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should your special forces be professionals cooly performing their job or maniacs whose blood lust becomes detrimental to the mission?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >some people picked normal stuff like the green lantern, a pirate, a tiget, the hulk, buzz lightyear
    >old mate in the front dressed as ned kelly
    >the guy at the back dressed as the fricking gingerbread man from shrek
    >the lego figure
    >the random prosthetic leg
    on second thought maybe the nsw police rejecting "help" from these guys during the siege was a good decision

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy frick i did not even notice champ in the fricking ku klux klan outfit what on earth how was this allowed
      literally any officer in the australian army should have a stroke when they see that how the frick were they doing this

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        this chap went on to become the CSM of the SOF
        in another incident a drunk SAS soldier seized a visiting female US helicopter pilots service pistol and fired it into the roof

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >in another incident a drunk SAS soldier seized a visiting female US helicopter pilots service pistol and fired it into the roof
          wasn't that asis? i vaguely recall something like that

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-27/questions-around-defence-chiefs-knowledge-of-unauthorised-bar/100166404
            >ABC Investigations has been told some SAS soldiers drank home-brew spirits at The Fat Ladies Arms, and that in one incident a pistol was discharged into the ceiling by a drunken SAS soldier.
            >A former SAS operator who was there has told ABC Investigations that the pistol was snatched from the holster of a female US Black Hawk pilot before it was fired into the ceiling in what was called a "roof pop".

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              ah ok. i swear there was an incident involving someone from sasr and an asis officer though. maybe it was mi6 idk but i swear it involved the officer being threatened by the sasr member

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>the random prosthetic leg
      that isn't random
      it is Das Boot
      a prosthetic leg taken off an Afghan civilian killed by an SAS soldier
      the SAS kept it as a memento and people would drink out of it at parties at their unit bar, The Fat Ladies Arms
      allegedly senior officers joined in

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >taken off an Afghan civilian killed by an SAS soldier
        Truly the VDV of the west

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thats pretty much a clear sign unit discipline is poor. Aussie infantry always seemed professional to me. What the frick happened to their SAS?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >What the frick happened to their SAS?
          Hubris. They were the hardest of hard c**ts and they knew it, and those who should have reined them in thought they were good lads who could do no wrong.

          >go to do a test fire before stepping off
          >patrol commander has us do a full range safety brief
          >in the time he does this 3 bushmasters full of SF roll up to the firing point, test fire and frick off.
          >they didn't even clear the range with the PTIDS camera
          Every c**t laughed. The next day they did the same with a mortar test fire and killed an 8 year old picking up scrap.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The next day they did the same with a mortar test fire and killed an 8 year old picking up scrap.
            Uh... Not cool bro.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              This was in 2012 when they were getting up to the worst of their shenanigans.
              The 'range vultures' were there from the crack of dawn picking up any scrap metal from mortars and 40mm left on the test fire range. They'd bring picnic blankets and lunch in between shoots. They did this every single day. I'd put money on no c**t getting so much as a ROC for that kids death.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They'd bring picnic blankets and lunch in between shoots.
                Wait that was in Australia?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like Afghanistan.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Afghans using picnic blankets and lunching between shoots

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Afghans do that. They put a mat on the floor and bring naan for lunch.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and killed an 8 year old picking up scrap.
            wtf

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They were the hardest of hard c**ts and they knew it
            It sounds more like they were given free reign to be dickheads

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              it sounds like the actual hard c**ts retired or left, so the unit culture changed from "dude walked 300 km through the desert with 10l of water? yeah i know greg he's a great bloke" to "hey take a swig out of this c**t's fake leg"

              i've seen similar stuff with american special forces actually

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                elaborate?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                there's a brilliant article about the navy seals turning from an elite special forces unit into a bunch of psychopathic murderers

                it got so bad they were forbidden from having beards, did you know they had an obsession with scalping people, cutting their hands off, and osama bin laden never had a photo of him released because the seals who shot him deliberately "canoed" him, aka shot him through the top of the skull so it makes a canoe shape?

                https://theintercept.com/2017/01/10/the-crimes-of-seal-team-6/

                >According to two senior SEAL Team 6 sources, however, the leadership dynamic in Blue Squadron was a failure. By 2007, the command’s leadership was aware that some Blue Squadron operators were using specialized knives to conduct “skinnings.” Using the excuse of collecting DNA, which required a small piece of skin containing hair follicles, operators were taking large strips of skin from dead enemy fighters.

