>Russian soldiers use alpha-pvp drug on the battlefield
Looks like CIA started to do their job, holy frick this shit is WORSE than krokodil, fatality rate is insane
>Russian soldiers use alpha-pvp drug on the battlefield
>Russian soldiers use alpha-pvp drug on the battlefield
Looks like CIA started to do their job, holy frick this shit is WORSE than krokodil, fatality rate is insane
>α-PVP, like other psychostimulants, can cause hyperstimulation, paranoia, and hallucinations.[6]α-PVP has been reported to be the cause, or a significant contributory cause of death in suicides and overdoses caused by combinations of drugs.[7][8][9][10]α-PVP has also been linked to at least one death with pulmonary edema and moderately advanced atherosclerotic coronary disease when it was combined withpentedrone.[11]
>According to Craig Crespi in the journalCase Reports in Psychiatry, 'symptoms are known to easily escalate into frightening delusions, paranoid psychosis, extreme agitation, and a multitude of other altered mental states.' Common adverse effects of α-PVP are in line with other psychostimulants, and include:
>Delusions
>Paranoidpsychosis
>Agitation
>Altered mental state
>In addition,agitated deliriummay occur as an adverse effect of α-PVP,[12]which carries its own set of symptoms, includinganxiety, agitation, violent outbursts,confusion,myoclonusandconvulsions, with clinical symptoms includingtachycardia,hypertension,diaphoresis,mydriasisandhyperthermia.[13]
to Craig Crespi in the journalCase Reports in Psychiatry, 'symptoms are known to easily escalate into frightening delusions, paranoid psychosis, extreme agitation, and a multitude of other altered mental states.'
literally CIA mind control drug
Sounds more like vatniks getting high on drugs that help them fit into vatnik society.
Also sounds like something their fifth column does as on the regular, especially the ones over 50.
>literally CIA mind control drug
That's alcohol, anon.
Isn't that true with all stimulants if you overdose on them? What makes PVP different from, say, combat meth? Easier to overdose or something?
There's no significant difference, as you've said all stimulants have those effects when you OD on them.
shit you might as well give them bath salt lel
>unironically believing the CIA
It's obviously made up by them.
>paranoia
>hallucinations
>frightening delusions
>paranoid psychosis
>extreme agitation
>delusions
Just what you need on the battlefield. Imagine fighting alongside sombody who's high on that. Chances are he'll kill own unit and then commit suicide.
mental state
But how would anyone even tell the difference?
appears to me to be the proper attitude if you're a vatnik
Are we sure they aren’t all on it?
>frightening delusions, paranoid psychosis, extreme agitation, and a multitude of other altered mental states.
but those are just default states of an average russian
t. russian
By those symptoms it sounds exactly like what they must be feeding their web brigades.
Bunch of junkie and looters.
Literally snowBlack folk.
>Bunch of junkie and looters.
>Literally snowBlack folk.
her forehead was used by Ukrainians as mobile aircraft carrier
Here's the real conundrum, would the Russian soldats perform better or worse sober?
Junk for scum.
Why not use regular amphetamines? They have been around forever and have predictible effects.
Amphetamines produce instant "good high" that considered bad as psychologically addictive. So Soviet search for the stimilants that doesn't have "good high"
Coming from someone who has used alpha-pvp
Its cheap and it works, feels like dirty shitty Amp but with the plus of being 3$ a dose seems like a good mix for giving to meat for the meat grinder
>alpha-pvp
Ordering illegal drugs from China is as easy as typing on a keyboard. On guidechem.com, more than 150 Chinese companies sell alpha-PVP, also known as flakka, a dangerous stimulant that is illegal in the United States but not in China, and was blamed for 18 recent deaths in one Florida county.21 Jun 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-Pyrrolidinopentiophenone
Checked and Holyfrickthatsadangeousdrugpilled
>and was blamed for 18 recent deaths in one Florida county
Well at least something good came of it
>Coming from someone who has used alpha-pvp
>Its cheap and it works, feels like dirty shitty Amp but with the plus of being 3$ a dose seems like a good mix for giving to meat for the meat grinder
Any noticable outcomes or side effects?
probably depends on dose
in UK we have it everywhere and our heroin junkies are afraid of it
they take it only as last resort
sometimes you can see them bouncing around like spastics after taking that shit
I can imagine in small doses for healthy people it will be more like regular stimulant
witness the pinnacle of British culture
>in UK we have it everywhere
Really? First I've heard of it. Is it one of those so called 'legal highs' or something?
