Anon here who posted the apartment destruction thread. I've been in southeast Asia for the past few weeks and now there's a warrant for my arrest in the State of Utah. What's the reasoning? Second degree felony for purposeful apartment damage. I put sardines behind every power outlet, in every vent, in the furnace, in the refrigerator vents, in the stovetop. All I can say is that the test boost I've received from saying frick it has been extreme. Thank you to whoever proposed the squid idea. I had Like 30 cans of sardines lying around and I made the most of it.
>landlords hate him
Utah (and SLC specifically) is extremely pro-landlord, to the point where they act like cartoon villains
This motherfricker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Cullimore_Jr. has a law firm that makes bank from evicting tenants
Is OP a bit of a dumbass? sure. Do landlords here deserve it? Absolutely.
I pay 1 grand a month for a tiny ass studio in SLC and the property managers only have the building cleaned / fixed when someone complains.
And this is a good deal + situation by SLC standards
>a law firm that makes bank from evicting tenants
You mean landlords follow the legal remedies for evicting tenants, tenants get to respond and prevail if the landlord is in the wrong, and attorneys charge for that professional service?
How terrible that adults would act like adults, and operate their businesses within the law. Those landlords should just shove dead fish in the tenants cars heater vents or piss on their laundry or something, right?
>prevail if the landlord is in the wrong
The laws in Utah are some of the shittiest in the country, "right" and "wrong" do not equal morally / ethically correct here.
Look it up if you don't believe me
I'm all for acting like adults, I've kept the same lease for 5 years with no major rent increases by being a good tenant, etc.
But some landlords do really deserve the rope
>"right" and "wrong" do not equal morally / ethically correct here.
No, right and wrong always refer to morality and ethics, but standards of what is "lawful/legal" and "unlawful/illegal" may not align perfectly with peoples personal idea of what is morally/ ethically "wrong" or "right".
That's why laws and legal principles exist; they aren't perfect but they are superior to the alternative of the bigger buttholes' subjective "values" being the only thing guiding or constraining their retributive vigilantism.
One of the fundamental principles of enforceable civil contracts is that they are entered into voluntarily by legal adults people of sound mind. That completely negates any notion that one's later moral/ethical judgement justifies going outside of the legal remedies inherent in contract law.
You can argue that it does but the law DGAF, and by signing on the dotted line you agreed to be bound by that law. To reneg on that promise when the law you agreed to be held to doesn't satisfy your desired outcome is in fact immoral and unethical.
None of what you complain about is mandatory; don't rent in Utah and none of it applies to you.
Maybe you have autism, but I was referring to "right" and "wrong" in air quotes because "prevailing in court if the landlord is wrong" means legally right or wrong, not morally right or wrong.
Keep acting like a tough guy landlord, maybe you'll get sardined one day too kek
>prevailing in court if the landlord is wrong" means legally right or wrong, not morally right or wrong.
And...? Everybody knows that, or should by the time they are of legal age to sign contracts.
Don't like that paradigm, don't sign up for it.
Anyone who has ever dealt with renters also knows that they can and will do far worse than the sardine trick with ZERO justification, just because they can and they lie to themselves that they are morally "right" and justified. That's why the law contains remedies for that too, and landlords hire attorneys to assist in the process. There's nothing immoral or unethical about that, so grow up.
You can legally sign contract at 18, but your brain doesn't fully develop until around age 25. He's an idiot for sure, but it's not so b&w that when you turn 18 you suddenly are imbued with the knowledge of what a civil contract is.
israelite
You pay that because the system has to make money otherwise housing isnt offered and its a "crisis" so the government does it.
Owners and landlords literally have to pass these costs on.
1k a month? For your own place as a rentoid?
Not bad. Be nice to your landlord and ask em not to raise your rent when they try cuz of that. I bet it works
To add a little more light to it, since the property management bills the owner of each unit for all maintenance charges and expenses, the reason nothing happens unless someone complains is for people like me to do work its gotta become a work order then an invoice.
If you point a pothole out to a maintenance guy when im there to clear a drain, its not like i can drop everything and go get a bag of cold patch and fix that and bill it all to the unit with the drain.
I also cant go back and file the maintenace request myself, cuz a, frick you, and b, if i search for reasons to bill owners 80 bucks an hour without anyone conplaining they are going to be like wtf i dont care about potholes till people complain give me my money.
Everyone in this game thinks everyone else is made of money.
Just fricking submit a maintenance request. Then i can invoice it.
Dont just b***h here about it you limp wristed rentoid
Wow.
Im glad you view this as a win rather than ruining your life over nothing.
Like, they just asked you to sign another lease like the lease you had already signed last year said they could. And now you are being charged federally by the u.s.
Cool, dumbass.
>And now you are being charged federally by the u.s.
? It's definitely not federal. Also lmao heaven forbid I have to take my talents elsewhere. Whatever will I do?
You're right about it not being federal charges but when you go through customs to re-enter the US, the warrant will pop up and you'll be arrested on the spot and held for Utah. If you never plan to come to the US again, even for a layover, then there's not much for you to worry about. No one is going to have you extradited over apartment damage, though if you have any assets here, those could be seized.
