I'm looking forward to the humorous nickname these will get if this is real. Ruskie roasters? Borscht boilers?
It's a fricking concrete pillbox. It's a bunker. It was preformed and hardened somewhere else and is being transported to the front where it will probably be buried.
They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
Depends what kind of steel reinforcement it has which you can't see in this image. But this is Russian engineering so there's a good chance this is precast just concrete with zero steel incorporated.
homie look at the suspension on that truck. Do you see it sag? No. That means that thing is concrete only. Anything heavier and you'd notice it on the truck carrying it.
It's 100mm thick 2.5 meter precast. If you dropped one 30 cm onto its side it would fold flat. The top is even thinner. These are absolutely deathtraps and nothing more. I've made better bunkers for paintball fields.
Its pretty shitty as a bunker then. Does it even have steel rebar in it? Solid concrete doesn't really stop bullets. I guess if it's half buried and used as like part of a trench system it would be ok.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
They're gonna do this now and then you'll claim there was never any shit in the wagon to begin with
Are we talking small arms here or heavier weapons? Shrapnel from exploding shells might slide off the side since it's round. Also we do not know to what extend it's steel reinforced.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
I invoke Vatnik Law of Stupidity and declare that you've just predicted the future.
They probably cover from small arms fire, frags, sun and rain pretty well, and if it was some competent army manufacturing those i would probably say it's for establishing places where a soldier can sit for a while, eat, drink some tea or chill while nothing happens, being protected from sudden shelling or enviroment. It's russia tho, so they'll probably drop it with vdv
I mean they aren't completely useless. Will probably stop 5.45 with ease and keep you safe from a dji with a mortar round being dropped from it. But no, against a Javelin, HIMARS, Grad, BTR, T-80, etc.
It has been done and it was a really shit idea, done of course the connoisseurs of bonkers shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bison_concrete_armoured_lorry
Think the bong-tank museum might have a vid on them as well
>Honestly I think zee germans if they ever landed would have found themselves attacked with vats of boiling oil, weaponised car tyres and a brick on a stick
Difference is the Bison wasn't meant to protect against heavy weapons, but against paratroopers who were lightly armed (for obvious reasons). They were meant to be moved to cover landing areas where they'd expect German paratroopers and in general to prevent static defences being destroyed (again, the assumption was the Germans would be uncontested in the skies).
In WW2, it is 100% a good idea, because the paratroopers weren't going to be rocking many heavy weapons and any heavy weapons they did have lacked the range to be of much use. In the modern era where any bumfrick with a RPG or whatever you can get through the concrete.
The funny thing is, in half a dozen wargames since the end of WW2, every time they have done an invasion of UK by German forces, the Germans lose 90% of their troops in two weeks. Even with British handicaps (total German air superiority). Simply because the Germans weren't equipped to do amphibious invasions on the tier needed (D-Day) to attack a nation that had shit loads of defensive lines and was willing to stretch the Geneva Convention to its limits (for example they planned to drop banned gas on German landing beaches... before they got there, meaning the Germans would land on gas and die, which is not against the convention as it was not used 'directly')
Finally, that was a nation trying to find ways to defend itself, not a nation on t he offensive having to resort to shit in an era which makes it pretty shitty.
Definitely an upgrade this tells me the Russians are willing to dig in for the long haul. They are going to start building a trench system probably 20-25 miles back from their current front lines. Defense in depth and just wait the world out. They're hoping we get tired along with the Ukrainians and just say frick it you get what you are currently occupying and no more.
with the amount of artillery and small ordinance dropped by drones I can actually see these things being relatively useful more so if they reinforce them with sandbags and shit
also I imagine it makes whatever line they're making relatively flexible for now while the ukrainians are dug in with more defensive but also static trenches
I agree place one of these every 25 or so yards away try and maintain over lapping fields of fire. Plus these things are dirt cheap and miles better than anything made from sandbags and wood.
>better than anything made from sandbags and wood
Are they?
Maybe they don't have the manpower to create conventional entrenchments, or it's unfeasible under current/modern bombardment, so that's why they're trying with pre-fab stuff.
Considering their track record I would wager that they're brittle, ineffective pieces of shit like everything else.
>Plus these things are dirt cheap and miles better than anything made from sandbags and wood.
No, absolutely not. I could use an excavator and 10 meters of 25cm thick logs to make a better, larger bunker in about the time it would take me to dig the hole this goes in, lift it off the truck, and then rebury this (for the sake of the poor dumb bastards that are going in these, they better rebury these with thick packed earth in front of them, but I know they won't because tamping earth in close proximity to unsupported precast like this will break it every time.
look at the openings - that cement is 3 inches thick. there is nothing on the battlefield that can be stopped by that thing. it's literally a cope bunker.
Yeah, the idea is sound and the French pioneered it during WW1, but this looks like relatively thin precast pipe/culvert.
This thing is going to be shredded by 12.7mm, anything with explosive filler is guaranteed death. Hell, it might not even stop 5.45.
I would much rather be in a concealed trench.
The 1850s called, they said "holding land" by means of static defenses was obsolete.
The 1700s mentioned something about "already having suspected that".
Not in Russia, speaking from experience.
They will have managed to scrounge up something civilian though, there ought to be enough in the occupied territories.
