Anon, you don't get it. Any civilization that has mastered faster than light travel already has you fricked 5 ways to Sunday. For example, if they send a single solid peice of matter (let's say the size of a .22lr to keep it /k/) at anywhere near lightspeed, it's bye bye Earth via the kinetic force alone.
On top of that anon, they're not going to invade, they're already here and have been here for a very, very long time. Now settle down and be a good little loosh pig for your Reptilian sky daddies.
in our current understanding of FTL thats true but that involves a lot of hypotheticals.
FTL might be horrifically expensive -- kinetic kill device-glassing us might cost them the equivalent of ten thousand years of solar output, or something (or whatever).
The point im trying to make is that the BEST way to beat someone is to convince them that fighting is not possible (thank you, Master Zu). This way, they will not even try to fight you.
Nah, 40 grain .22LR projectile at 0.9c is only about 22 kilotons. Small tactical nuke tier. Now move say a 100kg/220lb mass at about the same speed and you get about 869 megatons of frick-your-planet power. At 5 metric/5.5 short tons impacting at 0.9c it's something like 43 gigatons.
>how do i defend myself from something i can't defend myself from!!! >bros how do i fight off a tornado?? >guys, tips on what i should daily carry in case of hurricane attack?
what are you stupid?
If they have any presence in our solar system it's already game over, we can really only develop and achieve what they allow us to. Any illusion of human sovereignty is shattered while the fact that they don't seem to care if we see them but refuse to engage with us openly only raises uncomfortable questions. Its possible the phenomenon intentionally uses deception and smoke and mirrors and kabuki theater intended to shape our development over long stretches of time like Jacques Vallee proposed, revealing itself in forms appropriate to the cultures it interacts with - spirits and elves for pre-modern people while industrialized humans burgeoning on space exploration see spaceships and physical vehicles. It's true form may by much stranger still and may have been here longer than we have.
Three Body Problem is a Chinese book that talks about this (the title has nothing to do with the real life astrophysics problem). Aliens realize that Earth is indeed inhabitable and want to take over. They "diplomatically" suggest we all move to Australia and when we all stop starving then they'll leave us in peace. What stops the aliens is when the humans realize that all alien life wants to invade and kill anything it considers alien life, so Earth threatens to announce to the galaxy that the Sol system and the invading alien system has life in it through advanced communication technology, which will inevitably lead to some stronger third party annihilating both.
The constant presence of oxygen in the atmosphere has been a massive flag that Earth has life for billions of years to anyone with a spectrograph, oxygen is extremely reactive and shouldn't be detectable at stable concentrations for long stretches of time without being replenished by a process that metabolizes oxygen and alters its environment to balance and facilitate itself out - namely life. There's really no reason to hide, anyone with a telescope and enough time to search the stars would know we have been here for a very, very long time. Organic compounds like phosphine and methane and formaldehyde can be used to all but confirm a biosphere after detecting the oxygen.
chlorofluorocarbons are an extremely clear spectrographic indicator of technological civilization for almost a century now. If aliens are out there in the milky way (they are not, we are alone) then there's nothing in principle stopping them from observing our presence.
The funniest part is that the protag team actually sent the location of the Alien's homeworld, and it got zapped almost instantly.
The Aliens ain't even mad when that happened.
Ackchually the reason the ayys come over is that humanity revealed itself to be primitive and unaware of the dark forest universe so they knew they had a chance to safely frick with us.
This book series had a lot of bugthink tbqh. First, I dislike the dark forest assumption that an advanced civilization like the ayys in the book would need a natural biosphere so much that they would need to steal one so clumsily rather than hegemonize Earth and make us have open borders. The book made no sense at all that they would need our shit and then need it so bad they couldn't wait to steal it. Also, how is it a "forest" - you can see shit across the fricking universe if you're looking?
>some young, fresh singer who can both charm and stun them.
It's not super unrealistic.
Zentradi were a clone race bred as incels (with some femcels) and kept isolated from any form of cultural experience, especially the opposite sex in their own species. They're also more or less human aside from being enlarged most of the time.
They run into a weaponised Japanese/Chinese idol singer crafted by a culture that has long since perfected the psychological engineering involved and this turned the Zentradi into simps.
It works. We see it every day.
A culture-less, sheltered incel lacking in any kind of maternal affection simping for the first woman they see is the least unrealistic thing about Macross/Robotech.
There was a guest on c2c with Art Bell who said he oversaw a ufo shootdown in South Africa where they used mirage jets with experimental microwave-laser weapons. He said they only worked from close rage and the jet had to dive from above the object. Ground-based radars can supposedly accomplish a similar effect.
The "tic tacs" are an advanced radar/EO/IR/visual spoofing system. It's been in the works for decades, long enough for morons like Bob Lazar to catch glimpses of it and claim to have seen alien spaceships. I don't know exactly how it works but I do know they used to test certain types of particle beams over Area 51 that would make balls of light appear in the sky, which could be moved around much like the laser out of a laser pointer to cause the illusion of extreme speed and maneuverability.
Publishing videos of them and acting like they're unknown phenomena is all part of a careful blended warfare strategy that will make enemy radar/fighter jet/sensor operators doubt what they're seeing even comes from Earth, much less America, leading to confusion and instability in C2 channels.
That's the idea, China.
It's just a big suppository.
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Anon, you don't get it. Any civilization that has mastered faster than light travel already has you fricked 5 ways to Sunday. For example, if they send a single solid peice of matter (let's say the size of a .22lr to keep it /k/) at anywhere near lightspeed, it's bye bye Earth via the kinetic force alone.
On top of that anon, they're not going to invade, they're already here and have been here for a very, very long time. Now settle down and be a good little loosh pig for your Reptilian sky daddies.