>No one is going to have you extradited over apartment damage
i knew a guy who was extradited from Texas to Iowa over 2 bad checks totaling less than $250.
He's talking international extradition
>international extradition
It depends on the country. If the country has an extradition treaty then OP will be arrested there if he tries to use his passport for anything.
thats intradition, not extradition.
t. my crazy uncle does it for a living, moving Burgers from state to state for law enforcement
>i knew a guy who was extradited from Texas to Iowa
>thats intradition, not extradition.
Shithouse Lawyer
>Customs
He can just shuck back in from Mexico no prob frfr no cap
And then if he has any interaction with the police he's under arrest and facing trial for doing the deenz
>fly to Mexico
>stroll across the border
Hey, why not?
unless the landlord is a israelite. Then the us will get his ass.
I assume he doesn't plan on going back to mormonism
>they just asked you to sign another lease
They also offered him a month-to-month option.
No thats why hes pretending hes a victim.
Original lease was for a year, month to month after that, either party can renew anytime
Op wants this to mean he goes month to month after living there a year, when it was language to ensure there is a lease still in place if something gets messed up on the re signing process
Op was asked to re sign, given seven days to make a choice, decided this inhibited his freedoms so exercised his freedoms to become a criminal.
What a dumbass. I mean victory.
The landlord and building owner never take the L here. They pay people to clean it up and raise rents on all their units to deal with this kinda shit
Hes a felon, and everyone hates renters.
What a win
>Op was asked to re sign, given seven days to make a choice
And if he didn’t sign then it went to month-to-month. At that point the property manager could have given OP a 30 day notice to quit. If that happened then OP could have walked away clean. Instead he pushed deenz into every crevice.
>The landlord and building owner never take the L here. They pay people to clean it up and raise rents on all their units to deal with this kinda shit
t. failed econ 101
My statement is still true, even if you have to cope some upon reading it.
Is what it is.
oh shit you're actually right. they're now gonna charge $1500 for their shithole slum apartments. maybe they should pay ME for causing the damage cuz they're gonna make so much money now. truly it was because they're such good property managers that rent wasn't already 1million dollars a month. This isn't a mom and pop company, moron. Their insurance will go up and they'll have to be slight more picky on who they let in. Rent will not be going up because apartment 4704 out of 10000 was condemned.
Yes that's the point. It's fun for me and there's 0 negative consequences on my end. I'm not gonna go Ted K on them. They're just slumlords.
>NOOOO DONT U WANNA COME BACK TO OUR SHITHOLE?
No, I'm happy in East Asia.
You just pointed out the futility of what you did as the 1 out of 10000.
Your acting like they are wearing a pikachu face shocked and now have to recoup costs. You think no one has seen as big a shithead as you coming?
It may be your first go round, but not everyone elses.
Your just not controlling this like you think. Everyone else has prolly moved on. You skipping the country just means the charges stick with 0 effort from their end, when if they were gonna not like a thing, it was the lawyer time spent on you.
Enjoy not America dumbass. Forever
>rent will not go up
Yes it will because they will put on a new coat of paint, change the doors and put some vinyl flooring here and there and call it a "renovated apartment".
Spending money to fix something does not raise demand for it.
Fresh finishes get higher rents.
Shithead OP was responding to the (valid) claim that the repair costs he incurred would be passed on to other tenants, saying that the property and management company were so big that one apartment being offline wouldn't matter so his actions didn't cause other tenants to be illegitimate targets of his vigilantism.
He's totally wrong; rents will continue to rise as usual, and the cost of repairs will be factored into the rent whether it gets paid out of pocket or by insurance. Same for carrying costs for an un- rentable unit.
Of course if insurance is involved, those claim payouts will also factor into premiums, and not just for that LL but across the industry. This extra cost of doing business that has to be paid for in a real business that isn't a charity will then be used by shitheads like the OP to cry "GREED!" when they encounter rent prices they don't like.
But it will also affect non- shithead renters as well, and not just the fellow tenants whose building the shithead OP defiled, but all of them.
So he wasn't talking about his individual unit...but even if he were, unless someone moves back out in a month the market rate for residential rentals goes up with each new tenant because everything goes up all the time, regardless of any other factors. It's especially true with residential property rentals where demand may wax and wane but the *supply* is nearly always lower than demand and that isn't likely to change soon.
>vigilantism
Don't sugar-coat OP's behavior. It was pure vandalism.
Vigilantism is higher on the scale than vandalism; the latter can be for any or no reason and only involves property, while vigilantism is by definition a usurpation of force of law by people who have no business making law or adjudicatiing people guilty and enforcing the law, even when it is an actual law.
It doesnt just affect a single party whose property is vandalized- it doesnt even have to involve physical harm and can be done through intimidation. Besides any direct victims, vigilantism of any kind is an offense against the rule of law and by extension, society as a whole.
>Vigilantism is higher on the scale than vandalism
The scale of what?
>the latter can be for any or no reason and only involves property
That is what happened in this case.
>vigilantism is by definition a usurpation of force of law
The law does not require anyone to sign a lease.
>even when it is an actual law.
That's why vigilantism is more noble than vandalism.
>The scale of what?
The scale of criminality, the scale of severity of punishment...are you moronic? You are the one who introduced the idea of a gradation.
