That's because they, like you, are only in it to shitpost. Five foreign sales is really good for a Swedish fighter, and I'm not sure what the frick people expect from a country that lacks the political weight of the US/UK/France/USSR, nor has the "sell to whoever pays" attitude of some of those. Oh wait, they don't expect at all, they're just shouting at each other how it's the best thing ever/absolute dogshit because shouting is all they care about.
>lacks the political weight of the US/UK/France/USSR
Sweden is based but your delusion if you think f-35 winning was a function purely of politics. The f-35 is better than the grippen-e in literary every metric, to say nothing of maintenance and part availability.
Do you realize that is about extending leases of already 2/3 thru their life cycle aircraft by few years and more ex-Swedish AF aircraft if they want to expand their air force. Saab still gets their shekels from spare parts sales, training support and such. Reality, before those original planes were even leased to Czechs, those were already ordered by Swedish AF and were as new unused aircraft surplus to Swedish AF.
I didn't think Thailand could do any major defense procurement more moronic than their tiny carrier, but basing fighter procurement on fly away cost of aircraft might make that tiny carrier that has no airwing and is actually used as royal yacht seem sensible. Then we can guess that third world countries do third world things and will remain third world.
ah yes i see everyone lining up to buy krabs for instance. Maybe this sentiment works for some systems like robot 57 (nlaw) but not for more expensive ones.
and its not like the jets are owned by saab anyway the Swedish airforce needs all the jets for itself .
Hägglunds landed a pretty significant sale on the CV90 mkIV though so it’s not all gloom and doom in the north.
Sadly the age of the indigenous fighter jet is at an end though. It’s simply too expensive to develop your own jets which is why everyone tries to rope in as many partners in the development stage rather than push for sales once the jet is done.
>If the saab is significantly cheaper than a f35 then why not?
Because the extra cost for the F-35 is worth it >the saab is better than anything the russians have
Probably true, but not a high bar
Last I checked Brazil is still buying more of them and they likely be what Mexico selects to replace their F5 fleet. I don't see them going for the F16 or F35.
>You WILL buy the F-35 for $130 million each >You WILL pay $35,000 per flight hour >You WILL use it to drop million dollar bombs on homophobic antisemetic 3rd world countries that oppose Israel >You WILL NOT be allowed to use it in any environment where it will have to use its alleged stealth to evade detection to SAM batteries
Archer was recently tested with the US Army which was suitably impressed. An Army contract would be HUGE for the Swedish MIC…not from a dollars perspective but from the huge advertising win. And if the US takes Archer to war it’s going to show up all over media and the internet. Other countries will automatically put it, and by extension Swedish arms in general, into the short list.
>Slovakia will sign a government-to-government deal to purchase 152 CV90 MkIV tracked infantry fighting vehicles fitted with 35mm cannons by BAE Hägglunds, the country’s ministry of defense has announced.
Ah yes. in total meltdown!
>152 CV90 MkIV tracked infantry fighting vehicles
Anon you need to understand how little money that is.
The sale of 152 AFVs is a big *one time* even that will bring in a few hundred million dollars.
The average oil-producing shithole makes that in just one day.
The days of minor nations having their own profitable arms industries is over.
Weird statement, but I guess this is a troll thread. There are no unprofitable Swedish defence companies, the only way I can imagine that you think so is because you are ignorant about the wide variety of weapons these companies are actually selling.
NLAW, CV90, Archer all going strong
>NLAW
Who’s buying them? I don’t think anyone at the moment
do you seriously think the current users that have sent/are currently sending them to Ukraine won't buy new ones to replenish their stockpiles?
Remember even a few months ago the grippen-e shills were still shilling about this being the greatest aircraft of all time.
It took like 8 countries making orders before they were successfully BTFO
That's because they, like you, are only in it to shitpost. Five foreign sales is really good for a Swedish fighter, and I'm not sure what the frick people expect from a country that lacks the political weight of the US/UK/France/USSR, nor has the "sell to whoever pays" attitude of some of those. Oh wait, they don't expect at all, they're just shouting at each other how it's the best thing ever/absolute dogshit because shouting is all they care about.
>lacks the political weight of the US/UK/France/USSR
Sweden is based but your delusion if you think f-35 winning was a function purely of politics. The f-35 is better than the grippen-e in literary every metric, to say nothing of maintenance and part availability.
>Sweden is based
Yes.
> connect your military logistics to a black box that only Lockheed can open (and that the Pentagon controls)
gee, I hope nothing bad happens...
dont ever fall for the lockheeb trickery
they are the MIC equivalent of the IMF
I can't take you seriously if you don't even know what's the airplane you're talking about called.
Korea sama... I kneel....
Not a fighter jet
>is a jet
>can launch AMRAAMs (soon)
what more do you want?
