Having slept under many an overpass on a bed of cardboard, I can say that air mats are needed for anywhere where the mattress of hobos is not plentiful. Cardboard is so fricking comfy, especially when it has a few layers.
I usually take two foam pads out on backpacking trips. At least one is a bare minimum necessity, you must get your body off the ground so that the ground doesn’t steal your heat. The second one is for comfort because I’m a side sleeper, it gives jusssst enough marginal comfort to allow me to actually fall asleep. I don’t use the inflatable pads due to reliability issues, I have never ever ever had one that stayed inflated through a whole night.
I've had a few. Really gotta baby them though. So finicky. They get rolled up only in their stuff sacks, loaded only in the top accessory sack of the backpack. Always clear the underside of where I set them down. It's a pain in the ass. *But* I get really really good sleep on a nice wide air pad. Still carry an accordion foam pad as a backup/sit pad.
I like jupiter. Him and his gf seem like a really good match for each other as well.
But let's be honest, the guy is fricking mentally ill or something. I mean at what point do you just say, this is fucning moronic, and you'd rather carry and extra 37 grams instead of suffering a terrible night's sleep? I don't even think I could fall asleep with his set up - a worthless tarp, a 3 micron thick half length sleeping "pad," a $3 bug net for your face only, all with a delicious meal (for the 380th time in a row) of cold soaked rice and beans.
How is this in ANY way enjoyable? I mean I admire the guy for how hardcore he is but I just don't get it. Does he enjoy torturing himself? Imagine hiking 30+ miles in a single day, fuelled on nothing but poverty meals of cold rice and beans, ready to settle in to a nice campsite of just a tarp offering little protection from wind amd rain, and zero protection from insects and critters.
You're just dumb and don't question things. I bet you think you need a full bed and pillow to be comfortable. I bet you think 3 meals a day is mandatory
>I don't even think I could fall asleep with his set up
Exhaustion is a great cure for insomnia, look at the dark rings around his eyes, he has trouble sleeping when not PrepHole. If you or I walked 30-40 miles a day like he does I think you could just about fall sleep on anything. t. ex soldier.
>How is this in ANY way enjoyable?
I agree, but he's young and testing his limitations.
Its a human thing when life gets pointless and boring. He'll slow down when he gets a bit older, we all do.
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Seconding hammock. Cured my sleeping pad woe.
I must be doing something wrong, because hammocks absolutely fricking ruin my back (I'm a side sleeper too). It's not so bad I wake up or anything, but The next morning I usually have back pain. Anything obvious I am doing wrong?
Good to know. Thankfully I sleep on my foam egg carton mat + inflatable pad combo like a king, but it is more weight and volume to carry I admit. Just a shame because the concept of a hammock+tarp appeals to me so much but the sleep I get is much worse personally.
You are getting trolled.
They're supposed to have a fair bit of sag and you're supposed to lie diagonally i them. Yours was most likely
1. too small
2. set up wrong
Find someone who sleeps in a hammock regularly and ask them to set one up for you and show you how to use it so that you can try a properly sized and hung one.
Wish that was realistic for me, but there aren't really any trees here on the tundra.
Double sleeping pad is what works here, single foam pad won't shield you from the rocks, and doesn't insulate enough in winter.
Just inflatable increases risk of puncture, and all insulation helps in winter.
Did enough super minimalist survival shit when I was in the military, now I want at least some comfort when PrepHole.
Hammock sleeping positions are not a 1:1 translation of bed sleeping positions since you are suspended in a sack that supports you from all sides rather than lying on a surface.
I'm a side sleeper at home but in a hammock I lie in some hybrid side/back position and let my head roll to the side.
It forced you to sleep on your back.
Trust me anon, as a lifetime side sleeper I know your pain. I would spend hours researching technique on how to force myself to learn to sleep on my back, stuff like sewing tennis balls on the side of my shirt and such.
But a hammock fixed it right away, it just feels so natural. I can sleep on my back or my side now.
fellow side sleeper here, hammocks can be good but you can also wake up with a very achy lower back. they're also conspicuous and you have limited setup options. so maybe you should just invest in a more comfortable pad like I'm going to. I like mixing up my shelters so I sleep on the ground a lot, but my current pad belonged to my dad and is very old and thin and shitty.
>I'm a side sleeper and I have such a hard time sleeping out
I have been trying to train my body at home to back sleep but I'll always wake up on my side
>Most outdoor youtubers seem to exist only to shill you gear.
