Say what you will but I'm happy UL changed the mindset of carrying ginormous backpacks to go spend a few days in the woods.

Say what you will but I'm happy UL changed the mindset of carrying ginormous backpacks to go spend a few days in the woods.
Gear used to be bulkier but the amount of useless garbage boomers and survival/milgay types used to take with them was moronic.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You’ve got a point on the useless gear boomers used to take,
    But you ain’t ultra light my boy. Hikers like me laugh at shitheads like you. 15lb base weight? I’m 4lb base weight, and 80lbs lighter. I’m only putting 95lbs on the ground total. If I ever pass you on the trail (I’ll be at full sprint), you’ll see me smirk and know why.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ultralight is for speed
      Ray Jardine wrote his first book and kicked off the entire ultralight thing like 30 years ago and PrepHole still hasn’t caught on.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >a board on a Bosnian Feng Shui decorating forum doesn't do things the way my celebrity crush does, here's why that's bad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >speed
        >I want to spend as little time as possible at any given point in nature, and then when I finish I can throw my paper-thin, worn out gear directly in the trash can and buy more.

        No thanks, hippie.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sorry about those 2 posters reading comprehension, anon. They don't realize they agree with you

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sack of potatoes: 20lbs
    >weather balloon full of hydrogen: -20lbs
    >net weight: 0lbs
    problem, ultralightgays?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Came here to post this. If you're not filling your gear with hydrogen to reduce weight and provide backup fuel you're a boomer. You may not like it but this is what peak ultralight looks like.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Boomers
    Can afford to fly wherever the frick they like

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ultralight is great. I don’t need to permanently frick up my back after a decade of winter backpacking now.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    17 lb base weight with luxuries, generally. I like both foam (Switchback) and air mattress (Tensor) for sleep and 1st Need water purifier for excellent drinking. Everything else is UL.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >First Need
      Are those still around? They sure as frick aren't UL.
      We used to call it the "sneed". (firStNEED)
      Good ceramic matrix filter but chunky. Stupid plastic pump handle would snap in the cold.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's the only true purifier. Removes arsenic and lead from water contaminated by mine tailings. Used one for 25 years. My luxury item.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same, my backpack, tent and mat is ultralight so I can take whiskey and a few other non essentials. Long distance hiking for me is also a vacation, so I try to live it up as much as possible.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the PrepHole law on UL? Is it distance/gradient/time consneeded?
    I usually do 2 or 3 nights, out and back to primo sites. If it's about five miles out and less than 4k vert idgaf what my base(d) weight is, cause I'm not a twink and I carry lots of my wife's weight to keep her UL. I'll carry two chairs, burritos or chili verde and torts, and a water bottle of booze, though I'm not much of a drinker.
    If I were going for 20 mile days in steep terrain and leaving the nagger at home then UL all the way, but that's a rare trip for me.
    We still have light gear because why not but I doubt it matters much unless you're a hiking turbonerd.
    My kind of fun is the local training run which is 4k vert in 4 miles. (6000 asl to 10000). Get it done and have choco milk on ice waiting in the car.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My pack is 10lbs empty. Routinely go off trail exploring/trips for periods of time I don’t predetermine. I go in when I want, and come out when I want. 60lbs pack…no problem. But I also have a training routine that supports this kind of thing. If I’m hiking trails with my lady friend for a couple nights in the wild..sure, packing light is fun. But I grew up in the timberlands of the PNW..so just hiking some predetermined trail with a schedule and everything planned out…doesn’t really scratch the itch.

      Packing light has nothing to do with how big you're or how much your train, if you're carrying less weight you can move faster and more comfortably.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >being stronger doesn't make it easier to carry more weight
        >regular exercise won't improve your cardiovascular endurance
        >the only way you move faster is by packing light
        Okay buddy

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't understand what you mean. You can absolutely train to sustain performance at any pack weight but you'll move faster and enjoy a lower risk of injury at any strength level if you're carrying less.

          My pack is 10lbs empty. Routinely go off trail exploring/trips for periods of time I don’t predetermine. I go in when I want, and come out when I want. 60lbs pack…no problem. But I also have a training routine that supports this kind of thing. If I’m hiking trails with my lady friend for a couple nights in the wild..sure, packing light is fun. But I grew up in the timberlands of the PNW..so just hiking some predetermined trail with a schedule and everything planned out…doesn’t really scratch the itch.

          The only law is "whatever the hell you want to do" but I typically keep my setup as light and similar as possible across trips so I don't forget or misplace anything. I'll bring stuff like a book, alcohol, or a Stanley thermos full of coffee if my objective is to find a nook and just relax for a day or so.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Learn to read.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean I train rucking at 40-60lbs depending on the meso but when it comes time for "race day" (that days or weeks-long trek you've planned your year's vacation time around) knowing how to cut as much excess shit as you can is as valuable a skill as being able to carry more.

      Min-maxing one over the other is suboptimal. Shore up your weaknesses before chasing your strengths.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everything I own combined weighs less than that.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My pack is 10lbs empty. Routinely go off trail exploring/trips for periods of time I don’t predetermine. I go in when I want, and come out when I want. 60lbs pack…no problem. But I also have a training routine that supports this kind of thing. If I’m hiking trails with my lady friend for a couple nights in the wild..sure, packing light is fun. But I grew up in the timberlands of the PNW..so just hiking some predetermined trail with a schedule and everything planned out…doesn’t really scratch the itch.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't do anything in the woods so of course you don't need to bring anything. Some of us like to hunt and fish, build our shelters and furniture, and otherwise practice short term survival and long term subsistence skills that require significant experience to get good at like creating bows and arrows and traps, curing meat, brain tanning hides, making charcoal, weaving cordage, basic metalworking with scrap sources, game calling, but you don't need to worry about that stuff because you have no intention of living in nature whether by necessity or choice, you just want to walk somewhere, photograph some view at a designated overlook point on a trail, and then walk back, and call 911 when you get lost. You don't need gear to do that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is PrepHole's equivalent of navy seals pasta.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just the truth. If you're not doing anything then you don't need anything. The old timers were actually doing shit, that's why they carried gear. Read Kephart.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As meme worthy as the bush crafty chop chop justification is, yes. You are correct. When your only goal is to walk from point a to point b as fast as possible (because being slower means youre out the longer which means more consumables to carry) and all you need is food, barely enough water for half a day because you've mapped out and timed every water source in between, and a sleeping pad because it's summer your shit can be really fricking light.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >speed
        It really doesn’t end with you morons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm still faster because most of my basic survival gear is EDC, so my body is adapted to it.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ultralight gear is great because it makes it easier to bring all kinds of luxury garbage like my boomer dslr and tripod, field guides for bug and mushroom collecting and my binoculars.

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