The K50 can use fricking Fox 3? How can the JF-17 compete?
will give them away for free, please dont buy the f-35
>https://czechia.postsen.com/news/17162/Sweden-will-offer-leased-Gripen-aircraft-to-the-Czech-Republic-free-of-charge-the-ambassador-said.html
The saddest thing is that it'll probably work.
Do you realize that is about extending leases of already 2/3 thru their life cycle aircraft by few years and more ex-Swedish AF aircraft if they want to expand their air force. Saab still gets their shekels from spare parts sales, training support and such. Reality, before those original planes were even leased to Czechs, those were already ordered by Swedish AF and were as new unused aircraft surplus to Swedish AF.
I didn't think Thailand could do any major defense procurement more moronic than their tiny carrier, but basing fighter procurement on fly away cost of aircraft might make that tiny carrier that has no airwing and is actually used as royal yacht seem sensible. Then we can guess that third world countries do third world things and will remain third world.
Why the frick doesn't Sweden send the Gripen to Ukraine?
Because Americans already snatched the Ukrainian pilots and train them on F-15s and F-16s
Should've joined the NATO since a long time ago then
Why the frick would they do that?
Klling vatniks is great advertisement
ah yes i see everyone lining up to buy krabs for instance. Maybe this sentiment works for some systems like robot 57 (nlaw) but not for more expensive ones.
and its not like the jets are owned by saab anyway the Swedish airforce needs all the jets for itself .
Cause we're arming up
Best defense is a good offensive in Ukraine. Every weapon Russia wastes there is one they can't use on Europeans.
It'll be fine.
Burgers bought our new M4 CG just now though
archers soon my meatball friend
It's not like we want your military industry to die and good system is a good system.
Hägglunds landed a pretty significant sale on the CV90 mkIV though so it’s not all gloom and doom in the north.
Sadly the age of the indigenous fighter jet is at an end though. It’s simply too expensive to develop your own jets which is why everyone tries to rope in as many partners in the development stage rather than push for sales once the jet is done.
If the saab is significantly cheaper than a f35 then why not? I suppose. the saab is better than anything the russians have
>If the saab is significantly cheaper than a f35 then why not?
Because the extra cost for the F-35 is worth it
>the saab is better than anything the russians have
Probably true, but not a high bar
is there any evidence the gripen-e is cheaper than a f-35
>captcha
frick off mike
Last I checked Brazil is still buying more of them and they likely be what Mexico selects to replace their F5 fleet. I don't see them going for the F16 or F35.
Meanwhile, Germany has just joined the CAVS program and is going to buy the patria 6x6 😀
https://www.patriagroup.com/newsroom/news/2022/germany-signs-a-statement-of-intent-to-join-cavs-6x6-vehicle-programme
Japan next!
https://www.aviacionline.com/2022/01/f-35-cheaper-than-the-gripen/
USA!!!
Sweden should be grateful that the US is allowing them to export the Gripen.
>You WILL buy the F-35 for $130 million each
>You WILL pay $35,000 per flight hour
>You WILL use it to drop million dollar bombs on homophobic antisemetic 3rd world countries that oppose Israel
>You WILL NOT be allowed to use it in any environment where it will have to use its alleged stealth to evade detection to SAM batteries
>all this misinformation
Hi Sprey how are you
living in 2015
>2015 was 14 years ago
feels bad man
>14 years ago
wut
Archer was recently tested with the US Army which was suitably impressed. An Army contract would be HUGE for the Swedish MIC…not from a dollars perspective but from the huge advertising win. And if the US takes Archer to war it’s going to show up all over media and the internet. Other countries will automatically put it, and by extension Swedish arms in general, into the short list.
until the American division of BAE Systems gives it a new name & starts marketing it as a 'Murican system
If Sweden wants to advertise the archer it should send a couple of units to Ukraine.
>Slovakia will sign a government-to-government deal to purchase 152 CV90 MkIV tracked infantry fighting vehicles fitted with 35mm cannons by BAE Hägglunds, the country’s ministry of defense has announced.
Ah yes. in total meltdown!
>152 CV90 MkIV tracked infantry fighting vehicles
Anon you need to understand how little money that is.
The sale of 152 AFVs is a big *one time* even that will bring in a few hundred million dollars.
The average oil-producing shithole makes that in just one day.
The days of minor nations having their own profitable arms industries is over.
Weird statement, but I guess this is a troll thread. There are no unprofitable Swedish defence companies, the only way I can imagine that you think so is because you are ignorant about the wide variety of weapons these companies are actually selling.
It's Hägglunds biggest CV90-order ever.
Saab makes a whole lot more than fighters.
it went the way of its car counterpart
SAAB is like the only company whos stocks are increasing in value on the Stockholm exchange.