Prefab bunkers are fine, however: >microscopically thin, separately cast, flat roof >walls so thin the thin you can punch through them with a pickaxe >that fricking texture
These are absolute shit and will be the death of anyone dumb enough to hide inside.
They've actually been holding remarkably well given the sheer volume of fricking artillery. Getting pushed back in the north east after forcing russia to turn it's gains into rubble isn't the L you think it is. Defense in depth wins campaigns dingus.
Ah yes, the ever so successful defense in depth strategies of, C.S.A, France in the Franco Prussian war, Poland in WW2, Germany in WW2, Japan in WW2, Kuomintang in the Civil War, South Vietnam, and Armenia.. so glad those guys won with such an OP strategy
Poland didn't use defense in depth in ww2, what the frick are you, moronic? Literally the biggest critique of ww2 poland right after that they didn't mobilize, is that they fought over every piece of land on their border.
Sit in defense, let Ukes bash themselves to death trying to break through, Ukes retre-er I mean "fighting withdraw" another 25km, pick up mobile bunkers and plant on the new front.
Rinse and Repeat
Ez clap
No rematch
I'm sure you'll get a way better deal with buying some banderite prostitute after we're done with her, we'lll even throw in some oil for the deal. Since you need it more than us 😉
ukraine has been steadily losing territory and cities for the past two months and are about to lose siverk and bakhmut. meanwhile all /k/ope can do is impotently seethe about every single thing the russians do. good luck with that whole cherson meme offensive weve been hearing about for the past month.
>steadily losing territory and cities for the past two months
Anon there are actual, literal glaciers in Europe moving faster than the russian army has over the past two months
That's not a joke and it's not hyperbole, faster glaciers can reach nearly 30m a day under the right conditions which puts them noticeably ahead of the russian advance
Transporting pre-formed concrete structures seems like a logistical nightmare and would tie up a lot of trucks. One trick carrying hesco wire and one truck carrying an excavator would make more sense
It really doesn't make sense, so giving their usual incompetence the benefit of doubt there might be something preventing them from digging the real deal, or enough of it.
this feels like someone sold the army on a new easy way to make fortifications that just coincidentally happens to come from their uncle who owns a septic tank company
Why?
They have an overabundance of raw materials now and plenty of demand with the supposed rebuilding of "liberated territories" coming any day now.
Are they unable to service their industrial machinery, or were they affected by the inexplicable "cannot pay factory workers" epidemic?
those are actually better, because the top lid is not some thin concrete as the russian "bunkers" that will buckle from one scoop of dirt on it
i don't want to be the vatnik inside when a 500€ drone drops a mortar on that, and concrete fragments from the thin lid shred me into pieces
>I pay to enter your concrete bunker for an hour at a time - 150RUB (Kherson Oblast)
>Some might judge me for this but it's what I enjoy. I pay you 150RUB an hour to bring my kit in and gain access to your bunker. I then have my associate close the bunker after I have set my Nagant and Orlan 10 up. Believe it or not, it's a great place to reflect.
>Thank you for your time and please don't contact me with judgemental assumptions
Frick, I could watch Russians die all day, I don't give a shit about you half monkey Black folk of Europe. Yeah yeah Ukraine can't hold out forever blah blah blah, I'm just enjoying watching you subhuman trash eat dirt.
So they’ve decided to harden their southern holdings? Looks like they’re going to move onto the next operation in the east and finish taking the major gas deposits.
What are you… talking about? Lost what? Not baiting you. What did Russia lose, exactly? And how is that "loss" relevant to trench fortifications in the south?
doesn't this just prove that they aren't going to try to take Odessa and that they are digging in for the long run with the territory they already control?
How are Chugsters coping with this?
How sturdy can it really be if a (very shitty vatnik-tier) fricking pickup truck can transport it around?
It looks like it would stop intermediate rounds, but repeated rifle rounds would penetrate after a few in the same couple inches diameter. Basically, they're vulnerable to a machine gun.
these look nothing like the ones the allies faced on the beaches of normandy in 1944, those took a BEATING
>concrete septic tanks
i am still trying to figure out the basic function of these, and how it's even remotely useful in 2022 warfare.
It looks like it's meant for one person, and has a bunch of slits at roughly eye level for firing out of with a rifle. It has no room for heavier weapons. What good is that? Having a guy plink a few shots at someone if they're unlucky enough to even come into view of those slits?
Just "armored" observation posts? a dude in camo laying in the shrubs would be harder to notice. someone please fill me in. Could they possible be... armored outhouses? especially after the one video of the homemade drone dropping a bomb on someone taking a shit
I assume it's shit they're giving you Donbabweans and Lulgandans to use and is probably intended to like go in the corner of a trench chamber or something, buried on the outside at least up to that window. It's better than nothing I suppose.
They’re going to plug them into trenches. The purpose is to improve survivability from shell splinters and HE. Ukrainians suffered greatly in their shallow trench dugouts.
Probably some construction oligarch’s storage of septic tanks he decided to convert to trench bunkers to sell (or give away for rep points with Putin).
They’ll be partially buried. Beats the shallow dugouts used by ukorps. This is a modest but still meaningful upgrade to the trench line. I bet they’ll cover the top part with dirt and foliage, maybe camo netting. Giving a machine gunner better cover.
