https://fxtwitter.com/200_zoka/status/1646586927754215429?s=46&t=AVTkecRtM05jy-DR5Ubw8g
Russians officially have unupgraded T-54/55’s at the front. Zoka is a Serbian who sucks russian dick so uh… how’s it going zsisters
Russia is now officially Somalia Teir
>Russians officially have unupgraded T-54/55’s at the front
BRUH
That's where obama got the idea for the suit
Rarely does a post and a webm fit so fricking nicely together.
How does it compare with Leo 1 Zr. 2023?
Leopard 1A5’s are more comparable to the T-62M in terms of optics. The Leopard 1A5 is superior in essentially every metric to the T-55A here.
Leopard 1A5 are comparable to early Leopard 2.
No. Leo 1A5s are comparable to Leo2A1s (EMES 18 has a stabilized thermal sight) in optics, they are better than anything older than a T-72BA in that department. T-62Ms are like M60A1 +RISE in optics.
>Leopard 1A5’s are more comparable to the T-62M in terms of optics
Lolno. The Leopard 1A5 has a more sophisticated FCS and optics than ANY Russian tank, including their latest T-90s and T-72 upgrades.
It's more than a match for any Vatnik shitheap.
>T-62M in terms of optics
so it has ww2 tier fcs and optics?
in the case on the t-55 the fcs is the optic
T-62M was intended to be a full-modernization to bring it up to T-72 ural standards
so mechanical ballistic computer, night vision, laser range finder, and gun stabilizer
this is about on par with the M60A1 obr 1975, which had everything but the laser rangefinder
M60A3 leaves all versions of the T-62 in the dust, with digital ballistic computers, its own laser rangefinder, and passive night vision (T-62 IR nightvision was only good for 200m under starlight iirc)
only the T-55M and T-55AM had comparable deep modernization
probably because they never expected to hace to dig that deep in their inventories
Leopard 1a5 zr. 2023 has thermals, night vision, firecontrol system, reverse speed above 5 km/h and ERA. It's equivalent to T72A obr. 2023
>How does it compare with Leo 1 Zr. 2023?
Leopard 1A5 bassically has the same-ish thermal gun sight and fire control system (laser range finder and automatic lead) that the Leopard 2A4 has, and generally has more advanced 105mm SABOT ammo. T-54 has thicker armor, but it's all pre-composite steel armor that doesn't hold up to even older HEAT, so it's kinda a moot point.
Its bassically better in every category.
T-34 WHEN
>T-34 WHEN
Jeez these numbers might have been more accurate then I thought
Look at it
It's so cute
I hope we get to see one of these things blow the frick up
the idea of slapping era bricks on a t-34 is so fricking funny to me
that's a t-34 armata
MADE FOR BBC (Big Bradley Cannon)
soon
And? It still slings shells right? It can still put an HE shell into a building where infantry are hiding while being immune to everything but the most modern Western infantry AT weapons. The tank is unironically fine. It's probably being used only at checkpoints and as a sturmgeschutz for supporting infantry. The tank is unironically fine. Also modern shells can be fired that can penetrating the modern Western tank and it can be used as light artillery platform. A tank is still a tank and Russia has thousands of these so it's fine. The tank is unironically fine. It's much better to use up these old shitty tanks on rope a dope defensive actions before using the thousands more modern t-90s and t-14s. THE TANK IS UNIRONICALLY FINE.
Uhhhh it's not immune to any rpg.
SHUT UP PIDOR! WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THESE ARE TEARS OF JOY!
yeah, too bad a couple of dropped grenades or 1 (one) mortar round can still dispose of them even more easily than T-72s
Black person the M72A2 LAW can kill this shit from the front. An RPG-7 is almost overkill.
But how are you, anon? Are you fine?
I have angst, anon. Some days I wonder why it is at all.
>The tank is unironically fine.
>The tank is unironically fine.
>The tank is unironically fine.
>THE TANK IS UNIRONICALLY FINE.
I'm a 30 year old man. My father had me moderately late at 35. This tank went into production 3 years before my father was born. That is insane.
Despite the name, the T-54/T-55 actually entered service in 1948.
I bet a lot of the design team for the T-55 was born in the 1800s.
>lead designer Aleksandr A. Morozov born in 1904
>lead engineer in charge of manufacturing Leonid Kartsev born in 1922
Is modern tenk made by young virile enginer what now american pig of black homosexual?
Russia could field guys with recoilless rifles riding shopping carts and someone would still turn up to inform the masses that it's okay because it's still a tank
the unupgraded ak-47 was put into service after this thing
Controlled op post.
Every Ukraine thread there's this long ass wall of post counter arguging op in gibberish with guaranteed (you)s.
+ these "troll" bait posts don't get banned when non controlled op posts do.
