Russia claims 2 drone attacks on Kremlin
Ukraine actions or Russian false flag?
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Russia claims 2 drone attacks on Kremlin
Ukraine actions or Russian false flag?
could also be internal dissent
too early to tell
Could it also be a false-flag by the Russian gov. to provide an excuse for declaring war? That way they could mobilize more men more quickly (although, they would still have trouble providing said men with training and gear).
Putin is too much of a pussy, the KGB man lacks spine for direct confrontation against anything else but unarmed civilians
Smoking pigeon. Very common in Russia. Tragic. Tobacco is a hell of a drug.
Holy shit...he did it...
THE ABSOLUTE MAD BIRD
Columbine-sama, I kneel
>Didn't you hear, Putin?
>BIRD BIRD BIRD
>BIRD IS THE WORD
Oh god, I laughed. Well played.
If true, they're so shit scared they see Baba Yaga behind every curtain
Russian police shot all the other pigeons because "you can't be too careful" in times like this.
Sorry comrades was me, I work at Kremlin. Just farded is all *~~*~~ was little accident
My guess is Ukrainian organized small drone launch from within Russian territory. Intent to destroy the flag near the parade grounds. A clear sign that they could, if they wanted to, target Putin and other high military members a week from now when the real Victory Parade takes place. You can even see the parade stuff already there at the bottom of the screen.
Drone missed the flag by a bit. Message still through.
I don't think most Russians are ever going to see this. It still burned the dome, THOUGH.
The fire rises. Soon it will spread.
I will never get over how aesthetic this image is. Loved it back in the day, love it today. Can't believe it's been this long since the clankening.
Those nearby heard it and rumors like that spread fast
Putin himself is aware of it
I think they want them to cancel may 9th parade in Moscow to hit a blow to putins ego
Parade is already being scaled back to reduce chance of dissent or protest.
I think it's much more likely that this is a false flag, tbh.
False flags usually have an objective, something to be gained from doing them. In this case there's nothing to be gained from getting the Kremlin attacked and losing the narrative. Russia is already preparing their narratives for defeat.
They could spin it to upgrade the Special Operation to all-out war, in internal narrative/legal terms of course. This to force more widespread mobilization for the meatgrinder.
>They could spin it to upgrade the Special Operation to all-out war,
Wouldn't change their reality much, they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel for cannon fodder and weapons. It would also raise tensions in Moscow unnecessarily due to conscrtiption. If it's a false flag it's an exceptionally stupid one.
>If it's a false flag it's an exceptionally stupid one.
This is an exceptionally stupid war they're waging.
>If it's a false flag it's an exceptionally stupid one
well that makes it even more likely, this is Russia we're talking about
why is everything said to be a 'false flag'
give me one fucking example of russia being truthful in order to justify themselves to their sheep horde who accept anything at face value
it's like being embarrassed of being naked in front of your cat.
should have targeted the red star on the tower though. Perfect symbolism to how very dead the dream of resurrecting the dead vatnik union really is
this seems most likely to me, I'm not dismissing the possibility of it being a false flag though
>trying to send the message that they can drone bomb Putin during the parade
>Instead of just waiting for the parade and straight-up doing it
>Now the vatniks are """prepared"""
For what purpose?
To make it all the more humiliating when it happens again, ten times worse
Forcing Russia to waste troops and anti air in Moska far away from the front where it matters.
this is pretty lame , a rc plane exploding on a roof?? nothing
Isn't it your lunch break, Vanya?
In Moscow? On the Kremlin? With no air defence?
imagine if Russian roof-top missile trucks had started firing at this thing. might've destroyed half the city.
Unironically one of the best things Ukraine can do is send a ton of cheap Xiaomi drones over Moscow lmao.
something just seems off on the attack.
You can see 2 men climbing roof during it.
If some bloke can land his Cessna on the red square during the late 80s why wouldn't *random street drunkard XYZ* be able to fly literally anything into the territory of the Kremlin?
HE CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Plot Twist: It was a distraction from bomb planting somewhere else.
the only thing that makes me think it isn't a false flag is that it's so fucking humiliating. this is embarrassing to Putin. could be partisans. anti-Putin faction shit stir-ers.
blowing up an apartment building in Moscow is more FSB false flag territory.
God, I hope it's chechens.
