On a manually operated gun they are a no-brainer.
On an automatic they can be a pain because gas tuning (for gas guns) and boosters (on pistols).
The problem is with all the people trying to make them work with 5.56 SBRs.
I mean this idiot tries to suppress 5.56 short barrel and still has to wear hearing protection and get inferior ballistics and his gun isn't even short anymore.
It's not a pain at all to tune automatics for cans, for an AR it's as simple as getting it down to 1 of 3 buffer weights and for pistols with the Browning tilting breech action (read; the incredible vast majority) it's as simple as just...buying a booster.
Suppressing SBR ARs makes them far more bearable to shoot for the user as well as anyone else who is even near him, and while it's extended as a result of the suppressor it's still not as long as a non-SBR'd AR with a can.
The real kicker in your comment though is >still has to wear hearing protection
since this implied a complete ignorance of the point of suppressors, especially for rifles with small, high-velocity rounds like 5.56.
Basically you don't really know what you're talking about and have little, if any, experience with the topic at hand. But, here's your (you) regardless.
>Suppressing SBR ARs makes them far more bearable to shoot for the user as well as anyone else who is even near him, and while it's extended as a result of the suppressor it's still not as long as a non-SBR'd AR with a can.
I'm pretty sure the point he was implying was you're better off with just a normal 16" rather than an SBR and can. An SBR 5.56 with a suppressor still isn't going to be close to hearing safe and it largely defeats the point of an SBR.
Sure there's use cases for an SBR with suppressor, but for just a generic rifle, it's a meme and I do think OP is right in that a lot of content about them is just for the sake of content since it breaks up the monotony of reviewing marginally different ARs. Same thing with NVG IMO.
A 16" w/ no can is markedly more loud than an SBR w/ a can, and has a lot more muzzle blast and flash. It makes my hog culling a lot easier and it's much more polite to my neighbors. I do not understand why people in this thread don't grasp this.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>attention span ruined by tiktok to the point he can't read past 2 sentences
many such cases
2 months ago
Anonymous
I don't bother to read too much into poorcope.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Black person you are being an butthole in this thread. All of your points are ad hominem attack or just red herrings, go back to tiktok yourself unironically.
>An SBR 5.56 with a suppressor still isn't going to be close to hearing safe and it largely defeats the point of an SBR.
povertygays pretending that a 10.5" with a 5" can is some unwieldly musket and that 16" is unwieldy and the added functionality of a can does absolutely nothing even in a basic range setting will never not be funny
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Yeah but short 5.56 guns are dumb. >shit terminal ballistics >cuck brace or suck off the ATF >no place to comfortably place your support hand unless you're a manlet >less reliable / accelerated parts wear
They only make sense for room clearing and looking cool.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Is this bait?
2 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know about the support hand thing but he is right about all of the other points. If you want to buy one go ahead but if you're only going to buy one carbine you should get something with greater utility. Which means something other than whatever SBR some tacticool guy is shilling on Youtube this week.
2 months ago
Anonymous
This whole thread is poor people cope, so you do the math.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Only a little. I'm right. But I only bring it up to annoy people who are insecure about the length of their barrel.
2 months ago
Anonymous
With poors it's usually just impotent coping. Don't try to understand them, just laugh at them.
Well, they do have to deal with that shit, it's just up-front to get the gun in the first place instead of the in the US where it's relatively easy to get the gun but the suppressor is a bigger PITA.
Also in some places suppressors are legally mandated for hunting to reduce noise pollution. They view suppressors as a safety device rather than muh super secret James Bond magic assassin tool.
>Well, they do have to deal with that shit, it's just up-front to get the gun in the first place instead of the in the US where it's relatively easy to get the gun but the suppressor is a bigger PITA.
Finnish gun laws are ass these days but it's still easier and faster to get a gun + can combo here than it is in the US
>very cheap
The shitty ones are and some could tries do ban them.
Gun store near my old job had a wipe silencer in the window for 27 EUR. No rego or papers needed, well except for the gun.
Their use is not very common outside of hunting.
Never seen one at a club shoot or a competition.
