Russia paid almost 2billion $ for this. Why?

This is Shahed drone.

It has bomb in the front, 50hp engine in the back and wings on sides. Making one costs 20k-50k. In terms of mass produced, military kamikaze drones, you can't get any more primitive.

Russia paid 1750000000$ in gold for this technology. I know T-14 or SU-57 was a meme even pre-war. I know that due to sanctions Russian technology is going back in time, but much does it actually went that they had to pay shittone of gold for something that looks like a student's project?

I know it's easy to shit on Russians currently, but literally, how did someone justified paying billions for the most primitive drone technology imaginable to his supervisor, when that supervisor just expected bazillions of SU-57 and T-14 to be build in-house?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why?
    Desperation

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why?
    Because someone in procurement pocketed several million off it

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >That's roughly the same price as getting 15 F-35s
    Or 44 SU-35 (bringing Russian standards). That's not the point. Point is: how do you pay for a technology that is so primitive? I know a hammer is in general more useful than a pistol, but once you have a pistol factory, you should already have figured it out on how to make a hammer.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nice price list, now list the capabilities of each listed drone vs shahsneed.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny when you think this shit drone was made in Germany in the early 80s against soviet radar and can be seen in museums.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So they paid 2 billion dollars for knowhow of making a drone that is cheaper than it's 30 year old counterpart... and?

    My question is: how didn't they have brainpower to figure it out how to attach a bomb to a lawn mower engine with wings? This is exactly what some Iranian engineering students did few years before - and Russians just paid 2 billion dollar for this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Lancet company makes same drones as this. It's probably to keep good connections with Iran.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turn key solutions cost money

      Iran gave them electrical schematics, structural blueprints, etc. With a list of instructions translated by Google into Russian on how to assemble them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Iran gave them electrical schematics, structural blueprints, etc. With a list of instructions translated by Google into Russian on how to assemble them.
        But it's not rocket science (I mean literally). If Russians have industry that is capable of designing and building planes, they should've figure it out all by themselves for far less than 2 billion dollars. Less than 2 million probably.

        I'm not even talking about reverse engineering that thing - I'm talking about building something superior/cheaper. They were 2nd exporter of military equipment until very recently.

        [...]

        >actually Iran specified US Dollars
        From my understanding deal was settled in US Dollars, but paid in gold, as Russians really don't want to give up on their reserves of USish cash (they need it to stabilize ruble).
        >Making one costs 20k-50k
        >nonsense
        C'mon, objectively it should cost even less than that. However I understand that military equipment is generally overpriced and when Russia eventually buys license for pic related from Houthis, it'll cost them probably over 100k per piece.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    that picture is a bad example even if it's meant as a joke

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >like it harmed Russia in the slightest
    T-55
    look at the shit they are fielding

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >BUT WHAT ABOUT AMERICA
    The script is getting old. However the funniest part is that this still proves that Russians project everything.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    mines -that's why they always go in one line
    no trained crews available
    being scared of NATO wunderwaffe Javelin

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Its the location, if you look at the T-62s lost in 2024 the majority are lost in killzones like Krynky

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the majority are destroyed where majority of fighting occurs

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Krynky is almost entirely flooded so whatever vehicles you drive there you already know its going to be a loss

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Could have bought this german 1970/80s tech for a dime before 2014... kek.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    At this point, they reactivate any and all tanks they can find.
    At this point T-72/80 that are in good condition and rarer than good condition T-62 so older tanks are used while newer ones get fixed for use.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I know this picture is a joke but i wanna be nerd.
    What about cost of training of crew for every trebuchet, logistics of bringing in projectiles.
    Would that make it more expensive than one Abrams? It should probably.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ding ding ding and we have a winner here, all these idiots shilling for le cheap numerical superiority show they know shit about logistics, the Soviet Union attempted to play this concept to its fullest and we all know how it ended. Quantity not always have a quality of its own.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >4 people for abrams
    >4 people for trebuchet
    logistics for 40k people + ammo for 10k of trebuchets + moving 10k units and 40k people
    vs 1 abrams

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >drone gets shot down
    >zigger dies from himars

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They use them as SPGs and a T-55 sitting there firing shells all day doesn't make a great video.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe a way to support the iranian regime, maybe they are legit moronic and can't figure it out, at this point I don't know

