Sweden has STF. It should be open for the winter season until late April. Plenty of winter trails on lantmateriet SE - on the map dots are summer trails, dashes are marked winter trails . Pick one that connects different STF huts. Kungsleden in winter is good and relatively safe.
There is usually a lot of traffic on this trail, meaning you will meet several people groups every day and you don't have to break your own trail in the snow. Abisko to Nikkaluokta, or Kvikkjokk to Saltoluokta are popular winter sections.
However it can get to -30C if you are unlucky. Also whiteout can happen unexpectedly if fresh snow gets blown up into the air.
No signal for the northern sections. In the south you might get lucky. If it's your first time and alone I would take an inreach just to be safe.
If you walk the trail only in the footsteps of others you might not need skis or snow shoes. There are some crazy people who go without both.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'll probably do the south, assume its the least remote?
Power is only at fjellstations. Those are in Abisko, Saltoluokta, Kvikkjokk, Hemavan only.
Thanks. I'll take some power banks as backup
1 year ago
Anonymous
>South is less remote
The northern part is actually more well traveled and has better infrastructure. Just no cellphone reception.
I never did the whole thing in winter but there are a lot of frozen lakes to cross on the winter trail you have to navigate those by hand because there are no trail markers on the lake obviously.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I see.
Would I be able to get to/from trailheads using public transport? Don't really want to do more than a week but can do up to 2
1 year ago
Anonymous
There is good public transport in winter to Kvikkjokk and Abisko.
Not sure about Saltoluokta-Kebnats, here is usually a flixbus in summer.
Nikkaluokta is prebooked bus or taxi only in the winter.
If I could go I would do a one or two week round tour from Kvikkjokk to Saltoluokta and back again if there is no transport available in Saltoluokta. There are lots of beautiful winter spots to explore next to the trail and around the Sarek national park.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>one or two week round tour from Kvikkjokk to Saltoluokta
I'll look into that
>will it be doable without skis in February
You will get insanely hot when you are just walking, even in -20C conditions. You just need to pack for when you are not moving. Dry change of underlayer and socks, a warm hoodie or a wool shirt that will keep in the warmth, etc
>limited winter experience >scandinavia >snowshoes >january
dont do it, visit some winter theme hotel up north and get a guided snowmobile excursion, sleep in a ice hotel, look at the northern light, be the tourist you are its nothing shamefull about it. but dont do what you talk about.
Its a challenge for a winter scandi noob but not impossible or dangerous.
>one or two week round tour from Kvikkjokk to Saltoluokta
I'll look into that
actually I can be your guide for free if you want to go Kvikkjokk - Sarek - Saltoluokta area. Its doable with just shoeshows because of the steady snowmobile and ski traffic on the trails. I need to get out of the city anyways.
>limited winter experience
If you're trying to die you will do great here this time of year. >I've got a warm sleeping bag setup so should be ok
No you don't, and it will not be ok
I'm not paying thousands to stay in a larp hotel, I'd rather take the risk and do something real even if it means going hut-to-hut.
I'm going to be down in Italian alps for a week and have some time to finish my winter kit
Snow melt around May-June.
Won't be around then
Its a challenge for a winter scandi noob but not impossible or dangerous.
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actually I can be your guide for free if you want to go Kvikkjokk - Sarek - Saltoluokta area. Its doable with just shoeshows because of the steady snowmobile and ski traffic on the trails. I need to get out of the city anyways.
Perhaps, not sure about meeting up with people from PrepHole
>limited winter experience
If you're trying to die you will do great here this time of year. >I've got a warm sleeping bag setup so should be ok
No you don't, and it will not be ok
>Perhaps, not sure about meeting up with people from PrepHole
Maybe a good idea. I'm here for a reason 🙂 and not on mainstream outdoorsites.
I have decided to do the Kungsleden north to south starting around 20. or 25. February when the huts open until Saltoluokta or Kvikkjokk, I have three weeks of time but might only do ten days or two weeks. If I hadn't seen your thread I might not have thought about it yesterday and today, so thanks I guess. Add me on disc infi#8789 if you have questions or want to make plans. No guarantees though, things might not work out for whatever reason since I don't know you.
