>Semi-autos are gay
Then I am a gigantic flaming homosexual.
I kinda want to get a VR-80. I like AR stuff and an AR shotgun seems like it would be a lot of fun. Plus it would be easy to clean and maintain.
The benelli M4 did about as well as turkshit in the TFBtv shotgun burn down.
Beretta is the way.
>The benelli M4 did about as well as turkshit in the TFBtv shotgun burn down.
Fawning over the Benelli M4 is doing it wrong when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
The SupernovatNova and M3 are where it's at - its downright criminal how much better of a shotgun the M3 is over the more expensive 1301 that I cringe a little inside when I run into a 1301 gay
>Fawning over the Benelli M4 is doing it wrong when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
That makes me feel a little bit better.
I'm 150 rounds of birdshot in with 0 problems so far, but I'm still expecting it to crap out on me. I have a bit of a perverse desire to use and abuse it until it breaks. >t. Turknelli owner
you want the real red pill?
Shotguns in general are doing it wrong, unless you're doing clay sports or hunting, and then a nice double mogs everything. If you're wondering if the M4 is the right gun for you then more than likely what you really want is the other kind of M4, the one that shoots 5.56.
I love me some ARs, and that is what I would use if my life was on the line, but shotguns are just plain fun.
Not my pic, I have the fixed stock model. Haven't had the chance to try lighter loads through it but it shoots great in both semi and pump. Only complaint is that if you want to top off a partially depleted tube you need to hold the bolt release button down. Aside from that it's light but the recoil isn't that harsh and the trigger feels great. Granted it's my first semiauto shotgun so I don't have much of a frame of reference to how it compares to other semis
I opted for both. I already owned the Mossberg, but when Trudeau threatened an assault weapons ban, I panic-bought a 1301 just in case. Turns out the ban didn't affect shotguns anyway in the end, but I wouldn't let either of them go regardless
There's very few modern guns that don't benefit from having the machining marks knocked off. You're not getting hand fitted for less than your car's worth these days. On the plus side, it's not like it's hard.
Ya, one of the new ones Cimarron is bringing in. I've heard little about them but what I've heard has been good enough. I can say with mine, I haven't shot it yet, but it is way smoother than I thought it would be granted I've never owned a levergun before. I don't see why it wouldn't work as intended. Any faults with it have to do with the base design and not the manufacturing. My take on it until I shoot it is pretty worthless imo, but the Cimarron ones are different from the previously made chink clones so it's an open field in that regard. When I got mine gunbroker had been flooded with them so you should be able to find them now and for a decent price
It ain't about price, it's about aesthetic. Transcend your consumerist thinking, anon
>stoeger brick >aesthetic
Even though I think all that scrollwork on the fancy ones can go shove it, the Stoeger has undeniably god awful lines, which only get worse as you go down in bore size because even the 410 is built on the 12gauge receiver.
Something like an AYA No.4 boxlock with auto ejectors is about the floor of what anyone knowledgeable would call a "classy" traditional SxS. A good budget single-trigger would be something like the Tristar Bristol, which at least comes with gauge-specific receivers and auto ejectors.
>what anyone knowledgeable would call a "classy" traditional SxS
Didn't call it "classy", just said it's about aesthetic, never specified an aesthetic though. My preferred aesthetic is clearly different from yours
I am STILL looking for reasonably priced beater 870 furniture at not-$35-plus-shipping-a-piece prices.
Cabelas has their slugs and their Buckshot in a moronic location. It's on an endcap IIRC. Fricking hell I don't know why they do it. I nearly walked out when I needed some in a hurry before barely finding it.
Well spread your cheeks then and show me what you got as long as it's not $1 per like ammoseek
Lol It's not much better at Cabelas if any.
https://i.imgur.com/qlqeCMy.jpg
how does is shoot? a store near me sells one for 400 euros and I'm tempted.
>Why can i never find slugs for sale
You have to check constantly for deals. Just the other week I got 500 12ga federal slugs for I think it was 73 cpr. At most. They sell out fast.
If you like shooting slugs in volume you should be casting and loading your own. It's cheap and easy.
If you're not shooting in volume then just buy a couple of extra boxes when you do see them instead of only what you'll shoot on the day, you moron.
>be me >token straight white conservative guy at work >become friends with surprisingly based hispanic coworker >mentions he has a shotgun he doesnt use >offer to buy it for $100 >assume it's some cheap turkshit >he agrees >do the transaction after work >it's a pristine Ithaca model 37 featherweight >holyshit.jpg >it's worth way more than I payed >work buddy is just happy for the beer money
it's a great shotgun, looks beautiful, and has the bonus feature of being able to slamfire
I picked this one up around a month or so ago. I was going to buy a 28" barrel to swap in when dove season rolls around, but I'm probably just going to buy another used 500A with a 28" barrel instead. More guns more better
There is no reason to get a 28" barrel.
If that one is threaded for chokes it's good to go, if not get another barrel that is threaded, but one that's as short as possible.
Long shotgun barrels give no benifit, just downsides
As a champion skeet and trap shooter, as long as upland bird hunter, shorter barrels are superior, only old ultrafudds state the contrary(or euros who have never shot anything else)
2 months ago
Anonymous
As a 4 time champion skeet and trap shooter, the fluidity of riding the momentum of a long barrel beats out a short barrel
2 months ago
Anonymous
You don't know what momentum is apparently, and have clearly never tried a shorter barrel.
Shorter is better for clays, and much better for hunting.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You don't either I guess but whatever works for you, fakeguns
2 months ago
Anonymous
What's up with that pump on the Remington. I haven't seen anything like that before.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah seconding, wtf is that, does it have… sights? On top?
2 months ago
Anonymous
What's up with that pump on the Remington. I haven't seen anything like that before.
It's a Shockwave Industries Raptor forend.
The idea is that they go on the Mossberg shockwave or other SBS so you can grip over the bore while shooting from the hip for maximum control but gripping over bore is something I wanted for my full size shotty. It does have little plastic sights and as dumb as they look, they work being a little high because my 870 hits when hovering under the target with the bead.
A+ idea, C+ effort since the damn thing cracked after a range trip.
2 months ago
Anonymous
interesting. Thanks anon
1 month ago
Anonymous
Post your shotgun. We can watch the best competition shooters in the world and they all have long barrels. You are lying.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Depends on the purpose. My skeet gun is a 12g that has 30 and it's ok. I actually get way better breaks with my 20g Citori which has 28", and my fav for general hunting is a 26" CZ Bobwhite. It's stupid how the barrel length thing is a trend in clay sports. A guy who is 6'8" rolling a 30" barrel probably is gonna handle similar to a guy who is 5'6" running a 26"or something. I'm talking specifically o/u and SxS here. The whole thing is dumb bc a 28" semi is about the same length as a 32" o/u so you mean to tell me the semi auto guys have had this vast competitive advantage all these years before 32 and 34" o/us started getting trendy?? Gtfo
1 month ago
Anonymous
Post your competition gun with a measuring tape. I’m positive it’s closer to 28” than 18”.