Am in US now, honestly been busy raising lil kids, haven't bought anything gun related in years or shit more than 100-200 rounds a year since I became a dad.
Hopefully they take to it when they are older so I can teach them to hazgunz.
>Is there any real reason to own one?
You litterally don't need a reason but I understand hearing preservation, reducing noise pollution, maintaining some loose semblance of parity between infantry/civilians, and looking cool are all near the top of the list.
I can shoot a lot more without pissing off my neighbors, I can hunt without earpro, and when feral hogs show up I can get more than one shot off before they run. Yes, they're fricking awesome.
it was reported in the first articles about it. He was an executive at the Bill and Hilary Clinton airport in Little Rock Arkansas.
I don't think it should be too difficult to imagine why feds would raid his house. The second sentence in this post basically tells the story.
He was raided because he was buying and selling guns as a business (pretty cut and dry he was flipping them in less than 24hr) without an FFL. He actually was well within his means to get an FFL and make it all legal, too. The raid was done at 6am and there isn't even any indication it was actually a no-knock too. People act like full on loudspeaker-and-flashing lights raids are executions, anyways, like that dumbass in Iowa who said he'd kill Biden when he visited.
I know you're trying to imply a Clinton gun running conspiracy here anon, but he did infact sell these at gunshows in Arkansas to CI's multiple times and didn't leave the state as the ATF tracked him. He traded in regular semiautos and ARs.
These threads are a better notification for a hop upload than youtube itself. Like clockwork whenever I see his face I check youtube and a new video is up.
>suppressors on rifles/carbines "long guns"
No brainer. Virtually no downsides >suppressors on handguns
Meme tier. Almost no practical applications.
"But what abou-" >using a pistol for home defense >ishygddt
Because You need auto shotguns akimbo with tubes staggered with slugs and buckshot, otherwise you're NGMI. You will never realistically open doors in your house and invasions occurring at night is a fantasy taught to you by Hollywood. Don't you know anything, anon? >inb4 what about blowing out muh baby's eardrums
Only noguns think that firing guns inside small enclosed spaces causes hearing damage. Your baby will be fine and won't even remember it.
I do, but it doesn't help as much as you think. bone conduction of loud rifle shots (such as braked 300WM) means that the sound doesn't go through your ears, it goes through your skull.
>he's such an ignorant fricking moron he thinks you can get beyond 40dB reduction with any amount of earpro and even that requires theoretical perfection 33NRR is way more realistic
Yeah.
With the rise of PCCs they make sense. Great on an AR9 or AR45 and you get to shoot somewhere you can be alone sometimes and don't want to wear your ears.
Shooting fixed barrel firearms with a suppressor is much nicer. There's a surprising amount of violence to the user in the form of concussion, flash and bang. It's enjoyable/necessary on a tilting barrel handgun and I've never shot full auto.
...but once you have tried them on your rifles, you'll always want to shoot suppressed.
On top of that the "tactical advantage" is that you broadcast the noise less far. Your shots might be heard a 1/4 mile away instead of 2 miles away. It's going to be less annoying to your neighbors and create less noise pollution in general.
You have to be tacticool in order to be a badass Youtube star shooting all sorts of paper targets in a flash like myself. Trust me, you'll need a suppressor on your ultimate defense carbine you've spent $5000 to add all sorts of premium parts too. See this? I'm going to flip this table and shoot all of these targets I've set up really cool-like in three seconds. Trust me bro, it's totally going to be like this once the shit hits the fan and the world falls apart. Be sure to click the like and subscribe.
sling attachment.
I think every rifle should have a sling. Still looking for a suitable sling for my 553. No clue why the tavor's sling was off in that pic.
there are aftermarket methods to add a QD to a take-down pin or screw (dont recall which), but the strap I have on there is effective and just as fast, and adds less stress to the stock.
I have the sling attached when using the gun.
With how many raccoons you (used to?) have around, you should really make some nice warm hats. I've been thinking about making one myself if I ever get a surplus of pelts, especially damaged ones. They're bretty warm.