Definitely an upgrade this tells me the Russians are willing to dig in for the long haul. They are going to start building a trench system probably 20-25 miles back from their current front lines. Defense in depth and just wait the world out. They're hoping we get tired along with the Ukrainians and just say frick it you get what you are currently occupying and no more.
Well they can't leave. They have to at least "liberate" Donbabwe and Luganda and ideally I believe they want a land bridge to Crimea as well, so they have to at least get that far. And Zelensky can't just capitulate either. There are far too many Western interests there now in aiding Ukraine to allow that. They're both in for the long haul. Russians can continue to whittle away at them I suppose but they'll grow tired of it eventually. But they aren't leaving with nothing and the Ukrainians for sure as frick aren't retaking Crimea. It's just a question of how long it takes them to consolidate control in the east and south and establish a hard front that they continue to push farther.
They all use about the same depth of trenches from the footage I've seen.
Anyway, this isn't a serious fortification and won't be more than a speed bump in a proper offensive. No one is crossing fields with unsupported light infantry.
I think the idea is kind of ok, but only if they are going to bury them like 10 feet underground.
A nice cozy shelter to rest and sleep.
But judging by the windows, probaly they are going to use it as a bunker and die inside it.
Not all Russian areas use outhouses. They have a little of every type of sewage disposal throughout the Federation, including just holes in the ground like this.
There's another negative you pleb Ukie shills didn't notice so I'm going to let you in. The trucks are not particularly loaded down yet carry 2 each. This implies a low rebar content. Ideally there could be up to 80% steel composition and they might be pretty good then - but its a lot less obviously.
A little thin? The roof on particular appears really fragile. I suppose it will be more or less immune to 5.56 M855 or 7N6/7N10, and small fragments. Anything else will penetrate at combat distance.
I sincerely doubt those are supposed to be pillboxes or bunkers. They're way too small to do anything practical and if a trucks hauling them there's no way they were meant to be used for fortification. They're probably for some infrastructure project or some shit.
In English it is called a "septic tank"
A cesspool is a related thing that performs a similar function for treating sewage but is just an open topped pool rather than a tank.
>similar function for treating sewage
Nah mate a cesspool is not for any sort of treatment. Shit is piped in and drained by trucks once it's full, off to be treated elsewhere. Just a shit container.
No it totally does perform a function, and a vital one at that
A cesspool (or septic tank) is where the sewage undergoes separation, the first stage of treatment. Inside the pool, desner fluids and particulates sink to the bottom, while "clean" water floats to the top. This phenomenon enables you to siphon of the clear water for further treatment/recyling and is the first step in the overall sewage treatment process
Cesspools in particular have additional advantage of exposing the water to UV light, which kills off some bacteria at the cost of evaporation
>A cesspool (or septic tank)
You're mixing up two separate concepts. A septic tank is what provides such basic treatment. A cesspool is literally a big container for feces, it doesn't treat waste.
I finished a uni course on this not too long ago, the process occurs in both and both are used for it. The confusion may stem from another term used for them which is "settling pool"
Hell, this entire argument might be why people started calling them that in the first place
>similar function for treating sewage
Nah mate a cesspool is not for any sort of treatment. Shit is piped in and drained by trucks once it's full, off to be treated elsewhere. Just a shit container.
No it totally does perform a function, and a vital one at that
A cesspool (or septic tank) is where the sewage undergoes separation, the first stage of treatment. Inside the pool, desner fluids and particulates sink to the bottom, while "clean" water floats to the top. This phenomenon enables you to siphon of the clear water for further treatment/recyling and is the first step in the overall sewage treatment process
Cesspools in particular have additional advantage of exposing the water to UV light, which kills off some bacteria at the cost of evaporation
>A cesspool (or septic tank)
You're mixing up two separate concepts. A septic tank is what provides such basic treatment. A cesspool is literally a big container for feces, it doesn't treat waste.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesspit
vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septic_tank
I finished a uni course on this not too long ago, the process occurs in both and both are used for it. The confusion may stem from another term used for them which is "settling pool"
Hell, this entire argument might be why people started calling them that in the first place
>similar function for treating sewage
Nah mate a cesspool is not for any sort of treatment. Shit is piped in and drained by trucks once it's full, off to be treated elsewhere. Just a shit container.
No it totally does perform a function, and a vital one at that
A cesspool (or septic tank) is where the sewage undergoes separation, the first stage of treatment. Inside the pool, desner fluids and particulates sink to the bottom, while "clean" water floats to the top. This phenomenon enables you to siphon of the clear water for further treatment/recyling and is the first step in the overall sewage treatment process
Cesspools in particular have additional advantage of exposing the water to UV light, which kills off some bacteria at the cost of evaporation
>A cesspool (or septic tank)
You're mixing up two separate concepts. A septic tank is what provides such basic treatment. A cesspool is literally a big container for feces, it doesn't treat waste.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesspit
vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septic_tank
I finished a uni course on this not too long ago, the process occurs in both and both are used for it. The confusion may stem from another term used for them which is "settling pool"
Hell, this entire argument might be why people started calling them that in the first place
to further add to the confusion those sewage boxes can somehow function as an anaerobic digester tank if they are closed (and aerobic if open). regardless it's much more efficient to just transport the sewage to a treatment plant.