>never heard of jokes before
>THE TANK IS UNIRONICALLY FINE.
the tank will evaporate in the face of the lightest of even slightly modern (1970<) AT.
Those literal pocket rockets the Poles are churning out will take care of it.
Komar will not work but those FPV drones with RPGs ziptied to them will.
>Komar will not work
>260 mm of pen v.s. 100 mm at 60°
>https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG/Asset/RPG-76_Komar_Polish_40mm_Anti-Tank_Rocket_Launcher
Not reliably maybe but it'll go through the front at a favorable angle.
if it hits the barrel straight on maybe
The Poles have restored Komar production? Was it because of their experience in the Middle East? And does it accept Bulgarian 40/106 mm thermobaric rockets?
not yet - its planned in 2-3 months as minor upgrades are introduced (fuse with self destruct and plastic launcher tube)
What can they destroy???
it penetrates most things that are not front armor of mbt
- and in case of hitting autoloader results are spectacular
Saddam had better tanks in greater quantity in Desert Storm and it didn't help.
>The tank is unironically fine.
I repeat, the tank is unironically fine
there is no panic in the turret, all things are known by those that need to know them, the noose is tightening.
>there is no panic in the turret
Stupid westoids don't know that the rugged and battle-tested turret doubles as its own recon drone after receiving a Faustpatrone 30
Panzerfaust (Klein) to the front of the hull.
>it's fine its fine its fine ITS FINE EVERYTHING IS FINE HELP ME DADDY PUTIN MY BRAIN IS COLLAPSING INSIDE ITSELF
>And? It still slings shells right?
I mean, 90 kg is not a small amount of munitions to fling, and 300 meters is plenty if you’re stuck in intense trench warfare…
you're right, why haven't the russians deployed tactical trebuchets yet? It's a tried and true weapon!
>"Behold hohols, our latest wunderwaffe! How will HATO save you now xaxaxaxaxa!"
>Deploys crude replica of 13th-Century siege weapon the size of a fricking house to throw barrel bombs at a random patch of scrubland 150m away
>Improperly stored, cheaply produced bungie cord snaps half way through, casting the barrel bomb a mere 20m away
>Shockwave from the bomb causes the trebuchet to fall over, crushing the team of mobiks sent to operate it (They were trained helicopter pilots)
>Ukie drones watching all of this fly into view of the Russians and deploy scorecards rating this shot
>Give it a 5/10 as the barrel bomb actually managed to leave the sling this time
>/misc/ fembois proceed to blame the Juice and eunuchs for this most recent failure
from the bomb causes the trebuchet to fall over, crushing the team of mobiks sent to operate it (They were trained helicopter pilots)
seems legit
You would think. In a PURELY defensive role in the 2nd and 3rd lines maybe you could argue a case for using them as basically static fortifications. But the capacity of "slings shells" isn't anywhere near good enough to justify them being sent to active combat zones. If you want to use artillery get artillery, redeploy artillery, if you want tanks redeploy tanks, take T-72/80's from garrisons in Siberia, but get the tanks you trained to fight a war with. T-55/54's are not "good enough" in any capacity, having a gun doesn't negate the extra logistical strain their presence will put on your back end. They need vastly more fuel and maintenance than towed artillery, they need 4 crewmen, the russian military trains tanks with crews of 3, that's an extra logistical strain, now every 3 T-55's is taking as many men as 4 T-72's need, and they need to be trained differently. Theyre introducing a significant drain on already inadequate supply, and for a tank that's been obsolete since the 60's, and is going to die even more easily than the ones you're already losing. They're the dope getting roped currently.
Who will train the men???
I mean are there people who are proficient in operating these dinosaurs???
Excellent question. There were some in service in the 90's. Maybe there's some grandpas who can recall enough to train up some lambs
You think that they are going to receive training, or just say "vasily you put pointy metal thing in hole, nyet, nyet vasily, pointy part first, like in showers".
How many arms do you reckon the loading breaches are going to eat?
Get some fresh pasta, this ones almost a year old(Its ever increasing relevance is still amusing though)
This is excellent, made better by how many don't see the satire. 10/10 anon.
And? It still slings shells right? It can still put an HE shell into a building where infantry are hiding while being immune to everything but the most modern russian infantry AT weapons. The tank is unironically fine. It's probably being used only at checkpoints and as an assault gun for supporting infantry. The tank is unironically fine. Also modern shells can be fired that will penetrate modern russian tanks and it can be used as self-propelled gun. A tank is still a tank and israel has hundreds of these so it's fine. The tank is unironically fine. It's much better to use up these old shitty tanks on rope a dope defensive actions before using the thousands more modern leopard 2A7s and M1A2s. THE TANK IS UNIRONICALLY FINE.
Chile might still have a few wonder if they would sell. Vietnam has SU-100 and T-34 as well.
