Shaheed means martyr

Give it to me straight PrepHole
How fucking useless are these iranian drones?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lawnmower in the sky.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i can go twice as high

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gee anon, it's almost like it's intentionally designed it to fly low to the ground to reduce the effectiveness of American supplied AA and radar, which is not for <3000 ft

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even the Vatniks stopped spamming threads about them a week after they started being used so they must be pretty garbage.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ukis had to learn identifying them correctly on radar I guess, now they are just another drone and no more wunderwaffle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hope they're not wasting too many good missiles on these, you'd think a net of guys with MANPADS around cities would be enough

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          they can use the donated gepards to take these down would be more cost efficient

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          they can use the donated gepards to take these down would be more cost efficient

          The Shahed 136(above) has a max flight altitude of 4km, Stingers can only engage in targets 3.8km high and Gepards 3km high. They would be most effective stationed at the target it's diving on.
          The Mohajer-6(below) can fly at above 5km and drops guided ordinance so it wouldn't be threatened by MANPADS. I guess this is why the big push to get Ukraine medium range systems like the NASAMS.
          Thank goodness the Russians think terror bombing will work for some reason instead of targeting logistics...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >instead of targeting logistics
            Russia will have more benefit terror bombing with them than trying to target something they can't see nor find

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Max altitude isn't the problem. Russia is flying the 136 at low altitudes with the Mohajer-6 for guidance. They do night attacks because the TDF MANPADS teams are short on night fighting equipment and they found that the 136s could get through defenses.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            why are you lying about the gepard?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >being this fucking stupid
              PrepHole is dead, we're just hearing the gases escaping.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >now they are just another drone
        Not true. It's by far the shittiest drone in Russian arsenal.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Shaheds have adequately demonstrated they are miles ahead of domestic Russian products. KUB in particular has been outed as absolute trash.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    naming a kamikaze drone martyr seems fitting
    these are cheap and Ukrainian kill figures might be overstated

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. I wouldn't say "useless" because a cheap, diposable kamikaze drone is always useful - at least, you force the other guy to waste on it a missile. What they aren't, are game changer wunderwaffe.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How many intel chips can iran produce yearly?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Stupid comment. I'll give you a hint why; they aren't supposed to be able to import any either.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The point of a martyr is to die for something typically a religion. If that something is Ukranians having to use ammo then I guess it fits.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was a sinful thing to name them after a holy concept. This shows you how shallow their religious feelings are.
      These are religious leaders who instigate riots if someone mishandles their book but allow the drone to be named that and then given to Russians.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They always fly in pairs so essentially it’s doubling the amount being shot down

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i came. that was clean and satisfying

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ohhh nonononono

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jokes on you, that section of sky was our target and now that it's blown up, you can't use it. This is the next gen of denial of airspace.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr-ACK

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >21 shot down
    how many hit their targets?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Kiev strike had 2 confirmed ground-level explosions, the Russians claim 6-7 hits on... something.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Crazy that any nation fielding military hardware just has it taken by the USA
    and gutted like a fish for examination

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Israelis probably knew all about these drones anyway, more than the Iranians themselves. Iran is such a joke, can’t wait for them to get btfo already.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Iran is such a joke, can’t wait for them to get btfo already.
        in the royal sense I agree, but I disagree that Iran is a joke the same way I would say North Korea isn't a joke. we can think they are silly, ridiculous, classify them however you want. those nations DO contain people intellectually capable of achieving some of the same things we have in the west. they DO have their own development and design systems. I don't have a point or an "underlying here's why you're wrong" I just disagree with calling them a joke

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao if you say so vatnik

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            not a vatnik and didn't mention russia you sound like an assmad europoor

            The same can be said about russia. Iran has a very corrupt and very muslim regime, they’re a paper tiger worse than russia. And even the “tiger” they’re presenting to the world uses tech that is decades old. Their only option is NOOOK but they’re been trying to get a bomb for over 20 years, they will probably never make it there. Not to mention that the iranian people aren’t vatniks, they mostly want this regime gone and they’ll get it eventually.

            russia I see differently because they have actually tried to go
            >hey look at me and what I can do and how advanced I am
            while the rest of them generally shut up until they can put up like kim launching missiles.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lmao go fuck off back to telegram sergei

