Yeah I tried another grip and preferred the stock one
“Videos of combat”
Of course you’re not going to bring a revolver to a fricking Warzone. Or a pistol. If you’re expecting to need to shoot someone you don’t bring a pistol, you bring a long arm like a rifle or carbine. And with those it still ends the same, hits on target > misses. People die when they are shot. People do not die if they are not shot.
SWAT don’t breach with pistols. They breach with submachine guns and carbines.
Miami Dade. Shooter with mini-14 wastes like 6 agents armed with revolvers and auto loaders.
Bring a rifle to a gunfight.
Actually more and more teams are doing entries with more pistols than long guns. Pistols work fine for a SWAT deployment most of the time. semi-auto pistol caliber carbines are getting popular as well.
This is same model of K6 I got, love it. Just wish Kimber sold the wood grips from the DCR version separately, I haven't seen any other short grips that appeal to me and the longer ones are ugly and a no go for carry
Altamont probably makes them. Contact Kimber and see if they'll sell you a pair if they won't ask them if they are made by Altamont and then contact them.
>rejecting christ like the israelites >also hates the israelites
lol, lmao. lemme guess; your next move is >my kindergarten level of theology says Christians have to love israelites!
Looks like it says it right on the cover. It's just psalms and proverbs so not the whole bible.
It's the entire New Testament + Psalms and Proverbs. It's about the size of my hand and is 633 pages long. Text is fairly small but so long as your eyesight is fine it's easily legible. I have a regular KJV bible for use at home, the pocket bible was given to me by a friend back in high school.
Point taken anon.
It's just the Jesus gays are uber obsessed with their shit. Fixated on their shit to the exclusion of other shit. >I carry it with me at all times >Muh inspiration is strictly external
2 years ago
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>Fixated on their shit to the exclusion of other shit.
You can say the same thing about marvelgays or SW/ST gays. I'd rather be in a foxhole with a religious gay than a marvel gay.
they pass them out at my Uni when the quad god guy shows up and proselytizes at the quad. Sometimes its the entire NT, sometimes its just the gospels and a few other bits. But the text is always tiny and the paper quality is always ass.
It’s just a lower esoteric truth stolen from the Greeks to slave morality bullshit invented by the archduke Paul to subvert the teachings of the Aryan Jesus ratio than the full version.
>how the frick does a pocket bible work anyway?
like the cover says, its just the NT and psalms and proverbs. a real shame, no job, no song of songs, no ecclesiastes. these books are disseminated by Gideons, an evangelical Christian (read: Protestant) group. Protestants tend to have a less-nuanced, more proof-text oriented method of interpretation. i would say it's stupidly and needlessly argumentative, relying on appeals to authority similar to pharisees or talmudics. one of the pillars of protestantism is sola scriptura, which is basically rejecting out of hand the tradition from which they sprang: Catholicism. this means they threw out 2000 years of Catholic philosophers and saints, in favor of their own method (which is ill-defined and often produces bad results). you absolutely *cannot* adequately understand the person of Jesus Christ and his role as messiah without the Old Testament. that said I have a few of those pocket NTs myself, but do prefer the full NIV for pleasure reading as you saw.
The only thing that matters in a gun fight is your ability to put rounds on target. You only need 12 rounds if you couldn’t hit the target with the first 11. Now hitting a target is a lot harder when they’re shooting back but it’s all that matters, a round that misses has done nothing. Some people shoot better with a revolver, some with an auto, some can’t hit shit no matter what gun you give them.
But if you know you’re going to get into a gunfight, don’t bring a pistol, bring a rifle, a shotgun, anything with a stock.
lol post some so we can laugh at you when it's Black folk hosing down a whole street at dey ops. If you watch ASP videos on the regular you would know that fights are short as frick with very low round counts. Keep fantasizing about fighting off a BLM horde at the quick trip though.
>combat
You know we're talking about home invasions and city streets here and not going into fricking combat and chasing down bank robbers, right? I'd rather have a gun that goes boom six times every time instead of a gun that may jam due to adrenaline-induced limp wristing. Though in real life, neither will really matter since the other guy is going to be running 99.9 percent of the time after you fire your first round. >suppression
Yeah, I got my neighbor to set up a machinegun nest in his balcony so we can set up a crossfire killzone in the street in case either of us get robbed.
Of course you’re not going to bring a revolver to a fricking Warzone. Or a pistol. If you’re expecting to need to shoot someone you don’t bring a pistol, you bring a long arm like a rifle or carbine. And with those it still ends the same, hits on target > misses. People die when they are shot. People do not die if they are not shot.
SWAT don’t breach with pistols. They breach with submachine guns and carbines.
Miami Dade. Shooter with mini-14 wastes like 6 agents armed with revolvers and auto loaders.
I would wrap it in friction tape but that's my thing with "working" revolvers. It's only really "sticky" after you first put it on. Handle the gun a bunch the first couple of days after wrapping it, and wash your hands when you can feel the glue on them. Once you have most of the glue out it just feels like textured cloth(because it's cloth tape) yet it will get "sticky" with the heat of your hand. Always wrap from the bottom up. You will have to trim/burn the odd unraveling string every now and then as well. Also the glue could potentially damage/peel off the finish on wood grips.
So gents, what 357 loads do you carry? Personally I use Hornady Critcal defense as I got a bunch of it cheap years ago and it works well out of a 4". Also how do you like your coffee?
>what 357 loads do you carry? Personally I use Hornady Critcal defense
I use Hornady Critical Defense. A gun store near me was closing and I got a pretty good deal, the K6S in the OP image for $750 and 300rds of the HCD rds for 75 CPR (might have been cheaper, i dont remember). This was last year
I've been looking for pictures of a K6S cerakoted black but not finding any. Wonder if its one of those things that cannot be done due to tolerances and timing.
>K6S cerakoted black
Its such a beautiful gun though 🙁
>ammo
140 gr solid monolithic >coffee
black if hot and first thing in the morning but i also like frozen coffee drinks because they're basically caffeinated milkshakes.