>That is what happened in this case.
Wrong; OP admits to seeking to punish the landlord through loss of rental income, which goes far beyond mere vandalism
is by definition a usurpation of force of law
>The law does not require anyone to sign a lease.
You really are moronic. The law of rental contracts is very clear about the rights and responsibilities of both parties in the event of a dispute, and lays out very specific actions for seeking compensation that must/must not be taken. Guess which category vandalism AND vigilantism fall under?
>That's why vigilantism is more noble than vandalism.
You keep acting like they are entirely different things, in this case the OP admits to committing acts of vandalism for the purpose of bypassing the legal remedies he agreed to be held to when he signed the lease, so that he can be the judge and issue his own punishments for what he percieves as wrongs committed against him.
Vandalism as a form of "justice" meted out after you take the law into your own hands (including contract law) is both vandalism *and* vigilantism, and the latter is a far more serious crime than vandalism alone.
Saying as much isn't "sugarcoating" anything, calling it "noble" is.
tl;dr : frick off leave
While I'm not going to shed a tear for landlords, it's only true to a level. The landlord cannot afford to put the rent much higher than the norm. For damage like that, they have to take some of the loss. It's not like they break even, for sure, but I can imagine a landlord could sell if they had to deal with that kind of shit every other month.
>It's not like they break even
I meant to say it's not like they aren't making profits anymore, but...
Yea, true to the level of a deductible on an insurance policy, which is a cost absolutely built into leases. a single unit's deductible would rarely, if ever, sink an owner that uses a management company. They never only have one house.
And yea, if it does become an insurance claim, it gets re done nicer and rented for more.
>And now you are being charged federally by the u.s
The takeaway from this should be that a landlord can stick sardines in his outlets after you leave and have you charged with a crime if he doesn't like you thereby ruining your life.
Why don't NPCs ever question the system?
Well thats the beauty of the innocent till proven guilty part of american law.
They have to prove it in court, which if you havent done that, is pretty much impossible. Like, burden of proof is on them. Its nice.
Ive defended myself against someone who was lying. It was stressful, but nothing bad or un just happened.
Doesnt mean if you sardine your apartment you are gonna get away with it, especially if you flee or lie
>They have to prove it in court, which if you havent done that, is pretty much impossible. Like, burden of proof is on them. Its nice.
But if you don't show up for your own defense, then you're pretty much going to get railroaded.
A free tip to OP and any other petty, childish, degens who are looking to pull some shit like this: go to an asian grocery store and buy dried anchovies. Powder them in a blender or grinder, then rub the powder under countertops, into carpets, etc. Slowly, the powder will absorb moisture from the air and they will rot, and because they're powdered, they'll never be able to find where its coming from. And they won't bust you for putting sardines in an electrical outlet like moron OP. If you do it shortly before the walkthrough, they won't even know its happened yet.
Works with rental cars too.
revenge is never a good idea. But, a real man has to do it. Sorry you can't relate.
I disagree.
Committing crimes is never a good idea.
Revenge and committing crimes often, but don't always overlap. My view of masculinity acknowledges it takes more strength to do just enough than too much
I dont rent
shut up wit dat talk you cracka...you finnna sardined too homie. go raise your own kids what you think this is
Well, you've sunk to ebonics and insults so theres no where else to go. Cangratulations on reaching the bottom.
I already said it was never a good idea, please don't bother correcting me until you learn how to read.
Spineless.
state felony != federal felony
moron, but you thought you could call anyone else a dumbass today
Yeah but it's funny tho
this is the most underaged post i've seen in a while
Insanely based. Frick some ladyboys for me. I'll pour one out for you tomorrow.
Landlords(blackrock(jews)) get the rope
Not a crime. This is a matter between you and the landlord, and not between you and the government. All the landlord can do is sue you. Unless the sardines in the outlets posed a fire hazard or some shit.
Landlord was israeli. Op is lucky he isn't being charged with first degree holocaust with anti Semitic hate crime multiplier. That's 6 billion years in jail if convicted
Have you considered being funny
We'll take that as "no"
Destruction of property is a crime.
Pushing it to a felony is probably a stretch. Kind of depends of the property damage amount has been raised to keep up with inflation, either way the landlord is probably over quot9ng for damages. Op could/will almost definitely by found liable for whatever number the landlord makes up to completely replace the apartment or whatever.
Generally enough property damage raises to a felony, think of grand theft.
Fleeing the country and ignoring correspondence also shows he meant to do some I'll shit and planned to get away with it. That's a mark against you too.
>op can never return to the US
And nothing of value was lost.
Setting fish to rot inside the walls can cause serious damage, depending on how long it went before anyone noticed it could have rendered not just his space but that of his neighbors to be in a state of being absolutely putrid and unlivable.
Oy vey the fish were very hurtful to my property and set me back several months in fact years that I was unable to rent out the house. My family depends on that property income and my children have suffered emotional damage.
good
>go to court
>”anon damaged his apartment to the amount of X dollars! He is liable upon move out!”
>”prove it.”
>”here are pictures.”
>”no, prove I put those fish there. Prove you didn’t do this just to get some quick money. You can’t.”
Case closed unless he has cameras.