I think he just means bath salts in general
Oh. I've heard of them from when those homeless people in America started eating each others faces. Crazy shit.
Spice is more of a problem round here. Absolutely rife in prisons, really difficult to stop as it can just be on a piece of soaked paper in a letter.
That shit turns people into zombies. Scary, scary stuff. Useless for war of course.
I think it's more likely the Russians just found a local dealer and thought PvP sounded like fun. I doubt the government is doing some sort of 'Jacobs ladder' operation.
clearly devastating ones, this anon now posts on /k/
real talk tho, like
said, it's everywhere in the UK, guy I vaguely know was found smacking his head off the pavement at his village gala day and when the rozzers pulled up to the crowd and asked if anyone had seen an agitated man overdosing he yelled 'ave taken loadsae coke', still banging his head
we got a lass that takes is every now and again, when she does she goes out and just wanders about twitching on stiff legs, like cerebral palsy on speed
on nearby council estate you can always see some ghoul just twitching with dead stare
why would anyone not in dire need take it is beyond me
I assume smaller dosage is OK
might be smaller window between high and OD
drugs with wider window allow you to be high without carefully measuring, narrow window and unknown concentration makes it hard to get high without getting fricked up
Can't wait until this becomes the zoomer drug epidemic
>3$ a dose
That’s more than regular amphetamin
What is it though? Is it just speed or more like MDMA
It's like meth and PCP and bath salts got into a threeway and had an abortion together that scares the frick out of krokodil users.
The amount of people ITT who have 0 knowledge on RCs is comedic
>img
I mean pussy, right?
>There's a combat drug called PVP
This is truly the greatest timeline
alpha-Pyrrolidinopentiophenone is its actual name but... yeah, nobody got time for that
So why is it called PVP instead of PLP? There's no V in that Ceaser salad of Latin.
Maybe the "pentio" in the middle means 5 aka V. I'm a moron so don't take that as truth
Caesar you dirty pleb.
>Discussion about shady drugs on the modern battlefield on a Peruvian Cuy Farm
>Two virtuous sons of Rome do not fail to prevent the name of the divine Caesar being sullied.
What is the motivation in creating great civilizations if people aren't gonna defend your honor 2000 years later on a vietnamese shrimp farming FORUM?
nos erat reges resque
> divine ceasar
> enslave free people living in harmony with nature after murdering part of them for no resson but to exploit them
> do a military coup d'etat and destroy democracy
Hero
>Roman Republic
>Democracy
He saved Rome from the Senate, and paved the way to make Rome the foundation of European society that every country wants to emulate.
Hmmm, and yet it collapsed?
Collapse of Rome was merely a feint.
Wrong, the collapse of rome was a sign of good will towards the barbarians
>Ceaser
>combat drug
It's bath salts. No wonder they're raping children and torturing civilians, on that shit all kinds of messed up horror is created.
it's eversor time bois
Lol, lmao even. VatBlack folk more savlar chem-dogs (cannon fodder of the Imperial guard)
>Savlar Chem-Dogs are recruited from the penal colonies on the planet Savlar, and come from among the worst murderers, thieves and miscellaneous scoundrels of that toxic Mining World. Conscripted into the Imperial Guard en masse, the Chem-Dogs were given two motivational imperatives: they could keep whatever they took from the enemy, and if they broke the law again they would be sent straight back to their toxic nightmare of a homeworld.
Summs Russian contract soldiers pretty good. Who are recruited mostly from depressive criminal heavy regions lured by good (for these regions) money.
>Savlar
>Slava-r
Surely these soldiers have access to reliable stimulants... Why would they be stuck with fricking bath salts?
