ever happen.
The only countries that will do that are ones that are already b***hy with Israel where they don’t have any assets anyway. I doubt Israel has much in South Africa anyway they’ve never been friendly with the ANC
And if they want to rebuild Gaza they’ll need Israel to angree anyway.
i want this to happen. i love to see you driven out with the whip.
for your terror attacks in the 70s and scamming for free gibs since then, poorshit brown carpet frickers
T.Austrian
ps: only a dead muslim is a good muslim
and
you lying pali rats are worse than israelites
>As a European, I want millions of Palestinians to come to Europe
as a european i can see the polls
and 2024 has elections for half of the eu
and everyones pissed off by THE FRICKING BROWNSHIT MIGRANTS AND THEIR LEFTY SUPPORTERS
so the palis are gonna die or cuddle together
because we will be deporting
en masse
en detail
summer of '24 the right wing backslab is at the doors
and its gonna be beautiful, brutally beautiful
The right wing governments historically import far more browns than anyone. They're all white nationalist flavored Zionists.
The only thing that has changed for Israel or Iran here is Gaza has now been neutered
Who is (probably more like "was") this guy anyway? Do we have any idea what happened to him?
just search for mr fafo on twitter. last time i checked a couple weeks ago, he was caught on video by a third party, prepping for a video selfie rant near a hospital.
This, but also help we need a ceasefire now
>you’re spending too much money! Withdraw! Muh GDP
The most desperate form of Muslim cope and when they start this you know they’re in a bad situation
>We're winning!
>Ceasefire now pls
Lol, /misc/Black folk are so subverted it's hilarious. They're like the most used up prostitutes on the planet and ever single authoritarian or even wannabe authoritarian just comes in, pulls down their pants and spunks right into /misc/'s open mouths with no fricks given.
>comes in, pulls down their pants and shits right into /misc/'s open mouths with no fricks given.
FTFY, there's a reason why useful idiots are called shit-eaters.
Israelis see this as a war of survival so screeching about their economic repercussions as a way to try and get them to stop isn’t going to work
israeli here, can confirm
but leftists might slightly disagree and try to go for a less than ideal deal
No shit they see this war as a war for survival.
but it's going to end in their disappointment. Israel hasn't won a war on its own terms in 50 years and now they're snookered by Iran
There’s no scenario here where Gaza remains free. They’re just going to be easier and easier to occupy the longer this goes on. Their only hope was a concentrated asymmetric defense when Israel first invaded but they got rekt
They’re too small to do a tslivan style guerrilla war. Hamas can hide amongst civilians I guess but they’ll all be captured or killed in time. Or they don’t and just live under the new status quo. They won’t be able to do much in any regard
>muh Iran will save Gaza
Iran had to use artillery to put down their last revolt, which are bi-yearly events by this point. The regime is on borrowed time and short of a Russian adventure to save them like In Syria (can’t see it happening with them bogged down in Ukraine) they xan have fun with the gradually escalating mass uprisings whilst they continue to get bombed with impunity by Israel
God I wish we could have seen Assad strung up in Syria...
Not my fault we chickened out. I wanted Assad dead. Should have axed him on the spot.
That's not entirely a forgone conclusion at this point. The Syrian Civil War still rages on and Assad's running out of backers. If Turkey or Israel decided that he simply needed to go, there's very little Russia could do to save him at this point, they've expended so much of their stockpiles in Ukraine.
Is there even anyone left bar ISIS to take over after Assad?
Supposedly the original resistance still survives in a few cities.
Are you a zoomer? Iran always has protests it is nothing unusual for them. A bunch of urban liberals protesting in the cities are no threat to them. They derive their strength from the rural masses which are pro-regime. You believe too much of your own propaganda.
>they used artillery to put down a revolt
you're an idiot for believing that. Did you believe they were using chem weapons on girl schools too? idiot
>they’re no theat
>regime had to use artillery on their own towns last time
Interesting how you consider Israel suffering a 1.7% GDP decrease the end of them. I wonder what you’d say if Israel had to use artillery on their own cities to put down a civil revolt
Iran used artillery against PJAK Kurdish fighters crossing the borders from Iraq. They weren't protestors.
So basically a military occupation, putting Israelis constantly near people who want revenge for mass destruction of their homes, on top of the deaths of family members.