>>.38 +P 120 GR JHP because 2" barrel
and thick
I just use wadcutters out of my 2"
How do wadcutters perform compared to the .38 +P? It's been a while since I looked into it for carry, honestly. I know most people don't even think about the difference out of a 2", so is there something about wadcutters I missed there that makes that solid?
>bullets at typical self defense handgun velocities must physically touch tissue to damage it as there are no remote wounding effects caused by the temporary cavity exceeding the elasticity of human flesh at these velocities >in order to successfully incapacitate a threat via physical damage vital structures must be damaged >only rounds with adequate penetration can reach these vital structures >shot placement and penetration are the only factors that determine the effectiveness of any given round to cause physical damage to vital structures >the only downside to maximizing penetration with bullet selection is over-penetration >if you don't care about overpenetration there is no reason to ever use hollowpoints because they limit penetration in exchange for an increase in surface area which is only a theoretically worthwhile exchange if you know for a FACT that expansion will not limit your penetration to unacceptable levels >round nose bullets are inferior to bullets with square shoulders and flat meplats in their ability to cut tissue >assuming two rounds have equally adequate penetration the better round of the two will be the one you can shoot faster while maintaining accuracy.
Hits count. First hits count most. Carry whatever gun/caliber combo you can make fast accurate hits with. Everything else is marketing bullshit designed to have you paying for overpriced meme ammunition.
>How do wadcutters perform compared to the .38 +P?
A wadcutter is a bullet type
+P refers to the amount of power in the case.
The two have nothing to do with each other, you could have normal wadcutters, +P wadcutters, etc.
That said, most wadcutter loads are meant for target shooting and are relatively weak, much weaker than the average +P load would be.
I've been looking for pictures of a K6S cerakoted black but not finding any. Wonder if its one of those things that cannot be done due to tolerances and timing.
Does anyone have recommendations for either a 7 or 8 shot .357 at either 4" or 5"?
I'd like to carry it on my shoulder and hoping for something with either ported or comped barrels for faster follow up shots.
I've found that if you want the performance of comped/lower recoil they look uglier than shit (TRR8, etc.). Perfect option would be a lower (relatively speaking) recoil, 8-shot, 4.25" Python, but I can't find anything like that.
7 shot 586L, 3 inch with compensator but my honest review is that the sights are absolute dog shit (rear sight too narrow, front sight too wide) and I’m looking to get a Holosun EPS carry to put on it.
Thank you this is definitely up my alley. How bad is the recoil impulse for follow up shots? I live on the border of the bad side of town so that's my biggest concern.
Absolutely terrible since the shitty stock alamont grips did not fit right and cut into my thumb tearing off skin. With some shitty Amazon pachmyrs Velcro strapped on, full rubber backstrap, very manageable and I am now the menace of indoor ranges. and I can get a better grip with them. The grip screw doesn’t even work on them and they don’t even fit, I had to cut away material on the inside. I would buy hogue but they don’t have any compact sized rubber grips that have a full backstrap. Another anon I know of who has one went the VZ grips route.
My problem with the sights are
1. Tritium tube might as well not even be there, they must have burned out before they even put them in
2. Rear sight seems to be a standard size meant for 4-6 inch barrels and have a target notch (very little side to side gap). The notch is also very narrow
With it being a 3 inch barrel the front sight is pretty wide for the notch. Too wide. And they’re both black. The sights are just disappointing to use compared to my .44 Model 69 which have a orange front and white U outline rear. Replacing either the front or rear is not a easy task, unless you buy a complete new rear assembly. Which won’t match the front.
Even then I’m fairly confident of hitting man sized targets with magnum loads at 10 yards.
I’ve seen some very good prices on GP-100s and classic S&W 586s, 66s, and others on gunbroker.
2 years ago
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I'm still holding out for a decently priced 65 or 66, the markups are brutal
2 years ago
Anonymous
See
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For instance, this fine purveyor of boomer blasters has take a shot enabled (you can make a offer on them), and lowers the price every time the listing expires.
I’ve seen some very good prices on GP-100s and classic S&W 586s, 66s, and others on gunbroker.
For instance, this fine purveyor of boomer blasters has take a shot enabled (you can make a offer on them), and lowers the price every time the listing expires.
I have them painted white but the problem is the rear sight, and I don’t want to drop 120 dollars on a replacement rear that still won’t match the front (which will be another X expenditure).
I saw this guy’s set up and I’m about to copy it, except it’s a 19 and mines the 586.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can't you buy replacement sight blades with different widths? I'm pretty sure that's a thing.
2 years ago
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There is not a big selection, there’s only like one shop that makes a “drop in” blade but the installation for any new blade involves breaking the current screw off and some dremeling. Several shops do combat style fixed rears which have the slight picture I want, but it seems like something I’d have to send in my gun for for it to be installed right.
I want to go cyberpunk anyway, this was supposed to be my carry gun but I found a 92 LTT compact for a good price (same price as this revolver but with 13 extra mags, amazing DA pull, the perfect combat sights) so this thing is just an adult fidget spinner right now.
2 years ago
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>Someone saved my picture.
I remember you. Godspeed.
I agree with the caveat that the trigger on the redhawk will be worse out of the box than a smith. it breaks in well after about 1000 rounds or you can polish it your self. but despite this the redhawk has better lockwork than the smith.
>despite this the redhawk has better lockwork than the smith.
lolno. You can tune a ruger action very nice with shims and polishing but it the potential of the S&W action with the same amount of work(but you won't need shims) is higher. There's no getting around the tolerance slop of a cast frame.
are revolvers obsolete for gunfights now? I'm not talking about self defense against someone unarmed or with a knife. I mean someone with a 9mm and a 12 round mag.
If it has less than 7 rounds of cylinder capacity then I would say yes, they're obsolete for gunfights. Plus if you're not carrying at least a couple of spare speedloaders or moonclips, you might as well just turn the gun on you and pull the trigger.
The only thing that matters in a gun fight is your ability to put rounds on target. You only need 12 rounds if you couldn’t hit the target with the first 11. Now hitting a target is a lot harder when they’re shooting back but it’s all that matters, a round that misses has done nothing. Some people shoot better with a revolver, some with an auto, some can’t hit shit no matter what gun you give them.