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                fuck off back to aisle 4 poolack theres spilled milk

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Iran isn’t pretending to be a world superpower, true, but they’re definitely very vocal about wanting to destroy enemies that are much stronger than them. Similarity to russia it’s what keeps them in power, telling their people IRAN STRONK. Just look at their endless military parades and cardboard stealth drones and the daily threats they’re making, it’s all talk. Meanwhile it’s their adversaries who are silent. And I don’t just mean israel, you can bet your ass that the saudis are up to something with all of that oil money. Sooner or later they’ll be exposed, hopefully by their own people.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that makes sense and I agree, I tend to forget that Iran screams Israel bad like Russia does NATO bad

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, you look at Iran and NK they both try to stay within what they know they can do while Russia and more than likely China just larp with rushed looks-good-enough-for-headlines tech to keep up appearances. Iranian drones? Best case scenario they hit targets caught off guard and at worst act as decoys for enemy AA. NK shit? Shoots about as well as anything else from the 60's, minus 60 years of aging since their shit rolls out of the factory like that. Russian and Chink high tech bullshit? Probably will have a high failure rate, underperform, and be an all around disappointment when actually fielded.

              I laughed at Iran's speedboat navy but they definitely work better than the Kuznetsov ever did.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's a shame because russia was supposed to have quality equipment & china was supposed to field theirs in ukraine but now we might evaporate in a missile strike before we see the wheels pop off a chinese buhanka

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >we might evaporate in a missile strike
                The only danger Russian nukes pose is to Russians themselves. Shit's expensive to maintain, and judging from the rest of their military and how many nukes they're supposed to be keeping up to standard they likely have thousands of more Nyonoksa incidents waiting to happen.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyonoksa_radiation_accident
                Now Iran? They'd be smart enough to only try maintaining a handful of nukes if they had any.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not so willing to discount their nukes not working, but moreso from the position the US military would take on that - we should assume every single one works and have a plan surrounding them. realistically I know there would not be many major civilian targets anyway and it isn't something that has ever caused me anxiety by any stretch of the definition.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Missing the point. Russia doesn't have the institutions and people to develop anything. They are a cargo cult. The fact they are buying equipment from NK and Iran instead of producing locally tells everything you know.
            tldr Russia is less of a functioning State than NK and Iran.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not really. It means that Iran and NK have already been living under harsh sanctions for long enough to have developed a local industry, even if it produces shit relative to the West. Russia hasn't had time to adapt and cope with being a pariah state yet, and the way this war is going, they're gonna fall to pieces before they have the chance.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The same can be said about russia. Iran has a very corrupt and very muslim regime, they’re a paper tiger worse than russia. And even the “tiger” they’re presenting to the world uses tech that is decades old. Their only option is NOOOK but they’re been trying to get a bomb for over 20 years, they will probably never make it there. Not to mention that the iranian people aren’t vatniks, they mostly want this regime gone and they’ll get it eventually.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > they DO contain people intellectually capable of achieving some of the same things we have in the west
          what have the iranians achieved exactly? nothing. Iran is a paper tiger that is in no way comparable to any western nation technologically. They would get rekt in 3 months tops by the us

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's less what have iranians achieved and what they as a people/ethnicity/race/whatever are capable of. like, i hold them in higher regard than poos, but that still doesn't mean much.
            you can call that a cope, i'm fine with that. iran has developed their oil industry without hiring westerners like russia has to. that's sort of how i see it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              what happens on the day oil prices collapse with an economy like this?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Shit sucks
                t. Norwegian

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you think OPEC is cutting down production? They need to keep the price as high as possible.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Putin commits suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >what have the iranians achieved exactly?
            In Iran? Very little, most of the smart ones left back in the 90s, and the smart ones born after that are still trying to leave.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Iran would be a battle the US would struggle to win. No thanks to the sandmoron military but all due to the terrain.
            It's all mountains and hills filled with like 80 million angry ragheads.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Iran would be a battle the US would struggle to win. No thanks to the sandmoron military but all due to the terrain

              bullshit meme. The us has the best airforce in the world. there is nowhere the iranians can hide without getting handled. any terrain that becomes a pain in the ass once will just get bunker-busted.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Depends on whether the US would still try that nation building bullshit or just leave ruins in it's wake. Simply hammering military forces is easy, sitting around and praying that civilians rebuild something half decent is what makes things difficult.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I imagine the main objective would be to topple the current iranian regime. which would be entirely feasible