Yeah I don't see that going well.
Yeah a military occupation like in the West Bank
> Yeah I don't see that going well
Goes fine with West Bank, which is bigger than Gaza considerably. Once their infrastructure is demolished the new status quo can begin
The only mistake Israel made was ever leaving Gaza but that isn’t happening again
How much work are you prepared to do to rebuild Gaza? The eyes of the world are going to be upon you, considering you're facing a genocide trial.
0. If other countries want to spend billions rebuilding Gaza let them waste their own money. We won’t spend anything nor should we. Nor should anyone, for that matter
So you bombed the place, then refuse to fix the damage done to ordinary civilians. You occupy the place, but do nothing to help the suffering people. Propagandists are going to love that. It writes itself.
You really do not want to invite comparisons to Russia in Ukraine.
>muh optics!
Who cares. This is even worse then “think about your GDP! Surrender!”
I'm saying you suck at selling your side of the story.
Good thing I don’t care. Go block traffic in Seattle with the other troonys if it bothers you
You’re resorting to “think about your GDP”, “think about the optics”, “think about the hearts and minds” because Hamas has done so and militarily
All Americans are seeing are reports of ton of civilians getting killed, at the same time Russians are bombing Ukrainian cities.
Your timing is shit.
i know we get a bad rap for loving money
but we value our lives over money
you absolute fricking moron
if anything we are gearing up to also invade lebanon
t. IDF reservists
You're going to invade Lebanon because Netanyahu is trying to save himself. It's a strategically moronic idea to make a move when there isn't a pathway to finish it.
There won’t be an invasion of Lebanon beyond a limited ground operation. They’ll be bombed and bombed until Lebanon pressures Hezbollah to agree to a ceasefire. That’s all Israel wants anyway.
Once Lebanon goes quiet again Israel wins
Israel wins what exactly?
All Israel ever wants is quiet on its borders. A return to pre-October 7th Lebanon situation is a win for them. Especially as the Saudis still are going to normalize
Saudis said they will be happy to normalize with a two state solution. israeli media reports this as Saudi happy to normalize relations. you fell for your on propaganda. It's not happening.
Saudis always said that. So did UAE/morocco/Oman/whatever when they normalized.
Saudis are going to normalize just like all the other countries have, it’s inevitable short of a regime change. It’s why Hamas chimped out and got 30k Palis killed and Gaza reoccupied to delay it a year
Oman didn't normalize, they banned relations with Israel.
Morocco only normalized because they fear Algeria now its become an Iran proxy. Saudi wont normalize anymore, they've joined BRICS and pivoting to the other side.
Netanyahu has visited Oman several times but I meant Bahrain in any regard
BRICS is the dumbest title ever. India and China hate each other, Brazil doesn’t care, and South Africa are dumb monkeys
BRICS was coined by a israelite. It's just a collection of States opposing unipolar geopolitics. They are all picking on Israel because they know its the best leverage to have when negotiating with the USA. So Saudi isn't going to normalize relations with Israel unless USA sucks their dick juuuust right.
Bahrain will probably be the next country to have a revolution and flip to Iran. It's a Shiite population ruled by unpopular Sunni minority.
I don’t care who supposedly cooked BRICS it’s moronic. South Africans and Brazil won’t save Gaza from the new future it has chosen
The leadership says that. The actual populace is another matter.
The populaces don’t really care. How much resistance was there in any country to normalization? Saudis aren’t any more extreme than people in Sudan.
it's not enough anymore
israelis want to insure hezbollah won't have the ability to pull the same shit hamas did
they want hezbollah to pull behind the litani river
Oh great, so you want to stuck in BOTH Lebanon and Gaza at the same time?
yeah
so the bullshit about money is just bullshit
no they didn't
and it doesn't matter if they can fire rockets
thats not the threat they want to eliminate
oh and lebanon is on a brink of collapse regardless without israel's involvement
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/iraqi-resistance-strikes-haifa-with-advanced--al-arqab--crui
everyone is reporting this as a missile sent from Iraq
do you not understand english? rocket fire is not the concern they have
Yes it is, you're just too stupid to realize it. If you cant stop Iran's proxies launching rockets and missiles into Israel hten your economy is toast
again with the economy
the rocket fire won't last forever
a ceasefire will come about at some point and that nuisance will end
what israel cares about, is that a surprise attack from hezbollah won't result in anything similar to the 7th of october, which pushing hezbollah over the litani river would prevent.
you arabs are always forgetting that israel has a lot more firepower at hand to return fire
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ceasefire will happen when IDF pulls out of Gaza. Eventually Israelis will come to terms with the fact the missiles and rockets raining into Israel and blockades at sea won't end until they pull out of Gaza.