Who's saying "prove it?"
its obvious that you have no experience in life nor perspective about how the legal system operates.
They do not have to "prove" that you did something in an indisputable and absolute way; they only have to convince a judge/jury.
The landlord can show that they had to evict OP. They are able to demonstrate that:
1. OP is a shiftless antisocial shitbag who doesn't play by the rules, because only such shitbags get evicted
2. 'Someone' put sardines everywhere and caused property damage intentionally, because there is no reasonable way that this would be an accident lol
3. OP didn't bother to show up or contest the charges in any way, which is not the behavior of an innocent person.
It doesn't matter that these things aren't indisputably true. They're still true.
4. A fricking thread and a legacy immortalized in screencap format exist on fricking PrepHole.
>Only the ownership and their hired staff have access other than the lessee
>They literally have zero financial motive to do something like that, which would require massive expense to repair and leave a unit unoccupied and not producing revenue for the duration, plus potential losses from adjacent units
They don't need to have CSI-level evidence it was you. You are the one who had the access, motive, and circumstances of skipping your lease and fleeing the country.
Yeah, I looked into it and the fact it was deliberate makes it criminal mishtief however that's spelled
You can't prove it was deliberate though. Maybe he just ran out of places to store his deenz. Nobody can argue he did it on purpose unless he confesses.
Sardines behind every power outlet guys. Gonna say it would be pretty easy to establish that as intentional and mischievous.
They cannot prove the tenant did it. For all we know it was the landlord trying to frame him to keep his deposit.
Or those kids who broke into the house when it was empty.
It's a man's word against the other, no way they actually ordered an arrest based on an accusation.
Then he fled the country and ignored attempts to reach him
>he left the country and they blamed him
cool it with the antisemitism... some ~~*people*~~ leave the country all the time.
Had he showed up for court, a competent lawyer could argue that the animosity between the tenant and the landlord lead to a revenge act.
But since he didn't show it now looks bad and will only make the situation worse.
Ok should have put a termite queen in the walls. Would have been a better outcome.
And the prosecution could pretty easily tear up that with the fact that the "animosity" was from that he was confused he needs to sign a new lease every year.
Lol you're not a lawyer and clearly a landisraelite. It's a he said, she said. Could easily come up with times the landlord was a dick. This would have gone nowhere had he showed up.
>it's a he said, she said
But dead fish were found.
Maybe they swam in during the last flood.
At the end of the Younger Dryas period?
>Implying the landlord didn't keep an email papertrail
>Apartment clearly sabotaged by someone with access and motivation
Well he did confess. Multiple times. On a public forum
ok now convince a jury
>presents exhibit A: wall deenz
>enough for the whole jury
>mishtief however that's spelled
thanks counselor
>Not a crime. This is a matter between you and the landlord,
$1500 or more and it's a felony.
Effective 5/3/2023
76-6-106.1. Property damage or destruction.
(1) Terms defined in Sections 76-1-101.5 and 76-6-101 apply to this section.
(2) An actor commits property damage or destruction if the actor under circumstances not amounting to arson or criminal mischief:
(a) damages or destroys property with the intention of defrauding an insurer; or
(b) intentionally damages, defaces, or destroys the property of another.
(3)
(a)
(i) Except as provided in Subsection (3)(a)(ii), a violation of Subsection (2)(a) is a third degree felony.
(ii) A violation of Subsection (2)(a) is a second degree felony if the actor's conduct causes or is intended to cause pecuniary loss equal to or in excess of $5,000.
(b) A violation of Subsection (2)(b) is a:
(i) second degree felony if the actor's conduct causes or is intended to cause pecuniary loss equal to or in excess of $5,000 in value;
(ii) third degree felony if the actor's conduct causes or is intended to cause pecuniary loss equal to or in excess of $1,500 but is less than $5,000 in value;
(iii) class A misdemeanor if the actor's conduct causes or is intended to cause pecuniary loss equal to or in excess of $500 but is less than $1,500 in value; and
(iv) class B misdemeanor if the actor's conduct causes or is intended to cause pecuniary loss less than $500 in value.
(4) In determining the value of damages under this section, or for computer crimes under Section 76-6-703, the value of any item, computer, computer network, computer property, computer services, software, or data includes the measurable value of the loss of use of the items and the measurable cost to replace or restore the items.
Enacted by Chapter 111, 2023 General Session
nice...brings back some memories...
>8th grade
>one kid is super tall because he was held back and given steroids for sportsball
>he hides a ziplock bag holding 3 whole fish behind the books on a high shelf that only he could physically reach while standing on a desk
>smells a little fishy for a few weeks, but the teacher sprays some lysol to hide it
>frick it, open up the bag
>unbearable smell for a few days before they the bag is found
>too late though, the smell is infused and the last month of the year we have to deal with it for that period (poor teacher had to be in there all day though)
>even next year, younger sister reports the room still smells like rotten fish
wanted to reply with a joke but it is too easy and inappropriate so i won't
>11 minutes
Maybe your sister just lacks proper hygiene.
Now I get why rentoids get treated like the shit they are.