But if you know you’re going to get into a gunfight, don’t bring a pistol, bring a rifle, a shotgun, anything with a stock.
You're not going to get into a "gunfight" you might have to dissuade some joggers from diversifying you at the gas station
Six rounds is plenty, St. Kyle of Kenosha only needed 5
It's fine to think about hypotheticals but you don't have to build your carry system around that super low percentage shit ever happening. Many do though so feel free if that's what cranks your tractor.
only if you're an immasculated homosexuals who doesn't spend their days sitting it darkend run down offices sipping straight whisky and chain smoking cigarettes as the next femme fatale pleads her fake sob story as she tries to play you for a sucker and get you to do all her dirty work for her. just like the last dame who walked through that door one hot los angeles day, as the sun beat down on all the other poor rubes just trying to make a living. and i don't know if it's that same sun or the girl that's making this office hotter than hell right now as i sit here listening to her repeating practised lines with blinds across the windows and a pain behind the eyes.
You can have ports cut on any gun by a custom shop. How new are you to guns? I'm getting "noob who thinks he needs more than he does" vibes off your questions. Practice will help you tame recoil not ports. Also .357 is fricking stupid. .38 is plenty of power and doesn't suck to shoot.
>clean, modern lines >simple, uncluttered shapes
The K6 looks like the only revolver that isn't in love with 1950s aesthetics or edgelord greeble shit. Wish more looked like that.
>edgelord greeble shit
this annoys me to no end. and they are all doing it. these newer guns make the glock look stylish. absolutely no aesthetic considerations at all. just angles, stippling patterns and slide serrations on every part of the slide.
>build company to reclaim your family reputation for making the best revolvers you can buy >company is run into the ground because revolvers are dead as frick >bought by Czechs and now all you make are 1911s for boomers
A sad tale.
Hoping to pick up this tomorrow, very excited. Ive had a 1970s nickel model 27, and still have a 1960s colt trooper, but i want something absurdly big again but with higher capacity and not have to worry about it breaking.
It's just so far from my experience with them I have a hard time taking it seriously. I have two 856s and they are the breasts. I've never seen anyone who owns one here posting pics who complains about it. Do you have any specific complaints?
Cool. I have two Honda Civics. Great cars! Trust me, it's just like driving a Corvette.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ok so you're not serious you're just trolling. Thanks for clearing that up.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually I'm not. If you're happy with them, great. But I also wasn't shitting on your favorite toys just because they aren't as smooth as a gun that's more than twice the price and THATS why I think you're a dumb Black person.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've handled/shot a K6S and I don't think it was that much of a step up action-wise. It was lighter than my 3" 856 but I'd say it was about equal with my 2" 856. I think because you spent twice as much you have some bias towards it.
I keep waiting for someone to do something interesting with a new revolver but it keeps not happening.
2 years ago
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I wish I could let you feel the action on pic related. I put in work and it's a fricking super star. That's the worst thing about new revolvers with MiM parts. You just can't do the same level of action work.
2 years ago
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>Bias
Projection. I'm surprised you haven't posted your chart yet.
2 years ago
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It's not "my" chart some other anon made it when he was in the market for a 3" medium frame. And you shouldn't hate on the chart it's just data it doesn't tell you how to feel about it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Damn, I should have said I'm surprised you aren't sucking my wiener yet.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't sound like a happy person anon. You wanna get anything off your chest?
2 years ago
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I dont get it , I have a Rhino and shoot it just fine, Just dont put your thumb anywhere near the cylinder. Its a fun gun , kinda pricy , but fun to shoot
I need a full size revolver, but I can't decide between .357 and .44. I have a smaller .357 revolver and can handle it out of full size guns, but I've never shot .44 before.
If you reload, .44. If you don't, .357. You can shoot Skeeter or Keith level specials and they are quite effective yet have significantly less recoil than magnums.
I've always wanted a webley revolver, but I've never owned a C&R before. Is there anything I would need to know about owning a hundred year old or more gun? If I get one in .455 (which is what I want) then I'd obviously have to hand load ammo, right?
Honestly, I'd be happy with any auto-ejecting top loader. I might try and find a schofield reproduction one of these days. Uberti makes one, right? Any other options?
I really don't like the S&W lock, I know they fixed the early issues but geesh. My friend bought a performance center 340 and it actually locked up at the range. Had to send it back to S&W with ammo still in it. It's always a "friend" story but I was there.
From my understanding, 99.9% of the time the issue on the lock seems to be the airlite series and magnum loads. No other revolver seems to have that issue anymore. I imagine the extreme light weight and heavy recoil is just enough to potentially trigger it.
>seems to be the airlite series and magnum loads.
Clarification question: Do you mean that it seems to be the airlite series using magnum loads, or do you mean that the airlite series has a problem and using magnum loads is another problem? I'm in the market for either a .357 or .44 S&W right now.
The idea is that the lock can engage itself under recoil, air lights and magnums is probably the most recoil a revolver can be under. However it’s been reported on K, L, N frames as well. You can just remove the lock. It takes like 30 minutes and gets you intimate with your revolver, there’s aftermarket plugs to fill the hole from the lock.
Then you have that whole Harrel take of "don't modify self defense firearms" but then you end up not leaving your 'locked' S&W revolvers in grab spots around the house and don't carry it. Then if you remove the lock you are in the same position, it just become a range toy only.
>Then you have that whole Harrel take of "don't modify self defense firearms"
Which is a shit take. Has there ever been a conviction in an otherwise legit DGU due to a weapon modification(non-NFA)?
>but the prosecutor is gunna...
lie, obfuscate and do shady shit regardless of what you did or didn't do to your gun. If you think doing something to your gun improves your chances of surviving a DGU then do it.
Harrell is a paranoid boomer who does have a point but firearm modification is such a common thing these days it literally will not fly in court. The prosecutor can try but it only tells the Jury he’s literally scraping the bottom of the barrel. Rittenhouse’s prosecutor tried to use the rounds being “FMJ” to penetrate as many targets as possible and tried to use how Rittenhouse played Call of Duty. The prosecutor can try but it won’t work.