I want a Yom Kipper war reenactment
As a Chilean I can tell you we don't have any of them no more, we have Leo 1A5Vs tho. But we need them to kill peruvians without sea
Romania is sitting on 60 SU-100s that are in complete working order, just sitting there waiting to be used because not even Africans want them.
I keep waiting for the day Ukraine asks for them.
If the Russians have the doctrine and the training in place to use older tanks as assault guns, then yes. Old tank is fine as Stryker mobile gun system with frickhueg armor. Da. However, nothing we have seen or heard indicates they are capable of doing so. EVERYTHING we have heard and learnt indicates they will simply be force-fed into the meatgrinder, along with everything else.
even basic assault guns would need a thermal sight to spot targets in concealment and good all-aroudn vision to not get destroyed by an RPG lying in wait
all the T-55 can do is drive up as close as possible and spend 10 seconds laying the gun to fire because it FCS consists of the gunner doing mental math
The only use it has is as self propelled artillery that uses a round with large stockpiles remaining.
Russians have mt-12 rapira at guns for 100mm shells. And they would unironically be better for the job because they at least have a indirect fire sight and are less of a nightmare to maintain
>And? It still sling shells right? It can still put an APHE shell into a shed where infantry are shitting while being immune to most western service rifles. The tank is unironically fine. It's probably being used only at checkpoints and as a feldgendarmerie for shooting retreating infantry. The tank is unironically fine. Also 37mm shells can be fired that can penetrating the Western 1950s APC and it can be used as very light artillery platform. A tank is still a tank and Russia has dozens of these so it's fine. The tank is unironically fine. It's much better to use up these old shitty tanks on rope a dope defensive actions before using the hundreds more modern T-28s and T-35s. THE TANK IS UNIRONICALLY FINE.
The Chinese knocked out a T-62 during the Sino-Soviet Border War using an RPG-2. Not an RPG-7. An RPG-2. An M72 LAW would be overkill against a T-55. Hell, from the right angle you might even be able to penetrate it with a M20 Super Bazooka.
I bet a panzerfaust could
you know i couldn't understand one yhing... is the tank fine?
It makes a wonderful heater under the right circumstances.
>The tank is unironically fine
Why did you repeat it 4 times?
Are you trying to convince yourself?
To make it obvious to anyone reading that he's joking, and yet you were still too moronic
>THE TANK IS UNIRONICALLY FINE.
>Bakhmut is legally captured
>Kherson "forever" Russian
>Moskva sailed home on its own power
>2 weeks special operation
THE TANK IS UNIRONICALLY FINE. The popcorn is popcorning! I Mike from the Texas Oblast am demoralized.
bro the fact these are on front line means all the good tanks didn't fricking work these are even shitter
it is unironically fine, better than no tank, and no amount of mutt jeering changes that
yes, a more modern tank would be better, they don't have enough of them, any other 'points'?
why do people keep falling for this bait
>bait
After 10 years of this, you should know it's not bait.
OMG Putin hi!!!
Now even vatBlack folk can't deny the pathetic state of their army, lmao
Oh they'll try
It doesn't even have ERA? What the frick is going on?
Leaks suggested Russians have maybe 500 tanks in theater right now. This might legit be the best they can spare without going into “we don’t have shit to counter an actual attack on the motherland” reserves.
419, and that was two months ago.
>Leaks suggested
Leak was moronic because it counted Russian operational tanks before war started without accounting T-62M, T-72, T-80 they reactivated from storage, T-90S they stole from Pajeets and whatever they managed to finish to build in last 14 months. Considering Ukraine managed to destroy and capture 50 T-62M already they definitely reactivated and sent to front several hundred T-62M + who knows how many to upgrade to T-62M obr 2023
Even so, how the frick do you run out of ERA? It was so numerous at the start of the invasion that Ztards were slapping it onto trucks (pic related).
They probably had no welders to attach mounting points for ERA
That'd genuinely kill the driver if it went off, wouldn't it?
and disintegrate the vehicle. They essentially turned it into a VBIED because they're moronic.
You see you are assuming those era elements still have the explosives in them
Those things serve no practical purpose, they wasted time to make things look """cool"""
The hohol fears the vatnik Obama
>strap ERA onto everything
>run out of ERA
It was probably sabotage anon, I bet the west did this.
They already lack the means to defend their own territory. Putin knows West won't attack so there is no need to have reserves. The way Russia wages war is the only proof anyone needs about its motives being purely imperialistic and not based on any sort of security threat.
The west might not, but any of the other surrounding warhawks might
Wut? The "defend le motherland" reserves have been spent already you fricking moron. They arent sitting on top of stockpiles of modern armaments while pushing WW2 tier drivel to the frontline.
