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This is the modern day M14 and whatever replaces it within a few years will be way better.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The world loved the FAL, they just realized their soldiers are underfed and undertrained. Only good ol' America can mandate sub 9lb battle rifl-ack what the frick USMC

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the world loved the FAL

      yeah cause pre 2000s people barely knew shit about shooting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >yeah cause pre 2000s people barely knew shit about shooting.
        this might be the most profoundly moronic statement i've read on this board in 16 years.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's unironically correct, a whole lot of people were in the military for a few years and they all got trained better than Nam and WW2 vets

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >comparing draftees to volunteer soldiers
            jesus christ this board has fallen off the deep end.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    we deserve better

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Once we find out that 4/5s of Chinese issued body armor is made of canvas and sawdust they'll fall back on the M27, keep the M250 and keep some Spears for DMR roles.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they'll fall back on the M27, keep the M250 and keep some Spears for DMR roles
      The whole point is to have a single caliber throughout the squad. Having 5.56 and 6.8 at the same time negates this entire point.
      Now your LMGs can't share ammo with your riflemen and vice versa.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your LMGs and riflemen can't share ammo anyway in a 6.8 system because one is still belted and the other mag-fed. You're not simplifying any logistics beyond the factory production line.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not as if body armor would make a difference -- the nu sig meme round can't penetrate plate without a penetrator, no different from anything else that exists.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This still baffles me. The army is literally making “the gun that woulda won Afghanistan!” cope rifle that still needs Chinese tungsten to pen Chinese armor.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I agree but must we have this thread every single day?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yes because they hit post limit and OP gets to have happy chemicals seeing it still exist on the catalogue the next morning

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yes because they hit post limit and OP gets to have happy chemicals seeing it still exist on the catalogue the next morning

      You can hide on topic threads like this and go slop up the board with your daily 50th Ukraine thread 🙂

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think I will, just to avoid b***hy losers like you

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Good, less of you tards ruining actual /k/ threads.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ruining actual /k/ threads
            >repeated discussions using repeated talking points

            LOL XM7 threads really are the modern 9mm vs. .45 threads

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No, sadly 9mm vs .45 threads are still the modern 9mm vs .45 threads.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Ukraine shill threads are ON TOPIC
              lol you wish.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Please point out where I said or even implied that

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >9mm vs. .45 threads
              There's one of those right now, they haven't evolved or gone away.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here's hoping

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >on topic
    >not spam
    I hate GT

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ever since he went full-moron his fans are more insufferable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate GT
      I hate how his videos used to be good before he joined LeviathanTribe but he's forced to make garbage now because the only way for guntubers to make money is to be DemolitionRanch knockoffs.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Personally I think it's a fine design that will likely be let down due to manufacturing defects more than anything else. I do wonder what it's service life will be, will it last nearly 60 years like the M16 or will it usher us back to the old system of rifles being upgraded every 20-30 years if not sooner? Really I think they made the mistake with banking on old tech put on life support rather than going with CT. If you ask me the Textron bid had so much room to grow, I could easily see it serving near or into the next century in one form or another

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it won't, army is gonna use these as DMR, issue M250 to replace the saw (ammo compatibility here is a meme because the mag feed on the SAW was always shit and the ammo for it is on belts anyway) and get a new model of AR type rifle, maybe even the m27 but maybe not. best chance for sig is the army adopting the MCX spear LT, the 5.56 version, there's real reasons they made it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >issue M250 to replace the saw
        I thought the M250 was going to replace both the SAW (M249) and the GMPG (M240). No reason to go with such a massive cartridge 6.8x51mm/.277fury if they're keeping the M240.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          M240 is still being kept, but the M240 also isn't in most infantry squads.

          The tip of the spear combat force will be moving to the M250 and M7 replacing the M249 and M4.

          Hell if anything they've looked at maybe getting 6.8 caliber barrels for the M240s to keep them in service longer.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >terminally online homosexuals crying about a weapon they’re never going to have to carry around for FTXs or shitty JRTC rotations
    Shut the frick up already Christ almighty how many times do you morons need to have this discussion

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, we're literally paying for it anon. All of us. We can have opinions on how our tax dollars are spent and how it will affect our military and industry duh.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOOOOOO! Don't care about starving children in Africa! You've just had breakfast!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But I don't care about starving kids in Africa

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it will be replaced with a piston driven AR derivative. Maybe they will get one of the current vaporware ideas like polymer cased or caseless ammo to work, but until we get man portable lasers we've probably plateaued rifle development.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >whatever replaces it within a few years
    It'll be replaced by the M16/M4
    It really is the M14

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It'll be replaced by the M16/M4
      Why must they fight against PERFECTION?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gun aside, why was having the same cartridge for the LMG and rifle so important? Couldn't they stick with what they had or just adopt 7.62×51 for the rifle?
    It seems to me that the US just keeps screwing over other NATO by picking a cartridge only they will use when there's a good option already in use

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      7.62 is allegedly too heavy and bulky
      It's mostly a supply thing, instead of figuring out how much of one to bring and how much of another to bring, they can just load up the truck with the same thing and call it a day

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >US adopts a rifle with future-proof caliber
        >baby duck syndrome morons can't understand that this rifle is not for a "war in 5 years", but for "war in 30 years"
        XM7 is a good system. It's time to (gradually, slowly) get rid of legacy shit like 5.56 (for frontline troops), M113 and A-10

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No not for grunts.
          >less capacity
          >carrying less mags
          >slower accurate follow up shots
          >heavier
          Good luck using fire and maneuver to assault a position or doing cqb with that moron stick. I think some other anon said a while ago they're still carrying m4s for cqb.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >this is the modern day M14
    Many people say that ... and the are completely wrong.
    M14 comparing to M1 didn't bring more range and penetration. Its opposite. M14 was somewhat weaker than M1A.

    M7 has complete overmatch against 7.62x51 in range and power, 5.56 is not even a contest.

    But people miss the point that M14 was short and weak.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >M14 was somewhat weaker than M1A.
      The M1A was the civilian M14, what you meant was the M1 Garand.
      >M14 comparing to M1 didn't bring more range and penetration.
      Ballistically the 7.62x51mm NATO was extremely similar to the 30-06 used in WW2. Most people think of modern 30-06 thats almost as powerful as .300 WinMag but 30-06 wasn't that powerful in the past (which is why they had to invent .300 WinMag).

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >whatever replaces it within a few years will be way better.
    If it isn't made by SIG it will be, gone are the days of the P226 and SIG 556.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >implying that the M14 was bad
    Peak midwit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

  15. 1 month ago
    goes in all fields

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