At this point its just russians being russians, remember that they looked at heroin and said, "nah not good enough" and made their own version which makes the flesh rot because they cook it with fricking petrol
akschually, krokodil is a shitty substitute born out of desperation for a lack of heroin, that makes their flesh rot, etc. The poorer a place is, the more weird and synthesised their recreational drugs get.
isnt there a part of africa where they get high of shit/fart fumes?
yes and I thought it was a /misc/ meme until I actually saw a story on it pop up on aljazeera. Apparently the salts that suck up the fluids in the diapers and tampons can be leached out if you boil them and make you feel drunk or something when you drink it. So they collect used diapers and shit when they cant steal them and cook them up. Fricking disgusting as hell. Of course aljazzy was all "OMG HOW COULD THE DIAPER MANUFACTURES DO THIS TO THOSE POOR LADS".
Good old Jenkem!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem
There's a whole board on 420chan dedicated to it.
I assume most posts aren't sincere.
>isnt there a part of africa where they get high of shit/fart fumes?
still better than the ones snorting catalytic converters
>part of africa
Yes, its USA Black folk - Jenkem
Synthetic banannadine
Dirt cheap and probably a lot easier to get than actual amphetamine. Lots of "research chemicals"/designer drugs are popular in Russia for those reasons.
Vatniks ladder
that's the best drug for the
pvp combat
Carlos!
And this "people" blame AZOV of making drugs.
The only use in keeping track of Russia's claims is comedy, there's no consistent narrative
>we must liberate Ukraine from the Judeo-Nazi narcoterrorist Banderite Zelensky regime
>actually that was just a feint, we only want to liberate Donbas, Zelensky is still a Judeo-Narco-Nazi Banderite tho
Projecting hypocrites. There is no infamy Russians won't commit.
Apvp will make you hear voices that shit is evil as frick
That explains why they raped toddlers.
Ukrainian soldiers say that they don't have painkillers in case of injury because they use it casual.
thas wild
so where's the picture from?
User of drugs was captured by Free Russia legion operative
>Wood stock with Gucci trunnion and dust cover/heat shield
Very aesthetic
>that other Russian planted this on me, I have no idea what it is even, everyone's out to get me
>Free Russia Legion
wtf these guys are real? I thought it was just a meme. That flag is dope though
>Free Russia Legion
Absolutely real. they've been quietly racking up a lot of kills. They see this as training & recruiting to take an insurgency into Russia itself and liberate the country from Putin & his oligarchs. They have a pretty solid plan and are likely to get a lot of clandestine support.
Godspeed, you Mad Emperors.
>alpha-pvp
>also known as flakka
aww that shit turns people into crazed out zombies
It's probably used as an excuse to issue the more expendable troops (everyone) with the drug and melee weapons only in order to save on equipment costs.
Amphetamines are extremely common in Poland, Ukraine and Russia. I know a bunch of ex-FFL Polacks who regularly snort it when they don't have access to cocaine.
As well as the middle east and most of Asia.
BASED
Are there any other reports on stimulant-usage among the fighting units?
Previously Soviet military used
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesocarb
As amphetamine replacement. Pills were in the paltoon first aid kit (stored and issued by platoon lieutenant).
Does it make the pee pee hard? Can vatBlack folk rape three times as fast now?
A-pvp causes intense paranoia and localized schizophrenia, long term use can spark full on psychosis. Not really a drug you can fight on imo, but if they do they are likely committing warcrimes beyond human comprehension there
Think this guy took too much?
nah, he got lead poisoning
btw its not a government issued drugs to soldiers. Anyone who watching Donbass for some years know, that Donetsk city is literally a shitty quality drug hub of eastern europe. They don't use dead drops and sells drugs by dealers hand-to-hand.
So it looks like soldiers buying shitty drugs from Donetsk drug-dealers.
Also many wonders why the frick zip lock labeled with drug name, here is explanation
>Donetsk drug-dealers sells shitty quality drugs like apvp, mephedrone and other shit
>They all looks like same white powder (you can google how mephedrone and apvp looks like)
>They label ziplocks to not confuse themselves
All shitty war-torn countries turn to drugs. Syria, Afghanistan and now LDPR.