Iran basically controls Algeria now too. If they get involved they can cut Israel off from the Med sea. Israel is snookered by Iran.
Ceasefire will happen when Lebanese get bored of being bombed endlessly. Lebanon has already quasi collapsed anyway and a bombing campaign will push them even more. It’s why Hezbollah has done nothing of significance so far
The idea Lebanese will accept perpetual torment for Gazans is moronicz
and then all your wishes will come true
in reality
iran already lost its proxy in gaza
its proxy in lebanon will become a non threat to israel
and if they continue, they'll lose their proxy in yemen as well
sorry ahmed but you overplayed your hand
Israel tried to make a 30km buffer in 2006. Hezbollah can fire into Israel from anywhere in Lebanon especially 20 years later with modern missiles. Iraqi Shiites fired a missile into Haifa just days ago. It's over. Israel is snookered.
no it's because you fricked around too much and brought israel to a situation where it has no choice other than to invade
since hezbollah ego won't let them back down, while israel has to insure the safety of its people in the north, it means diplomacy isn't an option.
and if diplomacy isn't an option, it leaves just military might.
What was the biggest nothingburn?
>Hamas Drones
>Hamas Tunnels
>Hamas MRBM's
>Hamas Kornets
>Al-Yassin 105
>Hamas sniper rifles
In the end plain old IED's are responsible for like 60% of what minor IDF casualties there has been and friendly fire is like another 30% of that
the homemade palestoid RPG, i forgot what it was called
it's the Yasin he listed
Can't trust musslams to do shit
its not over only half of gaza has been liberated so far and the hard part is ahead
the buildup was for a lebanease/syrian invasion which the lebanease and syrians cucked out of. but we will still get a third lebanon war if the lebanease keep attacking
they are probably not going to liberate the reminder but steal all the land above the river.
85% of Gaza’s population lived in the north and it is much more heavily urbanized I.e. more difficult
the most fortified part was shujaiya, thats why the idf took everything else and then attacked it from all side and had the toughest fighting in the north there
other than that most of the occupation forces retreatet to khan yunis where the toughest fighting will be just because all the terrorists are there and cant retreat further because egyptian forces will hold off the tunnel entrances on the egyptian side
Judea & Samaria next fellas
Also, why not just Berlin Airlift Gaza?
>be fighting elite of Hamas
>kill some kids and old ladies
>gets massacred by TikTok roastie conscripts and cops
These fatties worship a dude who fuked a 9 year old
Lol, remember when /misc/niglets were coming on to /k/ to claim that Israel was starving those fat fricks.
Then someone produced a chart that shows Gaza has like the highest rate of obesity and without even a pause the /misc/Black folk started claiming that was Israel's fault too, that they were simultaneously starving the Gazans and meanwhile giving them super high calorie diets.
Shit was wild.
Reposting this again and again in any Israel versus Hamas thread I may come across. Because if all the Pro-Hamas jihadists and leftists and other braindead morons like Jake Shields in Twitter can repost their israelite-hating propaganda and A.I. slop in social media over and over ver again. Then I feel compelled to repost my pic related in PrepHole.
Cost of occupying West Bank is greater than the cost of occupying Gaza will be. Israel has done fine with the former
Again, Israelis don’t care because they’d rather spend $100 billion and suffer a GDP decrease of a few percentages for a year than have another October 7th massacre.
>muh Iran muh geopolitics!
Iran controls Iraq because bush was dumb and insisted on democracy. They’re in Syria because Russia spent $500 billion and 1,000 soldiers lives to save Assad. They’re in Yemen because Biden pressured Saudis to back off. Economics had nothing to do with it. Israel won’t facilitate Gaza now after what they’ve Iran has lost its southern front vs Israel permanently in any regard and all that Hamas can look forward to a year from now is the periodic checkpoint shooting spree that you see in the West Bank.
