that's why it's good. This board does a pretty good job of self moderation and shutting down morons. PrepHole troony mods do sitewide bans for anything that isn't a fastfood thread or obvious bait. it's like they want to ruin the website.
PrepHole mods are so bad omg its unreal
Worst on this site by a long shot which sucks because it could be a great board
I got banned for making a thread wondering why vegan restaurants are always so bad even though i make vegan food at home all the time and it tastes fine
Other than being about veganism the thread was made in earnest and had mostly insightful, non trolling discussion and i actually got some good sensible answers to my resonable question... nuked and banned for trolling
The only good vegan restaurant food I've ever had was Asian. And it's entirely because they understand that texture is just as, if not sometimes more important when creating a substitute. It's supposedly because of Buddhism, taking in adult monks who didn't exactly grow up vegan. I wouldn't eat that way all the time, but it's a hell of a lot more appetizing than the standard shit.
those feet don't seem very stable, even if you had 6 inch screws through them that's not much surface area to handle horizontal forces imo (I'm also moronic)
I dug, filled, rebarred, back filled, poured, colored and stamped my own patio. Do all the work and order a concrete truck and have beer ready. Not easy but doable. Today I ran a nice bead of polyurethane around it to stop ants.
My brother in law and I got a six pack of monster energy drinks, two shovels, a bottle of vodka and a half ounce of weed. 12 hours later we were fricked up but staring into a four foot deep, 30 * 10 foot hole filled half way with gravel and some jank as rebar.
The next day we called a cement dude who came by with a wheelbarrow, a truck on order and some stamps. We had it done in about five hours. We started the BBQ, put a few steaks on and stared at our work.
I suppose you personally plant, grow, fell, and then mill your own trees for lumber? You also gather your own iron ore and smelt/smith it into fasteners and tools?
your joists are attached to the rim joist only with two screws through their end (along the grain) That's okay when the rim joist is only there to stabilize the joists because they bear on a beam or something, but in this case its how the joists themselves are entirely supported.
The is about the worst way that you could have attempted to fasten them.
You would have been better off putting a PT beam on grade and then putting the joists over that, or having them attach with hangers, or over a small ledger. Literally anything other than what you did.
Also, what the frick are those little black feet? How do they provide bearing for the rim?
This shit is especially dumb with a deck because if you have a party or something you might wind up with a frickton of people crowded on the deck. This is why they are usually intended to be designed to higher bearing strengths then something like a bedroom floor.
There is nothing about this that was done well in any way, and you should feel bad.
you need joist hangers on all those joists. the 2 spax anchors/lags you have on each side will fail after the first fat guy jumps on your deck. ideally the joists would be sitting on top of beams, but you didn't go with that type of construction.
also that pool is going to weigh 700 lbs when full, and will sink those piddly posts right into the ground.
>the back is already split from the weight.
You're gonna regret screwing into the endgrains, but the deed is done. You probably didn't crown them, or even know what crowning is so look forward to bowing in the middle. You definitely need more blocking in the middle and definitely more footings too...in the middle as well. Whatever the frick those plastic ganerts are, toss em. Put the shit on concrete blocks and secure it, frick what Inspector Clouseau says since we know you're not getting a permit for this trashfire.
Also please....do not fill that pool on the deck when you're done. You will regret it.
Prediction: you are going to put too much weight on this deck (people, pool -god forbid. Don’t put that pool on this deck, etc) and it’s going to collapse those little feet which will in turn cause the brick wall to fall and crush the legs of anyone who fell in its way.
Even if you'd built it properly, the design is poor. Tree needs more space around it. Even if it's fully grown, rot is going to get in there and have no where to go. And because you're decking around it, you won't know until it's ripping your wall in two.
1/10
HOA violation, code violation, will violate you, have fun when it collapses in 4 years under the weight of 80 people and kills your entire family tree, shoulda used a licensed engineered contractor, I can't believe you used 2x10's and not W16x50 HR steel beams, footers should have been 75ft deep, you are gay.
honeslty if your gonna jerry rig somthing, ok you made the top part, but u deff need to bury some post to support that fricking weight, that shit its gona tilt the moment it rains
agreed with the other guy it will fail and kill your faimily in a thermite fire
all joking aside that timber is low pressure surface treated (i presume it is treated at all by the yellow colour) which wont protect it at all from being outside and rained on like a high pressure treatment would.
they literally just spray shit on the surface to protect it against moisture not for actually being wet it just washes off.