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Then you have that whole Harrel take of "don't modify self defense firearms" but then you end up not leaving your 'locked' S&W revolvers in grab spots around the house and don't carry it. Then if you remove the lock you are in the same position, it just become a range toy only.
What's the phrase? "A good lawyer could get satan out of hell," or something like that? Now granted, there are some things you shouldn't do like paint "I hate Black folk" on the side of your carry gun, but you really shouldn't be concerned with prosecution arguments aside from serious fringe examples.
Let's just say you're carrying a standard glock in 9mm. The prosecution can say "This guy is using the same gun the police use! He's clearly trying to take the law into his own hands." Carry a revolver instead and you're dirty harry or larping as a cowboy. Look at the size of that giant .38 special round compared to a 9mm! Hollow points are evil, fmj is military spec. Modify it and the prosecution can call you bloodthirsty. Don't modify it and they'll say that you have no idea what you're doing and no idea how deadly guns are. It's also important to take into account how few self defense shootings go to court at all.
I meant that the airlight series using magnum loads seems to be the overwhelming number of cases of the lock flicking on. I have not heard of many cases of their heavier pistols having the issue. It seems exclusively a high recoil problem aggravated by the extreme lightness of the airlite series relative to the caliber they shoot. For instance, the somewhat comparable J-frame 642 doesn't seem to have the issue very much, perhaps due to the lower recoiling .38.
I personally don't see it as a critical issue, but some people are paranoid about it. I think it'd be more likely that someone fricks up my calipers when I get those changed on my car. But to each their own. S&W has some revolvers still sold that don't have them anymore so that may be an option for you.
>S&W has some revolvers still sold that don't have them anymore
Only J-frames. The locks are dumb. The locks cost S&W sales. They KNOW everyone hates them. They don't even show that side of their revolvers on the website. Frick those buttholes I will never buy a smith with a lock.
Well, J frame IS their top seller by a country mile. I imagine theres not many people who would truly buy one who is stopped by the lock. If there was, they wouldnt do it. But i dont think revolvers matter to S&W in terms of sales outside the 642, which is their #1 seller by a mile
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would've thought that one of their M&P semi-auto pistols would overtake the 642 at this point.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah that guy is fricking high. There's no way they sell more 642 than M&P shields.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would've thought that one of their M&P semi-auto pistols would overtake the 642 at this point.
Yeah, guy's delusional. I live in MA (Unfortunately, but it's where S&W is based if you didn't know.) Here's what's available at my closest store. Now you could make up some story about "Well, they have more M&Ps which means they're not selling!" but the fact is that I could go to literally any gun store in the state and ask for a new M&P and they will have it. It'll be a total gamble on whether or not they even stock new revolvers regularly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's pretty close to my LGS as well. The only revolvers they had the last time I checked were a J-Frame or two and a GP100, but plenty of M&Ps along with the usual Sig and Glock shelves.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, M&Ps are basically THE gun now. It was glocks like ten years ago, but S&W pretty quickly and easily took over the polymer frame, striker fired pistol market. Seems like Glocks won out because there wasn't a serious competitor before and police surplus gave them an edge in price. Glock needs to actually compete now instead of just exist.
I'm a revolvergay through and through, but the simple fact of the matter is that they're a niche/hipster choice. For a pocket gun, you're still usually getting an extra round or two and the benefit of easier reloads when talking about a pistol. For a full size gun, pistols carry three or four times the ammo and are STILL smaller and beat reload speed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Naw, Glocks are still king, but they have definitely taken a backseat to all the choices that exist today. M&P is probably 2nd/tied with sig.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The P365 was the killing blow for CCW revolvers.
>shorter overall length than a j-frame >weighs less than most j-frames, barring the scandium models >much better trigger than a da revolver >holds 10 rounds compared to a j-frame's 5 or 6 shots
2 years ago
Anonymous
and yet hundreds of thousands of pocket revolvers are sold each and every year.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Anyone who is carrying a DA is doing so because they like DA triggers. I'd rather have a heavy trigger on a carry gun. Plus the extra capacity means more weight, the P365 is about 23 ounces loaded.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah that guy is fricking high. There's no way they sell more 642 than M&P shields.
Takes about 10 mins to remove the lock internals. You can also leave the external part of the lock inside the hole in the frame. Done it to a few so far
Hey guys, it looks like my S&W M1917 is piercing primers when firing in single action. When I fire in DA I sometimes get light strikes too. Out of the 100 rounds of S&B .45 I fired today, it looks like 4 of these were pierced. Has anyone dealt with this before?
Without being able to inspect the gun my first suspicion would be the ammo quality. Have you tested other types of ammo? DA does hit slightly softer than SA but to go from light strikes to pierced primers just from that variance is a breddy big shift. What does the firing pin look like? Have you measured the protuberance of the firing pin through the frame?
The other day I fired 50 rounds of magtech, and had two light strikes, but that was it. I'll look into it more and will post my findings. Thanks, anon.
Have you taken it apart and inspected/lubed it? Let's say for argument sake that the pierced primers was ammo related but the light strikes aren't. It might be as simple as a filthy/dry internal mechanism slowing your hammer just enough.
Oh and make sure the hammer spring tension screw is screwed all the way in. gays love to back that shit out to make the trigger lighter rather than, I dunno, git gud?
I got mine for about 200 less. Sounds like a bad deal unless it mint (or maybe I just got a steal and have no clue on the actual regular values of these things)
I want to get into big bore revolvers at some point. I'm split between .45 Colt and .44 Magnum. I want to use it as a range toy to shoot big bullets. .45 ACP gave me a thing for .45 caliber bullets, but .44 Magnum doesn't require Ruger-only loads to reach true magnum territory. I figure I could download .44 Magnum to bunny fart levels for easy shooting if I wanted too.
I plan on getting into reloading as well, so ammo availability is not a problem.