The average barrel length in the Olympics is 30”. Rules don’t allow them to be over 32”. If shorter barrels were an advantage there would be a minimum barrel length standard, not a maximum.
Longer barrel doesn't mean heavier LMAO. For example go lookup a Benelli M2 weight for the 18" then the 28" barrel models. All the different models have it at the same weight and at most 0.1 pounds difference which is 1.6 ounces. I bet you think a classic M16A1 weighs more than an M4 because it has a whole extra 5.5". GTFO of here
1 month ago
Anonymous
The longer barrel absolutely makes it heavier you absolute drooling moron lol does the mass just disappear? >trusting manufacturer listed weights
Does that math not seem funny to your underdeveloped brain?
https://www.targetfocused.life/blog/brand-new-updated-benelli-m2-shotgun-review
https://bornhunting.com/a-do-all-shotgun-you-cant-ignore-benellis-m2-field/
There's a difference of 5 oz in weight between a 26" and 28" from two reviewers, way more than the 1.6oz you're claiming.
Christ, go eat a 12ga slug, that is, if you even own a gun
As someone whos probably killed more dove than this entire thread combined i can confidently say this is wrong I've hunted with 14ish 20 26 28 and 30 it very much makes a difference the 14ish is effectively a waste of time the 20 with a medium choke was alright but the other 3 put them down much better
Fwiw the issue is the tiny 8 shot they sell here is pretty marginal with 6 I might have a different opinion and I suspect with buckshot its mostly irrelevant
Do I get a Benelli M4 or a Beretta 1301 Mod 2? I heard the Beretta is the better buy since it's lighter, cheaper, and more modernized. But the Benelli M4 is the more reliable shotgun (thanks to it's short stroke dual piston system no doubt).
Pump action is gay, you're jerking off your gun and acknowledging that you're a sloppy incompetent homosexual incapable of keeping a simple machine in good working order.
Break action is not gay, you're simply establishing dominance over your gun.
>You bought the A1 version of course it’s heavier.
This.
Buying the A1 and complaining it's heavy is like driving an F350 and complaining about the mileage. The main fricking difference between the A1 and the standard 590 is that it has the heavier barrel. Why would you buy that if you didn't want the extra weight?
Price is pretty typical, the guns are OK, biggest issue is mags are really hard to find and they don't take standard length shells, though the latter problem is easy enough to deal with if you handload, and loading shotshells requires less gear than loading metallic cartridges.
Nice, that's a much better deal then. The ammo thing isn't really a big deal, get yourself a roll crimper for like $20 and you can shorten commercial ammo to work just fine in it.
Yes, though neither of those lengths are correct for the Mag-7, and they're pretty expensive and hard to find so you're much better off loading your own.
1 month ago
Anonymous
One of them'll fit and in my experience they're not that much more expensive when you find them.
Of course you're better off rolling your own, but zoomers.
Fawning over the Benelli M4 is doing it wrong when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
The SupernovatNova and M3 are where it's at - its downright criminal how much better of a shotgun the M3 is over the more expensive 1301 that I cringe a little inside when I run into a 1301 gay
you want the real red pill?
Shotguns in general are doing it wrong, unless you're doing clay sports or hunting, and then a nice double mogs everything. If you're wondering if the M4 is the right gun for you then more than likely what you really want is the other kind of M4, the one that shoots 5.56.
Statistically rifles and shotguns perform the same in real-world shootings when it comes to number of shots per stop. Yet, rifles do this with lower recoil, longer range, and higher capacity.
If you have any statistics showing it's any more lethal then by all means share them.
If you're just repeating the 'ol fudd bullshit of muh 9 pellets of 32 or whatever then STFU.
1 month ago
Anonymous
When you stop repeating the new zoomer bullshit of muh tacticool stops. Have you ever seen anything bleed out?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>When you stop repeating the new zoomer bullshit of muh tacticool stops
I'm not sure what that means.
> Have you ever seen anything bleed out?
I hunt, and I live in a rural area where pest control is a constant issue, so yeah, many times, over a period of more than twenty years. In my experience a single rifle bullet outperforms a load of buckshot nearly every time. It's not that buckshot is ineffective--it's not, it works great--the puzzling thing is when people think that it's better than a rifle, which has been the exact opposite of my experience.
Once again, do you have any sources to back up your claims or are you parroting fuddlore?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>pest control
That'll be relevant when they defund the police and we can go on hood safari. No shit dinging a fricking lamped fox in the head is the same thing no matter what you're using.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>lamped fox
I'm talking about feral hogs anon, some of which weigh a few hundred lbs. Anyway, you keep replying but you're still not sharing any data?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah sure let me just look up the 2024 Dead Black person Database. >I'm talking about feral hogs
Which you are shooting in the head (or lying about) if you think #4 and .223 will exsanguinate at similar rates.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Oh yeah sure let me just look up the 2024 Dead Black person Database.
You have to have facts to back up a claim, anon. You can't just say it's that way because it makes sense in your head or its like how shotguns work in video games. We do have real-world shooting statistics and they don't support the claim that shottys are somehow more effective.
>will exsanguinate at similar rates.
It's pretty simple, anon: with the rifle shot the hog usually drops instantly and bleeds out while unconscious. With the shotty there is no such effect, the hog runs and bleeds out while it's running. They can make it dozens of yards after a hit. Now you would think that the higher pellet count of the shotty would result in a higher chance of hitting CNS but that's not something I have seen borne out in practice.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Marshall & sannow
Lmao at your life >Shotgun means runners
Tbqh the game reactions I've seen from non magnum caliber rifles and shotguns loaded with buckshot have been very similar if you keep the buckshot range reasonable and exclude cns hits. They both usually run a bit before bleeding out with occasional DRTs but it's not the normal.
1 month ago
Anonymous
What about slugs?
t. different anon
1 month ago
Anonymous
don't engage with homosexuals, you're being baited autism anon
1 month ago
Anonymous
>s-source!?
I know you don't have one, so go buy a shotgun and watch some clint smith videos.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I've watched Clint Smith videos before. He likes to use expressions like "blows chunks of meat off people" but he doesn't cite data. I want facts, not preaching from whomever the tacticool kiddies are worshipping these days.
Black folk aren't magical and aren't bulletproof. Even a cracked out one bleeds just the same. There is zero chance tyrone survives a 75/77gr OTM to the chest, let alone two. I use a .300 blackout for HD and handload 110gr vmax. He's not surviving that.
Here's a bunch of elk being killed by .223s. But please tell me how the north american pavement ape is a tougher quarry
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/223-for-bear-deer-elk-and-moose.130488/
The problem is that a lot of those turknellis need to be replaced with benelli parts and by the time you're done you'll end up spending as much as a genuine M4. Don't get me wrong I love seeing cheaper options become viable alternatives to mainstream designs but as it is you're better off saving up and buying a genuine M4. But like you said, and I fully agree, the M3 is a fantastic gun that gets overlooked by too many buyers along with other great semiauto designs that aren't the 1301 or M4 that can be had for way less
The turkshit shotgun test is the ultimate litmus test for whether a person is capable of self-governing.