Wow the cost of all that timber... in all honesty, your screws are nicely aligned. cuts are square and good. You just don't know what your doing. You waNt four inch posts set in concrete bolted to frame for legs, in the centre too. Slap some joist hangers round the ends, and screw some noggins in the centres to prevent twisting. But you got ambition, thus shit will be 10k finished...
You aren't supporting it properly please look up a span chart for your wood and space and support it properly. Even just throwing concrete blocks under the beams at proper intervals it would be fine but as it is now it will be bad. If you use concrete blocks just paint the wood where it will be in contact or use like a roofing tar as a barrier.
What decking??
Well the framework for the decking to go on
Shouldn't that be pressure treated?
No. No it should not.
Mods dont even care about this place anymore.
The mods never cared.
that's why it's good. This board does a pretty good job of self moderation and shutting down morons. PrepHole troony mods do sitewide bans for anything that isn't a fastfood thread or obvious bait. it's like they want to ruin the website.
I'm on the fence. Yes hands off mods help keep things fresh but imagine a day with no mods or jannies.
PrepHole mods are so bad omg its unreal
Worst on this site by a long shot which sucks because it could be a great board
I got banned for making a thread wondering why vegan restaurants are always so bad even though i make vegan food at home all the time and it tastes fine
Other than being about veganism the thread was made in earnest and had mostly insightful, non trolling discussion and i actually got some good sensible answers to my resonable question... nuked and banned for trolling
The only good vegan restaurant food I've ever had was Asian. And it's entirely because they understand that texture is just as, if not sometimes more important when creating a substitute. It's supposedly because of Buddhism, taking in adult monks who didn't exactly grow up vegan. I wouldn't eat that way all the time, but it's a hell of a lot more appetizing than the standard shit.
Get your ass back to sunday school
those feet don't seem very stable, even if you had 6 inch screws through them that's not much surface area to handle horizontal forces imo (I'm also moronic)
You will get animals living under there. Take the concrete pill anon.
You can't "DIY" Concrete. You need to buy a company. But I suppose you are a fake DIYer.
I dug, filled, rebarred, back filled, poured, colored and stamped my own patio. Do all the work and order a concrete truck and have beer ready. Not easy but doable. Today I ran a nice bead of polyurethane around it to stop ants.
I have literally ZERO idea what you are talking about. But I will drink to it. Cheers!
My brother in law and I got a six pack of monster energy drinks, two shovels, a bottle of vodka and a half ounce of weed. 12 hours later we were fricked up but staring into a four foot deep, 30 * 10 foot hole filled half way with gravel and some jank as rebar.
The next day we called a cement dude who came by with a wheelbarrow, a truck on order and some stamps. We had it done in about five hours. We started the BBQ, put a few steaks on and stared at our work.
>order a concrete truck
Might as well order a couple of beaners alongside to do it all at that point, ngmi
Poor guy i hope someone hosed him off
I suppose you personally plant, grow, fell, and then mill your own trees for lumber? You also gather your own iron ore and smelt/smith it into fasteners and tools?
Anything less would be a "fake DIYer".
your joists are attached to the rim joist only with two screws through their end (along the grain) That's okay when the rim joist is only there to stabilize the joists because they bear on a beam or something, but in this case its how the joists themselves are entirely supported.
The is about the worst way that you could have attempted to fasten them.
You would have been better off putting a PT beam on grade and then putting the joists over that, or having them attach with hangers, or over a small ledger. Literally anything other than what you did.
Also, what the frick are those little black feet? How do they provide bearing for the rim?
This shit is especially dumb with a deck because if you have a party or something you might wind up with a frickton of people crowded on the deck. This is why they are usually intended to be designed to higher bearing strengths then something like a bedroom floor.
There is nothing about this that was done well in any way, and you should feel bad.
have a nice day homosexual
Rule 1 of the internet one does not simply ask PrepHole to roast their decking
Check this homosexual doesn't know what rule 1 is.