Israelis have the worst war fatigue on the planet. Most are still in the delusion and anger phase of grief and haven't understood they're 3 months into a war that they can't win.
>We're winning
>Ceasefire pls!
*gargle gargle*
>Israelis have the worst war fatigue on the planet.
not because we are Israelis, but because our force is largely dependent on reserves in times of war, meaning you take out a big part of the economy and family men, naturally people will want their husbands and fathers back.
But once you turn this big war into a smaller controlled conflict (which it is turning to) you can get people back to their families, jobs and businesses and rely solely (or majorly) on conscripts/active force, then, we can continue on and not get fatigued.
It's more than that.
>600k Israelis fled
>~350k pulled out of workforce for reserves
>ports are largely empty
>250k Israelis displaced internally
>tourism is down to zero
>foreign investment down 50%
>$30b foreign reserves sold off to stabilize the shekel
meanwhile Iran isn't even involved. Everything is done by their proxies.
>ports
No Israel only gets 5% of its trade from eilat
Nothing else here matters, if you think the pitched fighting of the last 3 months will be the case a year ago you’re moronic. Rocket fire around Gaza has vanished and Lebanon will be bombarded into agreeing to a new quiet eventually. Hezbollah is already backing off despite several high profile Israeli provocations
A year from now the only ones suffering will be Gazans
>if you don’t surrender your GDP will decrease!
Do you think this will work given what the Arabs have done this time. Maybe it could have if Israel invaded Lebanon again
Casualties in Gaza are only going down. IDF took 150 KIA in November-December but we’re halfway through January and they’ve taken 13 (with 6 due to friendly fire). I’m sure the great Hamas counterattack is right around the corner to change that though
The more Israel consolidates its hold over Gaza, destroys tunnels/infrastructure, rounds up fighting aged men, and the more normies stop caring about the war the worse it gets for you.
Gaza is only like 120 square km and open areas or wrecked urban landscape. There’s no scenario where a Vietnam or Afghanistan insurgency works
This will end with IDF pulling out of Gaza and no change to territory and no deportation. Gaza will be rebuilt and population will double again over 20 years. Everything Israel does always backfires on itself. Hamas is in power because Israel sponsored them to counter Fatah. Hezbollah is 10x the size it was since they last went to war in 2006. Nothing Israel does is every strategically competent
Israel is never leaving Gaza again. I do agree troop levels will gradually decrease though. That’s part of the plan anyway. Gaza will be transformed into the West Bank with limited autonomy but security control by Israel combined with periodic mowing operations/raids to keep them neutered.
Rest of this just dumb Muslim speculation and cope
I can't wait to see the cope in time when IDF pulls out completely.
I can’t wait to see the cope when Israel still is inside Gaza and conducting regular raids a year from now
That would require Israel to stop all of Iran's proxies from keeping Israel's economy shut down. No chance
If you mean the houthis, only 5% of Israel’s trade comes in through there and worst case scenario they go around Africa again (like they did 1948-1979) while Yemenis starve. Nothing else they’re doing is effecting Israel’s economy
The costs of Houthis blocking the red sea for israel are about $4b per month
lol
> Eilat accounts for just 5% of Israeli trade
https://www.janes.com/amp/troubled-waters-impact-of-the-red-sea-crisis-on-the-economies-of-egypt-israel-and-jordan/ZnlJK3dHVU9mZ28xajRJVkc5dVI5VFp1cVMwPQ2
also note: Israel had no access to the Red Sea at all from 1948 to 1979
This affects Saudis, Egyptians, etc much more which is why the Houthis haven’t even attacked a single ship going to Israel yet. Let others have fun cleaning up the mess. Hopefully another famine breaks out in Yemen again while we laugh
What has Eilat got to do with it? A lot more than 5% of trade was going through the Red Sea.
>muh no access to Red Sea 50 years ago
50 years ago China and India weren't trading with the world
You're just desperate at this piont
>israel will collapse because maybe ships from China will go around Africa to get to Israeli ports
Geez and you say we’re desperate
No that’s the amount going from the Red Sea. The idea Israeli ships were bothering to cross the Suez Canal and paying hefty fees to the Egyptians to get to Mediterranean ports is nonsensical
>Never leaving Gaza
What exactly is your endgame here? A perpetual occupation that practically gift-wraps your enemy a rationale to oppose you?
the disengagement from gaza failed
they proved they can't self govern
therefore they'll live under occupation until some new solution is brought up
>What exactly is your endgame here
What was the end game when Isreal created Hamas?