You're right, I should've just turned the other cheek for them. I'm sure God truly cares about Sardines and landlords
What ya in for, new fish
Bullshit, they don't post a warrant for having destroyed an apartment. They would for failure to appear in court however, but there is no way you could have gotten a court date so quick.
Based, frick landlords and real estate speculation.
Sounds like BS, there's no way they can prove you did it unless you confess. And how could they order your arrest (over a civil matter, no less) if there's no proof and you haven't received the opportunity to defend yourself? They need to notify you first.
Like I mentioned, if any of this is real, then he was summoned in court and he failed to appear, thus the warrant for his arrest. On discovery, the landlord provided evidence, and with OP absent from the procedures, the prosecutor has allowed the trial by default. A date was set and OP missed it. Being an indictable offense, an arrest warrant has been issued.
should have gone with rat or mice instead you moron
OP is fake and dumb. I've done the exact same thing to an butthole greedy landlord, but I took the time to actually grind the fish to a pulp first, so if they ever found it there would no evidence. OP went and "hid" a whole fricking fish in the walls.
How does pulping the fish cover your tracks
>Ah damn the fish is pulped instead of whole, there's nothing we can do here boys
homie, they're sardines from a can and I spooned them out into little pieces. If you think that's gonna be easy to get out of the vents ur jokin m8.
I think anon means that a whole fricking fish is too obvious as mischief, while some unidentified malodorous substance leaves plausible deniability that it's rodents or who knows what.
Better yet, dont commit crimes.
Show up in your property managers office, and be as obnoxious as possible without crossing the hate speech conduct line.
If you want a test boost, call someone a worthless slimeball to their face in their own office. Not a crime. You can even say things reaaally low. Like low low. As long as its just words.
Literally the owner of the house and property manager will probably not spend more than ten minutes smelling these, if that.
Just dont get how this is a win. Criminal charges, missing the point completely and passing off the cost of being a shithead to others, while describing onesself with victorious language.
What a moron
Yeah.
"Accidentally spilling" a gallon of diesel on the floor works a lot better to cause massive property damage. The sardines plan is ridiculously contrived and does not achieve more.
If you are invariably be on the hook for petty shit, not looking like an unhinged character might award you some sympathy. "I was in a hurry to leave, I spilled some and mopped it but I thought it did not smell anymore" works better than "yeah I don't know why I put sardines behind the outlets".
>be obnoxious
>call him an ugly mean guy
>above all abide by the lawwr!
That's the wimpiest, most American thing ever.The greedy butthole landlord is just going to laugh to his face all the way to the bank while he sucks another desperate rentoid dry, who will move in the next day.
The apartment I sardined took over six months to get rented out again, that meant thousands of dollars in losses for the b***h who had just inherited it and wanted to extort me.
Also, she ended up having to rent it out for a lower price than what I had been paying.
Revenge is sweet when done right.
>hate speech
>reddit spacing
>hate speech conduct line.
>spamming posts defending israelite landlords
>constant reddit spacing
sad
Seethe
Havent you gotten over b***hing about post formatting?
How many years has it been?
Space is a choice. Its not nothing, it's how I like my posts to look.
>it's how I like my posts to look.
And they look moronic, every single post the same, you are clearly autistic.
Oh look another moron.
My disdain for you is shown by my phone posting and lack of spelling correction. You are not worth hitting backspace. If you can't understand its because frick you. You are not worth turning on my computer.
You are the dumb frick tourist that thinks reddit spacing is real.
Reddit spacing is
Three CR anyway because reddit used to remove one Cr because they thought the natural paragraph breaks everyonenwrote with sinceemail/bbs/web forum days was ugly so they tried to remove it from user posts. Users countered by putting an extra CR in. You are the reddit poster by imitating their style and by trying to convince people redditnspacing matters.
Frick off.
>he literally believes reddit spacing is a thing and tries to hide hisbori9gns by 'not reddit spacing
You javelin to go back
Why did Op flip out so badly? Like why the anger at your landlord?
Also very important question, why did you have 30 cans of sardines just lying around?
Are you the Penguin? Is this your origin story?
Sounds like a Judge Judy episode.
There are infinitely better ways to traumatize some shithead for life than putting sardines throughout a house, but of course it takes effort and intelligence which 95% of people don't have. Property damage 99% of the time is just wrong period, usually because of how wasteful it ends up being, and in the big picture its just inconsequential.
youre welcome... and yes it was me with the squid in the vents idea. it works
>it works
digits confirm
Should have bought a ton of dead frozen rats instead.
is it that much worse? I left before the smell got too bad but I was under the impression that rotting fatty fish is the worst
idiot, they can't blame you for the dead rotting rats
>No, I'm happy in East Asia.
Place scares me. Get kidnapped and end up in some gang run internet work farm. They got that shit in Myanmar, run by chinese gangs. People have to spend all day running crypto scams on middle aged ladies. 8 guys to a tiny bedroom. At least you can buy serious drugs at the commissary like speed and MDMA. And they usually have a brothel in the camp too.
>idiot, they can't blame you for the dead rotting rats
>huh, interesting how a giant mass of dead rats appeared in every crevice of this apartment after this disgruntled tenant left, despite the fact that rats eat their dead and there's no rat nest, a real mystery
> >huh, interesting how a giant mass of dead rats appeared in every crevice of this apartment after this disgruntled tenant left, despite the fact that rats eat their dead and there's no rat nest, a real mystery
At least there is some plausible deniability there.