                >One telling illustration of what had gone wrong with Blue Squadron occurred on December 17, 2007, duringa raid in Helmand province. Slabinski hadtold his operators that he wanted “a head on a platter.” Although some of the more seasoned SEALs took the statement metaphorically, at least one operator took Slabinski at his word, interpreting it as an order.

                >Later that night, after Blue Squadron’s assaulters had successfully carried out the raid, killing three or four armed men and recovering weapons and explosives, Vasely and Slabinski conducted a walk-through of the compound. Vasely, who was wearing night-vision goggles, looked through a window and saw one of his operators, his back turned, squatting over the body of a dead militant. Vasely later told investigators he saw the operator moving his hand back and forth over the militant’s neck in a sawing motion.

                >the operator had severed much of the dead man’s neck.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                SEALs do it for a more cynical reason; book deals and commercialization. Feels like every one of those frickers willing to talk about their experience wants his face plastered on a box of Pop-Tarts, performing "bad-ass" deeds to secure a rep'.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >pop tart boxes have pictures of a man holding a severed head
                wut

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is why military coups never work

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                the coups work
                the governments dont

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                JSOC would do raids on the flimsiest of pretexts
                like an unverified informants say-so that there was a taliban meeting somewhere
                and after they finished shooting the place up they'd find in fact it was the home of a loyal local police commander and there had been no such meeting
                and then they'd try to dig the bullets out of the walls and bodies to cover it up
                Find, Fix, Finish was a big mistake
                Operator =/= Intelligence Analyst

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Find, Fix, Finish was a big mistake
                tell me you have no clue what you're talking about without telling me
                >Operator =/= Intelligence Analyst
                no shit, that's why every strike force had intel analysts doing the targeting, not operators, lmao

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >When the topic of conversation came around to ways of defeating the bombs, everyone was in agreement. "They would have charts up on the wall showing the insurgent cells they were facing, often with the names and pictures of the guys running them," Rivolo remembers. "When we asked about going after high-value individuals and what effect it was having they'd say, 'Oh yeah, we killed that guy last month, and we're getting more IEDs than ever.' They all said the same thing, point blank: '[O]nce you knock them off, a day later you have a new guy who's smarter, younger, more aggressive and is out for revenge.'"
                come at me bro

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The SEALs and the Marine Raiders have huge problem with drugs, theft, and murder.
                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/25/tony-dedolph-sentenced-prison-death-us-green-beret

                https://news.usni.org/2021/07/02/marine-raider-found-guilty-of-involuntary-manslaughter-in-death-of-green-beret

                https://sofrep.com/gear/adjust-target-marsoc-marines-caught-running-a-tactical-gear-contraband-gig/

                https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/navy-seal-admits-drug-smuggling/story?id=23560846

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              that is exactly what it was. Plenty of people knew about it, when I was in we knew it was going on. Just nobody really talked about it, Nobody in charge over there telling them to pull their fricking heads in just let them think it was okay.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >When people are treated that way and see no standards are enforced, guess what they're gonna do?

          Judging by what Friendlyjordies on Youtube talks about Australia is one of the most comically corrupt developed countries on Earth. I mean Christ above the shit you guys get up to down there makes us burger look like paragons of justice and decency. I miss when you guys were just the chaotic shitposters with the great accent and lads like Steve Irwin.

          And that is just contemporary Australia. Read about historical examples like Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersens 20 year police state in Queensland

          Ah so it's all sorted out now then?

          Yes games now have an R rating

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao has anyone else spotted the guy in blackface yet?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        more than one

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You really didn't bother to mention the KKK member with the giant fricking burning cross?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i did in the next post, but you know the experiment with the two people throwing the ball? i got so attached to the gingerbread operator that i missed the ku klux kommando

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They forgot to blur the guy directly above the Gingerbread mans head. He's totally uncensored. Also part of a guy's face right behind Hulk's arm (the one raised higher than the other)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      they didn't forget, thats BRS

      https://i.imgur.com/QEGIRbr.jpg

      They're still some of the most deadly and effective tier 1 units in the world so leave them be. If this is what they have to do to unwind and keep doing what they do, so be it. Also who gives a frick about a few dead Afghans? How many civilians did the US military murder over there?