No it totally does perform a function, and a vital one at that
A cesspool (or septic tank) is where the sewage undergoes separation, the first stage of treatment. Inside the pool, desner fluids and particulates sink to the bottom, while "clean" water floats to the top. This phenomenon enables you to siphon of the clear water for further treatment/recyling and is the first step in the overall sewage treatment process
Cesspools in particular have additional advantage of exposing the water to UV light, which kills off some bacteria at the cost of evaporation
UV light? that kind of process usually happens in tertiary treatment iirc. primary treatment is physico-chemical (filters, coagulation, settling, pH adjustment n shit) then next is secondary treatment which is mostly biological (where you use microbes to treat your waste). after that is tertiary treatment which really depends in each facility - UV sterilization, ozone/chlorine sterilization, decolorization n shit happens in this step.
and i am still wondering how a sewage plant can be weaponized. maybe the sewage treatment microbes could be weaponized?
The saddest part? This thing was showcased on multiple expo's in the '90s, supposedly.
Essentially, in is an ancient CROWS-like remote weapon turret, that can drop down and button up. Has a crew of like 1 person.
Weapons: >30 GMG >7.62 MG >gayot ATGM
When closed, resistant against 155mm HE impacts. When open, small arms fire.
>do it for 10 years
They've been doing it over 100 years and they won't do anything about it, that's why Russians are so pathetic. They know they government is lying but they are so assbroken that they don't do anything about it.
You guys laugh, but we literally have these all over the northern coast of Taiwan. If you use Google Maps to look around the beach at Shimen (the rock arch on the coast) you'll find one.
I'd think what you have is more like what the UK had during WW2.
Proper fortifications, not just thin concrete pipes you can load multiple of into a truck
It looks like a water pipe someone cut some holes into
Oh dear
It's a fricking concrete pillbox. It's a bunker. It was preformed and hardened somewhere else and is being transported to the front where it will probably be buried.
They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
precast garbage like that doesn't resist .308. It's drainage pipe with some slots in it.
Depends what kind of steel reinforcement it has which you can't see in this image. But this is Russian engineering so there's a good chance this is precast just concrete with zero steel incorporated.
homie look at the suspension on that truck. Do you see it sag? No. That means that thing is concrete only. Anything heavier and you'd notice it on the truck carrying it.
you know that is not true
It's 100mm thick 2.5 meter precast. If you dropped one 30 cm onto its side it would fold flat. The top is even thinner. These are absolutely deathtraps and nothing more. I've made better bunkers for paintball fields.
Good thing basically nothing fires 308
Its pretty shitty as a bunker then. Does it even have steel rebar in it? Solid concrete doesn't really stop bullets. I guess if it's half buried and used as like part of a trench system it would be ok.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
We'll see about that. I give it month at best.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
You say this now.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
They're gonna do this now and then you'll claim there was never any shit in the wagon to begin with
>its a bunker
With a 4 inch wall.
Yeah, those things are not going to stop anything. And judging for the windows, they are not going to bury them deep enough
Are we talking small arms here or heavier weapons? Shrapnel from exploding shells might slide off the side since it's round. Also we do not know to what extend it's steel reinforced.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
T-they're gonna do it aren't they?
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
You sure about that?
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
I invoke Vatnik Law of Stupidity and declare that you've just predicted the future.
looks about 200mm thick concrete. so no more than a fricking house. useless for modern warefare.
OK. I just checked and Siegfried line bunkers had wall thickness of 1.5 meter. And that was 75 years ago.
They probably cover from small arms fire, frags, sun and rain pretty well, and if it was some competent army manufacturing those i would probably say it's for establishing places where a soldier can sit for a while, eat, drink some tea or chill while nothing happens, being protected from sudden shelling or enviroment. It's russia tho, so they'll probably drop it with vdv
>They aren't planning on drive around that shit on trucks fighting from them.
Coming soon to a T-62 near you...
I mean they aren't completely useless. Will probably stop 5.45 with ease and keep you safe from a dji with a mortar round being dropped from it. But no, against a Javelin, HIMARS, Grad, BTR, T-80, etc.
A mortar round will cave that thin roof with no fail.
And the roof is flat instead of domed, which is terrible against that sort of attack
> They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
Don’t ruin my hopes of technicals with pillboxes equipped
It has been done and it was a really shit idea, done of course the connoisseurs of bonkers shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bison_concrete_armoured_lorry
Think the bong-tank museum might have a vid on them as well
>Honestly I think zee germans if they ever landed would have found themselves attacked with vats of boiling oil, weaponised car tyres and a brick on a stick
Difference is the Bison wasn't meant to protect against heavy weapons, but against paratroopers who were lightly armed (for obvious reasons). They were meant to be moved to cover landing areas where they'd expect German paratroopers and in general to prevent static defences being destroyed (again, the assumption was the Germans would be uncontested in the skies).
In WW2, it is 100% a good idea, because the paratroopers weren't going to be rocking many heavy weapons and any heavy weapons they did have lacked the range to be of much use. In the modern era where any bumfrick with a RPG or whatever you can get through the concrete.
