I love my Mossberg 702. She shoots targets when I want to, and I think if I were to shoot the squirrels in my front yard the cops would think it's an airsoft rifle. I do have to shoot it single shot because the friend that sold it to me lost the mag and the pro mags I bought don't fricking work.
No, you should get a Fletcher 11/22 receiver and build from there.
They're solid .22 selfloaders out of the box, but the big draw to the 10/22 is its' customizability. Due to how ubiquitous they are, there are a ton of aftermarket stocks, triggers, barrels, compatible receivers etc so you can set it up any way you'd like.
>No, you should get a Fletcher 11/22 receiver and build from there.
This. The stock rifle is a great plinker but by the time you throw away and replace every factory part except the receiver when chasing accuracy gains, you might as well just start with an aftermarket one to begin with.
Frick yes. They are fun as hell, cheap to shoot so you get a lot of trigger time, great for small game and pests, good for teaching newbies to shoot. They also have a huge aftermarket and are extremely simple to work on with no special tools required so they're easy to customize however you might want, whether that's something super accurate, tacticool, or whatever else you might want.
You can only use one rifle at a time as well, should have a reason to own two rifles if you already have one. Say, to arm someone else while hunting. No need to hoard things without meaning or purpose, waste of time and hard earned wages.
It is super popular for this reason, there are a ton of people with 22s, even AR 22s, and full auto MP5 22s, and 22 pistols. Not just these wooden ones. Yeah a bucket full of 22LR is enough meat for a very, very long time.
Compare the cost per round, with a clean single shot kill, to the amount of meat from certain game. 60 pounds of venison for $0.07 a round. That's a fraction of a penny per pound of meat in your freezer if you dress, skin, and clean your own game. And a firearm makes it easy compared to using a bow or spear or something of that nature.
If you want to shoot competitions with it a 10/22 is a good choice, but if you want to just pink and shoot squirrels, the cheaper alternatives are fine too.
No. Once you have real guns, unless you're squirrel hunting, you'll find .22lr to be very unfulfilling to shoot. It feels like shooting not a real a real gun.
There are exceptions, one is benchrest shooting for sub moa accuracy at and beyond a 100 yards, which can be challenging with a .22lr. The other is suppressed plinking. Suppressed .22lr's are fun because you can throw a lot of ammo very quietly and new shooters love it the most because there's no recoil and no loud noise, perfect for non-shooters.
Otherwise, a barebones 10/22 you have pictured will serve you no purpose and you won't likely enjoy shooting it, a total waste.
An unsuppressed .22lr rifle that isn't capable of sub moa, isn't fun or practical. It's just cheap to shoot.
I built my dream 10/22 myself a few months ago and it shoots .5" groups at 50 yards with CCI Standard. Heavy barrel, wood stock, cheap but good Burris 3-9 scope. The trigger has kidd internals and a paddle magazine release. Oh and I upgraded parts of the bolt. Man I really love that gun.
>I built my dream 10/22 myself >it shoots .5" groups at 50 yards with CCI Standard.
That is something I can understand. It sound fun.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, pic related is also fun. However, I don't get how someone who has an AR and a 9mm would get enjoyment out of a basic 10/22 set-up. It's neither accurate nor tacticool enough for experienced shooters to find it rewarding.
>It's neither accurate nor tacticool enough for experienced shooters to find it rewarding.
Do you really need your guns to be "tactical" to enjoy them?
I need them to be one of several things actually: >something I can EDC. >decent truck gun for self defense >backpacking gun >effective fighting weapon for shtf >extremely accurate for bench shooting or hunting >fun to plink at spinning targets with friends
The last one is where you could make an argument for a base model 10/22 but I would argue that it's inherently boring, requiring little in the way of skill development in recoil control, grip or higher level fundamentals and simultaneously offering no wow factor. I suppressed pistol that your friend who has never shot before can hit bullseyes with all day will put a smile on their face and to me is way more fun. An accurized custom 10/22 that you can chase 1 hole groups with at the range is fun. A base model .22lr is just like, "Oh boy, I managed to hit the beer can again, hee hee." I'm not saying that doesn't have it's place, I guess, but I'm over it.