>spare without going into “we don’t have shit to counter an actual attack on the motherland” reserves.
they have tapped into that for a while now. Cruiser pieces recovered from their botched attacks showed chips with print dates going back just a month before they were used
Surely they can't go further back can they
I will legit bust a gut laughing if they start looting Kubinka or bring out those parade T-34s.
Brace for T-34 Obr. 2024.
T-26 confirmed for brawl!
Is that a thumbnail from my favorite ww2 youtube channel I see?
Slap some ERA on it, she'll be right.
Oh, but they can Anon.
As the drawgay foretold, so shall it come to be!
They've already sent horses to carry supplies.
Tannu what now?
Kargyraa Rap has got to be one of the top 5 best Tuvan throat-singing hiphop tracks of all time. It has nothing to do with your posts, but more people need to know about it.
holy frick someone else has heard of Ondar
dat date bro
Forgive me Putin-sama... I... I have to use my full power...
Of course.
That's exactly the pattern we see every time. They pull some directly to the front, they upgrade some, we get confirmation that the unupgraded ones are actually at the front, we wait around a few weeks, there's a Ukrainian counter-offensive.
Would a T-55 withstand a pounding from a MK.19?
Yes, but it wouldn’t be having fun.
When the did captain crunch syrup came out? Damn homie now I am
Hungry.
What's the oldest tank Russia still has in storage? IS-3?
maybe if we're lucky Puccia will reactivate the one surviving T-35 that was left
IS/T-10
Isn't this still better than nothing?
no its a piece of propaganda shit that literally breaks in half if it does not drive along the road cause the fine art of metallurgy was lost to russians between 1930-1950
IS-8/T-10*
FTFY
In high numbers? I honestly think this is it.
People like to meme about T-34 or T-44 or shit like that, but gods honest truth I don't think they have it in them to restore those museum pieces. I mean, they famously had to buy their few running T-34s from abroad for their little Pride parade. I doubt they can dip into some reserve somewhere.
I honestly think this is it. I mean, we'll probably see some other vehicles that get proper post-WW2 vintage (I'm personally holding out for PT-76, they're basically the same hull as the BTR-50P which we've seen pulled out, and the newest variants are newer than the T-54), but Tanks? I think they're done.
There was footage around Feb (?) of what looked like PT-76s being resurrected somewhere in Crimea but later cleared footage showed they were BMP-2s. My disappointment was immeasurable.
Yeah I'm stoked for PT-76s to come out and get used like real tanks when they're light enough to float in water. When they get hit they won't even toss their turrets, they'll just vaporize them.
The first TOW kill was a PT-76.
I think people see T-54 and assume it's from 1954.
It's from 1946.
Presumably the ones actually out there are upgraded/later production but there's a high chance one of them could have a hull dating first few years after the war.
>It wasn't a meme
>It wasn't photoshop
>The train delivering these things wasn't going to a storage facility
>They aren't been used as a third line of defense in Luhansk
>They're on the frontline in Zaporizhzhia
This gives me huge Kherson flashbacks. Remember how: those videos were old, it was going to Syria, it was going to Chinese border to free T-72 that will go to front, it was going to be upgraded, it was going to Separatists, it was going to be used as second line, before it appeared on frontlines of Kherson
see:
The only difference is they don't have that many T-55s really.
YOU LIED TO ME
HOW CAN I TRUST EVER AGAIN
I remember that. Why did you guys lie to me???
they made the mistake of trusting russian official stats
FORGIVE ME ANONS.
How were we to know that they would devolve into the Third Congo after a single year?
>4th Guards Anon was a fricking prophet
Hard to believe it’s been a year since
Post screens
Can only find the second thread. In the first he mixed up the 4th and 47th in terms of where they were deployed in the Cold War but was mostly correct about everything else
Those were some great threads
Shit really hit the fan
>a Serbian who sucks russian dick
That's redundant.
If we get to see a breakthrough on a company of Leopards after they push through these frickers, I pray tonGod we get drone footage of the breakout units laying SABOT after SABOT into RUS arty units.
IMO, Puccian artillerists hearing of any breakthrough at all will probably abandoon their positions and artillery pieces long before the Ukrainian hardware gets within range, lol
"Sabot" isn't an acronym, dummy.
Is it French? I swear to God, that language haunts me.
Yes sabot is french. It originally meant a simple hollowed out wooden shoe poor fricks used. It's the origin of the word sabotage.