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    1 year later, Ukraine starts droning refineries lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homosexuals should have done from the start and not drone moscow
      they are so lucky russians are moronic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, those drones are so shit, all it takes is a shitty electric engine + battery, a couple of remote control flaps, and an explosive head to build, can build it really cheaply and do insane damage while the counter is a 1000 times more expensive. Fly 50 of them into anything and you will overrun any air defense russia has.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ukraine is bombing refineries in the volga as of last week.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    akshually if you reverse roles and donate Ukraine 5000 shaheeds this would be literally Holocaust in Russia. But Western MIC can't offer what Iranians can.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Russians have corruption problem. They also have a brain drain problem. Russians are/ were also desperate for something quick. All of the Russian drones that I have seen look like stolen designs, so Russia might not have that much experience designing drones.
    Russians also had a problem with commie moron thinking, which lead them to believe technology is a bad thing.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >So imagine how fricking overpriced amerimutt garbage is
    Amerimutt garbage shoots hellfire missiles.
    Also speaking of big drones, where's the bayraktar?

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Those also cost 200 wood on top of the gold, and Soigu would steal all the wood.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >long range strike capability is still expensive

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    this cope again
    it causes no damage it's all civilians buildings

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >drone costs $200k
    >causes damage of $20k
    it was all worth it

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I suppose that explains the massive PR campaign they ran for it, kek

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >ethical implications
    >weapons kill people
    >people die when they are killed

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    one costs 20k-50k
    >nonsense
    it's a big RC plane with a bomb

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and it's manufactured by a country that is under sanctions and still wants to make a profit. The parts may be 20k, but the end cost to russians is tenfold.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Knowing Russia, it will probably keep the same 375k price during domestic production. Manufacturer is a state, so it will basically pay itself, and this 375k will count as a gpd. When Putin said growith is 5.5%, then gdp must grow by 5.5% and there are only so many way to fake these numbers.

        There are reports that Russia started using students as a workforce, so they don't need to add workhours to their costs.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So edgy, did you remember to wear your death metal T-shirt this morning kid?

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Oh, you're just a common garden variety moron edgelord then.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >15 F-35s, which imo is less useful than those drones

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >W Iran
    >L zog
    just say W putin rizz while we are at it

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >If it was really that simple
    it's literally that simple
    >Russia could do it themselves
    they can homosexual
    >Russia paid 2 billion
    it's money laundering homosexual

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

    it's wayyyy too obvious that you're a larping moron and probably underageb&

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real value of the Shahed is the AI targeting software that runs on FPGAs ripped from stolen korean washing machines.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    (You)
    >You won’t do shit and can’t do shit
    whatever will I do

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1755223194250723599
    It's over Lancet Pajeet
    >Ukraine is developing its own analogue of the Russian Lancet kamikaze drone. The drone will be able to hit targets at a distance of up to 40km, Deputy Prime Minister for Digital Transformation Fedorov said. He noted that testing is already underway.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably far more effective than Puccia's version when they get sent to the front too. We're gonna see Total Artillery Death on levels unheard of yet.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they have a 500mm penetration warhead. double of the fpv drones.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia paid nothing for this, because it was originally Russian.

    The "we will buy iran drones" routine was made so that wect would not be able to pin the planned drone attacks of Iran on western targets on Russians.

    The next thing would be not even hypersonics, but mine littering on the aircarrier groups to deny the crew entrance to the upper decks.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why do you sound just like the poojeets false flagging as democrat shills?

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a literal child replying to itself to cope

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Claims to be a vet
    >Constantly denigrates vets
    Hmmmmm

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    ngl it's kind of cathartic to see a post this absurdly edgy in 2024 with zero irony behind it

    Also you're bad at samegayging

    [...]

    but have a (You) anyway

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      video is african elite children learning how to war in Russian officer academies

      can't attest for the quality, but many african aristocratic families send their sons there, as they actually learn there how to war, not how to buy gun porn trash

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian officer academies
        >learn there how to war
        I highly fricking doubt it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the post called out for samegayging is also crossed out
      another L for Z

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >at least we know there a baby boom coming for the Russians
    (You)

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >casually Scam Russia out of over 27.100 metric tons of gold
    iranbros how are we doing?