The funny thing is, in half a dozen wargames since the end of WW2, every time they have done an invasion of UK by German forces, the Germans lose 90% of their troops in two weeks. Even with British handicaps (total German air superiority). Simply because the Germans weren't equipped to do amphibious invasions on the tier needed (D-Day) to attack a nation that had shit loads of defensive lines and was willing to stretch the Geneva Convention to its limits (for example they planned to drop banned gas on German landing beaches... before they got there, meaning the Germans would land on gas and die, which is not against the convention as it was not used 'directly')
Finally, that was a nation trying to find ways to defend itself, not a nation on t he offensive having to resort to shit in an era which makes it pretty shitty.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
This frickin guy
Yeah I worked in precast concrete, it’s dogshit. Poured walls are used for foundations for a reason, while precast are used for external walls.
>They aren't planning on driving around that shit on trucks fighting from it.
I'm guessing that the Russian weren't planning on sending T-62s to the front either, but here we are.
I'm looking forward to the humorous nickname these will get if this is real. Ruskie roasters? Borscht boilers?
Cauldrons
>Mfw the Russians are in the cauldron now
>Mfw the cauldron collapses to well aimed MG sprays and a frag
Concrete coffin
cement cemetary
This. Its just a cement graveyard.
>could have gone with cement cemetary
>fricking didn't
cope crib
Vatnik Vat
Bunker troony
Putin Palaces
>cue Barry Manilow
Cope Cabanas
Winrar
They're literally already called pillboxes
The point is, a box with a doorway in it and a window, that you can shit in, or not, or take pills in, or not, is not a strategic asset, unless it is.
which is why we are wondering, what is it?
with the amount of artillery and small ordinance dropped by drones I can actually see these things being relatively useful more so if they reinforce them with sandbags and shit
also I imagine it makes whatever line they're making relatively flexible for now while the ukrainians are dug in with more defensive but also static trenches
Chapkrete, a chapka made of concrete.
Cossack Cave
Gopnik Gopher Hole
Slave Snail Shell
commie cauldron
bolshevik boiler
pol pot
Krusty Komsomol
Banaan Boiler
Ho Hole
kopek kan
Banan kotel
Bunker traktor
>portable pillbox
Not a bad idea for reinforcing trenches.
I agree place one of these every 25 or so yards away try and maintain over lapping fields of fire. Plus these things are dirt cheap and miles better than anything made from sandbags and wood.
>better than anything made from sandbags and wood
Are they?
Maybe they don't have the manpower to create conventional entrenchments, or it's unfeasible under current/modern bombardment, so that's why they're trying with pre-fab stuff.
Considering their track record I would wager that they're brittle, ineffective pieces of shit like everything else.
>Plus these things are dirt cheap and miles better than anything made from sandbags and wood.
No, absolutely not. I could use an excavator and 10 meters of 25cm thick logs to make a better, larger bunker in about the time it would take me to dig the hole this goes in, lift it off the truck, and then rebury this (for the sake of the poor dumb bastards that are going in these, they better rebury these with thick packed earth in front of them, but I know they won't because tamping earth in close proximity to unsupported precast like this will break it every time.
look at the openings - that cement is 3 inches thick. there is nothing on the battlefield that can be stopped by that thing. it's literally a cope bunker.
Especially with Ukraine fielding man-portable DShKs now kek
It'll be hilarious when the winning side doesn't both to dig them up afterwards and makes Albania v2
imagine being so technologically shite that your invasion resorts to trench warfare in 2022
Yeah, the idea is sound and the French pioneered it during WW1, but this looks like relatively thin precast pipe/culvert.
This thing is going to be shredded by 12.7mm, anything with explosive filler is guaranteed death. Hell, it might not even stop 5.45.
I would much rather be in a concealed trench.
>4 inches of chinese concrete and skimped on the chinese rebar
it isn't stopping anything bigger than shrapnel.
I'm no expert but I feel like a perimeter of concertainers would be better than a little concrete cuck shed.
great
we've reached Makeshift Maginot
>Makeshift Maginot
The Aliexpress Siegfried Line
Second-rate Siegfried Line
Silly Siegfried
>The Goodwill Gustav Line
SOMEone MAKE AN EDIT NOW
Oh for fricks sake "COPECRETE"? YOI FRICKING c**tS WOULDNT KNOW GOOD MILITARY ATRATEGY IF IT BIT YOU IN THE ASS
HOW THE FRICK DO YOU EXPECT TO HOLDAND WITHOUT DEFENSES YOU FRICKING TRANNJES A MOBILE DEFENSE IS IMPERIATIVE TO KEEPING THE LAND YOU HOHOLS
FUXK YOU
Hah
No, they're for rolling down hills at the holohols like in donkey kong
oh hi mars
he is mad
The 1850s called, they said "holding land" by means of static defenses was obsolete.
The 1700s mentioned something about "already having suspected that".
wonder what it's like to get beaten to death by non hardened concrete fragments as you get shot at with hmg's and 30mm shells
Everyday these guys just sink lower and lower
Looks like HIMARS is getting thermobaric warheads soon.
Yes, that's typically how you move prefab concrete objects.
make sure you dont use colors that contrast well against the background for your text.
Russia can't into forklifts, but they'll magically scrounge up enough cranes to build the Leaning Tower of Luhansk?
cranes are everywhere in militaries
Not in Russia, speaking from experience.
They will have managed to scrounge up something civilian though, there ought to be enough in the occupied territories.