They don't really do much when you measure dB at the ear instead of muzzle, with how much faster it jams up your guns, I just keep my earpro on the nightstand. I have an osprey so YMMV.
Mine just lives on my PCC, which itself lives next to the head of my bed. If I ever have to shoot anyone (god forbid), it'd be nice to be able to do it without further damaging my hearing and without losing situational awareness. It's also just fun to shoot, although the PCC is so incredibly fricking easy to handle that I don't really shoot it anymore. The challenge of a handgun is where it's at.
>Is there any real reason to own one?
If you have a decent 22 and can buy good quality subsonics. Or if you have a large cal BP or subsonic 45 etc. On a 5.56 AR? No, sign of an absolute c**t, just like baseball caps worn backwards, tattoos or wearing body armour to talk at a camera on youtube. .
They're good for small game hunting. You can eventually get one legally for a .22 and it makes it easier to not scare off squirrels. A silenced .410 is amazing for crow.
On a manually operated gun they are a no-brainer.
On an automatic they can be a pain because gas tuning (for gas guns) and boosters (on pistols).
The problem is with all the people trying to make them work with 5.56 SBRs.
I mean this idiot tries to suppress 5.56 short barrel and still has to wear hearing protection and get inferior ballistics and his gun isn't even short anymore.
This is such an idiotic take that I can only assume you are noguns, and I don't even own any cans
>you're wrong
>no I won't tell you why
Wow I'm very convinced
It's not a pain at all to tune automatics for cans, for an AR it's as simple as getting it down to 1 of 3 buffer weights and for pistols with the Browning tilting breech action (read; the incredible vast majority) it's as simple as just...buying a booster.
Suppressing SBR ARs makes them far more bearable to shoot for the user as well as anyone else who is even near him, and while it's extended as a result of the suppressor it's still not as long as a non-SBR'd AR with a can.
The real kicker in your comment though is
>still has to wear hearing protection
since this implied a complete ignorance of the point of suppressors, especially for rifles with small, high-velocity rounds like 5.56.
Basically you don't really know what you're talking about and have little, if any, experience with the topic at hand. But, here's your (you) regardless.
The point is why doesn't he just get a 300 Blackout? Why try to cope with a turbo velocity varmint round that is inherently difficult to suppress?
you're not even trying now
He already has one
because pretending to be an action hero in cawadoody.
>Suppressing SBR ARs makes them far more bearable to shoot for the user as well as anyone else who is even near him, and while it's extended as a result of the suppressor it's still not as long as a non-SBR'd AR with a can.
I'm pretty sure the point he was implying was you're better off with just a normal 16" rather than an SBR and can. An SBR 5.56 with a suppressor still isn't going to be close to hearing safe and it largely defeats the point of an SBR.
Sure there's use cases for an SBR with suppressor, but for just a generic rifle, it's a meme and I do think OP is right in that a lot of content about them is just for the sake of content since it breaks up the monotony of reviewing marginally different ARs. Same thing with NVG IMO.
A 16" w/ no can is markedly more loud than an SBR w/ a can, and has a lot more muzzle blast and flash. It makes my hog culling a lot easier and it's much more polite to my neighbors. I do not understand why people in this thread don't grasp this.
>attention span ruined by tiktok to the point he can't read past 2 sentences
many such cases
I don't bother to read too much into poorcope.
Black person you are being an butthole in this thread. All of your points are ad hominem attack or just red herrings, go back to tiktok yourself unironically.
>An SBR 5.56 with a suppressor still isn't going to be close to hearing safe and it largely defeats the point of an SBR.
povertygays pretending that a 10.5" with a 5" can is some unwieldly musket and that 16" is unwieldy and the added functionality of a can does absolutely nothing even in a basic range setting will never not be funny
Yeah but short 5.56 guns are dumb.
>shit terminal ballistics
>cuck brace or suck off the ATF
>no place to comfortably place your support hand unless you're a manlet
>less reliable / accelerated parts wear
They only make sense for room clearing and looking cool.
Is this bait?