I can totally see you calling Charlie to the stand to talk about rat law.
They don't do that to white people anon,its only escapees from myanmar and north korea and other people being smuggled around
Ah ok. The guy I read about was Chinese and had tech experience. But that makes sense… he was able to get out when his family bribed some local Chinese general to go over there and get him out.
It just seems too easy for someone to drop your ass in prison or forced labor, and not much you can do about it.
>light computer work
>prostitutes and xtc available in a commissary store
Maybe not the best life ever, but certainly not the worst either
The most that an action like this could cause is a downturn in positive cash flow for a couple months enough to be noticed
Like, oh apartment xxxx had a hiccup but the rest of your units are all filled so after all the fees, costs and maintenance your check to live i. Brazil this month is xxxx.
Most an owner is gonna say is wtf, the property manager will be like i know, now hes a felon, both will say what a dumbass and move on.
Hey OP, uh what part of Utah if you don't kind me asking? ( don't worry about getting too specific if you don't want to, a town or zip code would do if you like)
The reason I ask is because I just did a cleanup job after some tenants that made the place a complete fricking rat nest. Just curious.
84123, edge of SLC/Taylorsville
don't worry anon, outside of this post they will NEVER be able to prove you put sardines behind every outlet, vent, etc in a court of law
you can literally just say "lolwut? dindu nuffin" and they won't be able to prove shit
He can't say anything if he's hiding out in an asian slum.
State felonies are still subject to extradition.
innocent until proven guilty my ass, then
OP can DIY himself legal representation in court
So if you hide from court then you’re innocent?
quite literally yes that's how everyone gets away with everything in america
someone wants a restraining order against you? don't be around to get served
someone wants to sue you?
don't be around to get served
they can't do a damn thing about it
our justice system is full of clown shit
you never had to DIY yourself out of jail before
No, because I'm not the kind of moron you clearly are.
if the court system is for morons then why do people who have Ph.D's end up in prison, anon?
There are many ways in which to be moronic
so how about you 2 geniuses go DIY solve the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF UNSOLVED MURDERS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, then?
shouldn't be hard, since everyone is a moron who is just playing stupid games, right hot shot?
Enjoy your cell, dumbfricks.
>doesn't know about bail either
dude just shut the frick up, you do not know how the legal system works at all
>getting bail after being extradited out of a human smuggling ring
Lol
Lmao ecen
yeah you're a fricking idiot, stop replying or else you will be extradited back to tiktok with the other morons who thought movies was real life
No, not the court system, you are a moron who thinks he can play stupid games and avoid the prizes by playing even stupider games.
>t. b***h boy who would take the first plea deal offered by a lazy fat moronic prosecutor who knows he can't prove shit about his own dick in a court of law against you if you just say "no" and request a trial
hahahaha cuck, enjoy getting your civil liberties trampled on and thinking YOU are the smart one here
>don't be around to get served
So live out of your car or leave the country?
I've never understood this (not a burger), a messager has to reach you on foot? Like, if you were to successfully dodge the messenger, you're immune to any civil charges? Or can it be a mail delivery too?
>Like, if you were to successfully dodge the messenger, you're immune to any civil charges?
No, although the kinds of morons who get themselves rightfully sued refuse to believe otherwise.
If a good faith effort to personally serve someone fails, service by mail is acceptable and for deadbeat tenants you "nail & mail" by also tacking up a copy of the summons on the door.
You can also effect service by publishing notice publicly in a newspaper for a specified period of time.
At best, if someone legitimately doesn't know about the case the timeliness may be extended for a few weeks so they can prepare, but most morons who try dodging service make critical mistakes that prove they are just playing games, like going to court on the exact day and time the original summons called them to, and then claiming they never saw that summons. If they're lucky the judge will just laugh at them and say "Well, you obviously know about it now" and proceed.
If someone moves owing back rent and leaves no forwarding address, you just (registered) mail the summons to the residence address with return receipt requested and when it comes back you show that as proof of good faith and you're good to go.
I see, thanks for the explanation. It's sort of the same here in NL, you have to send a special kind of letter where the intended recipient has to sign for delivery, the mailman rings the door bell and one would have to successfully duck him and even then after what is considered due diligence you can assume the person is wilfully dodging you and you can even enact what can be translated as 'conservatory confiscation' where you can have the debtor's assets and even wages frozen without even having to prove you're right (as there hasn't been a court case). It can be easily undone but as you can guess that does require the debtor to come out of hiding and admit he's aware of the law suit kek
They don't need video evidence of it. He's the only one with motive, access, and opportunity.
Dunno. Spontaneously sardining wall access stankage is all the rave. Sayeth das juden.
he is not the only one with motive, access, and opportunity. don't you know even Utah has black people?
not to mention those kids that break in to places that are empty just for fun?
you are trying to imagine the world in a perfect clinical study with secured variables.
newsflash, buddy, the landlord himself also has motive access and opportunity to frame tenants to keep the security deposit, or sue for "damages" in a court of law.
it's just hearsay.
they quite indeed do need video evidence.
all OP has to do is keep his mouth shut and they can't prove a damn thing.
why do you think there's hundreds of thousands of unsolved murders in america?
because real killers just stay quiet.