Gibs. Endless gibs.
> A perpetual occupation
Yes. And with Arabs gradually normalizing it isn’t a problem anymore
> that practically gift-wraps your enemy a rationale to oppose you?
Who cares
You just ignore how the West Bank is controlled with minimal loss of life or damage. Gaza was the same way before Israel left, leaving is what allowed it to fester
>Wasn't a problem anymore
The threat of being forgotten drove Hamas to invade Israel directly and drag you into this war. You'll be stuck in Gaza for God knows how long.
Good. Nobody in Israel wants to leave Gaza again.
Casualties are continuing to decrease dramatically.
Not him, but there is no reasonable endgame.
Israeli society was founded on illegal occupation and military displacement of someone else's homeland. These people are fundamentally fanatics.
There's no great plan, no secret Zionist conspiracy. The people will just keep getting more radical in response to the politicians, who will get more radical for electoral gain, and so on. With this in mind, you can begin to understand the 80 years of history, and how their government is by now fascist in practice, going out of their way to repackage it as "ultranationalism" or "right wing" Zionism, when it's just Zionism in a bubble of growing overconfidence with a security guarantee from the US.
They even helped Hamas become the government of the Gazans, giving them the exact same model. There is no winding this conflict down, until one or both of them completely overreach and provoke another military intervention by outsiders.
When peace comes, the Palestinians will almost certainly outnumber the Israelis, and they'll assume political control of their country once more. The Israeli politicians know this, and don't want to be the whites in South Africa, going back to our little cycle of self radicalisation in the first paragraph.
People won’t care about Palestinians in a year like they didn’t care about them pre chimpout. Arab countries least of all.
I offer a less cynical interpretation.
Israel should have made peace early in its establishment. Palestinian state after the first war ended. Everyone gets something.
They'd end up like India and Pakistan. Perpetually bickering and periodically clashing. But it would be better than this shit.
the only acceptable peace terms to the Muslims were the expulsion of israelites, or their enslavement.
>that practically gift-wraps your enemy a rationale to oppose you?
Gaza didn't have that rationale for over a decade and yet still ran with it. And their useful idiots abroad also ran with it.
The truth doesn't fricking matter here, they're a gaggle of primitive morons trying everything they possibly can to gain territory, that's their casus belli, they don't need another. "We're poor, moronic, and brown, we deserve land" is their constitution.
Why do you keep insisting you're only white? You should be promoting the fact Israeli is actually a multi-racial state, and not a bunch of "white colonialists from Europe". Israelis began as a Semitic people.
Seriously, when too many people think Israel, they think, "White people stealing brown people's land".
do you really believe the israelites will allow the monobrows back? how low iq are you?
the israelites are gonna put their hardcore settlers behind barbed wire mg nests and create a glacis that was once called gaza north. the rest of the palipest can cuddle together in what is left with a roof in the southern gaza areas.
id expect a long march eastwards through the desert to hezbollah land. or to die in the hot sand south of south gaza. because egypt wont do a lebanon, and the clock is ticking pali rats...lel
Slaves do work for a master without compensation.
Hamas is paid to not work and attacked a foreign country.
Every Arab country says this when they normalize. Even Sadat said it in 1979. You don’t understand m how this dance works
Nobody cares about Palestinians, they’re treacherous parasitic rats. Saudis and Kuwaitis expelled most of theirs a long time ago
If nobody cares about them, then they literally have nothing to lose opposing you but their lives. It's perfect for a martyrdom complex.
And so you're stuck in a perpetual war. You can win wars but you suck at winning any kind of peace.
Let them all get themselves killed then
We’ve been stuck in perpetual war since the start, it’s not bad unless you let the Arabs get too uppity.
>Uppity
There's that image problem again. To Americans, "Uppity" means "white people oppressing black people". You really do not understand something called tact.
I fully get Israelis do not see the worlds like Americans do, but you suck at PR.