I don't know about the support hand thing but he is right about all of the other points. If you want to buy one go ahead but if you're only going to buy one carbine you should get something with greater utility. Which means something other than whatever SBR some tacticool guy is shilling on Youtube this week.
This whole thread is poor people cope, so you do the math.
Only a little. I'm right. But I only bring it up to annoy people who are insecure about the length of their barrel.
With poors it's usually just impotent coping. Don't try to understand them, just laugh at them.
A suppressed 5.56 isnt hearing safe but it isnt physically painful to the ears either.
what's there to say, you're wrong and you don't know what the frick you're talking about
the reasons you are wrong are so incredibly self-evident to anyone who owns guns and suppressors that explaining it to you is a waste of time
Cope
post your suppressor
truly a moronic take.
Perchance, OP. Perchance.
Just imagine if you didn't have to pay 6 gorillion dollarinos for one, but more like 60 bucks, would you not have one on every single gun you own?
Blame the paperwork + time. From what I've heard, eurogays don't have to deal with that shit so they're very cheap over there.
Well, they do have to deal with that shit, it's just up-front to get the gun in the first place instead of the in the US where it's relatively easy to get the gun but the suppressor is a bigger PITA.
Also in some places suppressors are legally mandated for hunting to reduce noise pollution. They view suppressors as a safety device rather than muh super secret James Bond magic assassin tool.
>Well, they do have to deal with that shit, it's just up-front to get the gun in the first place instead of the in the US where it's relatively easy to get the gun but the suppressor is a bigger PITA.
Finnish gun laws are ass these days but it's still easier and faster to get a gun + can combo here than it is in the US
>very cheap
The shitty ones are and some could tries do ban them.
Gun store near my old job had a wipe silencer in the window for 27 EUR. No rego or papers needed, well except for the gun.
Their use is not very common outside of hunting.
Never seen one at a club shoot or a competition.
Am in US now, honestly been busy raising lil kids, haven't bought anything gun related in years or shit more than 100-200 rounds a year since I became a dad.
Hopefully they take to it when they are older so I can teach them to hazgunz.
But we have to deal with time-consuming paperwork every time we want to buy a gun.
>very cheap
600 to 800 euros for basic models in my country (not .22 of course). But every gun id vastly overpriced, same for all gun-related gear.
>Is there any real reason to own one?
You litterally don't need a reason but I understand hearing preservation, reducing noise pollution, maintaining some loose semblance of parity between infantry/civilians, and looking cool are all near the top of the list.
excellent flash suppression
They’re fricking awesome for hunting. I don’t need earplugs when I have a can on my 308 (although it ends up being like 30 total in of barrel)
Good for not annoying your neighbors. Some calibers are quiet enough with suppressors that you don't need earpro which is great.
if you only shoot at crowded indoor/public ranges it's just a dressup thing
if you shoot outdoors on a private range or on public land then they're fricking awesome and you'll want one on every gun you own
I can shoot a lot more without pissing off my neighbors, I can hunt without earpro, and when feral hogs show up I can get more than one shot off before they run. Yes, they're fricking awesome.
Do you beed to create bew headcanon now at atf times are at an all time low?
If you hunt, big yes. Very useful.
For an AR, if you want one get one. But on the scale of importance it's below things like quality glass, a light or a sling.
whos the chick?
That tranner hop been on my mind
the most forced meme on /k/ since fym
A Ukraine thread died for this
It's a government op.
>$200/yr
>on the list
>200/yr
Wtf are you talking about?
They're not only brown they're stupid and forgot their script.
You’re already on all the lists. The Oversight Committee just revealed even more gov/corp info sharing for scary gun owners.
>"durr, dey gunna put yew onna list!"
>$200/yr
Where the actual frick do you morons get this shit from? How is a weapons board this moronic on even basic NFA shit?
it's mostly eurocucks here. They obsess about American gun laws for some reason.
>$200/yr
Who the frick started this rumor that all the dumbest gun owners I know believe wholeheartedly
it was reported in the first articles about it. He was an executive at the Bill and Hilary Clinton airport in Little Rock Arkansas.
I don't think it should be too difficult to imagine why feds would raid his house. The second sentence in this post basically tells the story.