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the thing is iran already has a much more urban population and a relativly centralized state which makes it a lot easier to nationbuild that shit. the big reason it didnt work in afghanistan besides the huge cultural divide is the lack of state institutions to use as foundation to then later change over time into something resembling a liberal democracy. cant really do that when there were entire villages in the mountains that didnt even know the soviets had left

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Iran would be a battle the US would struggle to win. No thanks to the sandmoron military but all due to the terrain

              bullshit meme. The us has the best airforce in the world. there is nowhere the iranians can hide without getting handled. any terrain that becomes a pain in the ass once will just get bunker-busted.

              Reminder that they won't star invading iran by launching ground attacks. unlike the russians the americans aren't retarded. Iran will first get the living shit out of it bombed by the airfoce and navy.

              see that one webm of desert storm

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >80 million angry ragheads.
              Half of those "angry ragheads" are relatively modern people, youth who themselves wouldn't mind a little regime change. Iran's also much richer than its neighbors relatively speaking; I don't think the US even needs to destroy the Iranian military, just a few surgical strikes on centers of the government's power and the people will do the rest.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Youre talking to someone who probably can't point to Iran on the map and genuinely thinks Iran has been building nuclear weapons for the last 30 years because Israel said so

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well they destroyed a military HQ and two ammo depots and they can be launched from mainland Russia to outrage HIMARS.
            People criticizing the noise don't get it. They're loud because they purposely fly close to the ground to evade radar. They're exactly what Russia needs, which is cheap and repeatable munitions. Not some super tech trying to compete with American tech, which it was inevitably going to fail at. Iran understood this 10+ years ago when it got into drones.

            Iran has solid state fuel rockets and laser guided missiles. Iran has achieved A2/AD and it's why USA never invaded it. These Shaheed drones cost next to nothing to make and they're propeller driven purposefully aimed at the ground. Iran did it by itself, isolated by sanctions.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              so far weve only seen them hitting a gas station and apartments

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, there is video of it hitting HQ and ammo depot. We didn't know what it was immediately, Ukraine actually admitted what it was. Most people are pro Ukraine and aren't saving and sharing videos that don't look good for Ukraine. I've seen enough videos of Ukrainian soldiers trying to shoot down drones with small arms fire. They're just as incompetent as Russians but have NATO weapons. That's all.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Iran has solid state fuel rockets and laser guided missiles.
              these aren't monumental breakthroughs. solid state fuel rockets are not impressive technologies (it's how what most missiles use) and laser guided missiles are old technology that iran has had from other countries for decades. it was only a matter of time before they would start reverse engineering to make their own. I bet even nigeria could build those if they put resources and time in to it

              > Iran has achieved A2/AD
              care to post evidence of this? and how this would make a us invasion impossible.

              >it's why USA never invaded it
              no the us never invaded iran because there is not good reason to at all. They would need a reason to invaded which they don't have. they can't even use 'muh weapons of mass destruction' because they already use it once.

              >Iran did it by itself, isolated by sanctions.
              Again, drones aren't all that impressive. Any nation state can probably build them with limited resources.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          bruh

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Iran achieved A2/AD, all on its own through sanctions. That's why USA didn't invade it. They can target any base or carrier fleet within 2000km. Not that they're going to fight off a us invasion but the USA politically can't afford to take on casualties. So Iran has achieved deference.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              If only the United States has spent decades coming up with doctrine and spent billions of dollars to develop equipment to counter A2/AD!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Such a stupid comment. How is USA going to topple the regime without boots on the ground? To put boots on the ground, the USA needs bases and carrier fleets. Everything within 2000km is in range of Iranian A2/AD. It's not just targeting that, but Iran can hit oil tankers and pipelines. a few of their drones hit the refineries in Saudi Arabia.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Iran isn’t pretending to be a world superpower, true, but they’re definitely very vocal about wanting to destroy enemies that are much stronger than them. Similarity to russia it’s what keeps them in power, telling their people IRAN STRONK. Just look at their endless military parades and cardboard stealth drones and the daily threats they’re making, it’s all talk. Meanwhile it’s their adversaries who are silent. And I don’t just mean israel, you can bet your ass that the saudis are up to something with all of that oil money. Sooner or later they’ll be exposed, hopefully by their own people.