If OP has sufficient rounds downrange with an AR and compact 9mm. My suggestion for next purchase would be a 5.56 suppressor, general upgrades to the AR, a revolver or second pistol. All of those options make more sense to me. A 10/22 is for easing people into shooting without them developing bad habits like flinching and recoil anticipation. I don't think OP needs that.
I built my dream 10/22 myself a few months ago and it shoots .5" groups at 50 yards with CCI Standard. Heavy barrel, wood stock, cheap but good Burris 3-9 scope. The trigger has kidd internals and a paddle magazine release. Oh and I upgraded parts of the bolt. Man I really love that gun.
I love my 10/22, first gun I bought. Only aftermarket thing i've bothered with so far is a longer bolt handle since the really small one it comes with is a bit of a pain. But that was like $15. I'll probably get a longer magazine release eventually but that one bothers me less.
Out of all cheaper .22 rifles, the 10/22 is probably the best in terms of aftermarket mags, stocks, and attachments. Don’t know how it compares reliability wise with my savage 64, but it’s probably better
What's the best of all the cheaper .22 rifles straight out of the box? Aside from a sling and probably a scope, I don't give a frick about aftermarket.
An older Marlin model 60. Those things are freaky accurate. I can't speak on the new ones.
However, the model 60 has a tube magazine and while it holds 16 rounds, it's a little annoying to reload, not bad but also not extended detachable magazine fun like a 10/22. Then again, you don't have a giant plastic magazine hanging off of it.
LOL, I just looked up the price of a new one. Apprently Ruger bought Marlin in 2020 and killed the model 60.
Anyway, I don't mean a pre-Ruger one, I mean a pre-freedom group / Remington one. A true Marlin. Those were great. I have no idea about later ones.
That pissed me off so much. I get it, they want to sell 10/22s, but I want a cheap ass Model 60 to go with my 10/22. A threaded model 60 would be cool too, Ruger.
>A threaded model 60 would be cool too
You'd have to take off the suppressor to reload it though.
https://i.imgur.com/v8wgw6l.png
LOL, I just looked up the price of a new one. Apprently Ruger bought Marlin in 2020 and killed the model 60.
Anyway, I don't mean a pre-Ruger one, I mean a pre-freedom group / Remington one. A true Marlin. Those were great. I have no idea about later ones.
I had a Marlin XT-22 that I ended up trading. Terrible decision in hindsight, it was a great little gun.
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Ah frick that's right. There are two options, though; one is copying the Colt Lightning system which no one else has done in...a hundred and thirty six years other than just to make Lightning repros? Seriously what the frick. Also my old Mossberg bolt action with a tube mag can be fed from the chamber if you hate yourself. Not really meant to do this but it does work and I don't see anything it wears out, but the only thing holding the round in place is ~1.5mm of a metal lip on the bottom of the receiver so it's finicky.
Either way, do something with the design god damn it. They were, what, $90 each? Maybe $120 on a bad day? With all the machinery being already there, frick Ruger if they just scrap it to get rid of competition to their 10/22. I know that shit takes time to move and set back up but it's frustrating knowing it probably will just be scrapped as it was quality, American made, and cheap. And wood. You don't get that much.
That's not uncommon, but easily fixable with a detail strip and deep cleaning. An anon on here used to buy and flip "shitty jam-o-matic" Model 60s all the time, and like clockwork he could get them running reliably with a little TLC.
I had a Model 60 and did the detail strip/deep clean myself and it ran great. Now that they've stopped production I regret selling it.
I've seen complaints about it online, but my Rossi RS22 (which is a Mossberg 702 rebrand, or maybe vice versa) shoots great for me, considering you can get them for under $150 new
I'm intrigued by the Winchester Wildcat, it's basically a cheap 10/22 clone. But I've never shot one myself. Somebody please buy one and report back here if it's good.