      >Also who gives a frick about a few dead Afghans?
      Their families and village?
      Who might decide after the murder to help the Taliban in revenge?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So no one who matters cares, got it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it doesn't matter that it turns the population against us

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >2 more weeks and the islamic medieval shithole is going to become a flourishing liberal democracy
            The game was rigged from the start anyway

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            peak kissinger

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            talisman was going to ape out no matter what you did and they actively terrorized the locals into obedience whenever someone showed signs of resisting. Like killing entire families from babies to elderly

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who is BRS?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ben Roberts Smith
          An SAS soldier who was accused of committing a variety of crimes by media stories about the SAS in Afghanistan
          He sued them for defamation
          And they successfully proved the truth of all their claims

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did he do cool shit?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              if you think its cool to tie a persons hands behind their back and then kick them off a cliff
              and machine gun an elderly man in the back
              and bully fellow soldiers who dont want to participate in your crimes
              and beat up a girlfriend

              Why was he too good to dress up?

              his disguise was as a homicidal maniac

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Like Spartan kick him? All that is based.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why was he too good to dress up?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            is this the psychopath who has the podcast where he basically brags about killing civilians in afghanistan?

            the aussie SAS is full on psychotic. total breakdown of discipline

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              That is another guy, and was in 2nd Commando not SAS

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What's his name?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                saint_scojo on instagram.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        1 death is a tragedy, 1 million is a statistic. the US killed 100s of thousands of innocent people in the ME with area weapons. what you have to ask yourself, is how big a deal a few deaths is really in the grand scheme of things

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          those deaths turn the locals against you and aid the enemy

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Part of thebpoint of going into Afghanistan was to have a forever war so they could funnel money into the MIC.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            nearly everything the coalition did turned the locals against them - which was the point. it was never about winning, it was about money, drugs, guns, and sex slaves. it was a money making operation, not a war. the more people they pissed off, the longer it dragged on, the greater the profit. special forces soldiers are SUPPOSED to be amoral steroid freak drug addict thugs who will shoot whoever they're told to. that's their job.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok general westmoreland

          Its funny because mad dog mattis saved iraq precisely by clamping down on this idiotic shit

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mattis is a homosexual and people worship him for no reason.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did you not notice the fricking box around the unblurred guy? The image was made to show he was in attendance.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're still some of the most deadly and effective tier 1 units in the world so leave them be. If this is what they have to do to unwind and keep doing what they do, so be it. Also who gives a frick about a few dead Afghans? How many civilians did the US military murder over there?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ripley's believe me or don't, but i know some "secret" stuff about the inquiry which i won't go into but you have no idea how fricking juvenile the behaviour was. think of CoD kiddies in a gulf war 2 era modern warfare lobby masquerading as special forces.

    ultimately it's the command that's responsible. soldiers are always gonna be soldiers, that's why they have officers. but the officers were more interested in getting through their posting and not making waves at ADF Incorporated Pty Ltd and getting dat promotion.

    frankly everyone involved should be shot tbh. in 1945 australia sent 3 judges to japan to preside over war crimes tribunals and we executed a lot of japs who didn't do shit half as bad as what happened in afghanistan. but this nation is so fricking servile that you can't even strip a medal from an actual war criminal, let alone hold them accountable.

    the actual war criminals are reprehensible of course but it's the officers who knew and did nothing who are really at fault. you don't blame a dog, you blame the handler.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      worse than whats in the Brereton Report?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        more of the same but twice as moronic. they're not covering up the crimes but they are covering up the scandal. they use weasel words like "command disinterest" so they don't have to say what command disinterest actually looks like, which is a corporal overriding, bullying, and giving orders to a major and nobody giving a frick about it.

        the unit basically completely disintegrated. lunatics running the asylum.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >so they don't have to say what command disinterest actually looks like, which is a corporal overriding, bullying, and giving orders to a major

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in 1945 australia sent 3 judges to japan to preside over war crimes tribunals and we executed a lot of japs who didn't do shit half as bad as what happened in afghanistan.
      the most important precedent from that is the Yamashita Principle that should be applied as high up the chain as possible
      >but this nation is so fricking servile that you can't even strip a medal from an actual war criminal, let alone hold them accountable.
      muh diggers doin the hard yards protecting freedums