As simple as. If they can travel faster than light, you are done for. You can't do anything. You are worse than natives vs conquistadors.
in our current understanding of FTL thats true but that involves a lot of hypotheticals.
FTL might be horrifically expensive -- kinetic kill device-glassing us might cost them the equivalent of ten thousand years of solar output, or something (or whatever).
The point im trying to make is that the BEST way to beat someone is to convince them that fighting is not possible (thank you, Master Zu). This way, they will not even try to fight you.
Nah, 40 grain .22LR projectile at 0.9c is only about 22 kilotons. Small tactical nuke tier. Now move say a 100kg/220lb mass at about the same speed and you get about 869 megatons of frick-your-planet power. At 5 metric/5.5 short tons impacting at 0.9c it's something like 43 gigatons.
>how do i defend myself from something i can't defend myself from!!!
>bros how do i fight off a tornado??
>guys, tips on what i should daily carry in case of hurricane attack?
what are you stupid?
Who was the gay in here that had the tic-tac UFO aeronautical artwork? UFO looked like it was Chinese affiliated. Super cool stuff, please post again.
Just for you anon
Artist is @WhaleOil2 on twitter
>you rika da fly ri?
shoot them
If they have any presence in our solar system it's already game over, we can really only develop and achieve what they allow us to. Any illusion of human sovereignty is shattered while the fact that they don't seem to care if we see them but refuse to engage with us openly only raises uncomfortable questions. Its possible the phenomenon intentionally uses deception and smoke and mirrors and kabuki theater intended to shape our development over long stretches of time like Jacques Vallee proposed, revealing itself in forms appropriate to the cultures it interacts with - spirits and elves for pre-modern people while industrialized humans burgeoning on space exploration see spaceships and physical vehicles. It's true form may by much stranger still and may have been here longer than we have.
Any civilization that can GET to Earth can end us just by accelerating their exploratory vehicle into the planet. There's no point.
man space is gay
Three Body Problem is a Chinese book that talks about this (the title has nothing to do with the real life astrophysics problem). Aliens realize that Earth is indeed inhabitable and want to take over. They "diplomatically" suggest we all move to Australia and when we all stop starving then they'll leave us in peace. What stops the aliens is when the humans realize that all alien life wants to invade and kill anything it considers alien life, so Earth threatens to announce to the galaxy that the Sol system and the invading alien system has life in it through advanced communication technology, which will inevitably lead to some stronger third party annihilating both.
it really incredible that we willingly launched a satellite out into space that has directions to where we live and what we look like.
The constant presence of oxygen in the atmosphere has been a massive flag that Earth has life for billions of years to anyone with a spectrograph, oxygen is extremely reactive and shouldn't be detectable at stable concentrations for long stretches of time without being replenished by a process that metabolizes oxygen and alters its environment to balance and facilitate itself out - namely life. There's really no reason to hide, anyone with a telescope and enough time to search the stars would know we have been here for a very, very long time. Organic compounds like phosphine and methane and formaldehyde can be used to all but confirm a biosphere after detecting the oxygen.
chlorofluorocarbons are an extremely clear spectrographic indicator of technological civilization for almost a century now. If aliens are out there in the milky way (they are not, we are alone) then there's nothing in principle stopping them from observing our presence.
>They "diplomatically" suggest we all move to Australia
Of course a fricking chink wrote that book.
The funniest part is that the protag team actually sent the location of the Alien's homeworld, and it got zapped almost instantly.
The Aliens ain't even mad when that happened.
Ackchually the reason the ayys come over is that humanity revealed itself to be primitive and unaware of the dark forest universe so they knew they had a chance to safely frick with us.
Throw our faeces at it, while jumping up and down and brandishing our pointiest sticks.
By telling it to frick off but that they can crash on the moon
I wouldn't worry about it
This book series had a lot of bugthink tbqh. First, I dislike the dark forest assumption that an advanced civilization like the ayys in the book would need a natural biosphere so much that they would need to steal one so clumsily rather than hegemonize Earth and make us have open borders. The book made no sense at all that they would need our shit and then need it so bad they couldn't wait to steal it. Also, how is it a "forest" - you can see shit across the fricking universe if you're looking?
Lockmart is working on it
Don't worry about it, babe.
Particle beam weapons, lasers, but most importantly you need some young, fresh singer who can both charm and stun them.
>some young, fresh singer who can both charm and stun them.
It's not super unrealistic.
Zentradi were a clone race bred as incels (with some femcels) and kept isolated from any form of cultural experience, especially the opposite sex in their own species. They're also more or less human aside from being enlarged most of the time.
They run into a weaponised Japanese/Chinese idol singer crafted by a culture that has long since perfected the psychological engineering involved and this turned the Zentradi into simps.
It works. We see it every day.
A culture-less, sheltered incel lacking in any kind of maternal affection simping for the first woman they see is the least unrealistic thing about Macross/Robotech.
minmay was a c**t
female zentradi detected
There was a guest on c2c with Art Bell who said he oversaw a ufo shootdown in South Africa where they used mirage jets with experimental microwave-laser weapons. He said they only worked from close rage and the jet had to dive from above the object. Ground-based radars can supposedly accomplish a similar effect.
The "tic tacs" are an advanced radar/EO/IR/visual spoofing system. It's been in the works for decades, long enough for morons like Bob Lazar to catch glimpses of it and claim to have seen alien spaceships. I don't know exactly how it works but I do know they used to test certain types of particle beams over Area 51 that would make balls of light appear in the sky, which could be moved around much like the laser out of a laser pointer to cause the illusion of extreme speed and maneuverability.
Publishing videos of them and acting like they're unknown phenomena is all part of a careful blended warfare strategy that will make enemy radar/fighter jet/sensor operators doubt what they're seeing even comes from Earth, much less America, leading to confusion and instability in C2 channels.