So why doesn't the Russian military just go to the warehouse where the equipment is located and say "Here's some money, now frick off. These are ours now." ?
Or assuming the actual production of the equipment is in Russia tell the factory owner that everything goes directly from the production lines to the frontlines and that they can seek potential payment from the Ministry of Defense at a later date?
Money is still being paid and it guarantees the men on the ground have at least something. Or has the Russian military run out of money too? Seems like paying for your own bodyarmor would be terrible for morale
How do you think this works in real life? >be russian procurement larceny&embezzlement major >kids pester you about new iphones and wife nags about european vacations, problem is, these cost more than what you make >get appointed 80 million billion roubles for body armor >purchase 40 million billion roubles worth of body armor, producer gets 10 million billion >your boss gets 10 million billion roubles >you and whoever is supposed to receive body armor agree to sell of 20 million billion roubles worth of body armor to split between yourselves >whatever gets filtered to the unit is gets sold off from there on
That's literally all they do anon, they're exclusively used as propaganda actors. They're used as evidence for the russian people that the average fighter is well-equipped and successful on the battlefield. They got ambushed/mauled exactly one time in Severodonetsk because they thought the area was cleared but Ukie SF were still lurking
and even if it weren't for bots (which welcome to modern day, anonymous posting stopped being representative of real people long ago) /misc/ is just a shock-bait trap that immediately repels the weak and attracts the edgy
This. It was possible to buy so much zenitco shit on eBay and it was all shipping from Russian side of Ukraine border November 2021 to January 2022. Prices tanked then cause the market was flooded.
>Steal vests >Resell them to conscripts at high price >Conscripts need to go to a Russian Mafia Loan shark that will go after their family in the near future >They arrive at the camp and vests are put in a storage room during meals and non-combat duty >Vests are stolen again >They are again on the internet for the next conscripts that will get the same loan from the same people
HOW THE FRICK THEY DON'T SET THE ENTIRE COUNTRY ON FIRE IS BEYOND ME. HOW CAN A FATHER LET HIS KID GO TO WAR LIKE THIS AND SAY 'it is what it is'. Fricking incredible. Their balls got cut 100 years ago.
>Lenin wasn't Russian
Yes he was baptised orthodox Russian in Russia at Ulyanovsk in Russia two two people born in Russia that spoke Russian...like his brother he went to a Russian school and spoke Russian and went to a Russian secondary school and spoke Russian and like his brother went to a Russian university. His Russian father worked in the Russian education system and his mother who was Russian was a monarchist.
Ah but you see, Russia is a country of temporarily embarrassed oligarchs where each sodomized conscript dreams of being the one stealing the vests in a couple of years time.
>soldiers having to buy their own equipment
Russia is simply bringing back the maniple system, a superior tactical approach. Inexperienced poors in front, some experienced who can afford a tampon in the middle, and the guys who are experienced at raping new recruits and stealing their equipment at the back.
Dude, stop talking shit. Roman tactics and organization were actually top-notch. You simply can't compare the clusterfrick that is current-day Russian organization with the Roman army. They are the proof that there is a LOT of intermediate steps betwen Roman army and flint spears; 2022 Rusian army being just one of those.
Woah! don't disrespect the Roman Republic like that, Even after the Marius reforms peasant legionaries were all kitted out with the standard uniform of a legionnaire.
>Mobilising Afghanska vets who've been dead 7 years
If Ghost Soldiers werent beyond American Puppets then why shouldnt it be a massive issue in the world's greatest Kleptocracy
>get conscripted >family spends it's last gemstones to buy you armour >get on bus for deployment >officer confiscates armour to sell on eBay
Jesus can you imagine being russian
>family gathers resources to buy you a vest in the hopes of saving your moronic ass >reach the front lines >pedor el pederasti corners you in a fox hole, disarms and cornholes you vigorously, swipes your vest
Plot-twist: The Ukrainians are selling the body armor BACK to the Russians, knowing they're going to die anyway, then picking the armor off the bodies and reselling again.