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why won't you go into it? It's anonymous.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        Come on mate, you can give us more than that without compromising yourself. Spit it out then, ya c**t

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          fine. me brother served in his unit
          hes one of the unnamed persons who testified against him
          he bullied me brother too and told him hed put a bullet in his head if he didnt get his "thumb outta your arse" and improve
          so me brother reported him
          and the psychotic c**t denied it
          made me brothers life a living hell he did

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao do Australians say "me" and "arse"? Sound more like wienerney British to me

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              He's trolling anon. He read that from Wikipedia lol.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                there were a bunch of bullying accusations
                and for all you know he is the brother of that one who made the claim
                dont bully him out of telling us

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Aussie chef here
              I work with people who will say shit like "aww shit I forgot to turn me friers on!" 5 minutes before service
              I dont know if it is wienerney descent but it is associated with lower education

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It might be a regional thing
                Maybe you razzle dazzle sydney drongos think you're too good for it.

                I remember being at school and a teacher told a kid he should say "my" instead of "me" and the kid said "but that's what me dad says"

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >so me brother reported him
            >and the psychotic c**t denied it
            >made me brothers life a living hell he did
            that sort of thing on deployment would be incredibly tough
            first you're trained from the start to to follow orders and be part of a unit and look after your mates
            but then you encounter this shit and so get over everything you've been taught about being a bloke and you make a report
            and then you go back out
            with the guy
            and his mates
            you're in the middle of nowhere
            alone
            they're armed
            and you're all alone

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah regardless of if that anon was trolling that incident did happen to someone who testified to the court about it. I can't imagine being in that situation... Honestly whoever the unnamed party who recommended the guy tell on him at the time is a fricking moron and the guy is lucky BRS didn't make sure some accident happened to him

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Honestly whoever the unnamed party who recommended the guy tell on him at the time is a fricking moron and the guy is lucky BRS didn't make sure some accident happened to him
                If a second person recommended he report it he should have made one too

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                According to Wikipedia at least, the guy made the decision to report after another party told him he should. No clue if the other party witnessed it or was simply related the story

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                tbh the german approach is probably best, disband the unit, take the actual human beings out of the old one and use them to form a new unit
                they tried to placate everyone by disbanding one squadron but imo the entire unit needs to go at this point

                Under what law? You Down Under homosexuals have no kind of freedom of speech?

                oh mate you have no fricking idea how bad it is

                Aussie chef here
                I work with people who will say shit like "aww shit I forgot to turn me friers on!" 5 minutes before service
                I dont know if it is wienerney descent but it is associated with lower education

                yeah nah this c**ts just a wet rag all of me mates talk like that mate

                >yeah, but if we're recruiting soldiers from infantry battalions to build a super-unit of men that are capable of being deployed in small groups and doing super secret shit i think we should check that they aren't immature little c**ts
                oh i definitely agree. i'm not saying that enlisted men shouldn't be held accountable because they're just too dumb to know right from wrong or something.

                >threw the book out in disgust the shit coming out now does not shock me if that was the standard for sasr
                it's a problem for any organisation like the SASR or other elite organisations. anything glorious attracts the glory-seekers, and as they accumulate the actual normal people start to get scared off. they're like a strangler fig. the military just has a pretty unique way of this happening because you get this weird "warrior culture" that you wouldn't get at like an accounting firm.

                >and as they accumulate the actual normal people start to get scared off.
                i recall noticing this even in the guy's (biased) recollection of his career. i think he even mentioned the unit turning from a group of mature disciplined men to a bunch of glory seekers demanding missions in the years after 9/11

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What's so bad about the KSK? They like Germany? I'm unaware of them murdering any civilians.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        not anonymous to the cousins

        Like Spartan kick him? All that is based.

        a normal kick
        he was still alive but battered at the base
        so then BRS ordered another soldier to shoot him dead
        he had a habit of that, ordering new guys to execute prisoners - to "blood" them or something psychotic like that

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ordering new guys to execute prisoners - to "blood" them or something psychotic like that
          man watched Training Day too many times

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean do goat frickers really matter? Though I admit the moronic senselessness in the way he did this shit is pretty irritating