.45 colt if you want to be a cowboy. .44 magnum if you want to be an 80s PI.
.45lc is generally loaded lighter and is """weaker""" than .44 in most factory loads, but if you're talking about handloading and using modern guns, you can load them both pretty identically. The choice is basically down to aesthetics if you're planning on loading your own ammo.
If I were you and did all the things you plan on doing, like reloading, I would put my faith in 44 magnum. I don't have any facts about .45 LC ballistics but I have shot .44 magnum and it's an absolute beast. Plus instead of larping for a self defense shooting you can larp a bear defense scenario
>There is a 99.9 chance the revolver will only be fired for target shooting
and?
Is abyss-deep concealed pocket carry worth losing the external hammer? The hammer is one of the core pieces of revolver aesthetics to me.
Thingken bout buyin a spurless hammer model SP101 in .357 for a late fathers day gift, plans to carry it I think since he never has before our constitutional carry laws
See if they have a Taurus 856 you can check out when you go to the LGS. Small .357s are dumb, it has one more round than the SP101 and it's half the cost.
Small .357s do seem kind of dumb, and I kind of fear he'll hate shooting .357 out of something that small, but we went to a LGS and that's what he seemed to like. Guess he can always shoot .38 out of it, it'd be cheaper anyway. Might have to mention the extra round out of the 856 though
Stupid drunk question: are there any diy revolver kits? I've seen the percussion cap shit but is there a market for modern frames that you can build yerself?
Is an older colt detective special a bad choice for CC? I mean it functions OK but I don't know how comfortable I am with a 60 year old revolver that nobody works on anymore as my carry piece.
ALSO ANY AND ALL ITALIAN ANONS
IF YOU CAN LOCATE ANY SHOPS OR OWNERS OF MATEBA 6 UNICAS OR 2006M REVOLVERS I WILL IMPORT THEM.
I HAVE CASH MONEY IN HAND AND WILL PAY TO HAVE MULTIPLE IMPORTED.
LOCATING THEM IS THE HARDEST PART AND I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE.
>What's a good steel frame .22lr revolver for under $500?
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No but seriously the only choice under $500 is the Taurus 942 and they sell out so fast when a new boat arrives from Brasil that you will end up paying way over msrp if you can even find one.
If you can perform a proper inspection before you do any paperwork then yes they are good especially for the money. Remember it's probably steel(although they do make aluminum versions) and it has one more shot so it's slightly larger than a J-frame and being steel will be heavier so if you're going for pocket carry it might be a tiny bit too large/heavy depending on your pockets so the J-frame still might be the better choice.
Thanks. That's a lot of stuff to check for, so I appreciate the resource.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You can skip launching a pencil out the barrel lol.
Just check the timing on each cylinder and check that each chamber is properly aligned with the bore and that the hammer(if it has one) doesn't "push off" of full wiener and you should be good. Make sure with any new revolver you lube it when you get it. If you're too pussy to take the sideplate off you can shoot some lube in the hammer and trigger slots and work the action a few times. Here's how you take the cylinder apart to clean the cylinder pin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6lQprzO1nw
remember any friction on the cylinder pin increases the friction of the entire system. Don't lube to cylinder pin as it will only attract crud. If you MUST lube it go very lightly. God speed anon.
I want to get a Smith Model 19 Classic in 357 Mag for a first gun. This is pretty moronic right? It's gonna be mostly target shooting at the range and a not so concealed carrying when hiking.
>This is pretty moronic right?
Not at all. An entire generation of men learned to shoot on S&W .357s loaded with .38spl.
You'll be fine, just learn the fundamentals and don't jump straight to .357 immediately. .38spl is still fairly easy to find online. It's expensive, but revolvers in general haven't been a cheap date since the 1970s.
>bullets at typical self defense handgun velocities must physically touch tissue to damage it as there are no remote wounding effects caused by the temporary cavity exceeding the elasticity of human flesh at these velocities >in order to successfully incapacitate a threat via physical damage vital structures must be damaged >only rounds with adequate penetration can reach these vital structures >shot placement and penetration are the only factors that determine the effectiveness of any given round to cause physical damage to vital structures >the only downside to maximizing penetration with bullet selection is over-penetration >if you don't care about overpenetration there is no reason to ever use hollowpoints because they limit penetration in exchange for an increase in surface area which is only a theoretically worthwhile exchange if you know for a FACT that expansion will not limit your penetration to unacceptable levels >round nose bullets are inferior to bullets with square shoulders and flat meplats in their ability to cut tissue >assuming two rounds have equally adequate penetration the better round of the two will be the one you can shoot faster while maintaining accuracy.
Hits count. First hits count most. Carry whatever gun/caliber combo you can make fast accurate hits with. Everything else is marketing bullshit designed to have you paying for overpriced meme ammunition.
>waits until a major thread archives
>waah no one talks about revolvers !!
B a s e d.
One Revolver to rule them all.
>$3600
post arms, revolvers are for women or onions boys that refuse to learn a pistol
Re-using picture from handgun general. New production SW jframe and a 1970s model 66. Two of my favorite guns. J frame is very comfy carry piece.
Do you actually like those pachmyr grips on the 66 or is that just what they came with?
Came with it but I like them. Pretty comfy. Handles .357 really well. Used to have a new production King Cobra and it wasnt as suited to magnum rounds
New Pachmyr grips are nothing like the old ones. New ones are pieces of garbage coasting off the name while the old ones were actually good.
>J frame is very comfy carry piece.
agreed, plus the stock trigger, grip, and sight are actually great once you get used to them
Yeah I tried another grip and preferred the stock one
Actually more and more teams are doing entries with more pistols than long guns. Pistols work fine for a SWAT deployment most of the time. semi-auto pistol caliber carbines are getting popular as well.
>J frame is very comfy carry piece
Love the feel of a DAO in my back pocket.
This is same model of K6 I got, love it. Just wish Kimber sold the wood grips from the DCR version separately, I haven't seen any other short grips that appeal to me and the longer ones are ugly and a no go for carry
Altamont probably makes them. Contact Kimber and see if they'll sell you a pair if they won't ask them if they are made by Altamont and then contact them.