Yeah, channels with nothing but glorified commercials. I hate that I can no longer tell apart whether someone actually likes a product, or whether they've been given money to shill it
The problem is you can only get so much content out of "I walked along this trail", and so must necessarily pivot to gear reviews if your channel is to stay alive. Because there's always new gear coming out, it generates clicks and controversy (TRAIL RUNNERS vs HIKING BOOTS: WHICH IS BETTER??) and can easily pivot to shilling in order to make an income off your channel.
At the end of the day hiking is a pretty boring "sport" for spectators. Hard to make content from it.
All very true.
I only watch hiking shit for gear reviews, it's otherwise boring as shit.
If I want to buy a tent, I will try to find a few worth considering, then I look at videos for those specific tents on youtube.
Some things are hard to see just going by some pictures and the description.
Can it be pitched fly first, for example, you can guess based on pictures, but with videos you can know before buying.
I don't mind "here's what I think about this item I've used for years" but a lot of it seems to be "today we're going to be comparing these 5 brand new sleeping pads from leading manufacturers and I will not have anything bad to say about any of them only recommend them for different uses".
I don't mind the gear reviews, but I want ones where some autist complains about having a YKK 5 zipper instead of a YKK 8. Check out this review that spends 5 pages demolishing the Mont Austral: https://maps.bushwalk.com/magazine/edition/201804/pages/64/69. It's not necessarily correct on every point, but even reading the review teaches me about what to look for in a jacket.
i don't backpack, but on family camping trips i've started using some really nice pads imported from eastern europe, they usually have an etsy site. I got a super nice sleeping pad filled with high quality wool batting with a washable linen cover. It's a bit heavy but who gives a frick? Backpacking is mostly a larp activity anyway. I have school age kids and a mortgage, I just want to go sleep outside for a week and drink beer.
Having slept under many an overpass on a bed of cardboard, I can say that air mats are needed for anywhere where the mattress of hobos is not plentiful. Cardboard is so fricking comfy, especially when it has a few layers.
As someone who likes UL gear and minimalism, this guy is mentally ill.
I usually take two foam pads out on backpacking trips. At least one is a bare minimum necessity, you must get your body off the ground so that the ground doesn’t steal your heat. The second one is for comfort because I’m a side sleeper, it gives jusssst enough marginal comfort to allow me to actually fall asleep. I don’t use the inflatable pads due to reliability issues, I have never ever ever had one that stayed inflated through a whole night.
I've had a few. Really gotta baby them though. So finicky. They get rolled up only in their stuff sacks, loaded only in the top accessory sack of the backpack. Always clear the underside of where I set them down. It's a pain in the ass. *But* I get really really good sleep on a nice wide air pad. Still carry an accordion foam pad as a backup/sit pad.
I like jupiter. Him and his gf seem like a really good match for each other as well.
But let's be honest, the guy is fricking mentally ill or something. I mean at what point do you just say, this is fucning moronic, and you'd rather carry and extra 37 grams instead of suffering a terrible night's sleep? I don't even think I could fall asleep with his set up - a worthless tarp, a 3 micron thick half length sleeping "pad," a $3 bug net for your face only, all with a delicious meal (for the 380th time in a row) of cold soaked rice and beans.
How is this in ANY way enjoyable? I mean I admire the guy for how hardcore he is but I just don't get it. Does he enjoy torturing himself? Imagine hiking 30+ miles in a single day, fuelled on nothing but poverty meals of cold rice and beans, ready to settle in to a nice campsite of just a tarp offering little protection from wind amd rain, and zero protection from insects and critters.
HOW IS THIS ANYTHING OTHER THAN TORTURE?
You're just dumb and don't question things. I bet you think you need a full bed and pillow to be comfortable. I bet you think 3 meals a day is mandatory
he literally sleeps on a mouse mat stfu
>I don't even think I could fall asleep with his set up
Exhaustion is a great cure for insomnia, look at the dark rings around his eyes, he has trouble sleeping when not PrepHole. If you or I walked 30-40 miles a day like he does I think you could just about fall sleep on anything. t. ex soldier.
>How is this in ANY way enjoyable?
I agree, but he's young and testing his limitations.
Its a human thing when life gets pointless and boring. He'll slow down when he gets a bit older, we all do.
I watched some random video from this guy and learned that in America you need to buy a ticket to walk on a trail.
I'm a side sleeper and I have such a hard time sleeping out
Hammock.