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            does his family and village getting angry and deciding to help the Taliban really matter?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, that's why he was killed, for being a partisan

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we killed him because his family wouldn't like us killing him and would turn to the enemy if we killed him

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oi, how do you know they wasn't Tallybans already innit?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        because my guy on the inside wasn't just the dude doing the filing and if i give away anything identifiable and anyone cares to dob me in shit would actually get real. there's a dude facing prison time for even admitting the ADF did war crimes at all lol. i don't REALLY know anything anyway, just a handful of anecdotes i got second hand. it's just lawyer gossip. the only difference between this and any other case that comes across my desk is that the morons were all in uniform and instead of falsifying invoices they were murdering afghanis.

        what's being reported in the media is all the criminal shit that happened. what's not being reported is all of the incredibly petty and toxic gossip girls schoolyard juvenile moron shit. the bullying, the "pranks", the hazing, etcetera. think private school rugby team kinda shit, where the teachers have like locked themselves in the staff room. it wasn't russia-tier pointless cruelty ape stuff but it was bad.

        just imagine the pettiest and most thuggish narcissistic CoD kiddie psycho pleb at your school (ben roberts-smith) taking over the high school playground with his gang of thug buddies, and all of the ridiculous animal cruelty that would result. that's the shit you won't hear about in the media, it's been buried. and the reason why it's been buried is because almost every responsible officer assigned to that unit for about a decade knew all about it and all of them either kept their heads down because they were scared of their own soldiers and just wanted the promotion or played along with it. not a single officer exercised an iota of leadership.

        personally i wouldn't be surprised if BRS was a literal diagnosable narcissist. his doomed defamation suit is exactly the sort of self-destructive behaviour you get out of narcissistic personality disorder litigants. i mean maybe the war did it to him but i doubt it. "elite warrior SASR" branding attracts that type.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          i maybe undersold the bullying by calling it juvenile. there were actual threats made and some people got hurt.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Come on mate, give us at least one funny anecdote

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Damn. Please tell me he at least didn't hurt cats. Also just going by his looks, he has the vibe of the attractive sociopath.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >his doomed defamation suit is exactly the sort of self-destructive behaviour you get out of narcissistic personality disorder litigants.
          absolutely anon, i don't know how anyone who doesn't have a personality disorder could watch a certain other person launch a self destructive legal campaign against the media and think "yeah that's for me, i want that"
          add in the wife bashing shit, like the average bogan in sydney loves the thought of soldiers kicking afghans off cliffs but wife bashing?

          >i think we should check that they aren't immature little c**ts
          the psychopathy seemed a bigger issue

          in the book i read the dude openly admitted to having lost both his mother and father, acting out (violently not just writing edgy poems), then deciding "frick it" one day and leaving the country without a plan to go surfing for a few years
          then coming back and suddenly wanting to become a committed soldier
          now i'm not saying that should bar you from being in the army (it might even be a good thing for the shit those guys do) but frick me you should be put through a battery of psychological tests and probably a few years of therapy before joining the nation's peak special forces unit

          Lmao do Australians say "me" and "arse"? Sound more like wienerney British to me

          that anon is probably shitposting but yes people do talk like that but they're generally lower class and from the bush not the kind you see here

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >there's a dude facing prison time for even admitting the ADF did war crimes at all lol.
          David McBride
          his best chance is his defence convincing the jury to nullify

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Under what law? You Down Under homosexuals have no kind of freedom of speech?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              theft of Commonwealth property contrary to s 131(1) of the Criminal Code Act 1995

              breaching s 73A(1) of the Defence Act 1903

              unlawfully disclosing a Commonwealth document contrary to s 70(1) of the Crimes Act 1914

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bloody oath! This bludger may end up in the Accadacca or cactus, the broly bogan. No more choccy biccy for that bruce innit

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Australia has no legally protected free speech, in the defamation trial BRS did not have to prove the allegations false as would happen in the US* it was the newspapers that had to prove their allegations true.
              (*as a public figure he would also have had to meet the additional challenge of proving 'actual malice' on the part of the newspapers, that they knew what they were reporting was wrong or acted recklessly in not verifying)

              But even in the US your 1st Amendment wont protect you from violating Classified designated secrets, which is what McBride did.
              It can protect the media though.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Australia sounds gay kind of. Don't they have strict censorship laws on game too? I know you can just frickin pirate any banned PC game but still