>the only thing that makes me think it isn't a false flag is that it's so fucking humiliating.
that's how they roll though; internationally, they've humiliated themselves daily over the last year in the eyes of pretty much everyone, remain incapable of self reflection or analysis, and are more than happy to double down on ridiculous posturing or straight up lies to justify some doomed half assed policy.
russia is a nation of straight up copers and they don't feel any shame or responsibility for anything ever, least of all their failures, will simply double down on gaslighting and victimhood and dig in deeper - that's what we're seeing here i'm sure.
what comes out of this is anyone's guess; increased mobilization perhaps, more nuke posturing certainly - we'll just have to wait and see.
>Russian false flag?
Not at least from Putin and his circle. Somebody just set the Kremlin roof on fire and proved how the old midget is not in control of the situation anymore.
This actually sounds like a typical Russian thing.
>Create false flag to have the Kremlin attacked
>Set it up so it blows up just short and does no damage
>Russians forget roof is flammable and set roof on fire
That dome is made of copper, though, they had to be using thermite or something.
>implying Putin didn't strip it of copper when prices were high and replaced it with plywood
Putin didn't strip it of copper when prices were high and replaced it with plywood
It actually would be hilariously Russian if at some point someone had replaced the copper with plastic or wood with copper colored spray paint on top.
We'll know if it's true or not when construction crews start slipping off the roof
>false flag to blow up the real flag
Pretty deep ngl
How long ago did this happen, how is it already pitch black in Moscow?
Hopefully God has had enough and turned off the sun for the russians
Russians hate the sun, they are creatures of darkness and gloom.
>Ukrainians are mogging the russians now by droning the Holy Kremlin a few days before their "we saved the world by pretending we werent allied with the Nazis for half of WW2" parade
my sides are in fucking orbit.
if the drone had a loudspeaker blasting "Bakhmutututu still not taken" i would have died from laughter.
Russian chimney sweep taking extra hours kek
I love you, anon
>tfw the fsb tells you to false flag but you didnt get the drone memo
>We get them next time, boys!
It would make more sense as a false flag to announce official war or rally up the disgruntled population, but ukrs already did some counterproductive actions in the past so who knows.
I doubt it. They’ve had plenty of opportunities to declare war yet they haven’t. So clearly, there is some reason why they haven’t.
Reason being they depleted their war supplies and equipment and can't prepare a full mobilization. I mean, come the fuck on, what are we playing at here?
I get the propaganda value, but if you already can get a drone launched inside puccia, then why not target a gunpowder factory, or a plant that produces rocket fuel, or a refinery pumping diesel or avgas to the fronlines. So many better targets
They've also hit other targets in the night
For the Ukrainians, the most practical outcome of this is for Russia to waste more air defense assets guarding Moscow rather than having those assets near the front.
2 guys on the roof, camera pointed right at the roof when the drone hits... i dunno, but false flag perhaps, a way to gain more internal support within russia or legitimize some kind of escalation ? obviously not a serious attempt on putin as stated since he's sitting in some concrete bunker couple of hundred ft down, it might be ukraine trolling a little, but it feels off to me somehow, is more like the usual russian disnfo dogshit...
>Ukraine actions or Russian false flag?
If Ukraine did. They are legitimately the dumbest people NATO/US over-backed. They just gave Russia a 9/11 and justify China getting involved. I doubt Russia smart enough to pull off a false flag on this scale.
>They just gave Russia a 9/11
I'm sure China is hella impressed by a little fire on the roof of a government building. Odds are greater that they percieve Russia as weak and start eyeing some border territories.
> They just gave Russia a 9/11
I fucking wish they killed a few thousand ziggers. For now, the gloves are coming off and the eyebrows are being raised.
>They just gave Russia a 9/11
What is Russia going to do? Invade them?
Russia can only escalate by further mobilisation or nuclear weapons, so if a 2nd round of mobiks are called up assume it's a false flag.
Your mom's tits feel fake.
>day 434 of the special military operation in Mexico
>Mexicans manage to set fire to the White House in an attempt to get to Biden
This is so retarted. If Ukraine is behind this then Russia's air defense is dogshit, if this is a false flag, then it is also dogshit. Both don't look good for Russia
most elaborate russian false flag attack
Notice how it's dark. I was on the internet yesterday until 12 am pst so it was like 11 am Moscow time didn't see any news about it anywhere.
Looks pretty real to me.