I must be doing something wrong, because hammocks absolutely fricking ruin my back (I'm a side sleeper too). It's not so bad I wake up or anything, but The next morning I usually have back pain. Anything obvious I am doing wrong?
Nah. Hammocks just kinda curl you up. Could stretch it a little tighter so you're not as rolled up but hammocks kinda frick up my back too.
Good to know. Thankfully I sleep on my foam egg carton mat + inflatable pad combo like a king, but it is more weight and volume to carry I admit. Just a shame because the concept of a hammock+tarp appeals to me so much but the sleep I get is much worse personally.
You are getting trolled.
They're supposed to have a fair bit of sag and you're supposed to lie diagonally i them. Yours was most likely
1. too small
2. set up wrong
Find someone who sleeps in a hammock regularly and ask them to set one up for you and show you how to use it so that you can try a properly sized and hung one.
consoom. Haven XL
Wish that was realistic for me, but there aren't really any trees here on the tundra.
Double sleeping pad is what works here, single foam pad won't shield you from the rocks, and doesn't insulate enough in winter.
Just inflatable increases risk of puncture, and all insulation helps in winter.
Did enough super minimalist survival shit when I was in the military, now I want at least some comfort when PrepHole.
sleeping on your side in a hammock sounds very uncomfortable
Hammock sleeping positions are not a 1:1 translation of bed sleeping positions since you are suspended in a sack that supports you from all sides rather than lying on a surface.
I'm a side sleeper at home but in a hammock I lie in some hybrid side/back position and let my head roll to the side.
It forced you to sleep on your back.
Trust me anon, as a lifetime side sleeper I know your pain. I would spend hours researching technique on how to force myself to learn to sleep on my back, stuff like sewing tennis balls on the side of my shirt and such.
But a hammock fixed it right away, it just feels so natural. I can sleep on my back or my side now.
Seconding hammock. Cured my sleeping pad woe.
fellow side sleeper here, hammocks can be good but you can also wake up with a very achy lower back. they're also conspicuous and you have limited setup options. so maybe you should just invest in a more comfortable pad like I'm going to. I like mixing up my shelters so I sleep on the ground a lot, but my current pad belonged to my dad and is very old and thin and shitty.
>I'm a side sleeper and I have such a hard time sleeping out
I have been trying to train my body at home to back sleep but I'll always wake up on my side
What a gay he is
At least this guy actually walks to places.
Most outdoor youtubers seem to exist only to shill you gear.
>Most outdoor youtubers seem to exist only to shill you gear.
Yeah, channels with nothing but glorified commercials. I hate that I can no longer tell apart whether someone actually likes a product, or whether they've been given money to shill it
Which one, the pedo or the sales goblin?
The problem is you can only get so much content out of "I walked along this trail", and so must necessarily pivot to gear reviews if your channel is to stay alive. Because there's always new gear coming out, it generates clicks and controversy (TRAIL RUNNERS vs HIKING BOOTS: WHICH IS BETTER??) and can easily pivot to shilling in order to make an income off your channel.
At the end of the day hiking is a pretty boring "sport" for spectators. Hard to make content from it.
All very true.
I only watch hiking shit for gear reviews, it's otherwise boring as shit.
If I want to buy a tent, I will try to find a few worth considering, then I look at videos for those specific tents on youtube.
Some things are hard to see just going by some pictures and the description.
Can it be pitched fly first, for example, you can guess based on pictures, but with videos you can know before buying.
I don't mind "here's what I think about this item I've used for years" but a lot of it seems to be "today we're going to be comparing these 5 brand new sleeping pads from leading manufacturers and I will not have anything bad to say about any of them only recommend them for different uses".
I don't mind the gear reviews, but I want ones where some autist complains about having a YKK 5 zipper instead of a YKK 8. Check out this review that spends 5 pages demolishing the Mont Austral: https://maps.bushwalk.com/magazine/edition/201804/pages/64/69. It's not necessarily correct on every point, but even reading the review teaches me about what to look for in a jacket.
i don't backpack, but on family camping trips i've started using some really nice pads imported from eastern europe, they usually have an etsy site. I got a super nice sleeping pad filled with high quality wool batting with a washable linen cover. It's a bit heavy but who gives a frick? Backpacking is mostly a larp activity anyway. I have school age kids and a mortgage, I just want to go sleep outside for a week and drink beer.
Not every one is a lazy homosexual like you
sleeps better and enjoys his outings more than
guaranteed
you're saying that camping next to a car is a different experience than walking a couple days into the back country?