NYPA is further up the list.
Sir, I call rule 37 upon you.
you need joist hangers on all those joists. the 2 spax anchors/lags you have on each side will fail after the first fat guy jumps on your deck. ideally the joists would be sitting on top of beams, but you didn't go with that type of construction.
also that pool is going to weigh 700 lbs when full, and will sink those piddly posts right into the ground.
>the back is already split from the weight.
You're gonna regret screwing into the endgrains, but the deed is done. You probably didn't crown them, or even know what crowning is so look forward to bowing in the middle. You definitely need more blocking in the middle and definitely more footings too...in the middle as well. Whatever the frick those plastic ganerts are, toss em. Put the shit on concrete blocks and secure it, frick what Inspector Clouseau says since we know you're not getting a permit for this trashfire.
Also please....do not fill that pool on the deck when you're done. You will regret it.
Prediction: you are going to put too much weight on this deck (people, pool -god forbid. Don’t put that pool on this deck, etc) and it’s going to collapse those little feet which will in turn cause the brick wall to fall and crush the legs of anyone who fell in its way.
Even if you'd built it properly, the design is poor. Tree needs more space around it. Even if it's fully grown, rot is going to get in there and have no where to go. And because you're decking around it, you won't know until it's ripping your wall in two.
have you ever actually seen or worked with concrete?
this is probably the worst deck i've ever seen.
> Roast my decking!
Mission accomplished! Good job anons. Hopefully OP learned something along the way
I've seen better framing by kids building a tree fort.
The tree not being centered in it's framing is triggering my autism. Thanks.
In 10 years the tree will lift that deck off the ground.
>imying that stevie wonder frick job is going to last 10 years
That tree needs removal before it gets absurdly expensive to get rid of. Trees are bad.
I would leave more space around the tree, build a box around it like a large planter box with room to grow, fill it in with woodchips and flowers.
Also you can remove those suckers from the tree, unless you don't want to. It doesn't matter.
There’s nothing wrong with it
needs moar trees homosexual
Are those kitchen cabinet feet?
1/10
HOA violation, code violation, will violate you, have fun when it collapses in 4 years under the weight of 80 people and kills your entire family tree, shoulda used a licensed engineered contractor, I can't believe you used 2x10's and not W16x50 HR steel beams, footers should have been 75ft deep, you are gay.
Did I miss anything?
Why so little clearance to the tree? In 5 years it will grow into the deck and bow it and destroy it.
honeslty if your gonna jerry rig somthing, ok you made the top part, but u deff need to bury some post to support that fricking weight, that shit its gona tilt the moment it rains
agreed with the other guy it will fail and kill your faimily in a thermite fire
Were you high when you built this? Honest question
What the frick
Fill the pool
all joking aside that timber is low pressure surface treated (i presume it is treated at all by the yellow colour) which wont protect it at all from being outside and rained on like a high pressure treatment would.
they literally just spray shit on the surface to protect it against moisture not for actually being wet it just washes off.
Wow the cost of all that timber... in all honesty, your screws are nicely aligned. cuts are square and good. You just don't know what your doing. You waNt four inch posts set in concrete bolted to frame for legs, in the centre too. Slap some joist hangers round the ends, and screw some noggins in the centres to prevent twisting. But you got ambition, thus shit will be 10k finished...
You aren't supporting it properly please look up a span chart for your wood and space and support it properly. Even just throwing concrete blocks under the beams at proper intervals it would be fine but as it is now it will be bad. If you use concrete blocks just paint the wood where it will be in contact or use like a roofing tar as a barrier.
Oh and one more thing, use joist hangers you goofball
OP here YAll are streaight moronic lmfao. Decking works like a charm and can support 8+ people
Actual OP here gonna be working on this again today will show some pics where I’ve taken in your guys suggestions
Actual REAL OP here, disregard that I suck wieners
Surreal OP here. Everything is melting but it's cold.
OP is a faithful. You need:
Joist hangers.
3x cross stirrups
450 centres
H3 treatment for pine
Or just yolo, who gives a frick? what are you going to fall 10cm?