Shade sails over structure??

I'm not a designer; I'm just a thoughtful moron.

I want to assess the practicality of using fabric shade sails over an existing structure to reduce wear and tear from the elements and to achieve passive cooling of the building.

From my research, shade sails seem to last between 5 to 7 years. However, using fabric as a (cheap?) sacrificial cover should protect against significant damage from the elements. Additionally, the gap created would likely prevent much of the heat from penetrating through convection.

My shit Photoshop edit is just to illustrate the concept; I'm sure an architect could create something very impressive in a modernist style.

There is already a concept used by designers called the "double roof," but I think it could be executed more cost-effectively.

https://www.archdaily.com/793633/double-roof-house-suep

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    > leaves / mould
    > building regulations
    > Birds building nests
    > noise from crosswinds?

    The only potential downsides I can think of thus far. How of a headfrick would it be to removed them during the winter months?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just unclip the fabric on one/two ends so it doesn't accumulate snow.
      But yeah I don't think most places are going to let you build a huge metal cage over your home and hang up a bunch of tarps.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        They should be angled. Probably a bullshit perfect geometry angle smarter people than I have have already calculated. Probably a long time ago too since every single primitive hut ancient man used was angled and curve just right for brutal weather. Angled will allow the wind to slide leaves down, prevent the wind from ripping them away, and minimize weather damage.

        Fabric shelters like awnings, outdoor umbrellas, and fabric shelters people set up for parties and gatherings outside already exist. Make it pretty and neighbors won't complain. If neighbors don't care, people with the power to remove wont find out about it. Making it pretty is the key to successfully accomplishing any outdoor project when you have control freak HOA or land lords. Hell, call it modern abstract art and make the fabric vibrant colors and you'll have made a attraction people will seek out.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    A steel roofover with metal roofing lasts a lifetime done right. Fabric shelters are common in the military world but decide how desperate you are for an art project vs. cold wise pragmatism.

    What is your existing roof?

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Somehow fly a giant tarp kite and have it follow the sun throughout the day to keep your stuff constantly in the shade....

    Could possibly be done with 3 or 4 towers on the edges of the property and lines running from them to the giant sunshade. Some computer programming to let out line or pull it in to get the shade where it needs to be to block out the sun.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bro have you heard of trees?

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    You must not get tons of wind.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or snow.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Or nutrition.

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve been thinking about getting some of these, mostly to block the view of my patio from new bullshit construction next door, also maybe a row of them in the other side of my house to block the worst of the sun heat. Anyone have experience anchoring them? I’m wondering if a standard fence post will be sufficient for the side, and what I need to put in the yard for the main one. Most people on YouTube and shit seem to only use them for small garden shades so less relevant to me.

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick off, Wayne.

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    This homie don't know bout trees lmaoooooooooo

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frick having trees right up on your house. Yes they provide shade, which is great, but they also spew leaves, pollen, flowers, and seeds all over depending on the species. Then you have to worry about them losing pieces or falling on your house during storms, and issues with the roots invading drainpipes and heaving pavement. Plus they can provide a habitat for pests, which you don't want right next to your house.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        This homie fraida outside lmaooooooooooooooooooo

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          He's correct however which is why I removed all trees in damage range of my house. You're just young therefore ignorant.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Non-homeowners don't get it. I've decades of experience proving your post correct. Trees are fine outside firebreak range which is where all of mine are (now). Trees frick up roofs and nearly everyone lets them grow until they have to pay an arborist because the owner is too old or otherwise incapable of removing them.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          You know there are different species of trees right? I mean I wouldn't want a big ass cottonwood right up on my house to drop huge branches and fall on shit, but a honey locust with it's thin branches and nice canopy is fine next to my house. Within reason of course, not all up in the foundation but 20'-25' away or so.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can have shade by strategic placement of larger trees or of the structure under larger trees

        No one said anything about having trees against your house

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they also spew leaves, pollen, flowers, and seeds all over
        good

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        The worst part is when they are "protected" species. Here in CA oak trees are, and the one in the backyard fell down and busted up our and a neighbors fence, and another fence.
        We have one in the front yard that I just trimmed with my dad. That one seems healthier but it sucks that we couldn't trim it when we built the house, so we couldn't use that part of the yard for anything really.
        The one in the front provides some shade kinda. One in the back didn't since it was way off next to the fence.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >spew leaves, pollen, flowers, and seeds all over
        is not the tree's fault you having shitty genes that makes you allergic to anything

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just spend a bunch more money and wait 5-20 years
      Brown people are so fricking stupid.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        transplanting is a thing, moron

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Transplanting mature large trees is ridiculously expensive, particularly given at best 1 in 3 will survive. You’d be lucky to find a company that would even do it for anything other large municipal contracts.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This homie fraida outside lmaooooooooooooooooooo

      Kys jidf israelite

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit
        What in the absolute frick are you talking about lmaoooooooooooooo

        Just plant some good canopy trees 20' from the house and stop being a fricking ni&&er about it

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Used head sails are way stronger and quite available.
    Mainsails tend to bellow and wont work as well.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. wind is a problem
    2. hex mesh fencing is great for deflecting enough hail to protect a garden in most instances while not affecting sunlight and rainfall
    3. any structure should not be susceptible in the first place with the exception of colossal hail
    4. shade cooling is the only actual valid reason to do a full sail IMHO

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to assess the practicality of using fabric shade sails over an existing structure

    What have you got against trees? Those sails are fricking expensive. Trees provide shade in the summer, fire wood in the winter. The sails will get fricked up in heavy winds, hail storms, thunderstorms, and turn into whips when their points of contacts break.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      even better they lose their leaves in autumn so you get sunlight in winter and shade in summer
      and a forest has a tendency to moderate the temperature as well

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    anon invents roofs

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to say that this is a fire album cover.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >reduce wear
    Nope, normal wear is is not directly drive by sun/water. If you ahve a hole in the roof is another thing, but assuring good maintenance, shade sails are less cost effective/sustainable.

    >passive cooling
    No passive cooling, it doen't work like that. You can only prevent overheating, but a wise design is better that a bit of shadow. Anyway better than nothing.

    >sacrificial cover
    Tiles, plaster and paint are the sacrificial layer. Also the roofs are suposed to be changed after a while depending by the structure. You are adding a sacrificial layer to an already existing one.

    >My shit Photoshop
    It's not a bad editing at all copmared to the standards in the industry. Surely it's fast, but you nailed light and perspective.

    >double roof
    There are many ways to do it. It can be visible or not, but from a practival point of view, if you make it so obvious is eiter because you want to cover large outside spaces, you want to achieve some architectural composition effects or you are using brise soleil and not an actual roof (that can also cover you from rain)

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      ESL go home.

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