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    this is over a month old but the lines are still the same, so just add some more carnage and there's your status

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What are you stupid fricks gonna do, tase yourself in the balls to death again for that ketchup demigod of yours? lmao

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    stuff that didn't happen moronic pig

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It did happen, but to Wagner which is one of the reason Priggy chimped out.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Oh so you're not a larping underageb&, you're an actual genuine schizo who got a dishonorable discharge after threatening to murder his commanding officer. I see.

    >least unhinged american supporter of puccia

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    >weak points of the US Bradley
    you are really a moron

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    moronic pig why are you so desperate to convince people that moronic russian pigs are not losing?

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it'll never get old that the once mighty russia now has to go begging to iran and north korea for wunderwaffen.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >being able to provide air superiority is less valuable than terror drones that get shot down 90% of the time and have accomplished literally nothing on the battlefield

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      of note, they still don't have air dominance within the immediacy of their borders

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but they fricked the ukies hard at they were First used

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy heck are you suggesting that surprise and massed long range strikes are effective tools???
        If only the Russians were capable of doing either now!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were overblown to shit by ziggers when they were first used.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    btw another factory got hit
    https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1755226922844315921

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    moronic pig why are you so desperate to convince people that moronic russian pigs are not losing?

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >talichads used to say they were soup cans
    hey vatBlack person, bradleys were never in afghanistan. goddamn the paid russian trolls are hilariously poor quality, just like the rest of their military. just non stop comedy gold.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the curious, there was another ineffective chimpout today. This looks particularly bad now with the price of sneed drones now known.
    Expect local vatniks to claim every intercept was by a Patriot while derailing threads like his one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia also blocked banana imports from Ecuador because they made a deal to send their Soviet equipment to the US (sending to Ukraine) in exchange for $200 million worth of new equipment. Now Monke has to buy banan from India.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bananas stained with feces
        Fricking hell

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's basically all they can do with the rupees they've been getting in exchange for oil. India won't approve export of anything useful for the war.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if the pic is accurate then that's 3 million US dollars in just shaheds alone
      can anyone ITT remind me how much NATO Standard 35×228mm costs again?

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >5 F-35s, which imo is less useful than those drones
    There it is, the most moronic post of February, and it's only day 7 of the month. This will not be beaten all month.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >doesn't even support trump politically, just out of pure frustration
    >repeating his Bradley schizo babble over and over again
    you really got mindbroken hard
    so when are you beheading your dad?

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Call me when you use your Shasneeds for anything other than to bomb apartment buildings maybe then we'll know how useful your lawnmowers actually are in modern combat.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Ukrainian MODs claims have been pretty good mostly, with the very occasional clanger.
    Meanwhile Russia is still claiming Moskva returned to port under it's own power.
    Where is Gerasimov btw?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gerasimov is enjoying an extended weekend at Sokolov's place.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    cool projection, we know poltards like you have a troon-tier suicide rate, if not even higher

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The claimed intercept rate is quite mundane, low even.
    you're a tourist + brown so you wouldn't know much about that.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's hilarious to me that you think anyone buys your story of being active duty. You're so childish you don't even realise how silly your claims look.
    Did you also punch out a drill sergeant? They were too afraid of you to make you do push ups?

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >can’t have the lads having too much fun now
    Oh god it's a bong. I'm so sorry you all had to see this. I think it may be one of the brown bongs though.
    t. Other bong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's actually a jeet
      imagine my shock

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >manlet Bench Appearo
    grow up kid, one day you'll realize that you were played for a fool by grifters

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/1698074501314438.gif/
    >meme flags
    You're lying about everything you said ITT

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Well, laughingisraelite.gif has convinced me russia is strong and not losing embarassingly.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >keeps projecting UKR suicide when we have weekly vatnik suicide threads
    damn, living rent free

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >shaheed
    Remember when they used a dead Russian tank to shill this?

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Please stop. It's so awkward watching you. The second hand embarrassment and spaghetti is off the scales.

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Those are some nice graves, it’s nice they aren’t in ones that got paved over for a road

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    300 zelenskys and 10 boris johnsons are also trapped there, very sad

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Omg that is TERRIBLE
    In how many units of time can we expect total hohol collapse?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Between 10 and 15 days.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Don’t worry F-16s and the incoming $100 billion will help them out.