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I'm not paying thousands to stay in a larp hotel, I'd rather take the risk and do something real even if it means going hut-to-hut.
I'm going to be down in Italian alps for a week and have some time to finish my winter kit
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Won't be around then
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Perhaps, not sure about meeting up with people from PrepHole
I will. You are German then?
This might interest you:
https://www.wowirsind.com/kungsleden-winter/index.html
It's almost foolproof if you do just a section of the trail.
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go to albania a real outdoors country
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b***h ass cracka
i hope the scandanavians speer u to death motha fricka, satanic cracka
go to albania a real outdoors country
but u prob be satanic chicken shit trash who dont be acceptin jesus and thas why u be xenofobic, homie
b***h ass cracka
Who knows with the weather these, one day it's +4 and sunny, next day freezing and snow. It's only January so well probably have at least a few days of snow in February - March.
Tiveden national park or glaskogen. Should be pretty empty in winter. Avoid during the hiking season.
Expect rain, slush, snow, no sun. Those are tough conditions. You have to go there with a mission or challenge in mind or you won't enjoy the wet.
It's much more enjoyable in the north where it's colder and not so wet.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Expect rain, slush, snow, no sun
Sounds like the UK but with trees, don't mind the wet.
I'll save the north for summer and next winter when I have some experience
Bears should be sleeping. I recall someone accidentally woke up a bear and got quite injured maybe even died but that was like 10 years ago.
We don't have elk. I don't think 'kronhjort' cause any problem.
Moose probably cause more car accidents than any attacks on humans, you're lucky to see one. Just don't bother them if you do.
are ticks starting to come out again in south norway? temperatures are rising now and they were out really early february last year, wanted to sleep without a bug bivy again this week hopefully next winder is more snowy 🙁
Man I hope not, been spoilt with the lack of bugs over here
are ticks starting to come out again in south norway? temperatures are rising now and they were out really early february last year, wanted to sleep without a bug bivy again this week hopefully next winder is more snowy 🙁
Does Sweden have an equivalent of Norway's DNT huts and will there be anything I can do without skis - I have snowshoes if that helps?
Sweden has STF. It should be open for the winter season until late April. Plenty of winter trails on lantmateriet SE - on the map dots are summer trails, dashes are marked winter trails . Pick one that connects different STF huts. Kungsleden in winter is good and relatively safe.
I'll look at those huts.
Kungsleden only looks to get around to -10C, will it be doable without skis in February?
There is usually a lot of traffic on this trail, meaning you will meet several people groups every day and you don't have to break your own trail in the snow. Abisko to Nikkaluokta, or Kvikkjokk to Saltoluokta are popular winter sections.
However it can get to -30C if you are unlucky. Also whiteout can happen unexpectedly if fresh snow gets blown up into the air.
I've got a warm sleeping bag setup so should be ok, don't get too cold either.
Will there be power/signal at the huts or should I pack an inreach?
No signal for the northern sections. In the south you might get lucky. If it's your first time and alone I would take an inreach just to be safe.
If you walk the trail only in the footsteps of others you might not need skis or snow shoes. There are some crazy people who go without both.
I'll probably do the south, assume its the least remote?
Thanks. I'll take some power banks as backup
>South is less remote
The northern part is actually more well traveled and has better infrastructure. Just no cellphone reception.
I never did the whole thing in winter but there are a lot of frozen lakes to cross on the winter trail you have to navigate those by hand because there are no trail markers on the lake obviously.
I see.
Would I be able to get to/from trailheads using public transport? Don't really want to do more than a week but can do up to 2
There is good public transport in winter to Kvikkjokk and Abisko.
Not sure about Saltoluokta-Kebnats, here is usually a flixbus in summer.
Nikkaluokta is prebooked bus or taxi only in the winter.
If I could go I would do a one or two week round tour from Kvikkjokk to Saltoluokta and back again if there is no transport available in Saltoluokta. There are lots of beautiful winter spots to explore next to the trail and around the Sarek national park.
>one or two week round tour from Kvikkjokk to Saltoluokta
I'll look into that
Power is only at fjellstations. Those are in Abisko, Saltoluokta, Kvikkjokk, Hemavan only.