I've owned a number of Winchesters for a while because I decided that would be what I collected but them moving production to Turkey kind of killed it for me. I don't have anything against them, particulary the Kurds whom I think we fricked over pretty bad but I don't want Turkish guns.
Yeah, it's kind of a shame to slap the Winchester name on turk guns. At the very least they could do just enough of the final assembly/inspection stateside to fulfill the legal requirement to call them "made in the USA". That's what Springfield does for some of their products.
Miroku Winchesters get a pass, the ones I've seen have been gorgeous.
> I don't have anything against them
If you don't hate Turkroaches, you should. They're arrogant obnoxious people, to say nothing of their constant attempts to genocide Armenians.
Yeah go ahead.
The bigger issue here is your condition. It happens to all of us. Some call it an itch others a sickness. Here is the thing, when you really don't need a new weapon, even a stray thought can set off the fever. It's best to just get it and not fight it.
Don't forget a sling, scope and ammo, in bulk.
I've heard my whole life to not dry fire a .22.
That's the one thing I hate about my 10/22, no last round bolt hold open. The 11th trigger pull is always a dry fire.
yes there are *certain* .22s you should not dry fire but it's due to the design of the gun itself and a blanket statement like "dont dry fire ANY .22" is pure fudd.
You should get an anti materiel rifle sonny
>anti materiel rifle
only really need that for Death Claws
I love my Mossberg 702. She shoots targets when I want to, and I think if I were to shoot the squirrels in my front yard the cops would think it's an airsoft rifle. I do have to shoot it single shot because the friend that sold it to me lost the mag and the pro mags I bought don't fricking work.
This is literally the dumbest question ever. The actual question is why don't you have one?
asplain, why are they so great
Super common, so parts are easily available. Huge aftermarket. Reliable shooting. Cheap ammo so you can practice fundamentals a lot.
No, you should get a Fletcher 11/22 receiver and build from there.
They're solid .22 selfloaders out of the box, but the big draw to the 10/22 is its' customizability. Due to how ubiquitous they are, there are a ton of aftermarket stocks, triggers, barrels, compatible receivers etc so you can set it up any way you'd like.
>No, you should get a Fletcher 11/22 receiver and build from there.
This. The stock rifle is a great plinker but by the time you throw away and replace every factory part except the receiver when chasing accuracy gains, you might as well just start with an aftermarket one to begin with.
I bet you don't have a shotgun either. WTF are you doing, boy? 10/22 and 12ga are standard kit.
I find semi auto .22 rifles quite boring
I'd get a bolt action
Agreed, or a suppressed pistol.
Frick yes. They are fun as hell, cheap to shoot so you get a lot of trigger time, great for small game and pests, good for teaching newbies to shoot. They also have a huge aftermarket and are extremely simple to work on with no special tools required so they're easy to customize however you might want, whether that's something super accurate, tacticool, or whatever else you might want.
Yes. It’s the ultimate rifle for hunting small game in a survival situation and even self defense. 10/22 doesn’t get enough respect.
You can only use one rifle at a time as well, should have a reason to own two rifles if you already have one. Say, to arm someone else while hunting. No need to hoard things without meaning or purpose, waste of time and hard earned wages.
It is super popular for this reason, there are a ton of people with 22s, even AR 22s, and full auto MP5 22s, and 22 pistols. Not just these wooden ones. Yeah a bucket full of 22LR is enough meat for a very, very long time.
Compare the cost per round, with a clean single shot kill, to the amount of meat from certain game. 60 pounds of venison for $0.07 a round. That's a fraction of a penny per pound of meat in your freezer if you dress, skin, and clean your own game. And a firearm makes it easy compared to using a bow or spear or something of that nature.
What an absolutely braindead take. If it cost $6 per round the price per pound of meat is still irrelevant.