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                At the time of postal etc we didn't have a rating for video games above r18, so a few things were refused classification and couldn't be published. Just a side effect of old boomer designed rating boards being decades behind what a game could be in the 21st century. Whole thing became a meme.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah so it's all sorted out now then?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, it's been sorted for over a decade, so long even i forgot what happened - there was no r18 rating for games, only films, so games that rated adults only couldn't be published until the board updated the rules in 2011

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              our previous government (conservative party, but called the Liberals) was full blown "dindu nuffin protect the soldiers" and launched the prosecution. we have a new government now (Labor, they're socialists) who have amended the law to create a "public interest" defence, but because the whistleblower did the crime before the law was amended he can't use that public interest defence.

              the Labor government was expected to halt the prosecution when they got in (which they did for a different whistleblower) but for some reason they changed their mind.

              it's all going through the courts and i trust our courts to be fair, but at the same time i sure as frick don't like the idea of secret trials for people who report actual fricking war crimes. and the whistleblower DID report it internally first, too, and the inspector-general of ADF did literally fricking nothing. why is he not being charged with some sort of criminal negligence?

              the whole thing is a complete fricking disgrace, but that's what you get from my-country-right-or-wrong "patriotism" that conservative politicians trot out at election time.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Labor, they're socialists
                Would a socialist party propose to build a sports stadium in a state desperately in need of public housing?
                Labor hasn't been socialist since like the 1950s
                They are today the neoliberal party
                They make some nice sounding statements about inclusion and diversity - and then sell public assets, cut public services, and give taxcuts to the rich

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah when i read it back i thought ehhh they're really more trade unionist than actual socialists.

                you're right that Labor is doing some really dumb shit right now but the strategy is a steady hand at the wheel (aka do nothing) in the first term, win a second term on a "moderate reform" agenda, and then hopefully a third and fourth term to cement the reforms and do something more significant.

                you can tell that Labor really wants to go full mask off class war now because the entire fricking party except for Albanese will happily tell you in every interview that they want to scrap the tax cuts, rape property investors with new taxes, nationalise gas industries etc. and the only thing holding them back is Albanese saying "but we promised we wouldn't... in THIS term of government, muhahaha!"

                on the one hand it's a high risk strategy and they're letting a lot of bad things happen to keep some stupid promises. on the other hand, we just had 10 years of Liberal government and it was a disaster. i dunno how many more Liberal governments this country can survive with the absolute state of the Liberal party at the moment. the Labor party won big off the back of making promises to traditional Liberal voters that they could vote Labor without worrying about their tax cuts and negative gearing, and i think Labor is desperately committed to keeping its promises so that it can keep those voters for at least the next election, and maybe the next two elections.

                it's a raw deal but them's the breaks. and hey, the Liberal party might literally go breasts up and just fricking die in the next 10 years if it can't sort out it's internal divisions. which Dutton seems to be doing by taking the approach of "if we force out the moderates there's no more divide!" which really, unironically, i think, could kill the party if he succeeds at it. it might be Labor vs Greens for the rest of the 21st century.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you can tell that Labor really wants to go full mask off class war now because the entire fricking party except for Albanese will happily tell you in every interview that they want to scrap the tax cuts, rape property investors with new taxes, nationalise gas industries etc.
                nobody has ever said that
                they just had on Q&A a Labor MP that was arguing to preserve negative gearing and owned 7 investment properties

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you tell me he didn't hurt cats? Please.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                He only fricked up dogs

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Judging by what Friendlyjordies on Youtube talks about Australia is one of the most comically corrupt developed countries on Earth. I mean Christ above the shit you guys get up to down there makes us burger look like paragons of justice and decency. I miss when you guys were just the chaotic shitposters with the great accent and lads like Steve Irwin.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Friendlyjordies is a dodgey little c**t rag and will gets wats coming to him. Only Yanks find him funny

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Regardless of what you think of his humor, you can’t deny he exposed an entire shady part of Australia that hardly anyone had any idea of, let alone non Aussies.

                the video where he talks about asking some questions in a rural town and then being pulled over by the cops is completely accurate

                That stuff was pretty surreal.

                Americans can't admit they have one of the least corrupt countries in the world.