To save a few bucks more for a real shotgun is an easy, convenient task and one which we all recognize as the correct, appropriate thing to do.
To save up money for a functioning shotgun is objectively right.
There are no situations other than dire emergencies in which a person is not able to save up for something better.
Simultaneously, it is not illegal to abandon your pride and buy a turkish gun. Therefore the turkish shotgun presents itself as the apex example of whether a person will do what is right without being forced to do it.
No one will punish you for not buying a better and functioning shotgun, no one will fine you or kill you for buying such a waste of chinesium.
You must save up for something better out of the goodness of your own heart. You must save up just a few bucks more because it is the right thing to do. Because it is correct.
A person who is unable to do this is no better than an animal, an absolute savage who can only be made to do what is right by threatening them with a law and the force that stands behind it.
The turkshit shotgun is what determines whether a person is a good or bad member of society.
>Fawning over the Benelli M4 is doing it wrong when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
I can go on
He's a flaming moron that has a mental breakdown whenever someone mentions anything Turkish even when the guy agrees with said Turkish think being shit. The walking lack of testosterone is buckbroken.
Some questions for Remington 870 bros. I'm looking to find a Police Magnum and Form 1 SBS it to chop the barrel down to 12.5" (or whatever's flush with the 4rd mag tube).
Do all Police Magnums have the same mag tube length? My goal is to keep a 4 round tube capacity and get the barrel as short as possible. This question is also important in the event that I buy a short barrel instead of chopping whatever barrel is already on it.
Most PMs I've seen come with rifle sights. If I chop the barrel, can a gunsmith reattach the same rifle sights or will they need to be modified to be usable? Would it be better to just get rid of them and install a bead? Or find a short barrel with a bead already on it?
Is it even worth it to track down a reasonably priced used PM? They seem kind of scarce right now (think I missed a wave of surplus from a few months ago). Would it be better to get a regular 870 or Tac 14 and work from there, upgrading with PM parts as I go?
Looks like this might be the only option for a Police Magnum right now. IIRC he's able to be contacted directly rather than through gunsinternational. Shame TheCastleArms is OOS because they were pretty nice on the phone and helped me find the one I wanted out of what they had. And yeah mine came with rifle sights and the rear was missing. Frick me. I'd just buy an 18" takeoff barrel to chop if you don't want rifle sights, though be aware the PMs have a nice parkerized-like finish on them as well as the barrel.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/remington-shotguns-pump/remington-870-police-magnum-12-ga-.cfm?gun_id=102102246 >They seem kind of scarce right now (think I missed a wave of surplus from a few months ago).
Yeah you missed it even more than I did. Just wait until more come up; they're not rare and apparently King's gets tons of 870s commonly. Might even want to give 'em a ring and see if they'll call you when they get one in; you never know. https://www.kingsfirearmsonline.com/ >Would it be better to get a regular 870 or Tac 14 and work from there, upgrading with PM parts as I go?
Fuuuuck that, the prices and availability of Remington 870 parts right now is moronic. You'd unironically be better off going to a gun show to look for guys with small parts of those surplus police shotguns; at least then you can inspect them in person! I was going to buy an 870 from a guy I knew had some but he or his wife got sick like a couple days before the show.
Also buy one made before '07 as that's when Freedom Group bought them and they went to SHIT. I went with one made in the 90s. >If you want to know when an 870 was made, look for the serial number. The serial number should look something like this: A123456B. The A would be what's known as the prefix. That prefix tells you when your shotgun was made with some exceptions, which would be pre-68 guns and modern ones that you wouldn't want anyways; both pre-68 and newer 870s have no prefix or the numbering system has changed. Here's the prefix chart I've been able to find: >1950 - 1967: No Prefix >1968 - 1973: "S" Prefix >1974 - 1977: "T" Prefix >1978 - 1983: "V" Prefix >1984 - 1989: "W" Prefix >1990 - 1990: "X" Prefix >1991 - 1993: "A" Prefix >1994 - 1996: "B" Prefix >1997 - 2000: "C" Prefix >2001 - ????: "D" Prefix
https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27371
Looks like this might be the only option for a Police Magnum right now. IIRC he's able to be contacted directly rather than through gunsinternational. Shame TheCastleArms is OOS because they were pretty nice on the phone and helped me find the one I wanted out of what they had. And yeah mine came with rifle sights and the rear was missing. Frick me. I'd just buy an 18" takeoff barrel to chop if you don't want rifle sights, though be aware the PMs have a nice parkerized-like finish on them as well as the barrel.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/remington-shotguns-pump/remington-870-police-magnum-12-ga-.cfm?gun_id=102102246 >They seem kind of scarce right now (think I missed a wave of surplus from a few months ago).
Yeah you missed it even more than I did. Just wait until more come up; they're not rare and apparently King's gets tons of 870s commonly. Might even want to give 'em a ring and see if they'll call you when they get one in; you never know. https://www.kingsfirearmsonline.com/ >Would it be better to get a regular 870 or Tac 14 and work from there, upgrading with PM parts as I go?
Fuuuuck that, the prices and availability of Remington 870 parts right now is moronic. You'd unironically be better off going to a gun show to look for guys with small parts of those surplus police shotguns; at least then you can inspect them in person! I was going to buy an 870 from a guy I knew had some but he or his wife got sick like a couple days before the show.
>You'd unironically be better off going to a gun show to look for guys with small parts of those surplus police shotguns
Small parts of those police surplus shotgun lots I mean. A lot of those guys buy 20-50 from a lot like that to sell locally.
My apologies anon, perhaps I wasn't clear. That is simply an image from Google Images of the same model of shotblaster I now have and not a photo I took myself
However that one is pretty low res, so here's a better one 🙂
In that case I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by white light, if you mean a tacticool mounted flashlight I didn't have any plans to get one at the moment, I'd want to fully familiarize myself with shooting and taking care of the gun before getting accessories.
The frick you mean tacticool flashlight? You mean a weapon mounted light so you can identify targets and not accidentally shoot Grandma in the dark? What's with the ignorant fudd thinking?
What's the most interesting/aesthetic shotgun you've shot /k/? For me, it's my grandpas Browning model 2000. Aside from it being a beautiful gun, the recoil impulse is interesting and the trick for chambering a shell from the loading port is novel. Burned the shit out of myself on it the only time I shot it because I dumped several boxes through it in like 5-10 minutes
a 500 receiver is pretty damn modular, you can go from a 500 to a 590 or 88
you can stick 835 or 535s parts but not eject
though the parts pricing makes it moronic since its cheaper to get a second gun
How quiet is it? Is it hearing safe or at least does it not make your ears ring? I've considered an M4 and silencer before but as with anything silencer related you can never really be sure about how good a silencer is until you buy it and use it unless you're exceedingly lucky and have a local outdoor range that rents guns with in-production silencers attached or whatever.