I want to get one, but the shitty reputation of Kimber 1911's kind of makes me hold my purchase.
went hiking today.
what tomahawk is that?
Beautiful
Just imagine how big of a loser you have to be to only leave the house to take a picture of your toys
>Just imagine how big of a loser you have to be to worry about who is a loser and why
Pocket gun + pocket bible
>made up israelite garbage and taurus potmetal
KEK
E
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Black person
>buble wrote by white people featuring white jesus
Pro-tip: insert barrel into mouth and pull trigger until completion.
Shit bait, no (You)
>NT
>israelite garbage
John 8:39-44
Repent
My homieh
>rejecting christ like the israelites
>also hates the israelites
lol, lmao. lemme guess; your next move is
>my kindergarten level of theology says Christians have to love israelites!
Nice model 85, i have the ultralight titanium, alternate carrying it with the 365
how the frick does a pocket bible work anyway?
is it just the greatest hits or something, you cant fit the whole bible in such a tiny thing
Looks like it says it right on the cover. It's just psalms and proverbs so not the whole bible.
It's the entire New Testament + Psalms and Proverbs. It's about the size of my hand and is 633 pages long. Text is fairly small but so long as your eyesight is fine it's easily legible. I have a regular KJV bible for use at home, the pocket bible was given to me by a friend back in high school.
How many times you gotta read it? I mean at some point you get it and move on to another book.
You've never re-read a book? re-watched a movie/tv show?
Point taken anon.
It's just the Jesus gays are uber obsessed with their shit. Fixated on their shit to the exclusion of other shit.
>I carry it with me at all times
>Muh inspiration is strictly external
>Fixated on their shit to the exclusion of other shit.
You can say the same thing about marvelgays or SW/ST gays. I'd rather be in a foxhole with a religious gay than a marvel gay.
This I mean bro you cant just read the same book all the time, I heard this lucifer guy makes some good books too
It would take a thousand lifetimes to understand everything in the Bible
they pass them out at my Uni when the quad god guy shows up and proselytizes at the quad. Sometimes its the entire NT, sometimes its just the gospels and a few other bits. But the text is always tiny and the paper quality is always ass.
It’s just a lower esoteric truth stolen from the Greeks to slave morality bullshit invented by the archduke Paul to subvert the teachings of the Aryan Jesus ratio than the full version.
>how the frick does a pocket bible work anyway?
like the cover says, its just the NT and psalms and proverbs. a real shame, no job, no song of songs, no ecclesiastes. these books are disseminated by Gideons, an evangelical Christian (read: Protestant) group. Protestants tend to have a less-nuanced, more proof-text oriented method of interpretation. i would say it's stupidly and needlessly argumentative, relying on appeals to authority similar to pharisees or talmudics. one of the pillars of protestantism is sola scriptura, which is basically rejecting out of hand the tradition from which they sprang: Catholicism. this means they threw out 2000 years of Catholic philosophers and saints, in favor of their own method (which is ill-defined and often produces bad results). you absolutely *cannot* adequately understand the person of Jesus Christ and his role as messiah without the Old Testament. that said I have a few of those pocket NTs myself, but do prefer the full NIV for pleasure reading as you saw.
You've never read it.
Wrong. The winner always has more ammo.
12 missed shots don’t mean shit against 1 well placed one.
Miami Dade. FBI agent empties 2 12 shot magazines without landing a single hit and is killed while reloading his third.
Sure thing, dirty harry. Meanwhile there's hundreds of videos of combat on YouTube that show otherwise. Suppression is a thing, also.
lol post some so we can laugh at you when it's Black folk hosing down a whole street at dey ops. If you watch ASP videos on the regular you would know that fights are short as frick with very low round counts. Keep fantasizing about fighting off a BLM horde at the quick trip though.
>combat
You know we're talking about home invasions and city streets here and not going into fricking combat and chasing down bank robbers, right? I'd rather have a gun that goes boom six times every time instead of a gun that may jam due to adrenaline-induced limp wristing. Though in real life, neither will really matter since the other guy is going to be running 99.9 percent of the time after you fire your first round.
>suppression
Yeah, I got my neighbor to set up a machinegun nest in his balcony so we can set up a crossfire killzone in the street in case either of us get robbed.
“Videos of combat”
Of course you’re not going to bring a revolver to a fricking Warzone. Or a pistol. If you’re expecting to need to shoot someone you don’t bring a pistol, you bring a long arm like a rifle or carbine. And with those it still ends the same, hits on target > misses. People die when they are shot. People do not die if they are not shot.
SWAT don’t breach with pistols. They breach with submachine guns and carbines.
Miami Dade. Shooter with mini-14 wastes like 6 agents armed with revolvers and auto loaders.
Bring a rifle to a gunfight.
>Wrong. The winner always has more ammo.
Which one of these two was carrying more ammo?
https://www.wowktv.com/news/local/charleston-police-shooting-victim-pulled-assault-rifle-on-party/
what about the zoomer who was going to shoot up the congregation with an AR who got beamed by a single shot with a .357 sig glock by a boomer
He had a shotgun dumbass
carry on son.
We can't expect The Lord to do all the work.
based
Nice grip
too smooth for serious work imo.
ty frens
it does just fine, but does have an annoying habit of shifting slightly. would welcome non-rubber, or at least non-sticking monogrip suggestions.
I would wrap it in friction tape but that's my thing with "working" revolvers. It's only really "sticky" after you first put it on. Handle the gun a bunch the first couple of days after wrapping it, and wash your hands when you can feel the glue on them. Once you have most of the glue out it just feels like textured cloth(because it's cloth tape) yet it will get "sticky" with the heat of your hand. Always wrap from the bottom up. You will have to trim/burn the odd unraveling string every now and then as well. Also the glue could potentially damage/peel off the finish on wood grips.
Very nice my friend.