        The same can be said about russia. Iran has a very corrupt and very muslim regime, they’re a paper tiger worse than russia. And even the “tiger” they’re presenting to the world uses tech that is decades old. Their only option is NOOOK but they’re been trying to get a bomb for over 20 years, they will probably never make it there. Not to mention that the iranian people aren’t vatniks, they mostly want this regime gone and they’ll get it eventually.

        > they DO contain people intellectually capable of achieving some of the same things we have in the west
        what have the iranians achieved exactly? nothing. Iran is a paper tiger that is in no way comparable to any western nation technologically. They would get rekt in 3 months tops by the us

        Its easy to shit on Iran just being another freedom hating desert dictatorship that can be rolled up in a 2 month air campaign. However the current Iran power structure and their dealings in the region are partly a product of decades of US middle eastern foreign policy and the need of several US presidential administrations for a scapegoat country in the region. By no means Iran is a country with a clean record, but how it came to be the way it is, isnt as black and white as many US Americans perceive it to be.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think there's anybody who doesn't agree that Iran is America's fault. Deposing the Shah was the stupidest possible thing we could have done, but the Cold War turned America into a frothing retard internationally. Iran and most of South America were ruined because of the CIA.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its not just the '79 revolution, it has been a chain of events spread over decades. The nuclear deal signed during the Obama administration was a step in the right direction with Iranians from all levels of society literally partying on the streets when it was signed. That was until the following administration unilaterally blew up the deal (without discussing it with the other signatories) because easy political points could be scored among the Fox watching home audiance + oil producing and US arms buying states on the other side of the Gulf. If it wasnt for that clusterfuck, there was a good chance momentum from that deal would have carried on till today leaving Russian without drones many months ago.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The damage they do is pretty minimal.
    Probably on the level of Switchblades, only Switchblades are able to track moving targets, while the Iranian crap is seemingly only used against buildings so the accuracy must be pretty low

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Switchblades are able to track moving targets, while the Iranian crap is seemingly only used against buildings so the accuracy must be pretty low
      That's the because the Iranian shit ONLY can accept preprogrammed GPS coordinates for guidance. They have no optical or infrared guidance at all. This means they are 100% useless against literally anything that moves.

      Why you would want to only be able to hit static targets with a grenade sized payload is a question only the false god of goatfuckers can answer.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When your alternative is Russian equipment, you take what you can get.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Makes more sense when you realize they're supposed to be spammed at Saudi oil facilities and air bases.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the false god of goatfuckers
        You mean Jehovah?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukrainians are learning fast how to shot down those drones, but some of them still hit tho. It's not an easy targets for their current (and few) air-defense systems.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its monkes birthday afterall

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they've only got the power of an artillery round, and don't have a video feed so they can't be used tactically. Really only useful for killing civilians

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    completely useless from what I hear, heat signature out the ass, flying capability ass. It's just a flying ass.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine just doesn't have enough coverage in the rear to swat them all down at night but they've started stationing SPAAGs at the likely high value military targets. Russia is just dropping them on residential and civilian infrastructure in response though.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The can be countered, but can't be left unaccounted.

    So, not all that useless but not a tide turner for even a bit and Iran itself doesn't have enough to spam those in war.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How fucking useless are these iranian drones?
    I mean they are just cruise missiles basically so about as useful as Iskanders and Kalibrs I guess. How useful have they been over the course of the conflict?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >slow
    >low
    >clear signature

    Great for the WW2 era AA business. any capable nation could just build a rooftop AA nests with the shittiest radar guided gun to deal with those.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >has a functioning MIC in your path

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that greebling cobbled together from a home depot
        >the fucking discoball
        star wars used to have such a huge budget, what happened

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they seem more useful than those switchblade toys

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, havent seen a lot of switchblade usage
      on the other hand most footage we get is from 2nd or 3rd rate units and i would assume switchblades arent handed out to just everyone
      same why we see little western gear being used overall, except for the occasional released official himars/pzh2k footage and ofc the small arms and MRAPs

      Better than a grad rocket

      but probably also more expensive?

