Meanwhile in Russia, they've created "Boards of Shame." They feature Russian soldiers who've refused to fight in Ukraine. Photos may show senior soldiers, with what appears to be a list of 240 names below. So confirmation cannon fodder isn't keen to die for Putin madness.
Is this an effective retainment technique? Would it convince you to fight?
looks shooped for fsb false-flagging op
Similar jingoism was done during the Iraq war where anyone against having more wars in the middle east was seen as anti American
Bush didn't put up boards in my town with unpatriotic peoples photos on them.
Frick off with the vatnig whataboutism.
You're with or you're against us. Be careful what you say, it only takes one bullet.
Consequences will never be the same?
If you have to ask, you already dun goofed
okay tough guy come get me
504 Battery Drive, New York City
ill be waiting
Cyber police already back traced him.
>living in NYC
You already suffer a fate worse than death
>Bush didn't put up boards in my town with unpatriotic peoples photos on them.
>unpatriotic peoples
Imagine dying for Israel in a war based on lies—while Israel and China laugh at you for being a sucker—and thinking that's patriotism.
>haha, Amerigolems die for Israel.
>not like us, we die to make our oligarchs richer!
Embarrassing.
Look at this moron that still denies the WMDs were hidden in Syria
>whataboutism
Yeah, vaguely remember some campaign to rename French fries as freedom fries lol
Yeah remember all those people that got 15 years in prison for speaking out against the war? Or for calling it a war?
There will be more wood used for billboards than pallets this war
I'm sure this isn't the extent of it, they will try and blacklist these guys from any government jobs or anything that needs government approval to make an example of them.
But shaming soldiers into going isn't a recipe for an elite fighting force. They will be a morale cancer in any unit and if they are senior it's even worse.
>240 refuseniks in just one unit.
Morale is all time high, I see.
fake and HATOsexual, fingers that typed this post were jacking off troony just a moment ago, this is a high score billboard of how many obese troony Black person americans each defender of Russia killed, the minimum is 240 to put your name on the board. lies like this prove the special denazification of HOHOLcraine will soon be over and Russian Troops will take London.
Don't lose your head over your anime girl, because she already did it
>Russians enter London
>hit by Truck of Peace
>shivved by local chav
>burned in acid attack
>blown up by nail bomb IEDs
>survivors poisoned to death by British """cuisine"""
sounds like a great time
>arrested for not having an armband license
>forced to drink Guiness daily
insanity
"The Refooser" meme inbound, I guess
AHHHHH I'M REFOOOOOOOOOSING
real COH2 hours
THEY REFUSED TO PERFORM COMBAT MISSIONS
FEBRUARY 24, 2022Russia began a special military operation in Ukraine. - The goal is demilitarization, denazification, and trial of all war criminals responsible for the "genocide" of civilians in "Donbass. The 205th Separate Motorized Rifle Cossack Brigade has been taking part in special operations on the territory of Ukraine since the first days and successfully performs its combat tasks: However, there are servicemen of our'brigade, who refused to perform their military duty and departed from combat positions to the place of ''permanent deployment. They forgot their military oath - a solemn promise, an oath of allegiance to their country. They have forgotten that military service is connected with the necessity of unconditional fulfillment of the assigned tasks under any circumstances, including risk to life - they have abandoned weapons, let down their comrades, dishonored their families, their land, their dignity!
That's an entire batallion of people refusing to fight...
No wonder they are not calling for general mobilizaton.
Trying to geolocate the board rn. 205th is garrisoned in Budyonnovsk. I thought I've found some military installation in the city, but it's just a military court with lots of uniforms hanging around.
I really should learn cyrillic
Sounds like 240 actually smart Russians.
There's hope for the yet.
>"special military operation"
>not a war
>months of lies about the state of the "special military operation"
>since it's not a war the Russian contracted soldiers have the legal right to refuse to be sent in Ukraine
>Monke still won't declare war because the "special military operation" is supposed to be going well
>so their hierarchy try to strongarm or shame the soldiers into going
What a circus. Imagine a western country trying that shit, the governement would be kicked out in days Russian are battered women.
More like boards of sensibility and self preservation, kek.
Have the reached the point where they need to call a general mobilization yet? There's stories floating about that they're reinforcing battered units with reservists, recruiting prisoners as suicide troops, and transferring naval personnel to the front.
If they can't get contract soldiers to show up why would normal gopniks? If you need 5 MPs to track down every draft dodger mobilization becomes untenable.
They can't do that their economy would instantly collapse
Economy?
Midget owns 1 billion $ mansion but still forces average Ivan to pay for this war
Kinda based, ngl
>This discount war economy
Lmao the bloated midget is really doing everything he can to not call for general mobilisation.
I think next step "ooga booga vatBlack folk" will be rape of families by soldiers who refuse to fight.
>Special Military Operation in Ukraine
Call me when the real war begins
>Russia is going to lose its entire military before a declaration of war is made
You love to see it.
How do they refuse? Are the ones on contract allowed to quit any time they feel like it?