>Looks like CIA started to do their job
Looks like Russians being Russians to me
What is this drugs real pharmacological name?
apvp? It’s generally called an Alpha Pyro, which includes all the amph-like pyros like PVP, MDPHP, APIHP, MVPVP
webms of drugged up vatniks going on killing sprees when?
>drugged up vatniks going on killing sprees when?
They don't need drugs to massacre civilians, they already do it sober.
fair enough, I just want to see this go wrong so bad
The next best thing will be an orc having an overdose, going crazy, and shooting up the rest of his unit/a barracks in Donbabwe
Where does it fall on a scale of angel dust/acid/weed?
I'd rate weed at like 1, lsd a 3 or 4, Dimenhydrinate or pcp a 10.
Where does PVP fall on a 1-10 scale? of I'm being attacked by insects that don't exist and killed hundreds of them and saved one in a special place to prove I'm not crazy and just seeing this shit, to I seen the universe re-arrange the worlds pixels to manifest the metaphysical face of satan and I'm powerless to stop it
Going by habitual abuse potential, modified by violence and actual psychotic episode potential for strong/overdoses:
Weed is under 0.5. Mushrooms & peyote would be about a 2-3 depending on dose & individual, with LSD edging them out with a solid 3, same caveats. Real, original pure MDMA probably also ~2-ish, with later designer variants at 3+ but well under 4. DMT would be a 4 if it lasted longer, or was used approximately daily, otherwise under 4 or 3+. DMT is just really fricking intense, but then it's over and you're not in that space anymore until the next dose. Ketamine is about a solid 4, but not for the violence, just the abuse & overdose potential; this is the real self-harm line. PCP would be a solid 5, even pushing a 6. Regular crack use would be a 6, with crystal meth in 6+ territory. Then bath salts and krokodil at 7 to 8. aPVP is a step above bath salts, so put it at a solid 8 or 8+.
Not sure where to put sniffing glue & huffing solvents, gasoline, & spray paint, but I think it's reasonable to say "worse than crystal meth." Maybe. It's all permanent brain damage city at this point.
I'm leaving the top end of the scale open because I know there's worse shit out there not in the mainstream, and more yet to be invented. I always try to not use 10 because then next week will arrive and change the scale. Again. I'd place alcohol in ketamine territory for danger, violence, & abuse potential, but it's not really in this class of drugs.
Say something nice about the new Russia in 10-20 years
even I (polack) could get along with Russians if the few good ones won and carried out a brutal devatnikization
Not even meming, this is something that makes me feel better about humanity. People seem willing to put aside even the worst conflicts if they end up on the same side later on. 'Murica nuked Japan and now the two countries are thick as thieves. Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine, all of these central and Eastern european nations have horrible, bloody histories with all of each other, but faced with a bigger threat in the form of Russia, they're unironic "brother nations" in the sense Russia always claimed to be but never lived up to. Maybe in a few years after Putin is dead in a ditch with a stick up his ass, and the Russian nation has made reparations, we can all be friends too.
>us japan relations
lol.
The Japanese are friendly because we savagely and brutally crushed their old culture and built it back up carefully to conform to our needs and desires, anon.
We BUILT them into our friend.
Now that is not to say that the friendship between the people is not genuine, but the base upon which it was built was artificial and only possible BECAUSE of those nukes.
It wasn't crushed nearly as much as you think.
That would be Germany.
Japan still thinks they basically won World War 2.
Sure, but maybe the same can happen with Russia, the anon I was responding to mentioned brutal devatnikization after all. I'm under no illusions about how Russia will have to be rebuilt from the ground up, and a lot of corrupt, evil, and psychotic russians will have to die, for it to have even a chance of joining the civilized world.
>Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine
plus Belarus all used to be the same country. Until it was ripped apart by Russia, several times.
I actually meant to post this in this thread
LMAO my bad
>e n t e r i n g P v P m o d e . . .
I challenge you to a duel
I'm guessing this is probably just some soldier who bought it and it's not actually being issued. Very interesting reading in this thread that Donetsk is a drug dealing hub, didn't know that.
>Donetsk is a drug dealing hub
This. It's like New Rino from Fallout.