>"Dear diary, today I shot a Russian and took his armor." >"Dear diary, today I sold the armor to the Russians. They paid me enough money to arm my unit well." >"Dear diary, today I killed a Russian. I could swear it's the same damn set of armor I sold. Oh well, gonna sell it anyway....again."
can i sell my plate carrier from tarkov
Why hasn't russia seized the stocks of these companies? Looks like leadership in russia has totally destabilized
owner of the company is a friend of putin, or probably passes the profits onto putin himself
At this point it is straight up embarassing, in my time in the army we were always shown photos of russians with tactical vests, brand new gear etc.
What you saw were Potemkin troopers.
So why doesn't the Russian military just go to the warehouse where the equipment is located and say "Here's some money, now frick off. These are ours now." ?
Or assuming the actual production of the equipment is in Russia tell the factory owner that everything goes directly from the production lines to the frontlines and that they can seek potential payment from the Ministry of Defense at a later date?
Money is still being paid and it guarantees the men on the ground have at least something. Or has the Russian military run out of money too? Seems like paying for your own bodyarmor would be terrible for morale
How do you think this works in real life?
>be russian procurement larceny&embezzlement major
>kids pester you about new iphones and wife nags about european vacations, problem is, these cost more than what you make
>get appointed 80 million billion roubles for body armor
>purchase 40 million billion roubles worth of body armor, producer gets 10 million billion
>your boss gets 10 million billion roubles
>you and whoever is supposed to receive body armor agree to sell of 20 million billion roubles worth of body armor to split between yourselves
>whatever gets filtered to the unit is gets sold off from there on
Because leaving room for grift and corruption is the entire point.
it's the point of most wars, really.
You're thinking like a Westerner. "Soldiers are citizens and the duty of the state is to exercise utmost care for the lives of its citizens"
Russia simply doesn't give a frick. Citizens are slaves. Slaves get conscripted. Conscripts go into the blender. End of story.
they can only do that in times of war and there's no war
*blocks HATO's path*
>this is what chechens are doing while russian conscripts are getting shelled by M777s
as they should
Based. Chechens don't owe a sliver of loyalty to the rusBlack folk who raped their land.
Chechens are Muslims and therefore should be killed.
do they just shoot at random buildings and make tiktok vids? what's their jobs exactly?
That's literally all they do anon, they're exclusively used as propaganda actors. They're used as evidence for the russian people that the average fighter is well-equipped and successful on the battlefield. They got ambushed/mauled exactly one time in Severodonetsk because they thought the area was cleared but Ukie SF were still lurking
This is the side that /misc/ is backing?
Lol ok
Hope you like your virgins male, mudslime.
He’s got a k on his hat.
>muh /misc/
>/misc/ is one person
/misc/ is the most npc place on the internet it's overrun with bots and little tourists like yourself just spam the same posts ad nauseum.
and even if it weren't for bots (which welcome to modern day, anonymous posting stopped being representative of real people long ago) /misc/ is just a shock-bait trap that immediately repels the weak and attracts the edgy
I must say I really prefer the Chechen dab to the standard one, it's much classier.
Dis homie got moves doe
I say it's a governmental plot to bankrupt and kill their own citizenry
it's a seller's market
This. It was possible to buy so much zenitco shit on eBay and it was all shipping from Russian side of Ukraine border November 2021 to January 2022. Prices tanked then cause the market was flooded.
I FRICKING KNEEL
The moat /k/ shit since lady got raided
A Man among men, Godspeed anon
fair
The man who emptied the whole Russian military stock
The Ghost of /k/
>Steal vests
>Resell them to conscripts at high price
>Conscripts need to go to a Russian Mafia Loan shark that will go after their family in the near future
>They arrive at the camp and vests are put in a storage room during meals and non-combat duty
>Vests are stolen again
>They are again on the internet for the next conscripts that will get the same loan from the same people
HOW THE FRICK THEY DON'T SET THE ENTIRE COUNTRY ON FIRE IS BEYOND ME. HOW CAN A FATHER LET HIS KID GO TO WAR LIKE THIS AND SAY 'it is what it is'. Fricking incredible. Their balls got cut 100 years ago.