Prefab bunkers are fine, however:
>microscopically thin, separately cast, flat roof
>walls so thin the thin you can punch through them with a pickaxe
>that fricking texture
These are absolute shit and will be the death of anyone dumb enough to hide inside.
how else do you maintain heavy vehicles? the russian army is heavily motorized
>Russia
>mantain vehicles
I think its easier to abandon them and get another one from storage.
So uhh.. if russia is doing so badly, why can't ukes actually hold the line?
How's that Kyiv front going?
Russia is occupying less land than they did last month
April was 2 months ago anon, russnogs have been pushing forward ever since
>russnogs have been pushing forward ever since
You like to make shit up?
They have increased over last month but a percentage point or two
They've actually been holding remarkably well given the sheer volume of fricking artillery. Getting pushed back in the north east after forcing russia to turn it's gains into rubble isn't the L you think it is. Defense in depth wins campaigns dingus.
Ah yes, the ever so successful defense in depth strategies of, C.S.A, France in the Franco Prussian war, Poland in WW2, Germany in WW2, Japan in WW2, Kuomintang in the Civil War, South Vietnam, and Armenia.. so glad those guys won with such an OP strategy
>what about...
good one man
>defense in depth always wins!!
>shows it always fails
>"that's a fallacy"
This is an +18 board, xir.
Most of those countries never used defense in depth
>if I plug my eyes and ears and go LALALALALALALAL that means it didn't happen
Meds.
Most of those countries just fricking lost, they didn't use defense in depth. Losing ground by fricking up royally isn't defense in depth
>what is the Russian campaign
It beat fricking napoleon
The successful defense in depth at Kursk?
Poland didn't use defense in depth in ww2, what the frick are you, moronic? Literally the biggest critique of ww2 poland right after that they didn't mobilize, is that they fought over every piece of land on their border.
you've watched defense in depth work this war under kyiv moron, russians pushed almost to the city borders and still got rekt in the end
So Russia's going to stop taking land any day now, right?
Imagine wasting a javelin on this
It works
Even a LAW would be overkill
They are finally back...
At least those could stop most of the weapons of the day.
These were actually well thought out and manned by skilled and dedicated troops. Pussians can only dream about getting on the level of Hussites.
Look at that dude down the bottom dabbing on the enemy with his two-handed flail
whats the tactic here?
are they running out of men?
Sit in defense, let Ukes bash themselves to death trying to break through, Ukes retre-er I mean "fighting withdraw" another 25km, pick up mobile bunkers and plant on the new front.
Rinse and Repeat
Ez clap
No rematch
I look forward to buying your sister for a days wages while you die of AIDS/liver failure russkie boy
I'm sure you'll get a way better deal with buying some banderite prostitute after we're done with her, we'lll even throw in some oil for the deal. Since you need it more than us 😉
They are already all here lmao. You ain't getting shit.
its unlikely youll meet his sister but yours is already giving out blowjobs for 5$s a nut out in germany
>copecrete bunkers
from a third world country
that shit looks like a septic tank
ukraine has been steadily losing territory and cities for the past two months and are about to lose siverk and bakhmut. meanwhile all /k/ope can do is impotently seethe about every single thing the russians do. good luck with that whole cherson meme offensive weve been hearing about for the past month.
>steadily losing territory and cities for the past two months
Anon there are actual, literal glaciers in Europe moving faster than the russian army has over the past two months
That's not a joke and it's not hyperbole, faster glaciers can reach nearly 30m a day under the right conditions which puts them noticeably ahead of the russian advance
Don't you know that Russia is running out of ammunition by next Sunday?
Transporting pre-formed concrete structures seems like a logistical nightmare and would tie up a lot of trucks. One trick carrying hesco wire and one truck carrying an excavator would make more sense
It really doesn't make sense, so giving their usual incompetence the benefit of doubt there might be something preventing them from digging the real deal, or enough of it.
this feels like someone sold the army on a new easy way to make fortifications that just coincidentally happens to come from their uncle who owns a septic tank company
This is your bunker after 80% goes to kickbacks and someone stole 90% of the concrete
Ironic considering russian cement manufacturers are shutting their plants due to sanctions.
Why?
They have an overabundance of raw materials now and plenty of demand with the supposed rebuilding of "liberated territories" coming any day now.
Are they unable to service their industrial machinery, or were they affected by the inexplicable "cannot pay factory workers" epidemic?
>Are they unable to service their industrial machinery
Correct, as a member of the Duma recently mentioned Russia doesn't even make nails any more.
Oh no no no
Nyet nyet nyet
Do not reverse search pic
And do not Google "concrete septic tank"!!
those are actually better, because the top lid is not some thin concrete as the russian "bunkers" that will buckle from one scoop of dirt on it
i don't want to be the vatnik inside when a 500€ drone drops a mortar on that, and concrete fragments from the thin lid shred me into pieces
oh my fricking god...this war is not fricking real!
> COX
> out
What is this, some kind of deception? We all know the cox will be coming in.
>Russians are human shit
>Get killed in literal septic tanks
Sometimes the world is too good
It's like how they were using that dumpster truck as a troop transport. It's like pottery
It's a literal fricking septic tank with a window cut and door cut in it bros... They used the same mold and everything
Best place for Russian feces
Ach, meine sides
>I pay to enter your concrete bunker for an hour at a time - 150RUB (Kherson Oblast)
>Some might judge me for this but it's what I enjoy. I pay you 150RUB an hour to bring my kit in and gain access to your bunker. I then have my associate close the bunker after I have set my Nagant and Orlan 10 up. Believe it or not, it's a great place to reflect.