      https://i.imgur.com/9d8RCc5.png

      >Shaheed
      More like Shitsoverhead
      Also
      >be Iran
      >so focused on suicide bombings you even make your drones suicidal
      >tfw they get 72 unused dji minis in drone heaven

      kek

      The Iranians haven't told us their name for the drone.
      That shaheed-136 name was given by the garden gnomes

      then i propose قاطعة العشب

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Switchblades are designed to be low collateral, man portable drones for taking out HVTs. In the absence of that they're more useful for recon than merc'ing some rando.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Switchblade 300 are really just for COIN/counterterrorism. They are designed to take out one single officer, sniper or machine gunner, or one single car.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better than a grad rocket

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Great for hitting unsuspecting civilians.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Shaheed
    More like Shitsoverhead
    Also
    >be Iran
    >so focused on suicide bombings you even make your drones suicidal
    >tfw they get 72 unused dji minis in drone heaven

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they get 72 unused dji minis in drone heaven
      Lel.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, sir, are you telling me that Silicon Heaven isn't real?

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Martyr or moped? You decide.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Iranians haven't told us their name for the drone.
    That shaheed-136 name was given by the garden gnomes

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're still hitting fuel and ammo depots, so they are at least better than Kalibr and Onyx who kept hitting chemical factories, farmsheds and residential buildings.
    And infinitely better than Kh-22/32 who seem to always go for the nearest mall, no matter if it's on hostile or friendly territory.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they hit one (1) ammo depot.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Snaheed means farmer, as in Snaheed's faheed and saheed.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is just the V1 stage of WW2 all over again. There is no strategic or tactical value in any of these strikes, it is just coping.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They're guided, not point and shoot. They fly under radar. That's how they hit a military HQ and an ammo depot with them. Tactically they're extremely useful but Russia doesn't use them correctly. They should be fired in groups so some make it through AA and reach destination. If Russia had a real military they'd be monitoring how many make it through AA and determine an efficient amount to send to ensure they hit targets. Instead they send them one by one and at useless locations like Odessa. They don't even know what to fire at. They have no Intel or anything

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >russians litteraly using anti ship missiles on shopping malls and commieblocks
      it kinda do be reminiscing of adolf's autistic plan.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Im impressed just how stupid this board is getting. Yes bro, guided drones are like ww1 rockets

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >guided drones
          I'll take "Literally what a V-1 is" for 400, Alex.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            V1 was a point and shoot rocket. It didn't have a guidance system. Shahed is directed from computer, it can loiter etc before a target is given. They aren't the least bit similar. Please do our community a favour and go back to plebbit

            >NO IT DOESN'T SUCK THEY'RE JUST USING IT WRONG
            If this doesn't work, try claiming you only gave them the monkey model version. The Soviets/Russians coasted for 60 years on that one cope alone

            sending them Odessa is how they're supposed to be used? So you agree with Russians?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >V1 was a point and shoot rocket. It didn't have a guidance system.
              1. It wasn't a rocket
              2. It had an guidance system.
              3. It's spelled V-1

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes anon, V-1 had a guidance system accurate to within 1 km of the target. Totally comparable to the guidance system of this drone accurate to within metres and has knocked out a military HQ, 4 x Howitzers, an ammo depot, that's just what the Ukrainians are willing to admit to.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Im impressed just how stupid this board is getting.
                >The V-1 wasn't a guided drone.
                >It was an unguided rocket
                >OK, it wasn't a rocket and it had guidance
                >But I wasn't wrong.
                >It just doesn't count, OK?
                >It doesn't count because it's not as accurate as something built 80 years later.
                >Did I mention how everyone here except for me is dumb?
                >HQ and 4 Howitzers!
                >REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you engaging with the obvious troll, anon? Either he's pretending to be a retard for kicks, or he's a particularly dumb shill who they don't trust to deviate from his talking points.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Im impressed just how stupid this board is getting.
                >The V-1 wasn't a guided drone.
                >It was an unguided rocket
                >OK, it wasn't a rocket and it had guidance
                >But I wasn't wrong.
                >It just doesn't count, OK?
                >It doesn't count because it's not as accurate as something built 80 years later.
                >Did I mention how everyone here except for me is dumb?
                >HQ and 4 Howitzers!
                >REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT

                I'm not trolling, it's all strawmans and completely missing the points with you people. You're tourists from plebbit that destroyed this board since the war started.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes the weapon is good if it's destroying hq and 4 Howitzers. It's a cheap drone and it does its job. Your point is effectively;
                >"haha worthless javelins only destroyed a tank!"
                Lol uhhh okay bro

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              No, I think the Russians are employing the Shahed incorrectly, but I also think the Shahed isn't very good.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's because you're stupid. Ukraine yesterday admitting they are only shooting down 60% of them. This thing is cheap as chips. Swarms of these would devastate if Russians actually had any idea what to shoot at. Seems like they don't do any recon or Intel. Same reason they haven't managed to deal with HIMARS.

                [...]
                [...]
                So fucking what if it is guided or unguided. The V1 metaphor is that Putin is just throwing away advanced technology, which is not free, on hitting civilian targets in worthless terror missions that don't change what is happening on the front line at all.
                Ukraine uses drones to lob grenades at squads of soldiers, causing attrition and panic.
                Russia lobs drones at Ukrainian cities to be shot down at worst and at best hit an apartment block, causing the fire department to be called in. Amazing.

                I made that same point. Russians are using things incorrectly. V-1 was never going to be useful though. Too expensive to produce and too inaccurate. Even the V2 killed more factory workers than enemy. Iran is intentionally making simple drone designs. I'd liken it more to T-34 which wasn't the greatest tank in the war but it was a super simple design and easy to fabricate. Shahed is exactly the weapon Russia needs but they aren't using it well at all. Just terror bombing Odessa right now. Achieved nothing

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Im impressed just how stupid this board is getting. Yes bro, guided drones are like ww1 rockets

              They're guided, not point and shoot. They fly under radar. That's how they hit a military HQ and an ammo depot with them. Tactically they're extremely useful but Russia doesn't use them correctly. They should be fired in groups so some make it through AA and reach destination. If Russia had a real military they'd be monitoring how many make it through AA and determine an efficient amount to send to ensure they hit targets. Instead they send them one by one and at useless locations like Odessa. They don't even know what to fire at. They have no Intel or anything

              So fucking what if it is guided or unguided. The V1 metaphor is that Putin is just throwing away advanced technology, which is not free, on hitting civilian targets in worthless terror missions that don't change what is happening on the front line at all.
              Ukraine uses drones to lob grenades at squads of soldiers, causing attrition and panic.
              Russia lobs drones at Ukrainian cities to be shot down at worst and at best hit an apartment block, causing the fire department to be called in. Amazing.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're not useless, they just aren't going to have an appreciable impact on the war by themselves.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just how many of these is Iran delivering to Russia? dozens per month? hundreds?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      according to Oleg Zhdanov vatmorons had 300 of them, so far used or lost around 100. The ukes are getting better at shooting them out of the sky, but they can't get all of them if they're sent in swarms. Fortunately the vatniks are retards and mainly use them for terror bombing and not actual military targets.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://wartranslated.com/update-from-ukrainian-military-expert-oleg-zhdanov-7th-october/
        forgot link

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd be nervous as fuck to be the Iranian ambassador or his staff right now.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          given that their current excuse for the iranian drones is basically "there is no war in ba sing se" and they have a revolution going on, I think things are well tied up on that front for now. The garden gnomes also blasted one of their drone factories to pieces for daring to sell them to Puccia to begin with.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The plant where they made these mysteriously blew up in June when there was first rumors of this deal, and now Iran is going through some pretty big riots. Now, I'm not saying it was glowmorons who got the okay to remind Iran who's the real boss, but that's some very coincidental timing...

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like these would be pretty good at using up expensive/important AA missiles. We need modernized punt guns for point defence.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're not useless, but the way the Russians are using them definitely is. Terror bombing is fucking retarded and has literally never worked. When you do it to an autocratic country it doesn't matter because they don't care what the people think, and when you do it to a democratic country you just harden their will to resist.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They did manage to hit a military HQ and an ammo depot with the drones. But I don't know why the fuck they're sending them at Odessa. Russian military are retarded.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's more a case of that's what happens to drone spam when you're not fighting inept savages.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    SHAHED means WITNESS

    SHAHEED means MARTYR

    Two completely different words. The drone is called Shahed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SHAHED means WITNESS
      >SHAHEED means MARTYR
      So does the SHAHED sound like SHA-HEAD whilst SHAHEED sounds like SHAHEEEEED?