>The English word derives from the French word saboter, meaning to "bungle, botch, wreck or sabotage"; it was originally used to refer to labour disputes, in which workers wearing wooden shoes called sabots interrupted production through different means. A popular but incorrect account of the origin of the term's present meaning is the story that poor workers in the Belgian city of Liège would throw a wooden sabot into the machines to disrupt production.[1]
I can't wait to the day the war archives are inevitably open up to the public just to see how vat leaders become more desperate especially the documented meetings were they resort to using old equipment
It will start off as cold and scientific during the first few months, then become slightly more emotional when the advance stalls before rapidly spiralling into schizo rants during the Kherson and Kharkiv counter-offensive. It will then descend into a slurred, incoherent mess during the winter offensive and finally will end with the last pages being smothered in literal shit.
the only way that would happen is with a complete military defeat and occupation. See post war germany. Otherwise the archives remain closed or are burned down even if a new civil war breaks out
Never underestimate the sheer sheeting pride and spite of a vatnik
The problem with Russia is that they need a new national identity not based in vatnikhomosexualry to leave their past behind.
Both Japan and Germany were able to do that and become sucessful, but russians missed their chance in the 90s and they seen unable to get out their moronic mindset.
I don't think they'll ever change. That national identity is how they cope with being a shitty, poor, corrupt and inept country, and if there's a collapse that's where they're headed, yet again, and they'll build that PUCCIA STRONK national identity back up again.
It honestly is kind of disgusting how Russians have the ability to mix their history into some slurry of contradictions where they can simultaneously praise bolshevism and Orthodox church and see no problems with that, make people like Stalin a hero, and always blame west on all their misery. The complete unwillingness and inability to look at past shit and say ”yeah, that was actually shit, better not repeat it” is their downfall, and until they figuratively kill their past, they are doomed into a cycle of revanchist misery.
>zoka 200
wasn't he supposed to switch sides if russia lost watermelon city?
he shamelessly said later that he was lying, so it didn't matter
>expecting any sort of integrity from a "man" like that
Come on, anon. That's just naive.
OMG 2THREAD! 2THRREAD LOLL
remember literally 50+ shahed threads per day?
Or the steam of threads about the general abandoon.
>Russians officially have unupgraded T-54/55’s at the front
how long until they're down to nuggets and technicals
LDPRQ+ already had them from week 1
>Lugansk wanted to live like Moscow, now Moscow lives like Lugansk
When joke about mass forced mogilization still holds.
>LDPRQ+
donbabweans already had nuggets from the beginning
these days it's also random crap like PPShes and Tokarevs too
>now
BT-7s when
Oh no no no bros
They told me they were gonna get those thermals like the T-62s!!
they told me they were gonna be sent to china to get modernized!
how come they're just basic b***h ass T-54/55s? what happened?
>tank is a tank
>cumrad, your mission is to hunt leopard 2
Can someone give an honest assessment as to how Russia has been a world power for centuries? Having a shit ton of people to flood somewhere as soldiers makes sense, but how were they competent enough to maintain the empire? Now it kinda makes sense as it seems they’ve perfected internal propaganda, but that wasn’t possible until the SU.
Russia hasn't been a world power for centuries. Historically it was considered a regional player in Eastern Europe/the Near East at best, and an impoverished backwater at worse. It's not until Peter the Great that the important parts of Europe start taking Russia seriously but even then its importance was more about what Russia could do then its reality.
>Russia has been a world power for centuries
they have not is the short answer. Not even perceived. Before WW1 there was Crimean war where western imperials were absolutely shitting on the backwards asiatic. Then WW1 happened and was such a ass kicking by the german b-team that 20 years later the performance back then (plus winter war) became a convincing basis for moving forward with Barbarossa. Then it happened and vatniks lost such apocalyptic quantites of material and men it would have at best resulted in a stalemate on the Volga for them if the assmad sheeting anglos had not interfered to own the germs.
All perception of stronk rasha is based upon WW2 and propaganda projection from the cold war. WW2 is heavily deformed from its actual, isolated performance would have been due to burger-bong industrial capacity. Cold war was a giant smoke and mirrors bamboozling the easily lead westerners that take everything at face value coming out of the asiatics mouth.
Subversion and face saving propaganda are the only thing vatnigs are good at
>Cold war was a giant smoke and mirrors bamboozling the easily lead westerners
Always remember how the West was still hyping the USSR as a danger up to 1991, despite knowing that they were fricked behind the scenes:
> U.S. Intelligence Estimates of the Soviet Collapse: Reality and Perception
> https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/20080229.pdf
I'm convinced that the West has been overplayed them as a boogie man for decades just to justify local policies and budgets. That's also why Germany/France had no problems about dealing with Putin: They saw their real weaknesses and didn't believe they could be so moronic to try to go full imperial again.
A simple look at military expenditure would have told anyone that the "muh big bad Russia" thing was just propaganda. And yeah I assume western intelligence knew that they were even MORE fricked than that
>Bomber gap
>Missile gap
>Soviets didn't have any operational strategic nuclear weapons in 1961 gap
>Domino Theory
Etc, etc. The Great Russian Bear never existed. Ever. What did exist, however, were the interests of the MIC.
Damn completely missed this one until now, have to appreciate the effort.