You seem to think anyone cares about muh optics
>dude the Saudis are totally committed to justice for the Palestinian people! The israelites have brainwashed you!
Lmao
>muh economy
>muh diplomacy
>muh optics
>muh Iran
>muh Lebanon
>muh Yemen
>muh Zoomies
Note the Pali shills never bring up Hamas battlefield results
>thinking anyone in the ME supports Palestine beyond meaningless words
How can you look at the past 50 years of ME relations, specifically how other nations treat Palestine and its people and still believe they care about their well being?
>we never wanted to win anyway
Hamas sisters….
Ayatollahs gonna have fun with another revolt soon
your choice to believe delusional Iranian diaspora
Huh? The Iranian diaspora is doing jackshit. Last revolt killed thousands and pissed off Iranians towards the regime even more
Iranian diaspora run the narrative on Iranian protests. They are the ones posting made up stories about Iran massacring thousands of protestors and using chem weapons on schools, saying they sentenced 15,000 protestors to death etc
Actually vox did a pretty honest article on Iranian protests;
>https://www.vox.com/world/2022/12/12/23498870/iran-protests-information-war-bots-trolls-propaganda#:~:text=The%20protests%20defying%20the%20government,of%20what's%20happening%20in%20Iran.
Basically, everything is made up and bots are used to propagate the news.
>there are no protests in Iran! Everything is fine!
Do you think it’s normal for a stable regime to have massive civil upheavals that kill thousands every year
That's my point. The stories about Iran killing thousands of protestors are completely fabricated. The vox article talks about some of this stuff. Everyone in Iran has phones if the regime was killing people there'd be plenty of footage of it.
MEK and a bunch of Iranian diaspora run the narrative on what is going on in Iran. It gets reported as "Iranian human rights group says XYZ". It's all fabricated.
The 15,000 Iranians sentenced to execution was fabricated
The chem weapons used on schools was fabricated.
The girl raped and murdered by security forces, fabricated.
The girl that had her home bulldozed for removing her hijab, fabricated
This is just shit political Iranian diaspora make up. The vox article covers it
Lmao you can literally just go on liveleaks and see the vids for yourself. Peak mudshit denial
Yeah I've seen the same 10 videos you did. And videos of protests of ~100 people at a time. Have you ever seen pro-regime protests?
The urban liberal in Iran are anti-regime and they're not going to overthrow a government backed by the rural demographic that run the country and are actually militant. It's false reporting.
>from protests not existing to “well it wasn’t that big!”
This. Yearly violent revolts in your cities aren’t a big deal.
Now 5% of Israel’s trade maybe going around Africa now, that’ll collapse a country
You think only 5% of Israel's trade was going throuhg the red sea? lol
>israeli waste time and hefty fines going through Suez instead of just docking in Eilat because ???
Eilat is Israel’s Red Sea port. And even WoRST CASE scenario they just go around Africa like they did 1949-1979
Yes? Do you have a source saying it doesn’t
Theres a reason the Houthis never attack Israel bound ships, because ships going through there to Israel are minimal
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/bjhjmbn8t
>For Israel, the repercussions of this incident could be even more substantial. According to Dr. Elyakim BenHakoun from the Industrial Engineering and Management Faculty at the Technion Institute of Technology, "About 99% of goods (in terms of cargo volume) reach Israel by sea, and around 40% of the cargo arriving in Israel passes through the Suez Canal."
Like how much of a fricking homosexual moron do you have to be to think the route between Israel and East Asia is only 5% of their trade. lmao.
NTA but
>cargo goes around Africa now
>Israel collapses
Wishful thinking.
Ive read elsewhere its costing Israel $4b per month. It won't collapse them but every bit helps! Go houthis!
Yeah you just said they’re collapsing now “they’re hurting”. Good goalpost shift
And Houthis can have fun introducing another famine to Yemen in the meantime to that minor GDP decrease in Israel
israel already bypassing the houthis thanks to nonexistent arab unity
for produce that won't survive the journey around africa
This will take a century to set up.
Israel is now bogged down 3 months into a war and economy crumbling. Iran is laughing. They sit back and chill out while Israel is in a fight for its life
This Israel collapses in 2 more weeks but until then we need a ceasefire plz
>bogged down
Unlike your map OP's isn't fake. Hamas die screaming.