                Lets not get too far here, we got plenty. But its almost all just money going here or there, dinner parties and all that, not whole gangs of paid off goons firebombing people’s houses or a guy like Barilaro just sicing a whole anti terrorist task force to arrest an employee of a reporter in his own home just because said reporter said some funny words about him online, to name just two examples.

                Did you see what happened in Melbourne with the lockdowns and police cracking skulls? Holds the world record for longest locked down city and the state still voted overwhelmingly for Dan afterwards

                The lockdowns where they had whole internment camps that people had to pay just to get sent to said enough, but I had no idea just how bad it all got below the surface. I will say this though, as much as I b***h about shit going on here in the states, I’ll always keep it in the back of my mind that things could be so much worse even compared to other developed countries. Because holy frick some of these things are just cartoonish.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                the video where he talks about asking some questions in a rural town and then being pulled over by the cops is completely accurate

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                How about drugs? Is weed legal? It is now in my state in the US, feels good. What about hard drugs? Is meth as ubiquitous as it is here? Shits everywhere you go and hella cheap. So is heroin nowadays though raw powdered fentanyl is more common. Also more potent and also hella cheap.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Weed isn't, unless it's medicinal, which is pricy but easy enough to get, just hit up a telehealth service and tell them you have anxiety/insomnia/sore back.
                Meth is everywhere, especially out in the country because there usually is frick all to do.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seems like meth is like that everywhere, especially in rural areas, at least in Western nations. I partake sometimes, can be awesome for creative types of you're into making art or music, or for getting through tough work. I never smoke the shit though, I prefer not destroying my teeth

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why not do something a bit tamer like Adderall?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's mostly meth, booze, and the pokies out my way.
                Hate to see it, but the state govs really don't give a shit about anything unless it's a marginal seat and an election's coming up.

                Regardless of what you think of his humor, you can’t deny he exposed an entire shady part of Australia that hardly anyone had any idea of, let alone non Aussies.
                [...]
                That stuff was pretty surreal.
                [...]
                Lets not get too far here, we got plenty. But its almost all just money going here or there, dinner parties and all that, not whole gangs of paid off goons firebombing people’s houses or a guy like Barilaro just sicing a whole anti terrorist task force to arrest an employee of a reporter in his own home just because said reporter said some funny words about him online, to name just two examples.
                [...]
                The lockdowns where they had whole internment camps that people had to pay just to get sent to said enough, but I had no idea just how bad it all got below the surface. I will say this though, as much as I b***h about shit going on here in the states, I’ll always keep it in the back of my mind that things could be so much worse even compared to other developed countries. Because holy frick some of these things are just cartoonish.

                Yeah, it's fricked down here, but most people like to have Daddy gov tell them how to think/feel about everything.
                You kinda get used to the dread, but not all the time.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can just dabble in meth? Also why not just do psychedelics for the mind expanding stuff?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not yet but there are moves to legalise it and most "smoke shops" have bongs and grinders sitting on full display in the window and police dont bother them because they dont rate it as worth their time unless you make a nuisance of yourself
                >What about hard drugs? Is meth as ubiquitous as it is here?
                When I visited Warrnambool just before lockdown I was a bit surprised to see a lot of public billboards and roadsigns up advising people about ice, that there is help available, look after loved ones with problems, etc
                Maybe a country/rural issue?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Is meth as ubiquitous as it is here?

                It's worse, Australia is the meth capital of the southern hemisphere, it's literally higher meth use than every third world country below the equator

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based

                Why not do something a bit tamer like Adderall?

                Doesn't get you off like snorting a fat rail or shooting it. You're high as a goddamn kite for days.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Americans can't admit they have one of the least corrupt countries in the world.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did you see what happened in Melbourne with the lockdowns and police cracking skulls? Holds the world record for longest locked down city and the state still voted overwhelmingly for Dan afterwards

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cause Victorian Liberals are shit
                1st campaign led by Mathew Guy: racist lying about gangs and opposing rail rennovation, oh and also Guy had lunch with a mob boss
                2nd campaign led by some gay I dont remember: I dont even remember their campaign either
                3rd campaign led again by Mathew Guy: please ignore my drunken party member who crashed into a home, and also another party member that advocates reversing the legal protections for abortion, and lets appeal to all the facebook cranks and boomers watching sky after dark who think Dictator Dan is the devil incarnate