>we're gonna see irl fulda gap battles
Kek I screencapped this post for this moment. I hope that anon sees this.
Yes I remembered a 2 months old post.
My body is ready for Horse Archer Obr. 2023 (ERA)
>some JDAMs didn't explode because it couldn't arm properly on Doviet planes
>some JDAMs were not calibrated on land, which made them miss the target
>Russian EW sometimes made JDAM miss
>every target was still destroyed by JDAM because it's cheap as frick compare to Excalibur and HIMARS
I don't understand points of this post, are you happy that Russians are getting killed by Ukrainian airforce?
oh no the cheap as frick pgm conversion of a fricking dumb bomb didnt perform perfectly agains ew a couple time america is finished!
>The US is losing a war to Somalia now too
Kek
....Are.... are you well? The US Military isn't involved with Somalia and the Somaliland conflict. We gave guns to BOTH SIDES, we just told Somalia to PLEASE use the guns against the Terrorists taking over the country, and they did not.
He's having a bit of a breakdown, pls understand.
>The Taliban is unironically better equipped than the Russian Army.
Lost
>struggling against ISIS
For me, it's the Tsar Tank obr. 2025
Stop pretending that Russia is an African country. Africans wouldn’t be able to run a war anything like this. African countries usually don’t have MICs nor an industrial base to support a war at ANY level, except maybe food (and even that is a stretch). Yes, Russia IS Africa-tier in terms of corruption which drags them down severely but it’s still a first-world industrialized nation for the most important parts.
>Stop pretending that Russia is an African country
I'd love to but they need to quit acting like one first.
Honestly I'd say calling them Africa-tier is an insult to Africans: I've seen people in African conflicts make far better use of limited resources than Russia has been doing
>vatnik asshurt over africa comparisons
The Africans have the excuse of being dirt-poor, unindustrialised backwaters that physically cannot afford or create anything better. The Russians can, it's just that they are so comedically incompetent that it would be hilarious if they weren't killing innocent people in their impromptu national slapstick routine.
You're right, unlike Russia a lot of African countries are actually on an upward trajectory despite facing a lot of issues have proven to be able to utilise very limited resources well
Russia truly has no equivalent in the world
Russia is a second world country.
And it's going to become a 4th world country in our lifetimes.
Pre-industrial agrarian Russian when?
After all that's happened, I'm pretty sure that even Unit 777 could put up a more competent fight than their Russian equivalents.
>African countries usually don’t have MICs nor an industrial base to support a war at ANY level
Neither does Russia. That’s why they want Ukraine.
The TL:DR version:
1. Ukrainian pilots / crews messed up some JDAM-ER drops.
2. Local analysts suggest it must be because of Russians jamming GPS
3. Pentagon analysts say that shouldn’t be possible, check for handling errors.
4. Educate Ukrainians on how to properly manage JDAMs.
Russians HAVE been trying to jam stuff but aside from taking down cell phone towers they haven’t been very successful. Although I don’t know GPS is secured.
Soon
>the HEAT grenade mark on the hatch
nice touch
What do you make of this anons?
That's a Ukrainian tank
You mean a formerly Russian tank captured by Ukraine and then exchanged for more modern tanks.
It's actually a lot bigger than that, its just in the background.
displaying captured tanks at Bucee's is a war crime
Hey redeffect you homosexual serb. I know you are going to read this. Can you show me these supposed upgrades they are going to put on all those t-54 again? LMAO
Well those are just about the only munitions in the war older than anything the Russians use, likely with 90s guidance fins slapped on, duct taped to a Mig-29, and occasionally they get jammed. Big shocker.
If you knew the source like the rest of the thread you'd not insult them.
How will these fare against this?
No pen from the front, but should be pretty effective from any other angle
T-55 can pen it from any angle, but would have difficulty finding a spot it can engage it without getting shot first
autocannon can only cause a M-kill frontally through optic hits or track hits, but it can penetrate from the side
ATGM, however, will defeat any T-55 armor package
the bigger deal is being able to fire first, better thermals means long-range spotting and identification
I you recall Mariupol, we've had to separate videos of T-72 being K-killed with side and rear penetrations from a BTR-3 30mm cannon. T-55 is even worse. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it can't actually resist spalling and any 30mm AP hit anywhere on the hull will cause small bits of spall to fly off and bounce around the crew compartment.
How will these fare against this?
It might work if you can get a whole belt to hit the roughly the same area with every bullet.
Since the hull is non-composite, every hit theoretically makes the place you struck just that little bit weaker and the the Front is only 120mm thick at its strongest point. I wouldn't want to push my luck, but I could see it happening if the tank is abandoned and you just want to wreck it without using explosives.
Although saying all that and digging up the stats, it could probably punch right through the side as it only has 20mm of armour on the lower side part.