That's not even a pun you goddamn wetback. I hate you so much it's unreal.
>word from the top, we need false flag, Igor
>I got you Vasily
AFU wouldn't waste their one chance at a strike on the Kremlin by just sending a message..
Putin wouldn't make a false flag this embarassing. He'd just bomb an apartment building in a moscow slum or a lesser governmental building if he wanted the precedent.
Internal dissenters would likely still be russian nationalists so I doubt they'd send their message by symbolically attacking russia (defacing their flag and main governmental building).
Only likely attacker is partisans acting independently of the AFU.
Now that would truly be newsworthy
Aren't Russian false flags typically about killing as many of their own civilians as humanly possible
that is Putin's style, yes
>Aren't Russian wars typically about killing as many of their own civilians as humanly possible
There. Fixed that for you.
Oh god I'm gonna false floooooooog
Russians just shelled a supermarket in Kherson. 17 dead. 28 wounded
For fuck sake Russia
Vatpigs chimp out against civilians again huh? Is there even a more pathetic country on this earth?
Kill all Russians. Kill thier supporters. Kill all the disgusting fifth columnists and shills.
Fucking rat russhits. I was ambivalent over them even in 2021, but now I have grown to hate them. Hitler was right about them.
You mean the guy who ordered his civilized master race to slaughter millions of innocents and invade other countries?
A broken clock is right twice a day. It was simply a good thing that he was trying to exterminate Russians, but a bad thing that actually civilized ethnicities had to suffer along with the Russhits.
Lol if they would just bomb trenches and front line shit the US would get bored leave Russia to slowly eat Ukraine as it will be staved of ammo and equipment.
>Russia is a state of sub 80 IQ mogs
they really are sub human arent they
>Complaining about war crimes
im a bong
>im a bong
I hate Russians so much it's unreal
>Hol hols attack your capitol with a tiny drone and almost set your flag on fire
>respond by killing a baker's dozen x2 of civilians
ha ha, wow, I wonder how hard Ukraine will fuck them when they steam roll them in that counter offensive
What futile, desperate attempt at damage control. Russians aren't even human.
Bong MSM is leaning to false flag based on my reading of theirs. There isn't much from US they're saying that the government is investigating the claims. After that I don't read foreign.
A false flag operation does not mean literally blowing up a flag.
If Russia was trying to escalate their war to a further level of total war, they would make their staged attack kill a single human being or at the least target an elementary school or something better than a fucking flagpole.
This is a Ukrainian Doolittle Raid. They're poking Moscow to bring the war home to the Russians, deny their ability to feel safe anywhere, and rain on their parade. One of the simplest benefits of this is that Russia has to put a lot of air defense over anything they can't afford to lose, everywhere in the country.
Also like what the Doolittle Raid did Russian will but more resources protecting the capital and other cities instead of on the front.
>Ukraine actions or Russian false flag
Should be pretty easy if we could ID the drone, no? What does Ukraine's drones look like? The one in the video has a similar setup to Orlan or perhaps Orion. Does certainly not look like a consumer drone or Bayraktar
XAXAXA PIGGERS CANNOT OF HIT KREMLIN, IT OF HAVING NEW APS CIWS AA OF DE FENCE
>russian false flag
blaming ukraine for flying a drone through your AD
they flew a drone through russian AD
both make russia look retarded
I suspect the drone might have been launched from inside Russia. Perhaps even without the knowledge of Ukraine govt.
To be clear I mean by anti-Russian partisans, not by Russian govt.
Sure it’s not an argument built by Russia to crush the Kyev's presidential administration building (and his owner)
Rusia monke is not going to like this. Tactical nukes on Kiev are the only option of retaliation.
false flag blame it on Ukraine and cancel gay victory parade
>Ukraine did it
Would be hysterical
>Russia did it
Would be even funnier. Yeah sure lets clown ourselves almost as hard as the cessna incident for a false flag that is so ineffectual in terms of actual, measurable damage that it can justify exactly fuck all
Give me the best copes from /chug/. Was it planned? Never happened? Gesture of goodwill? Actually a Ukrainian Kremlin?
I saw the pathetic explosion in the first video and it was clearly a false-flag but then I saw the later one with a small fire on the dome. Maybe it was a real attack? I think disgruntled Russians is more likely than Ukrainians though given how minor the payload and target.