If you want to shoot competitions with it a 10/22 is a good choice, but if you want to just pink and shoot squirrels, the cheaper alternatives are fine too.
No. Once you have real guns, unless you're squirrel hunting, you'll find .22lr to be very unfulfilling to shoot. It feels like shooting not a real a real gun.
There are exceptions, one is benchrest shooting for sub moa accuracy at and beyond a 100 yards, which can be challenging with a .22lr. The other is suppressed plinking. Suppressed .22lr's are fun because you can throw a lot of ammo very quietly and new shooters love it the most because there's no recoil and no loud noise, perfect for non-shooters.
Otherwise, a barebones 10/22 you have pictured will serve you no purpose and you won't likely enjoy shooting it, a total waste.
One day when you grow up, you'll appreciate .22 again.
An unsuppressed .22lr rifle that isn't capable of sub moa, isn't fun or practical. It's just cheap to shoot.
>I built my dream 10/22 myself
>it shoots .5" groups at 50 yards with CCI Standard.
That is something I can understand. It sound fun.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, pic related is also fun. However, I don't get how someone who has an AR and a 9mm would get enjoyment out of a basic 10/22 set-up. It's neither accurate nor tacticool enough for experienced shooters to find it rewarding.
>It's neither accurate nor tacticool enough for experienced shooters to find it rewarding.
Do you really need your guns to be "tactical" to enjoy them?
I need them to be one of several things actually:
>something I can EDC.
>decent truck gun for self defense
>backpacking gun
>effective fighting weapon for shtf
>extremely accurate for bench shooting or hunting
>fun to plink at spinning targets with friends
The last one is where you could make an argument for a base model 10/22 but I would argue that it's inherently boring, requiring little in the way of skill development in recoil control, grip or higher level fundamentals and simultaneously offering no wow factor. I suppressed pistol that your friend who has never shot before can hit bullseyes with all day will put a smile on their face and to me is way more fun. An accurized custom 10/22 that you can chase 1 hole groups with at the range is fun. A base model .22lr is just like, "Oh boy, I managed to hit the beer can again, hee hee." I'm not saying that doesn't have it's place, I guess, but I'm over it.
If OP has sufficient rounds downrange with an AR and compact 9mm. My suggestion for next purchase would be a 5.56 suppressor, general upgrades to the AR, a revolver or second pistol. All of those options make more sense to me. A 10/22 is for easing people into shooting without them developing bad habits like flinching and recoil anticipation. I don't think OP needs that.
>truck gun
Opinions disregarded
I threw a binary trigger in my 22 charger. Puts a smile on my face every time I shoot it 🙂
I built my dream 10/22 myself a few months ago and it shoots .5" groups at 50 yards with CCI Standard. Heavy barrel, wood stock, cheap but good Burris 3-9 scope. The trigger has kidd internals and a paddle magazine release. Oh and I upgraded parts of the bolt. Man I really love that gun.
I love my 10/22, first gun I bought. Only aftermarket thing i've bothered with so far is a longer bolt handle since the really small one it comes with is a bit of a pain. But that was like $15. I'll probably get a longer magazine release eventually but that one bothers me less.
Out of all cheaper .22 rifles, the 10/22 is probably the best in terms of aftermarket mags, stocks, and attachments. Don’t know how it compares reliability wise with my savage 64, but it’s probably better
What's the best of all the cheaper .22 rifles straight out of the box? Aside from a sling and probably a scope, I don't give a frick about aftermarket.
An older Marlin model 60. Those things are freaky accurate. I can't speak on the new ones.
However, the model 60 has a tube magazine and while it holds 16 rounds, it's a little annoying to reload, not bad but also not extended detachable magazine fun like a 10/22. Then again, you don't have a giant plastic magazine hanging off of it.
LOL, I just looked up the price of a new one. Apprently Ruger bought Marlin in 2020 and killed the model 60.
Anyway, I don't mean a pre-Ruger one, I mean a pre-freedom group / Remington one. A true Marlin. Those were great. I have no idea about later ones.