He was raided because he was buying and selling guns as a business (pretty cut and dry he was flipping them in less than 24hr) without an FFL. He actually was well within his means to get an FFL and make it all legal, too. The raid was done at 6am and there isn't even any indication it was actually a no-knock too. People act like full on loudspeaker-and-flashing lights raids are executions, anyways, like that dumbass in Iowa who said he'd kill Biden when he visited.
Multiple guns he purchased were also recovered from biker gangs in Toronto.
yeah, I think his job is a pretty good clue as to why he didn't get an FFL. I doubt he was selling to people in his local area.
I'll also add, I'm gonna kek pretty hard when this turns into Iran-Contra 2.0 that blew up because the CIA didn't send the ATF the memo.
https://wehco.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/news/documents/2024/03/21/IN_THE_UNITED_STATES_DISTRICT_COURT.pdf
I know you're trying to imply a Clinton gun running conspiracy here anon, but he did infact sell these at gunshows in Arkansas to CI's multiple times and didn't leave the state as the ATF tracked him. He traded in regular semiautos and ARs.
>influencer
I hate that word so fricking much.
Its probably the most accurate term, better than 'content creator'
>self admission you are "influenced" by another man
anon it would be the most blatant lie if you said you were otherwise.
These threads are a better notification for a hop upload than youtube itself. Like clockwork whenever I see his face I check youtube and a new video is up.
>See replies to post
>Literal dumbasses are falling for it
I have a friend who looks like him
Do you ever think about making out with him?
Wait wtf? Its real?
It always was. You obviously don't know him.
clearly not hop, hop only has the center half of his eyebrows
Of course she's a real woman. Trans women ARE women.
babe, wake up. it's time for your weekly silencers are bad thread.
Buy into a relatively cheap hobby and then punch down at younger men
>nocanz posting their usual moronic dogshit takes
Tale as old as /k/
Too much eyebrow
It's makeup
Once you start shooting suppressed, it’s hard to go back to unsuppressed.
They just won't understand until they experience it.
So it's similar to driving a convertible, huh?
>suppressors on rifles/carbines "long guns"
No brainer. Virtually no downsides
>suppressors on handguns
Meme tier. Almost no practical applications.
"But what abou-"
>using a pistol for home defense
>ishygddt
Why is a pistol sgihtjfjty tho? You can one-hand it easily so you are able to open doors and use a light switch while staying prepared.
Because You need auto shotguns akimbo with tubes staggered with slugs and buckshot, otherwise you're NGMI. You will never realistically open doors in your house and invasions occurring at night is a fantasy taught to you by Hollywood. Don't you know anything, anon?
>inb4 what about blowing out muh baby's eardrums
Only noguns think that firing guns inside small enclosed spaces causes hearing damage. Your baby will be fine and won't even remember it.
I have minor low frequency hearing damage in my left ear despite always wearing earpro. I got some just go mitigate that and for lawn pops.
>getting a suppressor instead of just doubling up on earpro
okay
I do, but it doesn't help as much as you think. bone conduction of loud rifle shots (such as braked 300WM) means that the sound doesn't go through your ears, it goes through your skull.
>he's such an ignorant fricking moron he thinks you can get beyond 40dB reduction with any amount of earpro and even that requires theoretical perfection 33NRR is way more realistic
Yeah.
>>Is there any real reason to own one?
frick off commie homosexual
looks nothing like him but would(I am gay)
Post tummy
Exact same hairline with window's peak. Exact same nose. Exact same jawline. Exact same lips.
It's literally him
hop doesn't have lips at all.
Exactly
The person in
has normal dude lips.
The makeup is tricking your eyes
>window's peak
Humans look similar to one another?! Damn
It's literally him.
Shit guys i was late on this month's nfa payment, I gotta turn my can in now
it keeps you off the minimap
It looks like a trooned out version of Jack Nicholson
With the rise of PCCs they make sense. Great on an AR9 or AR45 and you get to shoot somewhere you can be alone sometimes and don't want to wear your ears.