It can be hearing safe. It depends on what configuration you have the suppressor in. I have mine at 8” because I feel like that’s the sweet spot between suppression and weight/length
Hard to compare since he's doing measurement at muzzle (and I think he's ringing steel on some shots?). Not too bad though; I'll have to keep that in mind for the future. I guess what I should ask is when you're at an outdoor range or hunting and you're alone, is it comfortable enough that you shoot without earpro? I can shoot w/ no earpro even with 1200fps .22 out of my 10/22 (haven't been able to measure dB because $$$ equipment I don't have) and it's amazing. I'm considering setting up a second and zeroing it just for subsonic.
So many of you are into 500s and 590s but I never see much posting about the Browning BPS which I think is the better iteration on a tang mounted safety shotgun. All steel construction too so it's hefty especially for you 590 fans. Bottom eject like the old model 37s. Really surprised it's not more popular.
I got a screaming deal on this one. there weren't any on GB for months, then some started popping up, but we're going for like 1400, I got mine for about 950 after taxes and shipping. even came with a holster!
I was going to buy an 870 in a similar config at a gun show; guy had a couple. I don't think it was $500, though, holy shit. Also why the frick does it seem those lights, no matter how old and polished from use they get, are ever available cheap? I'd buy a 15 year old flashlight forend. Nah, that's probably considered retro though and some collector would pay $200...such is life.
what is this price.
Beat surplus shottys even with accessories should be $400 max
Lol Remington 870 prices are moronic right now. Parts too. I guess with Remington getting fricked over and its pieces thrown around something happened to the market. But these prices are shit, especially outside of deer season. I looked up parts and I fear what happens when something breaks on my 870. I want a replacement furniture set; best I can find is $40-60 for a stock, possibly plus shipping. Everygunpart has some stocks for cheap but they're always fricked up (chipped bad) and even at $15 for a stock, their $20+ shipping isn't worth it. I looked up getting a replacement rear sight assembly and honestly at ~$40-60 (and a semi-screwed up rail for it to ride on) I'm considering just buying a Carlson's barrel to get a bead sight and the ability to use replaceable chokes.
Then either buy it for the meme or shut up
Keltec knew the action is a headfrick with how much can go wrong and couldn't overengineer it for gas so they made it pump and 'put the reliability in the user's hands'
Tbf they work fine if you get a good one and are trained with a pump but kick like a b***h
Michigan posters are easy to notice.. > My old western arms long range shotgun I had to make new firing pins for and a new stock > Frick working on boxlocks
I saw one of these at Cabelas and I couldn't fricking believe someone was still making them. Also, Leupold scope and an anti-cant level? What kind of groups do you get out of this thing with (I assume) slugs?
I bought a Benelli M4 at my LGS. It's also my first shotgun.
What are some shotgun-specific things I need to learn? It came with 2 chokes, a cylinder and a modified choke. Do I need to get a certain type of choke for HD? My nightstand gun is just a basic G19 with light. What about the shooting range?
When it comes to shotshells, do I just stick with 00 buck for everything (I don't hunt)?
If you're just planning to send buckshot through your gun for home defense then cylinder is fine. You really only need to care about tighter chokes when shooting birds at a distance.
I've got 10 boxes of these Federal law enforcement 12 gauge 2¾in 00 buck shells from the late 90's stored in unknown conditions. Should I shoot them, or hold onto them? This box shows the most signs of damage, with what appears to be some insect shit on the top. The shells themselves look fine though. I've only been able to find this box design featuring the "flight control wad" logo, but these obviously predate that. Federal patented the flight control wad in 1999, so I'm assuming these are at least 25 years old.
I got a SKB 585 sporting. Extremely underated guns I got tens of thousands of rounds through mine. No telling how much more from the c**ts who had it before me.
How about you stop being a homosexual and just agree behind a simple cause.
Frick mag fed shotguns, they are useless.
>Frick mag fed shotguns, they are useless
Assuming you mean box-mag shotguns, if so then yeah
>Semi-autos are gay
Then I am a gigantic flaming homosexual.
I kinda want to get a VR-80. I like AR stuff and an AR shotgun seems like it would be a lot of fun. Plus it would be easy to clean and maintain.
>The benelli M4 did about as well as turkshit in the TFBtv shotgun burn down.
>Fawning over the Benelli M4 is doing it wrong when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
That makes me feel a little bit better.
I'm 150 rounds of birdshot in with 0 problems so far, but I'm still expecting it to crap out on me. I have a bit of a perverse desire to use and abuse it until it breaks.
>t. Turknelli owner
I love me some ARs, and that is what I would use if my life was on the line, but shotguns are just plain fun.
Frick ya mudda
No
youre not only wrong youre also a homosexual
Reject dichotomy, embrace unity
I like ugly shit but that is fricking horrendous
Tastelet the M3 top folder is beautiful
how does is shoot? a store near me sells one for 400 euros and I'm tempted.
Not my pic, I have the fixed stock model. Haven't had the chance to try lighter loads through it but it shoots great in both semi and pump. Only complaint is that if you want to top off a partially depleted tube you need to hold the bolt release button down. Aside from that it's light but the recoil isn't that harsh and the trigger feels great. Granted it's my first semiauto shotgun so I don't have much of a frame of reference to how it compares to other semis
neat, nice watches.
> ~~*Berg*~~
I opted for semi-auto.
I opted for both. I already owned the Mossberg, but when Trudeau threatened an assault weapons ban, I panic-bought a 1301 just in case. Turns out the ban didn't affect shotguns anyway in the end, but I wouldn't let either of them go regardless
you can have two shotguns.
>pump vs semi
Ah yes I see the peasants are bickering again
indeed
This the Chinese one? I'd be in for one but they're either never in stock or get bid on for more than they're worth on gunbroker.
I have one of those Chinese ones. It's not great but not bad either. Reloading is a pain and you have to work the lever like an orc to cycle properly.
ive heard polishing the internals helps with the action but i think if you buy an 87 clone you know reloadings going to be a pain
There's very few modern guns that don't benefit from having the machining marks knocked off. You're not getting hand fitted for less than your car's worth these days. On the plus side, it's not like it's hard.
Ya, one of the new ones Cimarron is bringing in. I've heard little about them but what I've heard has been good enough. I can say with mine, I haven't shot it yet, but it is way smoother than I thought it would be granted I've never owned a levergun before. I don't see why it wouldn't work as intended. Any faults with it have to do with the base design and not the manufacturing. My take on it until I shoot it is pretty worthless imo, but the Cimarron ones are different from the previously made chink clones so it's an open field in that regard. When I got mine gunbroker had been flooded with them so you should be able to find them now and for a decent price
*pheasants
Your Stoeger coachgun isn't impressing anyone. I also went and got one at the pawn shop for $175.
It ain't about price, it's about aesthetic. Transcend your consumerist thinking, anon
>stoeger brick
>aesthetic
Even though I think all that scrollwork on the fancy ones can go shove it, the Stoeger has undeniably god awful lines, which only get worse as you go down in bore size because even the 410 is built on the 12gauge receiver.
Something like an AYA No.4 boxlock with auto ejectors is about the floor of what anyone knowledgeable would call a "classy" traditional SxS. A good budget single-trigger would be something like the Tristar Bristol, which at least comes with gauge-specific receivers and auto ejectors.