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are powerful but slow and easy to track. Should be pretty much an easy target for MANPADs, which is probably why they are focusing on using them for terror bombing.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Russia is NOT low on long range missiles, that is HATO nonsense."
    >Starts using Iranian suicide drones.
    What did they mean by this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Iranian suicide drones are very cheap and easy to produce. Syria has a bunch of workshops building them and Israel is constantly playing whack-a-mole to knock them out.
      The Iranian drones are good but ukrop propaganda is in full force trying control narrative. Hence shit like ghost of Ukraine and being unable to take out Russian military column for 2 weeks despite it was all parked up outside of Kiev in a 20 mile line.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hence shit like ghost of Ukraine and being unable to take out Russian military column for 2 weeks despite it was all parked up outside of Kiev in a 20 mile line.
        (You)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ghost of Kiev? The Russian column? You don't remember? Are you from plebbit?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Russian column existed and theres nothing you can do to change that fact, Cope

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Work on your reading comprehension you 85 IQ Plebbitor. I said the column was there. I said Ukraine did nothing about it the entire time. Because they're just as incompetent as the Russians except armed with NATO weapons.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck off Armatard.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kind of embarrassing the USA and Israel consistently loses to these people.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        C'mon anon, try harder. US won militarily in Afghanistan but failed on the country building aspect. When the Afghani people literally prefer being goat fuckers instead of civilized people and refuse to fight for their country, it doesn't matter if you're God, they're not going to change themselves for the better.

        Also Guerilla Warfare is literally impossible to wipe out unless you're willing to just genocide every single village and hidey hole in the entire country. The easiest way to defeat Guerilla Warfare is to just offer them a better life than the one they currently have. But that's only if they WANT a better life. Hell even Russia wasn't willing to go FULL genocide on the Afghani's when they were there and as a result failed just as badly to achieve the same objective the West had: Install a government that would be friendly to your cause.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I was talking about Iran usurping control of Iraq from under USA. Iraq is annexed in all but name only, the national revenue goes to the IRGC. This is as opposed to what was planned, which was iraqi oil revenue used to pay American trans-nationals. So it is Iran looting Iraq instead of USA. USA was outsmarted by both IRGC and the Taliban because they figured out long term strategies which the USA could never deal with and ended up wasting $6 trillion for nothing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, the Iranian Revolution was a long time coming. It was all MI6's fault, telling the CIA that Iranians were Communism Incarnate or something, and THAT was in retaliation for Iran nationalizing the oil fields the British had stolen from Iran.

            Basically, it's all Britain's fault, but the CIA then made it their own faults by endlessly running fucked up mind control experiments in Iran.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >kills your nuclear scientis
        >kill your colonel
        >bombs your nuclear site
        >gets your top general killed
        >bombs your weapons supply in syria

        yeah. I don't think israel is losing in this one. There is already domestics instability in Iran. even if these protest don't result in regime change, iran will continue to be unstable. The time will come when the people will really be fed up by their shit government that does nothing for them but sponsor terrorist proxies.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The time will come when the people will really be fed up by their shit government that does nothing for them but sponsor terrorist proxies.
          Well it isnt hard for their government to point at examples (like the ones you listed) to justify them being in power as a means to stand up to big bad USA who has undoubtedly been meddling with their internal affairs since way before the Iran revolution. There was a glimmer of hope among the Iranian people back in 2015 with the Iran nuclear deal, only for the US pulling out (as the only party among the signatories) just a few years later because Trump boasted it was "the worst deal in history and he would negotiate a better one".