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sure thing "lad". Keep trying to sprinkle in references to

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Supporters of Russia are enemies of humanity

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >trolled by NAFO troons so hard he copied their maymay .gif
    free rent, and rent free

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >your army
    Come on man, you are typing it out, larping isn’t that hard

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This chuggie larping as a soldoer having a meltdown
    Not so good with your hands when its not jerking to e-girl porn eh?

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why are they always so dysgenic? Literally bottom of the barrel genetic trash. Yuck.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Spiteful mutants

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Idk get on your knees and beg Kim for more and we'll see
    Second army of the world btw

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    When you're used to posting in an open sewer where threads are twitch chat tier just spewing streams of the same low thought edgy opinions you begin to mentally think like a chat member more than an individual. Because disagreeing results in you getting brigaded with insults it encourages a rigid dogmatic belief system.

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Tell me with a straight face this isn't the same Black person as picrel in

    https://i.imgur.com/VdgMgRL.png

    [...]
    [...]

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I cant lie to you like that

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm sure it's been said, but we have PGMs on missiles and bombs dropped from aircraft. We aren't really in the loitering munition game and I doubt we ever seriously will be because loitering munitions are strictly inferior to PGMs... when you have air superiority. If we expected to operate in a sufficiently contested airspace such that loitering munitions start to seem attractive, you can bet your ass that we'd be spending money on air superiority capabilities rather than suicide drones.

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Russia can force people to frick at gunpoint
    So why didn’t they before?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia can force people to frick at gunpoint
      >So why didn’t they before?
      ???

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/14/russia.lukeharding

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That homosexual seems to have run away after being exposed lmao

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >how dare you use your board as intended instead of making them all massive cesspools of moronation
    Gee, i wonder

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Even if we fail in our goals at least we weakened America for Puccia
    You arent even trying to larp as a human with goals, westerners arent suicidal slavs.

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m guessing this is real because of all the seething attempts to derail

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It likely is. Ive seen proofsters, a gorillion right wingers are russian traitors slide threads and some cope projections on Ukraine since these shascam threads came up.

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You couldnt even leave your basement for tendies lol

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >old Putain posted
    Why you didn't post latest Putain?

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Or just donthe white person thing and rig up the car so you can live to do it again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >white person thing
      what is the purpose in that? we're larping as ragheads here, being suicidal is part of the package.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good luck with whatever edgy terminal contrarianism episode you're having

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"technology"
    >rc enthusiasts can like build you far better and more advanced drones for far cheaper
    >can be shot down for cheap by SPAAGs
    was this shit just an excuse so putin could steal more?

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >That's roughly the same price as getting 15 F-35s, which imo is less useful than those drones
    Your opinion is fricking moronic, and you should seriously consider going to a doctor about that.

  97. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    all of the drones you linked are multiple use, while shahed is single use.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A single hellfire missile costs as much as a Shahed.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And it would be better comparision than multiple use drones linked, so why link image with them instead of hellfire?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Range of a hellfire is 10 km, so you can't use it to hit positions behind enemy lines without sending the expensive drone behind enemy lines. Plus, the warhead is much smaller on a hellfire.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            dont need a huge warhead when you have a tiny CEP. hell we took the warhead out and replaced it with knives because we didnt need a warhead to kill one guy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It can also target things other than defenseless civilian buildings.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turns out being able to actually hit something comes at a premium.

  98. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Anon,the targeting computer on the F-16 allowed it to fire dumb bombs with precision close to that of PGMs.The F-35 has even better hardware,so those 15 would be the same as 15k JDAMs for the russians.

  99. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >conveniently forget Desert storm and all those Israel against its neighbors wars
    moron

  100. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Are you one of these morons that think the 7 Day War was fake?

  101. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >some goatherders in a pickup or some kids at a wedding
    that's what the typical anti-US movement amounts to.

  102. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sadly no, even if nominally free they still have an economic value due laws of supply and demand, no it doesnt matter if you dont believe in them, like gravity they are inexorable because its just thermodynamics and causality seen from another angle, hence why in the end all these alternative economic models always come crashing.

  103. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >has to cook up what ifs to cope with the L
    Lol

  104. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >nooo its not fair because every american enemy is too weak and pathetic
    guess every american enemy shouldn't be weak and pathetic then, this includes russia and iran btw.

  105. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Black person zoomer thinks he's a vet
    what timeline is this.