>undeniably god awful lines
Well, I deny it
>you're lacking outward material expressions of wealth therefore you're poor
Black mentality
>what anyone knowledgeable would call a "classy" traditional SxS
Didn't call it "classy", just said it's about aesthetic, never specified an aesthetic though. My preferred aesthetic is clearly different from yours
>cheapest 12x12 tile available from home depot
>$0.11 per foot floor moulding
>laminate countertops
>$400 Turkshit SxS
Damn homie you ballin
Someones been watching scuffed realtor
Primitive screwheads seething about your deadite blaster
>"the peasants"
>posts a Stoeger
lmfao
reminder that /k/anons who only own a pump shotgun are objectively worse than noguns due to their inflated sense of worth.
>objectively own something another does not
>this means you’re worse off
I’ve seen a lot of moronic shit here but this might top it all
If you're a ruralgay and your only gun is a pump shotgun, you chose well.
Give me a lever action, or give me death (preferably from a lever action)
Do i get a mossberg shockwave and put a stock on it and SBS form 1 it or do I get a beneli m4 or beretta semi auto
Why can i never find slugs for sale
>Why can i never find slugs for sale
Where are you looking
Lgs
Ammoseek
Cabelas
Sportsmans warehouse
More lgs
Well there's your problem anon, you aren't looking in my ass
Well spread your cheeks then and show me what you got as long as it's not $1 per like ammoseek
We live in a $1 a round for slugs kinda world now anon
anon we printed 2/3 of our money in the last 5 years. Be reasonable and just aim better.
I am STILL looking for reasonably priced beater 870 furniture at not-$35-plus-shipping-a-piece prices.
Cabelas has their slugs and their Buckshot in a moronic location. It's on an endcap IIRC. Fricking hell I don't know why they do it. I nearly walked out when I needed some in a hurry before barely finding it.
Lol It's not much better at Cabelas if any.
Who made that folding stock?
>Who made that folding stock?
Fabarm
>$160 swiss franc
>$212 usd
>stock only
I bought the whole shotgun like that for 300 euros
I was hoping it was made for other shotguns but it appears it's just for that Fabarm shotgun.
The only good slug made is availible.
590S Shockwave
>Why can i never find slugs for sale
You have to check constantly for deals. Just the other week I got 500 12ga federal slugs for I think it was 73 cpr. At most. They sell out fast.
If you like shooting slugs in volume you should be casting and loading your own. It's cheap and easy.
If you're not shooting in volume then just buy a couple of extra boxes when you do see them instead of only what you'll shoot on the day, you moron.
Thoughts on top loaders?
Gave your mom a top load last night
>be me
>token straight white conservative guy at work
>become friends with surprisingly based hispanic coworker
>mentions he has a shotgun he doesnt use
>offer to buy it for $100
>assume it's some cheap turkshit
>he agrees
>do the transaction after work
>it's a pristine Ithaca model 37 featherweight
>holyshit.jpg
>it's worth way more than I payed
>work buddy is just happy for the beer money
it's a great shotgun, looks beautiful, and has the bonus feature of being able to slamfire
When one can say this...
>token straight white conservative guy at work
>token
Why even own guns at this point? It's over
meh it's an outdoors store with lots of alt girls and gays
on the plus side i have gotten to bang alot of alt/yoga girls
IF YA CANT GET IT DONE WITH 2 THEN 3 OR MORE AINT GONNA SAVE YA
I picked this one up around a month or so ago. I was going to buy a 28" barrel to swap in when dove season rolls around, but I'm probably just going to buy another used 500A with a 28" barrel instead. More guns more better
Doves are gross, you're gross
There is no reason to get a 28" barrel.
If that one is threaded for chokes it's good to go, if not get another barrel that is threaded, but one that's as short as possible.
Long shotgun barrels give no benifit, just downsides
>Long shotgun barrels give no benifit, just downsides
They are marginally quieter to the shooter.
Noguns nonsense
Name one thing a 28" barrel does better than an 18".
Long barrels are heavier for faster and precise swinging when shooting moving targets like doves
Not that someone who doesn't shoot would know
They are heavier, which makes them harder to swing, you fricking brainlet
Shotgun threads have the funniest morons
You dont get it, this is why we can all tell you dont shoot.
You gave yourself away moron
Hahahaha look at the noshoots
As a champion skeet and trap shooter, as long as upland bird hunter, shorter barrels are superior, only old ultrafudds state the contrary(or euros who have never shot anything else)
As a 4 time champion skeet and trap shooter, the fluidity of riding the momentum of a long barrel beats out a short barrel
You don't know what momentum is apparently, and have clearly never tried a shorter barrel.
Shorter is better for clays, and much better for hunting.
You don't either I guess but whatever works for you, fakeguns
What's up with that pump on the Remington. I haven't seen anything like that before.
Yeah seconding, wtf is that, does it have… sights? On top?
It's a Shockwave Industries Raptor forend.
The idea is that they go on the Mossberg shockwave or other SBS so you can grip over the bore while shooting from the hip for maximum control but gripping over bore is something I wanted for my full size shotty. It does have little plastic sights and as dumb as they look, they work being a little high because my 870 hits when hovering under the target with the bead.
A+ idea, C+ effort since the damn thing cracked after a range trip.
interesting. Thanks anon
Post your shotgun. We can watch the best competition shooters in the world and they all have long barrels. You are lying.
Depends on the purpose. My skeet gun is a 12g that has 30 and it's ok. I actually get way better breaks with my 20g Citori which has 28", and my fav for general hunting is a 26" CZ Bobwhite. It's stupid how the barrel length thing is a trend in clay sports. A guy who is 6'8" rolling a 30" barrel probably is gonna handle similar to a guy who is 5'6" running a 26"or something. I'm talking specifically o/u and SxS here. The whole thing is dumb bc a 28" semi is about the same length as a 32" o/u so you mean to tell me the semi auto guys have had this vast competitive advantage all these years before 32 and 34" o/us started getting trendy?? Gtfo
Post your competition gun with a measuring tape. I’m positive it’s closer to 28” than 18”.
The average barrel length in the Olympics is 30”. Rules don’t allow them to be over 32”. If shorter barrels were an advantage there would be a minimum barrel length standard, not a maximum.
Longer barrel doesn't mean heavier LMAO. For example go lookup a Benelli M2 weight for the 18" then the 28" barrel models. All the different models have it at the same weight and at most 0.1 pounds difference which is 1.6 ounces. I bet you think a classic M16A1 weighs more than an M4 because it has a whole extra 5.5". GTFO of here
The longer barrel absolutely makes it heavier you absolute drooling moron lol does the mass just disappear?
>trusting manufacturer listed weights
Does that math not seem funny to your underdeveloped brain?
https://www.targetfocused.life/blog/brand-new-updated-benelli-m2-shotgun-review
https://bornhunting.com/a-do-all-shotgun-you-cant-ignore-benellis-m2-field/
There's a difference of 5 oz in weight between a 26" and 28" from two reviewers, way more than the 1.6oz you're claiming.