>religion that was coopted by power structures to maintain power is now coopted by people who hate power structures
>Taurus for self defense
>Bible to pray that the Taurus doesn't blow up
any gun can blow up if you're a moron.
i have 2 bibles in my plate carrier because I dont want the weight but its flimsy without something in there
Dragoon or 1851 Navy as babby's first black powder?
the navy is the pinnacle of Percussion guns.
51 for practicality. Dragoon/walker to shut homosexuals up at the range and keep them from crowding you at the benches.
Do you want more umph or more shootability?
Would you rather LARP as a Texas Ranger or one of Quantrill’s raiders?
>0
Because we've had like 17 the last week, and it's all the same.
Revolvers suck
So gents, what 357 loads do you carry? Personally I use Hornady Critcal defense as I got a bunch of it cheap years ago and it works well out of a 4". Also how do you like your coffee?
>what 357 loads do you carry
home brew keith style wadcutters
>Also how do you like your coffee?
black as a Black person
Imagine drinking vegan coffee. Fricking makes me sick. Based 357 loads tho
>what 357 loads do you carry
>home brew hard cast SWC
>Also how do you like your coffee?
>instant with heavy cream
158gr JSP will do the job. Over-penetration is a meme.
>coffee
moka pot, black
>what 357 loads do you carry? Personally I use Hornady Critcal defense
I use Hornady Critical Defense. A gun store near me was closing and I got a pretty good deal, the K6S in the OP image for $750 and 300rds of the HCD rds for 75 CPR (might have been cheaper, i dont remember). This was last year
>K6S cerakoted black
Its such a beautiful gun though 🙁
>revolver
K6S like
>ammo
140 gr solid monolithic
>coffee
black if hot and first thing in the morning but i also like frozen coffee drinks because they're basically caffeinated milkshakes.
Not the fanciest, but they'll probably do just fine when the time comes. I do want to try out buffalo bore though
Are you me? I carry this because it's the only HP available here....
Similar. It was all I could find online at the time
Golden sabres, been easier to find those than gold dot near me.
Iced with cream and sugar. Can't stand hot coffee, never had a taste for it.
>sugar
stop kiking your body bro.
>.38 +P 120 GR JHP because 2" barrel
>Black and thick
>>.38 +P 120 GR JHP because 2" barrel
and thick
I just use wadcutters out of my 2"
How do wadcutters perform compared to the .38 +P? It's been a while since I looked into it for carry, honestly. I know most people don't even think about the difference out of a 2", so is there something about wadcutters I missed there that makes that solid?
>bullets at typical self defense handgun velocities must physically touch tissue to damage it as there are no remote wounding effects caused by the temporary cavity exceeding the elasticity of human flesh at these velocities
>in order to successfully incapacitate a threat via physical damage vital structures must be damaged
>only rounds with adequate penetration can reach these vital structures
>shot placement and penetration are the only factors that determine the effectiveness of any given round to cause physical damage to vital structures
>the only downside to maximizing penetration with bullet selection is over-penetration
>if you don't care about overpenetration there is no reason to ever use hollowpoints because they limit penetration in exchange for an increase in surface area which is only a theoretically worthwhile exchange if you know for a FACT that expansion will not limit your penetration to unacceptable levels
>round nose bullets are inferior to bullets with square shoulders and flat meplats in their ability to cut tissue
>assuming two rounds have equally adequate penetration the better round of the two will be the one you can shoot faster while maintaining accuracy.
Hits count. First hits count most. Carry whatever gun/caliber combo you can make fast accurate hits with. Everything else is marketing bullshit designed to have you paying for overpriced meme ammunition.
>How do wadcutters perform compared to the .38 +P?
A wadcutter is a bullet type
+P refers to the amount of power in the case.
The two have nothing to do with each other, you could have normal wadcutters, +P wadcutters, etc.
That said, most wadcutter loads are meant for target shooting and are relatively weak, much weaker than the average +P load would be.
Black just like my metal
Buffalo bore hard cast in a sp101
In the cooler weather, Hornady JHP something or other + 2 more 8-shot moonclips out of my 5" 627
Why bother with critical duty? Isn't old ass 125 grain jhp plenty with a 5" barrel?
Old ass 158gr SWC is enough with a 2" barrel so you could put damn near anything in a 5" and have no worries.
I've honestly never carried my .357, seems like a shame. What's a good loading for a 4" barrel? And a decent holster for a 686+?
I've been looking for pictures of a K6S cerakoted black but not finding any. Wonder if its one of those things that cannot be done due to tolerances and timing.
Frick cerakote. Polish it up and have it coated in TiN. I LOVE GOOOOOOOOOOLD
https://www.titaniumgun.com/
Champagne with ivory grips. Oh boy.
Does anyone have recommendations for either a 7 or 8 shot .357 at either 4" or 5"?
I'd like to carry it on my shoulder and hoping for something with either ported or comped barrels for faster follow up shots.
I've found that if you want the performance of comped/lower recoil they look uglier than shit (TRR8, etc.). Perfect option would be a lower (relatively speaking) recoil, 8-shot, 4.25" Python, but I can't find anything like that.
Boy do I
It is physically repulsive
It can repel other people physically too. Usually forever depending on where you're aiming.
Is it?
Man, these Warzone meta builds keep getting fricking weirder by the day.
May God forgive you.
please stop posting this hotty. I cannot afford this and I am being seduced
Anon, it's time to take the 8-shot .357 revolverpill.
I will post it in every revolver thread. To your point though I need to snap some new pics
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/937326951
>Weight empty: 47 oz
It's exactly what that gay asked for. It's not my fault he's a moron. If he wasn't a moron he'd just get pic related and start practicing.
>Black person wants a 4 inch barrel 8 shot .357 that weighs less than 48 ounces
7 shot 586L, 3 inch with compensator but my honest review is that the sights are absolute dog shit (rear sight too narrow, front sight too wide) and I’m looking to get a Holosun EPS carry to put on it.
Thank you this is definitely up my alley. How bad is the recoil impulse for follow up shots? I live on the border of the bad side of town so that's my biggest concern.