  106. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ech what got blown up in russia today due past days shills are on hyper coke kohodyl bender or did something scary arrived from Europe since burger bros geting cucked by some LARPing homosexual who thinks he's a Christian

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's been a lotta buzz in the media about the situation becoming dire in awkdivka so there's been a recent online mobilization to try and capitalize on some good old demoralization

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean that's kinda true there that adievka will fall without artilery fraging on masses but ukies trying to offset that situacion with drones and other cheep shit they can make let's hope they can hold on to make as painfull as posable to russian zerg rushes just like bakhmut and minimize damage to surrounding towns

  107. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gets shot down by pic related
    Putin probably gets his financial advice from PrepHole

  108. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Making one costs 20k-50k
    You'd think it would cost $2k-5k.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aircraft grade rotax engine aint cheap
      https://www.twz.com/bizarre-theft-wave-targets-same-rotax-engines-used-in-iranian-drones

  109. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the way how government contracts work is simple
    company A asks for $10M - basic material, low skilled workmanship, lasts 10 years at best, if the stars align
    company B asks for $20M - premium materials, skilled workmanship, lasts virtually forever
    company C asks for $50M - subcontract company A, keep $20M for yourself and $20M goes to procurement officials

  110. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick are shills working overtime to defend this dogshit drone? It's worthless militarily. The only notable thing it did is kill a low triple digit number of civilians during the entirety of their use.

  111. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >military equipment is generally overpriced
    >says who?
    Says I.
    >why?
    Because when some country needs e.g. 100 tanks, it will buy 100 tanks. When you feel threatened, you'll buy a gun, no mattter if it costs you 100$ or 1000$.

    Government contracts in general are always chance for companies to inflate prices (it's like that in any country, not just corrupted shitholes), but military spendings in particular is a jackpot.

    When Iran was using Shaheds in Iraq or Syria it costed them 20 000$ per piece because it's literally bigger rc plane with a bomb attached. When Russia started buying them, price jumped to 375 000$ per piece. So Russia paid 1 750 000 000$ to Iran, and it can now domestically produce them at price of around 50 000$ per piece. And it's all the same 20 000$ rc plane with a bomb.

  112. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >if you think that this is at all possible, you totally don't understand finance
    You seem to not understand Russia (assuming you're genuine). Meanwhile Rosstat retroactively changed gdp of Russia for 2022, to make it fit their numbers on 2023. They did it by re-counting of assets that are now taken into gdp (but weren't in 2022), but it all started with a stroke of a pen of an ex-commie, economic moron that currently holds the highest position in Russian Federation.

    When Chinks give their gdp, they at least try to justify it by some inflated investments done by local governments in each of their provinces. Russians stopped give a frick entirely, as their country turns into oversized Iran/North Korea hybrid. Poor Elvira better starts to avoid higher floors and especially windows.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as their country turns into oversized Iran/North Korea hybrid

      Please don't insult the DPRK and The Islamic Republic by comparing them to Russia.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Please don't insult the DPRK and The Islamic Republic by comparing them to Russia.
        Let's be fair - Iranian quantum processor from Aliexpress was only slightly less ridiculous than Russian dude pretending to be a robot.

        >Russian officer academies
        >learn there how to war
        I highly fricking doubt it

        But it actually makes sense. Russia is an African country in the way it operates (even how it's economy is based on raw resources, not on actual industry) and at the same time it somehow became biggest country in the world.

        African countries have high birth rate for meat wave tactics, but they don't have funds for this NATO nonsense, like "air superiority" or whatever. If African youth was send to western military academies they would be teached on things they would've never had chance to apply.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Let's be fair - Iranian quantum processor from Aliexpress
          Tbf they're describing an algo for AShM that has "quantum" in its name (Quantum-behaved Particle Swarm Optimization), the board itself wasn't important. Twitter journos distorted that topic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stop saying that like being an autarky is a bad thing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not. Iran and Norks are autarkies, Russia is isn't.

  113. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So many deleted post, what happened this time? Zalu fired?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Black person

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mods?

  114. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What I'm wondering is what is it about Iran that allows them to produce these by the thousands but not Russia?

    It's not sanctions because Iran has been under economic sanctions in some form or another since 1979. They were able to build their kamikaze drone industry IN SPITE of sanctions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Friendship is magic

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