Christ, go eat a 12ga slug, that is, if you even own a gun
As someone whos probably killed more dove than this entire thread combined i can confidently say this is wrong I've hunted with 14ish 20 26 28 and 30 it very much makes a difference the 14ish is effectively a waste of time the 20 with a medium choke was alright but the other 3 put them down much better
Fwiw the issue is the tiny 8 shot they sell here is pretty marginal with 6 I might have a different opinion and I suspect with buckshot its mostly irrelevant
I love the 1897 like you wouldn't believe
I wish mine wouldn’t light strike all the time for no discernible reason.
Get a new hammer spring
It is new.
Weird. Might want a smith to look at it
Since this is a shotgun thread....
Do I get a Benelli M4 or a Beretta 1301 Mod 2? I heard the Beretta is the better buy since it's lighter, cheaper, and more modernized. But the Benelli M4 is the more reliable shotgun (thanks to it's short stroke dual piston system no doubt).
The benelli M4 did about as well as turkshit in the TFBtv shotgun burn down.
Beretta is the way.
Both shit, only break actions!
Semi.
You are a massive homosexual
Pump action is gay, you're jerking off your gun and acknowledging that you're a sloppy incompetent homosexual incapable of keeping a simple machine in good working order.
Break action is not gay, you're simply establishing dominance over your gun.
i fricking hate my 9 shot 590a1
its a heavy , long , piece of shit
if i could do it all over again it would be beretta all day
>i fricking hate my 9 shot 590a1
>its a heavy , long , piece of shit
wrong.
personally I just don't like the ghost ring sights
You bought the A1 version of course it’s heavier. Buy the regular 590 like me and every other big dick haver.
>You bought the A1 version of course it’s heavier.
This.
Buying the A1 and complaining it's heavy is like driving an F350 and complaining about the mileage. The main fricking difference between the A1 and the standard 590 is that it has the heavier barrel. Why would you buy that if you didn't want the extra weight?
>Semi-autos are gay
Then I'm all in for the homosex
Just popping in to dab on the poors.
That's a 1600 shotgun, how are you NOT part of the poors? Gotta post a Gucci 5k competition OU or nothing, minimum.
With an olight homie? You are stealth poor
>olight
You've self reported friendo
>12g recoil
>Olight
Can really see where the budget ran out
Pump action resembles masturbation
I pumped ya mudda
Just ordered a Remington model 11
Just got a Mag-7 for $800, how'd I do anons?
Price is pretty typical, the guns are OK, biggest issue is mags are really hard to find and they don't take standard length shells, though the latter problem is easy enough to deal with if you handload, and loading shotshells requires less gear than loading metallic cartridges.
Yea I heard the same, and I wouldn't have bought it otherwise, but it came with 2 mags and 11 boxes of the original techno arms ammo
Nice, that's a much better deal then. The ammo thing isn't really a big deal, get yourself a roll crimper for like $20 and you can shorten commercial ammo to work just fine in it.
There's still 2.5" and 2.25" shells made for old guns too.
Yes, though neither of those lengths are correct for the Mag-7, and they're pretty expensive and hard to find so you're much better off loading your own.
One of them'll fit and in my experience they're not that much more expensive when you find them.
Of course you're better off rolling your own, but zoomers.
Fawning over the Benelli M4 is doing it wrong when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
The SupernovatNova and M3 are where it's at - its downright criminal how much better of a shotgun the M3 is over the more expensive 1301 that I cringe a little inside when I run into a 1301 gay
you want the real red pill?
Shotguns in general are doing it wrong, unless you're doing clay sports or hunting, and then a nice double mogs everything. If you're wondering if the M4 is the right gun for you then more than likely what you really want is the other kind of M4, the one that shoots 5.56.
Shot placement is important, and a shotgun lets you place 9+ shots into Tyrone's chest with one pull of the trigger.
Statistically rifles and shotguns perform the same in real-world shootings when it comes to number of shots per stop. Yet, rifles do this with lower recoil, longer range, and higher capacity.
>stop
There's your problem. You want Tyrone DEAD. You do not want that Black person in court.
If you have any statistics showing it's any more lethal then by all means share them.
If you're just repeating the 'ol fudd bullshit of muh 9 pellets of 32 or whatever then STFU.
When you stop repeating the new zoomer bullshit of muh tacticool stops. Have you ever seen anything bleed out?
>When you stop repeating the new zoomer bullshit of muh tacticool stops
I'm not sure what that means.
> Have you ever seen anything bleed out?
I hunt, and I live in a rural area where pest control is a constant issue, so yeah, many times, over a period of more than twenty years. In my experience a single rifle bullet outperforms a load of buckshot nearly every time. It's not that buckshot is ineffective--it's not, it works great--the puzzling thing is when people think that it's better than a rifle, which has been the exact opposite of my experience.
Once again, do you have any sources to back up your claims or are you parroting fuddlore?
>pest control
That'll be relevant when they defund the police and we can go on hood safari. No shit dinging a fricking lamped fox in the head is the same thing no matter what you're using.
>lamped fox
I'm talking about feral hogs anon, some of which weigh a few hundred lbs. Anyway, you keep replying but you're still not sharing any data?
Oh yeah sure let me just look up the 2024 Dead Black person Database.
>I'm talking about feral hogs
Which you are shooting in the head (or lying about) if you think #4 and .223 will exsanguinate at similar rates.
>Oh yeah sure let me just look up the 2024 Dead Black person Database.
You have to have facts to back up a claim, anon. You can't just say it's that way because it makes sense in your head or its like how shotguns work in video games. We do have real-world shooting statistics and they don't support the claim that shottys are somehow more effective.
>will exsanguinate at similar rates.
It's pretty simple, anon: with the rifle shot the hog usually drops instantly and bleeds out while unconscious. With the shotty there is no such effect, the hog runs and bleeds out while it's running. They can make it dozens of yards after a hit. Now you would think that the higher pellet count of the shotty would result in a higher chance of hitting CNS but that's not something I have seen borne out in practice.
>Marshall & sannow
Lmao at your life
>Shotgun means runners
Tbqh the game reactions I've seen from non magnum caliber rifles and shotguns loaded with buckshot have been very similar if you keep the buckshot range reasonable and exclude cns hits. They both usually run a bit before bleeding out with occasional DRTs but it's not the normal.
What about slugs?
t. different anon
don't engage with homosexuals, you're being baited autism anon
>s-source!?
I know you don't have one, so go buy a shotgun and watch some clint smith videos.
I've watched Clint Smith videos before. He likes to use expressions like "blows chunks of meat off people" but he doesn't cite data. I want facts, not preaching from whomever the tacticool kiddies are worshipping these days.
Black folk aren't magical and aren't bulletproof. Even a cracked out one bleeds just the same. There is zero chance tyrone survives a 75/77gr OTM to the chest, let alone two. I use a .300 blackout for HD and handload 110gr vmax. He's not surviving that.