Just shoot the tracks
Cope. One shot from that and you turn into paste.
>One sh-ACK
>hitting anything
>with a basic optical sight and maybe some ali-express thermal sight
>and no fire control system or stabilizer
>The first T-54 prototype was completed at Nizhny Tagil by the end of 1945.
Quick reminder that ruzzia is fielding ww2 era tanks now.
That means they are winning, right?
You know those things only cost like $20 grand right?
what happened to all those t-55am with extra armour and laser rangefinder?
Those upgrade kits were mainly for Warsaw Pact allies with huge T-55 fleets like Poland, East Germany or the Czechs. The Soviets were planning to phase out the T-55 and as such didn't bother much with the upgrade kits.
IIRC the Soviets still fielded a number of AMs despite it all, so I do agree with the anon that it's strange they're seemingly nowhere to be found, though my personal theory is sold to African, Middle Eastern etc countries.
The KTDs probably went to T-62s, the modernized T-55s or at least those packages were likely sold to third world countries.
Only Naval Infantry really upgraded their T-55s en-masse, the Soviets already had plenty of T-62s, T-64s and T-72s rolling out to bother upgrading their T-55s. As others said it was mostly for Warsaw Pact Allies who didn't adopt the T-62 and needed to bridge the gap from T-55 to T-72.
Soviet Union is a lost civilization compared to Russia. They have never won any wars without kokhols
It took a year to melt down the soviet unions tank storage.
NLAW/Javelin = GOAT
You were mocking the Frogs for sending AMX-10 RCs. Now you may be able to see those wheely guns running around blasting T-55s.
Tank is a tank.
Imagine the irony one of these base T-55 killed by M-55S-kun 🙂
(or Leo1-kun)
>7 dead hohols for every dead vatnik
>7 dead vatBlack folk for every dead ukie
FTFY
>Russians officially have unupgraded T-54/55’s at the front.
And the ukies still cant stop them even with Javelins, NLAWs, M777s, HIMARS, M270s, M109s, Bradleys, the list goes on and on....
Oh, and all with the most up to date western intelligence.
If Russia is Somalia tier, then that makes Ukraine and the West what? Bangladesh Tier?
>If Russia is Somalia tier, then that makes Ukraine and the West what? Bangladesh Tier?
>somalia gdp: 7.6 billion 400 usd per capita
>bangladesh gdp: 416 billion and 2400 usd per capita
yeah that checks out
Always surprises me how big Bangladesh is. Wonder when they'll become relevant on the world stage
what the frick
Bangladesh Superpower 2030
>unironically better then what russia is deploying in 2023
I thought this was common knowledge? Bangladesh is where all the slave workers for the big clothing chains make the actual clothes
>clothesmaxxed economy
>dripmaxxed troops
>Shiny helmets
Why do militaries do this? Why don't they have their helmets scrimmed and foliaged at all times? It looks better and it's good practice.
HOW DO THEY DO IT
>Bottom left
Holy shit, there's some cuties in there! I didn't think pajeetas could be cuties.
Friendship ended with India! BANGLADESH is my new best friend!
So tell me,....WTF does GDP mean in a war economy?
Russia can steadily supply 20k+ shells for it's artillery guns EACH DAY without crushing it's economy.
The entire west CAN'T supply more than 3k artillery shells to Ukraine per day, because they don't have the capacity to build them.
Compare to the combined GDP of the West and Russia...it comes out as what? West 1000 and Russia 2?
And that's still won't do them any good in supplying more ammunition to Ukraine.
Honk, honk, clowns.
>The entire west CAN'T supply more than 3k artillery shells to Ukraine per day, because they don't have the capacity to build them.
What is capitalism?
You certain all the lathes in all the industries in the West can not retool to make something as basic as an artillery shell? Why not?
Just like the West cannot cut Russia off from SWIFT? Or apply more sanctions? Or stop using Russian gas? You were saying all that a year ago, right? Probably with that same clown picture. I gotta wonder, who's the real clown in this situation?
>Russia can steadily supply 20k+ shells for it's artillery guns EACH DAY
You know damn well that this is not true. It might have been true year ago, might have, but it's absolutely wrong now.
Threadly reminder that literal clowns get more training than Russian soldiers.
OK. So what's the next step?
T-10?
IS-3?
T-44?
T-18
He cute.
T-10 and PT-76
I doubt that they would have any of those in any quantity that is enough for anything but parade use. PT-76 is possible as ”hey, it’s a 76mm gun on tracks, enough for infantry support”, but beyond that, it’s the end of line, the bottom of the barrel regarding old stock tanks.
ISIS-tier technicals
Arguably an improvement, if used with proper doctrine
We both know they won't be though
>OK. So what's the next step?