Snow melt around May-June.
>will it be doable without skis in February
You will get insanely hot when you are just walking, even in -20C conditions. You just need to pack for when you are not moving. Dry change of underlayer and socks, a warm hoodie or a wool shirt that will keep in the warmth, etc
>limited winter experience
>scandinavia
>snowshoes
>january
dont do it, visit some winter theme hotel up north and get a guided snowmobile excursion, sleep in a ice hotel, look at the northern light, be the tourist you are its nothing shamefull about it. but dont do what you talk about.
Its a challenge for a winter scandi noob but not impossible or dangerous.
actually I can be your guide for free if you want to go Kvikkjokk - Sarek - Saltoluokta area. Its doable with just shoeshows because of the steady snowmobile and ski traffic on the trails. I need to get out of the city anyways.
I'm not paying thousands to stay in a larp hotel, I'd rather take the risk and do something real even if it means going hut-to-hut.
I'm going to be down in Italian alps for a week and have some time to finish my winter kit
Won't be around then
Perhaps, not sure about meeting up with people from PrepHole
>limited winter experience
If you're trying to die you will do great here this time of year.
>I've got a warm sleeping bag setup so should be ok
No you don't, and it will not be ok
>Perhaps, not sure about meeting up with people from PrepHole
Maybe a good idea. I'm here for a reason 🙂 and not on mainstream outdoorsites.
I have decided to do the Kungsleden north to south starting around 20. or 25. February when the huts open until Saltoluokta or Kvikkjokk, I have three weeks of time but might only do ten days or two weeks. If I hadn't seen your thread I might not have thought about it yesterday and today, so thanks I guess. Add me on disc infi#8789 if you have questions or want to make plans. No guarantees though, things might not work out for whatever reason since I don't know you.
there you go:
wrong ref
Not had discord in a while - would have to setup.
Similar timeframes as me, so look out for Toby if you're at any of the huts
I will. You are German then?
This might interest you:
https://www.wowirsind.com/kungsleden-winter/index.html
It's almost foolproof if you do just a section of the trail.
Coming from England. Will take a look at those sections
i hope the scandanavians speer u to death motha fricka, satanic cracka
go to albania a real outdoors country
but u prob be satanic chicken shit trash who dont be acceptin jesus and thas why u be xenofobic, homie
b***h ass cracka
I can't enter France. How am I meant to get there?
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Not OP, but does anyone know what Sweden south of Stockholm is like in February?
Weather maps are showing it as around -2C, will it be snowy or boggy? Any recommendations for an old-growth forest?
No snow in Stockholm.
Does it stay that way?
Who knows with the weather these, one day it's +4 and sunny, next day freezing and snow. It's only January so well probably have at least a few days of snow in February - March.
Pic is 1 april last year.
I'll pack expecting snow then
Tiveden national park or glaskogen. Should be pretty empty in winter. Avoid during the hiking season.
Expect rain, slush, snow, no sun. Those are tough conditions. You have to go there with a mission or challenge in mind or you won't enjoy the wet.
It's much more enjoyable in the north where it's colder and not so wet.
>Expect rain, slush, snow, no sun
Sounds like the UK but with trees, don't mind the wet.
I'll save the north for summer and next winter when I have some experience
don't go. even may month can be tricky with difficult snow, mud and lots of water...
What are bears and elk like in Feb/Mars, should I get some defence?
Bears should be sleeping. I recall someone accidentally woke up a bear and got quite injured maybe even died but that was like 10 years ago.
We don't have elk. I don't think 'kronhjort' cause any problem.
Moose probably cause more car accidents than any attacks on humans, you're lucky to see one. Just don't bother them if you do.
I should be fine camping with meats and dairy in my bag then?
Yes, although, I once had a rodent raid my tent munching it's way into the bread bag. So be aware.
I'll be hammocking so I should be good
Man I hope not, been spoilt with the lack of bugs over here
are ticks starting to come out again in south norway? temperatures are rising now and they were out really early february last year, wanted to sleep without a bug bivy again this week hopefully next winder is more snowy 🙁