>Thank you for your time and please don't contact me with judgemental assumptions
>SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY PLEASE
lol. lmao.
Frick, I could watch Russians die all day, I don't give a shit about you half monkey Black folk of Europe. Yeah yeah Ukraine can't hold out forever blah blah blah, I'm just enjoying watching you subhuman trash eat dirt.
So they’ve decided to harden their southern holdings? Looks like they’re going to move onto the next operation in the east and finish taking the major gas deposits.
>noooooooo it didn't count because they lost!!!!!!!
Not sure if b8, or just underage. You'll get no more (you)s from me, regardless
What are you… talking about? Lost what? Not baiting you. What did Russia lose, exactly? And how is that "loss" relevant to trench fortifications in the south?
>What did Russia lose, exactly?
economy, progress and prosperity for the next 50 years
30k men. Most of "non-cold war era" weapon systems. Economy. Credibility. Neutral border country in the north.
doesn't this just prove that they aren't going to try to take Odessa and that they are digging in for the long run with the territory they already control?
How are Chugsters coping with this?
How sturdy can it really be if a (very shitty vatnik-tier) fricking pickup truck can transport it around?
It looks like it would stop intermediate rounds, but repeated rifle rounds would penetrate after a few in the same couple inches diameter. Basically, they're vulnerable to a machine gun.
these look nothing like the ones the allies faced on the beaches of normandy in 1944, those took a BEATING
Those were real bunkers, thick as frick and heavily entrenched into the coast. These are fricking concrete septic tanks.
>concrete septic tanks
i am still trying to figure out the basic function of these, and how it's even remotely useful in 2022 warfare.
It looks like it's meant for one person, and has a bunch of slits at roughly eye level for firing out of with a rifle. It has no room for heavier weapons. What good is that? Having a guy plink a few shots at someone if they're unlucky enough to even come into view of those slits?
Just "armored" observation posts? a dude in camo laying in the shrubs would be harder to notice. someone please fill me in. Could they possible be... armored outhouses? especially after the one video of the homemade drone dropping a bomb on someone taking a shit
I think you are on the right track with the outhouse idea
I assume it's shit they're giving you Donbabweans and Lulgandans to use and is probably intended to like go in the corner of a trench chamber or something, buried on the outside at least up to that window. It's better than nothing I suppose.
They’re going to plug them into trenches. The purpose is to improve survivability from shell splinters and HE. Ukrainians suffered greatly in their shallow trench dugouts.
Probably some construction oligarch’s storage of septic tanks he decided to convert to trench bunkers to sell (or give away for rep points with Putin).
well this makes perfect sense and i feel moronic, thanks
>They’re going to plug them into trenches.
Better idea, but in that case they wouldn't have a firing port.
They’ll be partially buried. Beats the shallow dugouts used by ukorps. This is a modest but still meaningful upgrade to the trench line. I bet they’ll cover the top part with dirt and foliage, maybe camo netting. Giving a machine gunner better cover.
Definitely an upgrade this tells me the Russians are willing to dig in for the long haul. They are going to start building a trench system probably 20-25 miles back from their current front lines. Defense in depth and just wait the world out. They're hoping we get tired along with the Ukrainians and just say frick it you get what you are currently occupying and no more.
Yeah, that's not going to work unless Ukrainian artillery is destroyed, which Russia seems to have serious difficulties with.
Well they can't leave. They have to at least "liberate" Donbabwe and Luganda and ideally I believe they want a land bridge to Crimea as well, so they have to at least get that far. And Zelensky can't just capitulate either. There are far too many Western interests there now in aiding Ukraine to allow that. They're both in for the long haul. Russians can continue to whittle away at them I suppose but they'll grow tired of it eventually. But they aren't leaving with nothing and the Ukrainians for sure as frick aren't retaking Crimea. It's just a question of how long it takes them to consolidate control in the east and south and establish a hard front that they continue to push farther.
They all use about the same depth of trenches from the footage I've seen.
Anyway, this isn't a serious fortification and won't be more than a speed bump in a proper offensive. No one is crossing fields with unsupported light infantry.
Russians do.
those are just another targets for artillery with confirmed 3-5 people insde
Poo Tins
can't wait to see ukrainian corpse piles in a empty field next to these bunkers once YET ANOTHER epic kherson counteroffensive takes place
I think the idea is kind of ok, but only if they are going to bury them like 10 feet underground.
A nice cozy shelter to rest and sleep.
But judging by the windows, probaly they are going to use it as a bunker and die inside it.
Not all Russian areas use outhouses. They have a little of every type of sewage disposal throughout the Federation, including just holes in the ground like this.
are Russians squat-shitters?
Ones in rural areas without sewage systems probably are.
sorta the right size and shape for a subsurface utility;
sorta the right size and shape for a supportive bridge pylon;
>sorta the right size and shape for
maybe its bunkers for the frontline generals
Look like good aiming points for missiles and drones. Another moronic move by the Russians.