>Their balls got cut 100 years ago
Anon, they were castrated LONG before that, Lenin and the gang were the last Russians with any spine, and they all got cucked by Stalin.
Is that why Lenin went into exile?
Lenin wasn't Russian you ginormous communist Black person
>Lenin wasn't Russian
Yes he was baptised orthodox Russian in Russia at Ulyanovsk in Russia two two people born in Russia that spoke Russian...like his brother he went to a Russian school and spoke Russian and went to a Russian secondary school and spoke Russian and like his brother went to a Russian university. His Russian father worked in the Russian education system and his mother who was Russian was a monarchist.
Ah but you see, Russia is a country of temporarily embarrassed oligarchs where each sodomized conscript dreams of being the one stealing the vests in a couple of years time.
>soldiers having to buy their own equipment
Russia is simply bringing back the maniple system, a superior tactical approach. Inexperienced poors in front, some experienced who can afford a tampon in the middle, and the guys who are experienced at raping new recruits and stealing their equipment at the back.
Are we already regressing to fricking Roman Republic?
Are the Russians just gonna start using flint tipped spears next?
Dude, stop talking shit. Roman tactics and organization were actually top-notch. You simply can't compare the clusterfrick that is current-day Russian organization with the Roman army. They are the proof that there is a LOT of intermediate steps betwen Roman army and flint spears; 2022 Rusian army being just one of those.
To be fair, we also dont have hours of footage of Romans getting BTFO by Illyrians or Carthaginians
Woah! don't disrespect the Roman Republic like that, Even after the Marius reforms peasant legionaries were all kitted out with the standard uniform of a legionnaire.
> and the guys who are experienced at raping new recruits and stealing their equipment at the back.
These are truly the elite in current situation
>Mobilising Afghanska vets who've been dead 7 years
If Ghost Soldiers werent beyond American Puppets then why shouldnt it be a massive issue in the world's greatest Kleptocracy
>Russia at the point where the Marian reforms would be a new and revolutionary change in doctrine
That would require the oligarchs to actually fund the state and no way their are selling their 16th yacht and 8th dacha to equip his fellow soldiers.
What Russia really needs right now is a Sulla dictatorship with a little proscription lists brought back.
Such a lovely society. They are truely rotten to the core.
Are these vests any good?
I would guess they are most likely pretty shit.
>get conscripted
>family spends it's last gemstones to buy you armour
>get on bus for deployment
>officer confiscates armour to sell on eBay
Jesus can you imagine being russian
>the stupid liberal who gets upset the robber dies
Seems they exist even in South America
??? you talking blue shirt dude? pretty sure that's just an old dude who's confronting having to deal with tinnitus for the rest of his life
Go frick yourself. Classic combo of completely ignorant and insanely judgmental of other people.
>t. Deaf homosexual
Enjoy your eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>family gathers resources to buy you a vest in the hopes of saving your moronic ass
>reach the front lines
>pedor el pederasti corners you in a fox hole, disarms and cornholes you vigorously, swipes your vest
i'm so fricking tempted to make a scam website and sell softair body armor
>implying you weren't already beaten to the punch and any attempts to be competitive would be equalized by international shipping costs
Plot-twist: The Ukrainians are selling the body armor BACK to the Russians, knowing they're going to die anyway, then picking the armor off the bodies and reselling again.
Endless racket....for Ukraine.
>"Dear diary, today I shot a Russian and took his armor."
>"Dear diary, today I sold the armor to the Russians. They paid me enough money to arm my unit well."
>"Dear diary, today I killed a Russian. I could swear it's the same damn set of armor I sold. Oh well, gonna sell it anyway....again."