This is it, anon, T-55 is quite literally last thing they have in viable numbers in storage, everything from WW2 is in museums or was scrapped by Stalin
nothing wrong with a bit of second line equipment
Will Zoka ever post feet pics?
But why? I thought they have unlimited T-62s in stock
Just like their unlimited friendship with China.
WHAT T-55 DOIN
T-10M kino in coming soon
It’s not a cope to say that in Ukraine having a T-72 vs a T-62 hardly makes a difference. It’s not as if you could see anything with T-72 night optics anyway. A Javelin will kill both just as easily. Ukraine’s T-72s are barely being used, and Russians also hardly use tanks. Both of them just park them someplace and wait for chances to poke them out and take some shots. Neither side can do maneuver warfare so tank performance makes no difference.
>A TANK IS A TANK AND TANK IS FINE
we are talking t-54 without rangefinders. yu know a rangefinder would be really good for poking out and firing
Is concept we took from infantry tovaritsch, suppressive fire tanks, just like pkm in rifle squad, no need for fancy aiming
Yeah, it was about four or so months last time, this time its only been a month. Same with the btr-50s.
it is just me, or time between "they'll just be used in rear echelons/they'll be used in training" cope and appearing on front was significantly shorter than with t62?
i would like to add that the specific parade T-34's the russians operate were build after the T-54/55.
there is an above zero chance that the russians are operating tanks older then their parade t-34's
Thank God. Maybe we'll finally get to see some brrt after all. Honestly with how shitty the top armor on t-72's is I think it might work on those too.
That's both funny and sad but isn't Ukraine also using T-55's? Yes it is.
Lol no. Ukraine doesn't have any to use.
Learn
We're gonna see that in the field
>We're gonna see that in the field
Only if Luka throws his hat into the ring. Those T-55s are for TDF units, not the regular brigades.
>Those T-55s are for TDF units
what's the tactical advantage of making baseless comments?
what's the tactical advantage of being a homosexual?
Ukraine also doesn't have the 5th largest military expenditure in the world, nor is it the country that started the invasion
You gotta understand, we aren't pro-Ukraine because we love Ukraine so much and admire their warmaking capabilities. We're anti-Russia because they're subhumans and it's hilarious to see them flail around
The ukie T-55’s are heavily upgraded with 105mm guns, actual modern FCS and ERA packages. It’s like comparing the T-72 Ural to a T-72B3 obr 2016.
I see a lot of people saying
>Oh, but isn't Ukraine actually weak and poor too?
Yeah
That's what makes it so funny
If Ukraine was actually hypercompetent and stupidly rich, it wouldn't be so embarrassing
>That's both funny and sad but isn't Ukraine also using T-55's? Yes it is.
Vatniks jelly over how drip the M55S is.
Vatniggs wish they could have those beautiful M55S.
I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know about them before they were donated because now I think they're the most aesthetic tanks in existence, they look like something futuristic nazis would develop.
The M55S looks like something the humans would have used in the opening scene of Terminator 2
>A Plasma modified Dshk rapid fire pewing at airborne hunter killers, while the main gun dumps HEAT into foot mobile terminators
Muh dick
How did Cameron get it so right with those films? No AI enemy in fiction has managed to be as menacing as Skynet was in those first 2 films. And you don't even see it, or hear it, nothing. Stephen King or whoever said don't show the monster was right.
Yeah, but it never called itself a military rival to USA who was hyped up to be able to conquer Europe within weeks
That last part is why Russia is laughed at
After the t55/t54's are gone, do you anons think they'll get tanks from China or North Korea first? I'm hoping the best Koreans gift them some and get some crazy tech or large sum of money for them kek
What tech does Russia even have to offer, at this point?
They already got late soviet thermals from Iran iirc, plus their own nukes, ballistic missiles, and their tanks are probably more advanced than the Russians.
Jet engines, maybe?
True. Maybe body armor technology or night vision? Since I think best korea is still behind in that iirc. Or Russian giving them Kaliningrad would be absolutely hilarious. I can only imagine the sheer butthurt and political out cry.
They offered it to the Germoids back then and even they didn't want that blood sucker and AIDS riddled hell hole.
hey frick off, my Slava lgf and Anna teen gf live in Kaliningrad so it's based
Guys guys guys
That's a big tank
>healer and tank
>no dps
ngmi
Did you know that it’s not illegal to promote the idea that Ukrainian government officials should be bombed in their own offices, because Ukrainian politicians don’t have the best interests of the Ukrainian people in mind?
It’s not a crime to suggest that a coup is necessary and Zelensky should be executed with a firing squad.
You can do this as much as you want and nothing is going to happen to you because it’s not a dangerous illegal rhetoric.
>Something bad about Russia is posted
>shill tries to derail the thread with schizo /misc/tard bullshit
Like clockwork
But nobody is derailing a thread.
Also what about Ukrainian shills on /k/