>dindu nuffin
More like dindeenz nuffin
OP, if the warrant is brought before UT AG then to governor and the executive signs a proper extradition request, the request will be filed in a federal district court and US Marshalls. DHS gestapo will then seize your ass if you enter the US, file an address.with the post office, apply for a drivers license, try to establish credit or a public utility account or bank account etc.
Wherever you are staying now will also see you on the seize list if you attempt to board an international bound aircraft because DHS will upload to interpol and like. It' s global. There is no statute of limitations due to fugitive status.
If the israelite doesn't follow through, then the SOL applies and in [fill in the blank] years you'll be free of worries.
How likely is it an actual israelite will not pursue this? (cough cough)
Get thee to a good UT lawyer soon, at least by phone.
t. federal trial lawyer
>How likely is it an actual israelite will not pursue this? (cough cough)
How expensive would it be to pursue it?
>Second degree felony for purposeful apartment damage
Didn't steveo only get arrested for only vandalism for breaking into his neighbors apartment while on a drug binge?
This kinda shit is exactly why I'm glad we only use concrete and brick for buildings... Though it hasn't stopped schizos from trying before.
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Just don't go to that Moromon shithole and you'll be fine.
/fit/izen here, I came for interior design not to kek
I knew there was something "fishy" about this thread. 😀
did someone say Sardy Party?
Based come down here to Oz, we have dece healthcare.
One out of ten dies.
based deen enjoyer
>Seasons don't fear the reaper
>Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain
>We can be like they are
>Come on, baby (don't fear the reaper)
>Baby, take my hand (don't fear the reaper)
>We'll be able to fly
OP, here. When can I realistically return to the country (not Utah)?
When you feel like arguing a plea deal.
You can talk to a lawyer about it first. The lawyer can defend you so you don't get a summary judgment against you.
>get a summary judgment against you.
That’s only for the civil phase, expect several hundred thousand dollars because without a proper defense, the plaintiffs can claim anything.
But how could a judge accept hundreds of thousands in damages for a fishy smell?
>remove carpet and pad
>remove subfloor
>remove all sheet rock
>remove insulation
>remove affected outlets
>particle blast studs and joists
>restore electrical to modern code
>restore subfloor and sheet rock
>restore all fixtures and finishes
Don't forget repairs to adjacent units affected by it as well. Especially if the rot causes structural damage.
That's nowhere near 100k for a normal sized apartment. My family restored a 2 story house from the 50's for 40k.
you actually would need to repair all of the damage to claim it. you cannot claim damages for expenses you never incur.
Yes. Expect a thorough repair.
Bullshit, people are awarded financial compensation for property damages all the time based on professional estimates for repair costs for repairs that haven't actually been performed
You will most likely be arrested when you enter the country. You will then be extradited to Utah. You will not be granted bail, as you are a proven flight risk. You are clearly both poor and ignorant, so you wont be able to afford a “pay lawyer” as they say.
Their case might fall apart over time. In 10 years landlord might be dead. But I’m pretty confident you will frick it up once you are arrested. It is incredibly hard not to talk when police have you in a cell, or are pulling tricks on you. So you’ll frick up and admit that you knew about the warrant, or that you were angry at the landlord, or whatever and you’ll take a plea deal. Or you won’t and you’ll probably get a year or two, get out after a year and be on probation for a few years. I dunno. Do you have other convictions?
You really want to contact a lawyer before you try and enter the country. But I doubt you can afford one.
Whenever you feel like paying your ex landlord or going to prison
I also dumped my car full of firearms in some ranchers driveway ditch. Will they just assume I Sudoku?
What does this exactly do? Just smell bad? In my country all you have to do is give the keys to a gypsy family. It takes a hundred cops to get them out and they destroy everything in a matter of days.
no gypsies in america
There are blacks so maybe OP can use those. Maybe get the most insane looking crackheads from the street. If hes lucky theyll shit all over the place.
it's buttholes like you who make it worse for good tenants like me...i spend extra on flushable wet wipes and paper towels...
"Flushable" wet wipes aren't safe to flush.
frick you moron. do you know how many hoops I have to jump through due to all my assets/income being in crypto speculation? To that other guy, no I'm not poor but only the slums would rent out to me because tenants have turned to shit. And guess what? I've turned to shit as well. Frick you landisraelites. I will shit all over your assets. You will not touch mine.
>do you know how many hoops I have to jump through due to all my assets/income being in crypto speculation?
>Being this mad about self-inflicted financial difficulties
I don't have financial difficulties. I have $350k. AirBNBs don't ask for proof of income because I just pay. Black person apartments want to inspect my anus even though I've been a faithful tenant for the past decade. You guys are getting what's coming to you. There will be no safe holding real estate assets anymore. Stop paying the police and nobody's gonna evict for you
What are the benefits of sardining an apartment prior to leaving?
the deen fiend
In this thread; bootlickers as far as the eye can see
>Pointing out how fricking stupid, life-ruining OP's action was ans what the likely consequences will be instead of applauding him
>Hurr durr bootlickers durr
not the anon your replying to but you sound like a real onions homosexual
any attempt to spite the landlord scum, no matter how stupid, should be applauded
>Destroy your own life to moderately inconvenience the landlords instead of working to fix the system that enables them
OP is definitely bullshitting, but the idea is pretty good. The apartment is unusable and the dumbass landlord is induced to file an expensive lawsuit that will drag on for literal decades and never pay off.