There's another negative you pleb Ukie shills didn't notice so I'm going to let you in. The trucks are not particularly loaded down yet carry 2 each. This implies a low rebar content. Ideally there could be up to 80% steel composition and they might be pretty good then - but its a lot less obviously.
A little thin? The roof on particular appears really fragile. I suppose it will be more or less immune to 5.56 M855 or 7N6/7N10, and small fragments. Anything else will penetrate at combat distance.
Russians are gonna put 3 feet of dirt on them, moron
And how do they plan on seeing out of those windows they've cut into the things once they do that?
timbers to hold back the earth id imagine
>3 feet
regulations say 6 feet for shallow graves, but I guess Russia wants the feet poking out for comedic effect
They are obviously worried about a potential counter attack if theyre willing to go to the effort of emplacing these while in artillery range
I sincerely doubt those are supposed to be pillboxes or bunkers. They're way too small to do anything practical and if a trucks hauling them there's no way they were meant to be used for fortification. They're probably for some infrastructure project or some shit.
Isnt this stuff about to last 3 days before getting shelled?
The roof looks really bomb resistant.
if they are going to be buried, why does the roof have the thinnest amount of concrete?
Maybe I take the concrete money for me and Natasha.
You doubt the stopping power of four inch concrete cieling?
>You will live in the cope pod
>You will eat the vatniks
that's some Enver Hoxha tier autism
vatniks moved to post WWII Albania
Christ those are thin roofs. Utter deathtrap.
we had those in UK, ours were made out of steel
Why does the Kremlin hate Russian soldiers?
They don't, they just don't care about the minority peasants which make up the large majority of troops.
In my language, "Žumpa" means cesspool. It looks exactly like the those things only it's burried and feces go in.
More like Ž
In English it is called a "septic tank"
A cesspool is a related thing that performs a similar function for treating sewage but is just an open topped pool rather than a tank.
>similar function for treating sewage
Nah mate a cesspool is not for any sort of treatment. Shit is piped in and drained by trucks once it's full, off to be treated elsewhere. Just a shit container.
No it totally does perform a function, and a vital one at that
A cesspool (or septic tank) is where the sewage undergoes separation, the first stage of treatment. Inside the pool, desner fluids and particulates sink to the bottom, while "clean" water floats to the top. This phenomenon enables you to siphon of the clear water for further treatment/recyling and is the first step in the overall sewage treatment process
Cesspools in particular have additional advantage of exposing the water to UV light, which kills off some bacteria at the cost of evaporation
>A cesspool (or septic tank)
You're mixing up two separate concepts. A septic tank is what provides such basic treatment. A cesspool is literally a big container for feces, it doesn't treat waste.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesspit
vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septic_tank
I finished a uni course on this not too long ago, the process occurs in both and both are used for it. The confusion may stem from another term used for them which is "settling pool"
Hell, this entire argument might be why people started calling them that in the first place
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesspit
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia
>/k/ sewage & water treatment
>innaground
>filled with waste
Frankly, it's the most /k/ think since katanas.
to further add to the confusion those sewage boxes can somehow function as an anaerobic digester tank if they are closed (and aerobic if open). regardless it's much more efficient to just transport the sewage to a treatment plant.
UV light? that kind of process usually happens in tertiary treatment iirc. primary treatment is physico-chemical (filters, coagulation, settling, pH adjustment n shit) then next is secondary treatment which is mostly biological (where you use microbes to treat your waste). after that is tertiary treatment which really depends in each facility - UV sterilization, ozone/chlorine sterilization, decolorization n shit happens in this step.
and i am still wondering how a sewage plant can be weaponized. maybe the sewage treatment microbes could be weaponized?
This is probably a dumb observation but - do the doors & windows look photoshopped to anyone else?
If they're light enough to be carried on a truck like nothing than it probably won't provide enough fortification.
The saddest part? This thing was showcased on multiple expo's in the '90s, supposedly.
Essentially, in is an ancient CROWS-like remote weapon turret, that can drop down and button up. Has a crew of like 1 person.
Weapons:
>30 GMG
>7.62 MG
>gayot ATGM
When closed, resistant against 155mm HE impacts. When open, small arms fire.
I want to appreciate your optimism, but I don't see any weapons station. Just a leaky a septic tank.
Putin's Russia is not the USSR.
It's much worse in every regard.
How many Donbabweans do they need to unload this?
Frick, I forgot to attach the video
kek
Meanwhile the world in Russia:
HAHA holy shit how is this real!?
This makes FoxNews and CNN look like absolute fricking geniuses.
Worst part is, while this sounds absurd, it seems to stick if you do it for 10 years.
>do it for 10 years
They've been doing it over 100 years and they won't do anything about it, that's why Russians are so pathetic. They know they government is lying but they are so assbroken that they don't do anything about it.
I see they're finally ready to install the designated shitting trenches
Everyday I'm more convinced I that /k/ is filled with children that come here just to meme. It could be summergays, but still.
Somewhere, Enver Hoxha is smiling.
You guys laugh, but we literally have these all over the northern coast of Taiwan. If you use Google Maps to look around the beach at Shimen (the rock arch on the coast) you'll find one.
I'd think what you have is more like what the UK had during WW2.
Proper fortifications, not just thin concrete pipes you can load multiple of into a truck
Those are actual pillboxes, if you've ever been to Albania you know the difference.
These things are a joke.
Putin's Potty Pillboxes