                The reason for this, aside from being captured by religious fundamentalists and having corporate policies they cant publicly admit to, is they dont really have anything to disagree with Labor on because Labor are the neoliberal party who do similar but perhaps a bit softer corporate policies to. So what is there to campaign on but personality and image?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >makes us burger look like paragons of justice
                Please tell me you're joking.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >soldiers are always gonna be soldiers, that's why they have officers.
      yeah, but if we're recruiting soldiers from infantry battalions to build a super-unit of men that are capable of being deployed in small groups and doing super secret shit i think we should check that they aren't immature little c**ts

      >think of CoD kiddies in a gulf war 2 era modern warfare lobby masquerading as special forces.
      wouldn't surprise me i got an autobiography written by a sasr member who joined around 9/11 and he sounded like a complete fricking piece of work, histrionic woman level, before he joined the adf and it didn't sound like he improved in the years after
      threw the book out in disgust the shit coming out now does not shock me if that was the standard for sasr

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i think we should check that they aren't immature little c**ts
        the psychopathy seemed a bigger issue

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >yeah, but if we're recruiting soldiers from infantry battalions to build a super-unit of men that are capable of being deployed in small groups and doing super secret shit i think we should check that they aren't immature little c**ts
        oh i definitely agree. i'm not saying that enlisted men shouldn't be held accountable because they're just too dumb to know right from wrong or something.

        >threw the book out in disgust the shit coming out now does not shock me if that was the standard for sasr
        it's a problem for any organisation like the SASR or other elite organisations. anything glorious attracts the glory-seekers, and as they accumulate the actual normal people start to get scared off. they're like a strangler fig. the military just has a pretty unique way of this happening because you get this weird "warrior culture" that you wouldn't get at like an accounting firm.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's a problem for any organisation like the SASR or other elite organisations. anything glorious attracts the glory-seekers, and as they accumulate the actual normal people start to get scared off. they're like a strangler fig. the military just has a pretty unique way of this happening because you get this weird "warrior culture" that you wouldn't get at like an accounting firm.
          They were treated as gods to whom standards did not apply. Like being able to have their own bar on deployment.
          When people are treated that way and see no standards are enforced, guess what they're gonna do?

          tbh the german approach is probably best, disband the unit, take the actual human beings out of the old one and use them to form a new unit
          they tried to placate everyone by disbanding one squadron but imo the entire unit needs to go at this point

          [...]
          oh mate you have no fricking idea how bad it is

          [...]
          yeah nah this c**ts just a wet rag all of me mates talk like that mate

          [...]
          >and as they accumulate the actual normal people start to get scared off.
          i recall noticing this even in the guy's (biased) recollection of his career. i think he even mentioned the unit turning from a group of mature disciplined men to a bunch of glory seekers demanding missions in the years after 9/11

          That is what Canada did.
          Unfortunately 2nd Commando seems nearly as bad, see the moron with the podcast.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Unfortunately 2nd Commando seems nearly as bad, see the moron with the podcast.
            nah mate it's just a joke ya see
            i kinda gave him a pass tbh because even though he's moronic and the shit he did is reprehensible (and illegal) i don't expect an iq above room temperature from the commandos

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dude literally looks like real life Prince Charming.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Qrd?

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey Australian anons:

    What do you think of the punk rock scene there, specifically Sydney bands like Gee Tee, Research Reactor Corporation, Tee Vee Repairmann and Satanic Togas? Legitimately some of the best punk rock in the world right now, these guys are all huge in the world underground punk scene online

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Australia has a good live music scene

      Can you tell me he didn't hurt cats? Please.

      He only fricked up dogs

      Psychopaths often torture animals, play with fire, and wet the bed in their childhood

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Birthday Party is the best band Australia ever produced.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    One dude dresses up like a ghost and everyone goes loco ayayay

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just some guys having some good ol’ fun.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    BRS did nothing wrong

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He lost his defamation case

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you think?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      shouldn't that say beschädigt?

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the true purpose of the SAS and other SF killing people indiscriminately was to terrorize the population into submission and not support the Taliban then it clearly didn't work.
    There has to be an incentive besides less brutality. It's call carrot and stick, not stick and stick.

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