SHTF where society completely collapses is an unrealistic fantasy and you'd be better off prepping for the zombie apocalypse
>prepping for short periods of societal decay/collapse such as a natural disaster is okay though
SHTF where society completely collapses is an unrealistic fantasy and you'd be better off prepping for the zombie apocalypse
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Any difference between prepping for either cases?
The true zombie virus is melanin and we see this every time there's a hurricane or the democrats want to be re-elected and bring out BLM riots nationwide again, look up stories of what the demons do every time there's civil collapse. Hope you keep your guns wienered and locked buddy.
But I want to live my homesteading off grid fantasy without the ATF Honeypotting me.
Why not prepare for the inevitable balkanization of the US? There are obvious political and ethnic borders where people dont exactly get along.
but society won't completely cease to exist like most larpers make it out to be, it will just be difficult for a while
nuclear war will never happen because the powers that be understand the stakes
one is decidedly more short term and relies on the fact that society will return to normalcy within a short span, SHTF just assumes society will dissolve overnight
>nuclear war will never happen because the powers that be understand the stakes
What an impressively pseud take
with the amount of times that it could have happened throughout history and didn't throughout periods of higher global strife and acrimony, you really think it'll happen in the future?
that's the scenario that's most likely and the one I prep for: civil unrest and looting which ends up fading into nothing once the media's cause is washed over by the next thing.
>with the amount of times that it could have happened throughout history and didn't throughout periods of higher global strife and acrimony, you really think it'll happen in the future?
It hasn't even been a hundred years since nukes were invented, and half of the nuclear nations only got it in the last 50 years.
While nuclear war is unlikely in this century, it may very well be used in the future.
The world or half the world collapsing isn't farfetched. There are a lot of natural factors that can lead to it, and could easily happen in the last 200 to 400 years.
Large disaster takes longer to build up, thus the frequency is lower yet, easy to forgot yet still exists. Preparation efforts generally improve both scenarios. In the end it's problem solving with given resources, more skill more resources won't hurt.
If youre prepared for the worst then you can deal with the best. If you are prepared to be completely self sufficient in a total nationwide fubar then you can be completely self sufficient and even able to help others in a lesser fricked up scenario.
It doesnt hurt to make things as easy for yourself as possible, anlot of products will stop flowing in any kind of disaster anyways to having a failsafe for that is a big help.
No goy, don't become a self sufficient homesteader! You need to stay on the grid; consoom survival gear if you must, but stay on the grid. Saged
You stupid moron.
>air burst a handful of nukes across the largest internet hubs across the US
>load up some dumb fire rockets to detonate and disperse millions of ball bearings in orbit
>nuke a few rail hubs like Chicago, NY, etc
>nuke major power stations
Now the most powerful country on the planet has FEMA with literally no way to communicate post disaster response except by in person. That shot doesn’t get fixed quick. A smaller nation like the UK would descend into chaos if only a few large (5mt) warheads hit population centers. You so stupid dude. Humans won’t die off but we will absolutely get fricked.
>Now the most powerful country on the planet has FEMA with literally no way to communicate post disaster response except by in person.
You're moronic. They literally have so much redundant comms systems that they let boomers with Chinese radios pretend they're a part of FEMA to make sure they can communicate at any time any place.
Right. I live in Florida, shit can get totally fricked here of you get macked by a hurricane. After 2020 I'd say I'm just not gonna judge people about prepping.
of course anon, I'm a Florida man and I have resources for a hurricane and short term civil unrest. to base all of my preparation on more outlandish shit is dumb which is the point of this post
I guess that is fair.
shit like picrel gets my goose, it's fricking moronic. buy a home gym and learn social engineering, it'll get you much further than 88 thousand dollars worth of ARs that have clean brass deflectors
Your picture makes my blood fricking boil. Only because I know way too many people like this.
Lol seethe poorgays
I like having a pantry full of shit because I'd rather limit my interactions with the brain dead costco cow people that walk slowly down the middle of the road and walk into 4 ways without paying attention to anything but the shitty rotisserie chicken. Walmart people at least know to walk along the sides and watch themselves because there's genuinely dangerous morons driving through.
I have a few months worth of food prepped at all times incase I lose my job and have to cut my expenses to near-zero while I figure out getting an income stream going again.
I base my preps on four criteria
>How likely is a given scenario?
>How severe are the consequences if it does occur?
>How cost effective is it to prep for? Will putting X amount of money into prepping for a particular scenario make a difference in the end or would I get more value spending that money elsewhere?
>Is the money I spend on prepping for a particular scenario wasted if S never HTF or will I get value out of it regardless?
Yeah, of course prepping for short-term civil unrest or region-appropriate natural disasters should take priority over prepping for any sort of large-scale societal collapse but the latter is not impossible, maybe not to the extent of some Mad Max/Walking Dead fantasy but something similar to 2010s Syria or 1920s Russia? Sure.
valid points anon
Around 2015 I started to feel a small but persistent urge to prep. I started to buy additional beans and tuna cans and hoard them in clothes cabinet. Dried food, chocolate bars, nuts and fruits. Rice and noodles. I set aside a toilet paper roll off every pack. I bought guns and ammo. Cleaning products and camping gear. It wasn't much but it added up over the years. When the corona hit I bugged in and haven't left my apartment for 3 months straight. I used to laugh at toilet paper memes and watched giant lines leading to supermarket next to my commieblock.
Then everything went away. The lockdowns ended, mas mandates were lifted and I completely lost interest in prepping. I don't know if it was some kind of sixth sense or just fatigue but I no longer feel the need to get that additional can of tomatoes in my shopping cart.