That pissed me off so much. I get it, they want to sell 10/22s, but I want a cheap ass Model 60 to go with my 10/22. A threaded model 60 would be cool too, Ruger.
>A threaded model 60 would be cool too
You'd have to take off the suppressor to reload it though.
I had a Marlin XT-22 that I ended up trading. Terrible decision in hindsight, it was a great little gun.
Ah frick that's right. There are two options, though; one is copying the Colt Lightning system which no one else has done in...a hundred and thirty six years other than just to make Lightning repros? Seriously what the frick. Also my old Mossberg bolt action with a tube mag can be fed from the chamber if you hate yourself. Not really meant to do this but it does work and I don't see anything it wears out, but the only thing holding the round in place is ~1.5mm of a metal lip on the bottom of the receiver so it's finicky.
Either way, do something with the design god damn it. They were, what, $90 each? Maybe $120 on a bad day? With all the machinery being already there, frick Ruger if they just scrap it to get rid of competition to their 10/22. I know that shit takes time to move and set back up but it's frustrating knowing it probably will just be scrapped as it was quality, American made, and cheap. And wood. You don't get that much.
I had one of those growing up. It was trash and it jammed a lot. The 10/22 was head and shoulders above it.
That's not uncommon, but easily fixable with a detail strip and deep cleaning. An anon on here used to buy and flip "shitty jam-o-matic" Model 60s all the time, and like clockwork he could get them running reliably with a little TLC.
I had a Model 60 and did the detail strip/deep clean myself and it ran great. Now that they've stopped production I regret selling it.
If you've got a .22 with a tubular magazine, get one of these speed loaders for it:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1015314374
I've seen complaints about it online, but my Rossi RS22 (which is a Mossberg 702 rebrand, or maybe vice versa) shoots great for me, considering you can get them for under $150 new
I'm intrigued by the Winchester Wildcat, it's basically a cheap 10/22 clone. But I've never shot one myself. Somebody please buy one and report back here if it's good.
I've owned a number of Winchesters for a while because I decided that would be what I collected but them moving production to Turkey kind of killed it for me. I don't have anything against them, particulary the Kurds whom I think we fricked over pretty bad but I don't want Turkish guns.
Yeah, it's kind of a shame to slap the Winchester name on turk guns. At the very least they could do just enough of the final assembly/inspection stateside to fulfill the legal requirement to call them "made in the USA". That's what Springfield does for some of their products.
Miroku Winchesters get a pass, the ones I've seen have been gorgeous.
> I don't have anything against them
If you don't hate Turkroaches, you should. They're arrogant obnoxious people, to say nothing of their constant attempts to genocide Armenians.
Bolt action I’d go Ruger precision rimfire model# 8400.
Semi-Auto I’d go SA-22 but they’re not necessarily cheap.
Also can’t go wrong with a Henry or Winchester Lever-Action 22
Has anyone tried the citadel trakr? $130 for a bolt action .22 seems pretty cheap
They're a lot of fun you should do it
10/22 takedown with magpul backpacker stock is one of the most handy and fun rifles you can buy
No, buy based lever action, fun as frick to shoot and you feel like a real /k/owboy
Yeah go ahead.
The bigger issue here is your condition. It happens to all of us. Some call it an itch others a sickness. Here is the thing, when you really don't need a new weapon, even a stray thought can set off the fever. It's best to just get it and not fight it.
Don't forget a sling, scope and ammo, in bulk.
I've heard my whole life to not dry fire a .22.
That's the one thing I hate about my 10/22, no last round bolt hold open. The 11th trigger pull is always a dry fire.
yes there are *certain* .22s you should not dry fire but it's due to the design of the gun itself and a blanket statement like "dont dry fire ANY .22" is pure fudd.
No. Get a cmmg 22 cal conversion for the ar. Wait until the mags go on sail then buy extras. Purchase an upgraded firing pin and spring from cmmg.