Well yeah, even in Russia soldiers are not slaves, unless you are poor Donbass separatist aged 17-64, but they only became Russian citizens in 2014 so nobody cares about them
American soldiers cannot quit anytime
Good.
Legally this is true but practically if you sit on the floor and just refuse to follow order in peacetime the military with just other-than-honorable discharge you because it's easier and quicker to do that then court martial you and house you in military prison.
AFAIK in the U.S. military, you enlist for a term, and you cannot simply say "hey, now that we're at war, I quit, I was just doing this for the dental plan and college tuition money."
You're saying Russian "contract" soldiers can just say "oh, now that you actually need me to fight, frick you!"?
That's exactly the case. In a state of war, refusal to fight as a russian contract soldier is an offence. In a special military operation (which isn't just a made up phrase but is an actual defined type of operation outside of a declared war) you are not contractually obliged to fight and cannot legally be sent into combat in the case of conscripts.
The government can't legally force you to go, why do you think the first wave of people to cross the border was tricked by telling them it was an exercise?
This is also why they are shaming them now, apparently there isn't much more they can do in the current circumstances.
I don't know the details of Russian military contracts, but when their unit got the order that they will be deployed, these people refused and were either put into other posts, or less likely imprisoned.
In my country they could face inter-military disciplinary action for this, or discharged, but it looks like we haven't reached WW2 levels yet where you can choose between the meatgrinder or the wall.
That's why Strelkov calls for mobilization and proper declaration of war since early March, you can't force people to fight until then
No war. No war tribunal.
Contract termination by soldier and just dishonorable discharge.
Based at-will employment working for the working man and not the gubburment
Because it is not a war, there is no obligation for them to fight. You can just refuse. Then two things happen. 1. You're moved to 'defend' an area in Russia or 2. You're fired. That's it. If they declared it a war, refusal to fight would lead to imprisonment. But they can't do that for political reasons.
Thanks, I guess I get it, sort of. In the U.S. military you aren't allowed to opt out even if we don't formally "declare war". Otherwise a lot more people would have refused to go to Iraq. I remember a couple of shitbirds refused, like one military dentist who was just in it for the student loan forgiveness.
What a shithole of a country you have there, Ivan.
This isnt even about weapons you wienerhole
Cry more.
Didn't the russians shell an LNR unit that was retreating yesterday?
Apparently. They are also already Dirlewanging around prisons.
Source?
We're gonna need a bigger board
well, they could let Trump build their wall of shame
These will be the heroes of russia.
Whats this? A sign of civil unrest and defeatism? But I thought the russian federation was a glorious muslamo-slavic utopia. It has to be a mistake. Obviously this is western propaganda, no-one would refuse to get on a seventy year old unarmoured artillery tractor with his hoes to face the dreaded nazi javelin-jews. Do we have an idea of when the FSB will be arriving to torture and gulag the defeatist scum that would dare put up such vile propaganda?
This post has convinced me that Russia is truly the totalitarian state run by utter mad and not based Putin
I wouldn't go that far. If it's totalitarian they wouldn't be able to quit in the first place.
Putin fricking wishes he could be half as totalitarian as his predecessors. He isn't that much of a psychopath though. Just a regular psychopath, not a Stalin tier psychopath.
If anyone here can think of a good way to track sales of methadone, we would have a way to find out when Russia is seriously drafting.
start handing out Feathers
>You, Pvt. Anonovsky, have been selected to fight in Chechnya.
>Well, that didn't work out. Let's go back in for a second time!
>Okay, much better, now it's time to invade Georgia.
>Mhm, great job, you even got a promotion to sergeant, Sgt. Anonovsky. Now go fight in Syria.
>Okay Sgt. Anonovsky, we know you just retired after fighting in Syria, but we need you in Ukraine now.
>Yes it's absolutely horrible over there.
>Yes our commanders are just as incompetent as in the previous wars.
>Yeah, it's technically not a war so we can't force you.
>Wha-You don't want to serve glorious Russia?? On the board of shame with you!
With the history that Russia has in how they've treated their war veterans, how fricking terrible their officers are, and how little they care about the life of regular troops, its a small miracle that anyone would want to fight for that shithole. Thought maybe the common russian from shitholeistan just was never told about those kind of inconvenient things.
>Donbass and genocide in quotation marks
Why are ukrainians so bad at creating fakes?
bump
Propaganda songs by the likes of Theobald of Navarre and Conon de Béthune relied heavily on shaming knights into joining the crusades, basically mocking excuses for staying back home with women and the elderly.
Though for Conon de Béthune in particular this did not work out so well, since there are also songs mercilessly mocking him for his propaganda efforts when he ended up joining in on sacking Constantinople, getting excommunicated and abandoning the crusading effort. I'm not sure if there are any with English translations but they are fricking savage, mostly because they address him personally ("Shut your damn mouth, Sir Conon; Now all know him as an unmanly man; Stay at home with your cowardly king; Shame! Shame to him and his songs! Shame to all who don't spit in his face! Let him know that when he dies and calls for the Lord, the Lord too has naught but shame for him!" etc.)