>lawsuit
Criminal charges. Meanwhile insurance, most likely the renter's plan OP was already paying, had to shell out for remediation and repair.
>ve been in southeast Asia
just stay in Asia or come to Europe. It is extremely hard to release international warrant over this federal entity nonsense crap, so you will be super safe.
Source: Im a lawyer
f you get extradited to Utah because of wall sardines, I will eat a can of Soorstroming in your honor every damn year on 5th January!
Updates?
OP bought an interest in a Thai orchard and will live there with his Thai GF while enjoying a $30k/mo. income.
this thread is going to rival piss jug general isnt it
NGL, I miss white women but I'm comfy and my conscience is still clear. I'm not worried about extradition and I may return to a lefty state in a few years as I think our future social changes will make my little vigilantism act non-material. If I'm banned from middle America, so be it. American conservatism is just not conservative anymore.
Take all the time you need, cutie.
What conservatism do you miss? When we gave all the Iranians money. All the Nicaraguans, or all the cocaine and oil? Do we miss the liberals doing the same thing?
Or are we really just alarmed someone might stop the pedophiles?
Hey, what brought you to Thailand anyway?
I was raised by a man born in 1926. We're on completely different wavelengths. Christ is gone from conservative America.
Thanks for that passing the torch and everything.
Rat fleeing a sinking shit he lit on fire and stuffed sardines in.
> someone might stop the pedophiles
Jesus Christ can you people shut the frick already? I’m so tired of you fricking vax/Clinton/pedo/trans/groomer posters. Every fricking thread on this fricking site. Like can you all go 10 fricking minutes without spewing the same moronic shit, over and over and over. Are you like this IRL? Do you just spout about the israelites or pizza gate or the vax to everyone in your life?
It’s like a goddamn sickness inside you, rotting you from the inside. I’ll bet at home no one wants to listen to your endless shit. No one wants to listen to it here either.
It’s like the smell of piss on a mentally homeless man. Just having you around makes the place stick.
You are the Black folk of PrepHole.
What's the matter, pedo? Not a fan of being dragged into the light?
Look man, I harvest vaxxized organs, and children’s adrenochrome all day at work. They say “do some you love, and you’ll never work a day in your life”. But after 15 years of grooming orphans and dumping female hormones into the water supply, I like to come home and talk about some thing else. It’s like even my wife, I get home and she wants to talk about her tough day in middle school, and all the boys she grooming for us. I come here to talk about installing drywall, maybe how to fix a dishwasher pump, whatsoever while I sip on big glass of vodka and baby stem cells.
You’ve got plenty of places to chit chat about being a pedo, or your confused sexuality, or whatever thing you’ve been trained to be afraid of. You don’t have to do it everywhere. You know?
You can’t stop men from lusting after 10 year old Bussey anymore than you can catch us choosing the next president, stop year to year inflation, or drug and alcohol use.
Just take a step back, relax and be grateful that everything the system does for you. You wear clothes and use tech made by slaves in a country you’ve never even seen. The blood of children flows through everything American. If I have to feed a few kids into a blender in a red room for some rich Saudi kids, or set up a sniper nest for tourists to take pot shots at a locked down elementary school in Ghana - it’s not any different than your day to day job. We’re both cogs in a big machine that is lubed with blood and baby fat.
See, now you have me talking work and I just really wanna chill out.
So can you please just keep your babbling to boards where it belongs? You’re worse than those weed guys who talk about weed 24-7.
He's trying to be funny or sarcastic but after the the clinton orchard Grove costumes and the south Korean prime Minister scandals.... nah.
I habeeb it. This guy really sets up sniper nests for the plutocrats.
>This guy really sets up sniper nests for the plutocrats
Post Desert Storm was crazy. Saddam was hunting Shiites, US Military couldn't do shit and a lot of new contractors hit the market. Entire tribes getting merkd, lots of free meat. You also had fricked up Haliburton guys who had gotten the taste for it in Bosnia in 94, these guys are pulling fricking dump trucks of gold out of the sand, shipping priceless artifacts to europe and asia, kinds of money I hadn't seen before. And just a real fricking nastiness to it all. Look, there have always been people with exotic tastes, but something about the late 90s was new. Everyone acted like there was never going to be an accounting. Like they had something to prove, and maybe they just knew that it was their time to shine. Clinton digitized wiretapping you know. Just fricking automated the whole thing. Became super easy to get warrants, just tap fricking everyone, created a whole new generation of corporate espionage and blackmail.
Oh.yeah. wire tapping used to be a literal box someone had to install in the phone network. Most.of.the techs wouldn't do it either.
Also corporate espionage/ blackmail is clearly the reason for all the surveillance we got. It sure as hell isn't to prevent or solve crime. It is never used for that
anyone got a screencap of the previous thread? what lead OP to do this?