More iranians have been violently killed in the 3 weeks then Israelis
it's already set up
cope
>bogged down 3 months into a war
2 more weeks to slow the IDF adv-ACK!
Even Iran acknowledged the revolts as real
the protests are real. calling them revolts is pushing hard.
protests were big in Kurdistan, Tehran and Baluchistan. None of this is unusual for Iran, Baluchistan has had friday protests every friday for 4 years.
There weren't really protests happening in the other 80% of the country, which was quiet. I saw videos coming out of places like Mazandaran, Tabriz, Yazd and I saw maybe 100 people on video. Statistically nothing when you consider how many millions live there. But every Iranian diaspora circulates these videos and says Iran is in revolution and you fall for it.
I wonder if you’d downplay this if it was taking place in Israel. Apparently Israel having 5% of its trade go around Africa is nation ending but yearly civil uprisings aren’t anything
Regime killing and arresting people just pisses off Iranian Zoomies uninterested in genital mutilation and dying for Palestine m more btw
>Saudis and Iran
>good relations
Next level cope
Yes they do now. Both joined BRICS simultaneously too. All their foreign policy disagreements are put to rest. Saudi is now investing to build in Iran.
Lmao no, Saudis cut ties with Iran in 2017 and reestablished them under Chinese mediation. So it’s the same as before 2017 now. This Houthi shit is souring that anyway given it’s effecting Saudi shipping unlike Israel
>thinking BRICS is somehow a military pact or even economic pact and not just about market access
turdie cope
Is “we never wanted to win” the ultimate Pali cope?
I still remember the days of Gaza being a graveyard for israelites
IDF will pull out of Gaza and Netanyahu will call it a victory. No territory change on Gaza. No deportations of Gazans. Gaza's population will double over 20 years and it will be rebuilt with the help of Iran. Israel has already ended Phase 1 of warfare, Palestinians are already moving back to the North.
Israel is never leaving Gaza again. No deportations but Gaza becomes new West Bank and kept perpetually submissive
If Iran wants to rebuild Gaza they’ll have to talk to Israel btw
only a zoomer would think anyone is occupying a hostile population after what happened in iraq and afghanistan.
they are doing it in the west bank
Gaza is too tiny for that. Again you need to look at how Israel successfully pacified the West Bank
Israel ended phase 1 because Hamas has collapsed. Look at the plummeting IDf casualties and rocket figures to see that
IDF has had plummeting casualties because Phase 1 is over and IDF aren't pushing further into urban ground. Just doing surgical strikes now. IDF ended phase 1 without even capturing all of gaza. They cucked.
What areas are there to further push into? Nothing is more formidable than Gaza city which is where 80% of the rats lived pre war. I fail to see how Rafah will put up a better fight
they're literally expanding in new regions
and a push for the philadelphi corridor is expected soon
who are you trying to fool
No? They’re still actively pushing into central and south Gaza but it’s far less complex than it was in the north. It’s why Whatever small casualties being taken are in south Gaza now
The lighter blue areas are regions taken in the last 10 days btw
>Netanyahu will humiliate, imprison, and kill Israel's enemies and call it a victory
Yeah, those are the rules frickstick.
>think about the geopolitical implications! Israel hasn’t won a war in its own terms in-ACK
>fictitious map
Oh no, America is finished, the 1000 F35's are useless.
My favorite is Saudi Arabia being an Iranian ally because they returned their ambassador that left in 2017
Iran took over the region so yes it seems they are useless 🙂
It doesn't say they are allies. My favorite part is that you're stupid.
Funny how Israel knocked off one of irans biggest general and they do jackshit then
Let me guess, “we don’t NEED to retaliate we never needed him anyway”
Funny how Israel is now 3 months into a war fighting Iran's proxies and Iran is sitting back chilling
>Iran is sitting back chilling
Chilling, Soleimaniless, getting bombed.
It's hilarious that it was ISIS of all people.
They were really mad when Iran blamed Israel, lmao.
>Iran took over the region
Nice idea for a novel.
Israel literally killed Iran's top guy and Iran cried about it.
Bibi did the equivalent of wiping his wiener'n'balls all over Iran's windshield while Iran's family is in the car, and Iran turned to his wife with some exasperated onions-speak like "he can't do that, can he honey?"
Bitchmade.