Shooting fixed barrel firearms with a suppressor is much nicer. There's a surprising amount of violence to the user in the form of concussion, flash and bang. It's enjoyable/necessary on a tilting barrel handgun and I've never shot full auto.
...but once you have tried them on your rifles, you'll always want to shoot suppressed.
On top of that the "tactical advantage" is that you broadcast the noise less far. Your shots might be heard a 1/4 mile away instead of 2 miles away. It's going to be less annoying to your neighbors and create less noise pollution in general.
Imagine having to ask the government for permission to buy a supressor :DD
Americans are so cucked its almost not funny anymore
>Is there any real reason to own one?
yes
>Or is just playing dress-up?
no. its to make it quieter
You have to be tacticool in order to be a badass Youtube star shooting all sorts of paper targets in a flash like myself. Trust me, you'll need a suppressor on your ultimate defense carbine you've spent $5000 to add all sorts of premium parts too. See this? I'm going to flip this table and shoot all of these targets I've set up really cool-like in three seconds. Trust me bro, it's totally going to be like this once the shit hits the fan and the world falls apart. Be sure to click the like and subscribe.
for long range, yeah. there's a reason they put em on m110s instead of m4s.
Anyone have a bushwhACKer 36 on a mp5 or pcc? How quiet is it with subs?
Nobody has a fricking meter bro and who gives a shit what anyone feels it sounds like.
Genuinely one of the most moronic replies
>"silencers"
>almost 100 posts in reply to this shitty bait
guess grudgingly have to say pretty good troll thread
>suppressors
>any real reason to own one?
Yes. Several.
Please go leave and post your slide spam there. Thank you.
Hearing
oh yeah, it's worth it
So what's the deal with the flaming pig? Hop says it's basically a silencer that isn't regulated by the NFA.
> 0db reduction
> silencer
Hop said it has baffles in it and that it does slightly reduce the sound signature.
guns are loud. shooting without a silencer makes you an obnoxious Black person.
What's the exact purpose of the strap on the stock of the P90?
sling attachment.
I think every rifle should have a sling. Still looking for a suitable sling for my 553. No clue why the tavor's sling was off in that pic.
Interesting. I figured the p90 would just use a QD sling point instead of a whole strap over the stock.
there are aftermarket methods to add a QD to a take-down pin or screw (dont recall which), but the strap I have on there is effective and just as fast, and adds less stress to the stock.
I have the sling attached when using the gun.
Is that hole on the bottom for a second magazine?
>Year of our lord 2024
>Doesn't know that the P90 ejects it's casings through the bottom
I shiggy the diggy, niggy
With how many raccoons you (used to?) have around, you should really make some nice warm hats. I've been thinking about making one myself if I ever get a surplus of pelts, especially damaged ones. They're bretty warm.
>Black person
But doesn't the suppressed Tavor give you blackface?
They don't really do much when you measure dB at the ear instead of muzzle, with how much faster it jams up your guns, I just keep my earpro on the nightstand. I have an osprey so YMMV.
Mine just lives on my PCC, which itself lives next to the head of my bed. If I ever have to shoot anyone (god forbid), it'd be nice to be able to do it without further damaging my hearing and without losing situational awareness. It's also just fun to shoot, although the PCC is so incredibly fricking easy to handle that I don't really shoot it anymore. The challenge of a handgun is where it's at.
>Is there any real reason to own one?
If you have a decent 22 and can buy good quality subsonics. Or if you have a large cal BP or subsonic 45 etc. On a 5.56 AR? No, sign of an absolute c**t, just like baseball caps worn backwards, tattoos or wearing body armour to talk at a camera on youtube. .
bad b8
homosexuals need tax stamp money. system aint glitched. fricking gay govt frick u
begging for 200. pathetic go to work
prob donating it bidens campaign
Outside of the US it's an etiquette thing, everyone thinks you're an inconsiderate dickhead if you don't use one.
Killing homies very quietly in the library. (I don’t wanna disturb people reading)
They're good for small game hunting. You can eventually get one legally for a .22 and it makes it easier to not scare off squirrels. A silenced .410 is amazing for crow.