Here's a bunch of elk being killed by .223s. But please tell me how the north american pavement ape is a tougher quarry
https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/223-for-bear-deer-elk-and-moose.130488/
The problem is that a lot of those turknellis need to be replaced with benelli parts and by the time you're done you'll end up spending as much as a genuine M4. Don't get me wrong I love seeing cheaper options become viable alternatives to mainstream designs but as it is you're better off saving up and buying a genuine M4. But like you said, and I fully agree, the M3 is a fantastic gun that gets overlooked by too many buyers along with other great semiauto designs that aren't the 1301 or M4 that can be had for way less
The turkshit shotgun test is the ultimate litmus test for whether a person is capable of self-governing.
To save a few bucks more for a real shotgun is an easy, convenient task and one which we all recognize as the correct, appropriate thing to do.
To save up money for a functioning shotgun is objectively right.
There are no situations other than dire emergencies in which a person is not able to save up for something better.
Simultaneously, it is not illegal to abandon your pride and buy a turkish gun. Therefore the turkish shotgun presents itself as the apex example of whether a person will do what is right without being forced to do it.
No one will punish you for not buying a better and functioning shotgun, no one will fine you or kill you for buying such a waste of chinesium.
You must save up for something better out of the goodness of your own heart. You must save up just a few bucks more because it is the right thing to do. Because it is correct.
A person who is unable to do this is no better than an animal, an absolute savage who can only be made to do what is right by threatening them with a law and the force that stands behind it.
The turkshit shotgun is what determines whether a person is a good or bad member of society.
Go ahead, be a poorgay
>when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
lol
>Fawning over the Benelli M4 is doing it wrong when there are 3 good turk clones that are half as much or less with 100% parts compatibility.
I can go on
>3 good turk clones
no such things
can't you even fricking read? look at the pic you posted
He's a flaming moron that has a mental breakdown whenever someone mentions anything Turkish even when the guy agrees with said Turkish think being shit. The walking lack of testosterone is buckbroken.
How much more durable is 590a1 vs 590? I want something that will last me forever in the zombie apocalypse
then get the 590A1
Some questions for Remington 870 bros. I'm looking to find a Police Magnum and Form 1 SBS it to chop the barrel down to 12.5" (or whatever's flush with the 4rd mag tube).
Do all Police Magnums have the same mag tube length? My goal is to keep a 4 round tube capacity and get the barrel as short as possible. This question is also important in the event that I buy a short barrel instead of chopping whatever barrel is already on it.
Most PMs I've seen come with rifle sights. If I chop the barrel, can a gunsmith reattach the same rifle sights or will they need to be modified to be usable? Would it be better to just get rid of them and install a bead? Or find a short barrel with a bead already on it?
Is it even worth it to track down a reasonably priced used PM? They seem kind of scarce right now (think I missed a wave of surplus from a few months ago). Would it be better to get a regular 870 or Tac 14 and work from there, upgrading with PM parts as I go?
Looks like this might be the only option for a Police Magnum right now. IIRC he's able to be contacted directly rather than through gunsinternational. Shame TheCastleArms is OOS because they were pretty nice on the phone and helped me find the one I wanted out of what they had. And yeah mine came with rifle sights and the rear was missing. Frick me. I'd just buy an 18" takeoff barrel to chop if you don't want rifle sights, though be aware the PMs have a nice parkerized-like finish on them as well as the barrel.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/remington-shotguns-pump/remington-870-police-magnum-12-ga-.cfm?gun_id=102102246
>They seem kind of scarce right now (think I missed a wave of surplus from a few months ago).
Yeah you missed it even more than I did. Just wait until more come up; they're not rare and apparently King's gets tons of 870s commonly. Might even want to give 'em a ring and see if they'll call you when they get one in; you never know. https://www.kingsfirearmsonline.com/
>Would it be better to get a regular 870 or Tac 14 and work from there, upgrading with PM parts as I go?
Fuuuuck that, the prices and availability of Remington 870 parts right now is moronic. You'd unironically be better off going to a gun show to look for guys with small parts of those surplus police shotguns; at least then you can inspect them in person! I was going to buy an 870 from a guy I knew had some but he or his wife got sick like a couple days before the show.
Also buy one made before '07 as that's when Freedom Group bought them and they went to SHIT. I went with one made in the 90s.
>If you want to know when an 870 was made, look for the serial number. The serial number should look something like this: A123456B. The A would be what's known as the prefix. That prefix tells you when your shotgun was made with some exceptions, which would be pre-68 guns and modern ones that you wouldn't want anyways; both pre-68 and newer 870s have no prefix or the numbering system has changed. Here's the prefix chart I've been able to find:
>1950 - 1967: No Prefix
>1968 - 1973: "S" Prefix
>1974 - 1977: "T" Prefix
>1978 - 1983: "V" Prefix
>1984 - 1989: "W" Prefix
>1990 - 1990: "X" Prefix
>1991 - 1993: "A" Prefix
>1994 - 1996: "B" Prefix
>1997 - 2000: "C" Prefix
>2001 - ????: "D" Prefix
https://www.remingtonsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27371
>You'd unironically be better off going to a gun show to look for guys with small parts of those surplus police shotguns
Small parts of those police surplus shotgun lots I mean. A lot of those guys buy 20-50 from a lot like that to sell locally.
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/category.cfm/sportsman/used-firearms/of3/12-GA
I opted for a third option and got a goose gun at a pawn shop recently
excellent taste
Reminds me of the second gun in "I'm a hero" manga.
60 shells.
>true gunzpowerpown0z
A little bit heavy maybe ?
Maybe for you twigboy
In this house we accept all shotguns. Except lever action, lever action shotgun owners will never see the light of heaven
sour grapes
Nice stevens
I have my first shotgun 🙂
What do I think of it?
Very nice anon. What are you doing for a white light?
My apologies anon, perhaps I wasn't clear. That is simply an image from Google Images of the same model of shotblaster I now have and not a photo I took myself
However that one is pretty low res, so here's a better one 🙂
Yes, I understood that lol
In that case I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by white light, if you mean a tacticool mounted flashlight I didn't have any plans to get one at the moment, I'd want to fully familiarize myself with shooting and taking care of the gun before getting accessories.
flashlight helps you shoot better in low light conditions
The frick you mean tacticool flashlight? You mean a weapon mounted light so you can identify targets and not accidentally shoot Grandma in the dark? What's with the ignorant fudd thinking?
he doesn't actually own a gun
Being able to see in the dark isn't tacticool you Black person. It's practical
looks good
What's the most interesting/aesthetic shotgun you've shot /k/? For me, it's my grandpas Browning model 2000. Aside from it being a beautiful gun, the recoil impulse is interesting and the trick for chambering a shell from the loading port is novel. Burned the shit out of myself on it the only time I shot it because I dumped several boxes through it in like 5-10 minutes
>aesthetic
50s Auto 5. Old style horn butt plate, deep blue, nice reddish shellac (?) finish on the wood.
poor
Post collapsed stock.
Silly millennial lads, my old JC Higgins bolt action shotgun hasn't let me down in 60 years!