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Well it isnt hard for their government to point at examples (like the ones you listed) to justify them being in power

            and how is that going? what is happening in Iran right now? the Iranian government has to kill thousands of its people because they are so shit. people are obvioulsly fed up and aren't going to buy it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              people are fed up, and they have been for a long time. This certainly isnt the first time Iranians took it to the streets, they have been at this point many times before. However their political hardliners always maintained the upper hand because better an oppresive government in a united country than a divided country that would become a playball of foreign powers. Hardliners only have to point at the still smouldering ruins of neighbour countries as a result of US middle eastern foreign policy to legitimize their ruling. And that comes on top of all the other stuff the US and allies has pulled over the years from shooting down a civilian airliner, killing their scientists to planting computer viruses to hamper their nuclear program. Yes their government is a bunch of cunts, but they are their own cunts that can stand up against the even bigger cunts from abroad.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shahed is what the switchblade was supposed to be. The drone is good, but Russia doesn't use them correctly. They're using them for terror bombing because they don't have the intelligence for targets to aim at. They don't know where anything is. They're also launching them 1 by 1 instead of as a swarm which allows aa to prepare. But the drones themselves are good
    >Very cheap to make
    >Fly under radar
    >Accurate
    >NATO hasn't really got a cheap way to shoot these down at these altitudes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shahed is a poor man's cruise missile and sized as such, you fucking retard. Switchblade is launched at the squad level from a fucking tiny ass mortar, provides real time intel, and can be recovered if you don't need to introduce someone to an explosive charge. They're also under 6k a pop which is cheap as fuck for what they provide. I don't know why you're even bothering to open your mouth to talk about things you don't have a clue about when pictures and information have been posted in the very fucking same thread about how retarded you are.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's because there's been a plebbit tourist invasion by people like yourself on this board, people who aren't in military. Switchblades were entirely disappointing it's why they are barely being used. Their dets are tiny. Shahed is also retrievable, it can loiter. It's not a fucking missile, it's a drone with propellers you fucking idiot.

        From what Ukrops are willing to admit, Shahed drones have destroyed a military HQ, a ammo depot, in a single brigade they destroyed 4 X Howitzers, 2 X BTR armored vehicles. Ukraine has only managed to shoot down 60% of them that's by THEIR estimates. They're cheap and simple to make and do damage when used correctly.

        The problem isn't with the shahed drone, it's how Russia is very incorrectly using them.

        Shahed

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Here is someone that knows what they're taking about;
        https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1573328046307872773

        Stop embarassing yourself

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >literally first post
          >small propeller cruise missile

          Now compare that to the switchblade being demonstrated for your dumb ass here

          [...]

          and see why these two systems are so incomparable that you might as well be comparing a fucking M1A2 Abrams with a fucking SU-35 because they're both vehicles. I can't tell whether there are unironic Iranians posting here about their wonderwaffen while hiding from the riots rocking their company, or the local vatnik brigade is under marching orders to talk them up even if it means downplaying Russian competence.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are using cruise missile in different contexts. You are mocking it was a cruise missile and he is promoting it as a cruise missile. You are entirely missing the point, it's not a wonderwaffen. You are setting up strawmans. The whole point of this weapon is that it's very cheap and accurate, so the cost to benefit ratio is immense. By Ukraine's own estimates mentioned yesterday they are only shooting down 60% of them and that's when with Russians incorrectly using them. Russia should be using them to swarm so they reliably make it past AA but instead they're firing off in different directions in terror bombing. Likely because they don't even know what to target (poor recon).

            You're confused because your info is coming from plebbit news feeds and you aren't reading actual public updates from different governments and comments from actual people in military. stop using plebbit it's propaganda

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >NO IT DOESN'T SUCK THEY'RE JUST USING IT WRONG
              If this doesn't work, try claiming you only gave them the monkey model version. The Soviets/Russians coasted for 60 years on that one cope alone

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    probably because you aren't getting it. I'm not sure why the V1 even came up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      because it's the most upvoted comparison in plebbit threads and the tourists come here to repeat it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Plebbit! Everyone take a shot!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          you have to go back

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Go back there??

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because the Russians are using Iranian drones in pointless terror attacks against civilians which 100% will have no effect other than being an outlet for their anger and shame at how poorly they are performing on the battlefield... just like the V-1.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's Shahed which means 'witness'.
    Shaheed is martyr. They're Iran's ultra simple drone meant to enable Syria, Lebanon and Houthis to make little factories around the place to produce them.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't useless but they aren't anything game changing either. It looks like most likely the Ruskies practically ran out of cruise missiles so they are using cheaper (and less effective) alternatives. The destruction they can cause is much less than what Russia did with cruise missiles at the start of the war, so it's nothing unprecedented.

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