>laughs in Benelli M4
Mine swings both ways.
Not abnormal for Italians
you're confusing us for the greeks.
>you're confusing us for the greeks
Bullshit history perpetuated by homosexuals
Guys is this good for trap
yes
>is this good for trap
Yeah, I don't see any reason why they would be any harder to kill than normal people
If the AR is the modular rifle and the glock [or maybe Sig's guns, I've seen anons point out] is the modular pistol, what is the modular shotgun?
870 or an 88/500? With shotguns you're probably just playing "what has the biggest aftermarket?" Which would be Remington and Mossberg.
a 500 receiver is pretty damn modular, you can go from a 500 to a 590 or 88
you can stick 835 or 535s parts but not eject
though the parts pricing makes it moronic since its cheaper to get a second gun
Finally added a shotgun to my collection. I love this stupid thing
i want to have sex with a shotgun
>Pistol-tier sight radius
Wat
Adding weight to inertia driven shotguns can induce malfunctions correct?
What if it's weight behind the action eg spare shells mounted on the stock?
Take the shotgun suppressor pill anons.
I can literally never go back. It’s too good
How quiet is it? Is it hearing safe or at least does it not make your ears ring? I've considered an M4 and silencer before but as with anything silencer related you can never really be sure about how good a silencer is until you buy it and use it unless you're exceedingly lucky and have a local outdoor range that rents guns with in-production silencers attached or whatever.
It can be hearing safe. It depends on what configuration you have the suppressor in. I have mine at 8” because I feel like that’s the sweet spot between suppression and weight/length
What's the max length? And even with something like no 4 through 00 buck? Think Flite Control or something if you can use that. That'd be sweet.
Max length is 12”. It’s pretty front heavy, even on my shorty M4, but damn it’s quiet and smooth shooting
Here’s a video with some rough decibel testing for 12” and 6”: https://youtu.be/70sSjSC8OBo?si=vIVIJlJNKJmE-T0I
Hard to compare since he's doing measurement at muzzle (and I think he's ringing steel on some shots?). Not too bad though; I'll have to keep that in mind for the future. I guess what I should ask is when you're at an outdoor range or hunting and you're alone, is it comfortable enough that you shoot without earpro? I can shoot w/ no earpro even with 1200fps .22 out of my 10/22 (haven't been able to measure dB because $$$ equipment I don't have) and it's amazing. I'm considering setting up a second and zeroing it just for subsonic.
So many of you are into 500s and 590s but I never see much posting about the Browning BPS which I think is the better iteration on a tang mounted safety shotgun. All steel construction too so it's hefty especially for you 590 fans. Bottom eject like the old model 37s. Really surprised it's not more popular.
do handguns count as shotguns if they have a shotgun barrel?
I want a LeMat so fricking bad
I got a screaming deal on this one. there weren't any on GB for months, then some started popping up, but we're going for like 1400, I got mine for about 950 after taxes and shipping. even came with a holster!
200 posts and all you gays neglect the classic hammer side by side design
https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-remington-870-police-magnum-12-gauge-shotgun-w-light
what is this price.
Beat surplus shottys even with accessories should be $400 max
I was going to buy an 870 in a similar config at a gun show; guy had a couple. I don't think it was $500, though, holy shit. Also why the frick does it seem those lights, no matter how old and polished from use they get, are ever available cheap? I'd buy a 15 year old flashlight forend. Nah, that's probably considered retro though and some collector would pay $200...such is life.
Lol Remington 870 prices are moronic right now. Parts too. I guess with Remington getting fricked over and its pieces thrown around something happened to the market. But these prices are shit, especially outside of deer season. I looked up parts and I fear what happens when something breaks on my 870. I want a replacement furniture set; best I can find is $40-60 for a stock, possibly plus shipping. Everygunpart has some stocks for cheap but they're always fricked up (chipped bad) and even at $15 for a stock, their $20+ shipping isn't worth it. I looked up getting a replacement rear sight assembly and honestly at ~$40-60 (and a semi-screwed up rail for it to ride on) I'm considering just buying a Carlson's barrel to get a bead sight and the ability to use replaceable chokes.
Why can't Italians make shotguns for shit?
Why are you a moron?
Lynx 12 gtg? LGS has one for $420
All new shotguns worth a shit are Italian
What does that say about the rest of the world?
gun go chhkkk chhkkk
>want KSG for memes and I kind of like how it looks
>no semiauto
Yes, very """tactical"""
What does tactical mean to you?
Marketing meme to charge morons more for useless shit
Then either buy it for the meme or shut up
Keltec knew the action is a headfrick with how much can go wrong and couldn't overengineer it for gas so they made it pump and 'put the reliability in the user's hands'
Tbf they work fine if you get a good one and are trained with a pump but kick like a b***h
>but kick like a b***h
Kek only b***hes b***h about recoil
i>he hasn't taken bolt action shotgun pill
Michigan posters are easy to notice..
> My old western arms long range shotgun I had to make new firing pins for and a new stock
> Frick working on boxlocks
I saw one of these at Cabelas and I couldn't fricking believe someone was still making them. Also, Leupold scope and an anti-cant level? What kind of groups do you get out of this thing with (I assume) slugs?
Replied to myself like a dumbass
It shoots around 1-1.5 MOA at 100yds with remington accutips.
Dayum
>Semi-autos are gay
>Likes guns you have to jerk off
Why project so hard?
Beretta A300 ftw
How can you say you love your gun if you won't even give her a little reach around?
I bought a Benelli M4 at my LGS. It's also my first shotgun.
What are some shotgun-specific things I need to learn? It came with 2 chokes, a cylinder and a modified choke. Do I need to get a certain type of choke for HD? My nightstand gun is just a basic G19 with light. What about the shooting range?
When it comes to shotshells, do I just stick with 00 buck for everything (I don't hunt)?
If you're just planning to send buckshot through your gun for home defense then cylinder is fine. You really only need to care about tighter chokes when shooting birds at a distance.
For me its dtl trap.
patrician weapon
Man these cynergies are ugly. Shouldve gone for the more classic Citori c**t
I've got 10 boxes of these Federal law enforcement 12 gauge 2¾in 00 buck shells from the late 90's stored in unknown conditions. Should I shoot them, or hold onto them? This box shows the most signs of damage, with what appears to be some insect shit on the top. The shells themselves look fine though. I've only been able to find this box design featuring the "flight control wad" logo, but these obviously predate that. Federal patented the flight control wad in 1999, so I'm assuming these are at least 25 years old.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Nyet, shells is fine
My humble guns. Top is an SKB 500 that I just picked up.
I got a SKB 585 sporting. Extremely underated guns I got tens of thousands of rounds through mine. No telling how much more from the c**ts who had it before me.
>Pump action are the only acceptable form of shotgun
What about rifles? Are pump actions the only acceptable form of rifle?
I saw this monstrosity earlier, it must be removed from the internet
I really hope the anon in /msg/ actually owns this thing. It's really something else.
Probably rechambered to .30-30 as well.
Should have gone all the way and tapped the barrel for a gas piston.
Pure filth