Absolutely terrible since the shitty stock alamont grips did not fit right and cut into my thumb tearing off skin. With some shitty Amazon pachmyrs Velcro strapped on, full rubber backstrap, very manageable and I am now the menace of indoor ranges. and I can get a better grip with them. The grip screw doesn’t even work on them and they don’t even fit, I had to cut away material on the inside. I would buy hogue but they don’t have any compact sized rubber grips that have a full backstrap. Another anon I know of who has one went the VZ grips route.
My problem with the sights are
1. Tritium tube might as well not even be there, they must have burned out before they even put them in
2. Rear sight seems to be a standard size meant for 4-6 inch barrels and have a target notch (very little side to side gap). The notch is also very narrow
With it being a 3 inch barrel the front sight is pretty wide for the notch. Too wide. And they’re both black. The sights are just disappointing to use compared to my .44 Model 69 which have a orange front and white U outline rear. Replacing either the front or rear is not a easy task, unless you buy a complete new rear assembly. Which won’t match the front.
Even then I’m fairly confident of hitting man sized targets with magnum loads at 10 yards.
Thanks so much man; this is exactly what I was looking for. I may try getting a more regular 4 to 5" model and doing an edm port.
I’ve seen some very good prices on GP-100s and classic S&W 586s, 66s, and others on gunbroker.
I'm still holding out for a decently priced 65 or 66, the markups are brutal
See
I think the market is starting to cool off a bit in some areas.
For instance, this fine purveyor of boomer blasters has take a shot enabled (you can make a offer on them), and lowers the price every time the listing expires.
https://www.gunbroker.com/Revolvers/search?Sort=13&IncludeSellers=4376592&PageSize=24
Dude paint your front sight orange. Use nail polish. Coat of white, let it dry, coat of orange.
I have them painted white but the problem is the rear sight, and I don’t want to drop 120 dollars on a replacement rear that still won’t match the front (which will be another X expenditure).
I saw this guy’s set up and I’m about to copy it, except it’s a 19 and mines the 586.
Can't you buy replacement sight blades with different widths? I'm pretty sure that's a thing.
There is not a big selection, there’s only like one shop that makes a “drop in” blade but the installation for any new blade involves breaking the current screw off and some dremeling. Several shops do combat style fixed rears which have the slight picture I want, but it seems like something I’d have to send in my gun for for it to be installed right.
I want to go cyberpunk anyway, this was supposed to be my carry gun but I found a 92 LTT compact for a good price (same price as this revolver but with 13 extra mags, amazing DA pull, the perfect combat sights) so this thing is just an adult fidget spinner right now.
>Someone saved my picture.
I remember you. Godspeed.
>recoil is terrible
Just shoot .38s. 357 is a meme in small guns.
I bet those two have some stories
Redhawk
I agree with the caveat that the trigger on the redhawk will be worse out of the box than a smith. it breaks in well after about 1000 rounds or you can polish it your self. but despite this the redhawk has better lockwork than the smith.
>despite this the redhawk has better lockwork than the smith.
lolno. You can tune a ruger action very nice with shims and polishing but it the potential of the S&W action with the same amount of work(but you won't need shims) is higher. There's no getting around the tolerance slop of a cast frame.
>redhawk has better lockwork than the smith.
you are delusional
are revolvers obsolete for gunfights now? I'm not talking about self defense against someone unarmed or with a knife. I mean someone with a 9mm and a 12 round mag.
Make their brain go inside out before they do it to you. 357 and 44 can do this well.
Ok lets say you both see each other coming and get behind cover and are both expecting a gunfight. Are you fricked with a revolver?
>are both expecting a gunfight
If I am expecting a gunfight I'm taking a rifle.
If it has less than 7 rounds of cylinder capacity then I would say yes, they're obsolete for gunfights. Plus if you're not carrying at least a couple of spare speedloaders or moonclips, you might as well just turn the gun on you and pull the trigger.
The only thing that matters in a gun fight is your ability to put rounds on target. You only need 12 rounds if you couldn’t hit the target with the first 11. Now hitting a target is a lot harder when they’re shooting back but it’s all that matters, a round that misses has done nothing. Some people shoot better with a revolver, some with an auto, some can’t hit shit no matter what gun you give them.
But if you know you’re going to get into a gunfight, don’t bring a pistol, bring a rifle, a shotgun, anything with a stock.
You're not going to get into a "gunfight" you might have to dissuade some joggers from diversifying you at the gas station
Six rounds is plenty, St. Kyle of Kenosha only needed 5
I know I am not going to get into a gunfight I just like thinking hypothetically
It's fine to think about hypotheticals but you don't have to build your carry system around that super low percentage shit ever happening. Many do though so feel free if that's what cranks your tractor.
>are revolvers obsolete for gunfights now?
only if you're an immasculated homosexuals who doesn't spend their days sitting it darkend run down offices sipping straight whisky and chain smoking cigarettes as the next femme fatale pleads her fake sob story as she tries to play you for a sucker and get you to do all her dirty work for her. just like the last dame who walked through that door one hot los angeles day, as the sun beat down on all the other poor rubes just trying to make a living. and i don't know if it's that same sun or the girl that's making this office hotter than hell right now as i sit here listening to her repeating practised lines with blinds across the windows and a pain behind the eyes.
More people should listen to this guy.
That is a well-composed shot but I can't take it seriously because of the piece of shit saturday night special tier revolver.
>well-composed shot
it's a graphic my bro
nice.
here’s my cowboy larper
anybody have time on the new pythons? ive heard mixed things from lgs fudds about qc issues
They had issues at launch with a bad hand design which they fixed. I dunno anything about any recent issues.
Is it possible to do something like an EDM port on a revolver like the 4.25" Python?
You meant a magna port?
Yeah, I wasn't sure if porting cuts are available in any model. Are magna's the best for muzzle flip reduction?
Damn, i thought it would be more noticeable
he is a master pro shooter who sets world records.
You can have ports cut on any gun by a custom shop. How new are you to guns? I'm getting "noob who thinks he needs more than he does" vibes off your questions. Practice will help you tame recoil not ports. Also .357 is fricking stupid. .38 is plenty of power and doesn't suck to shoot.
>clean, modern lines
>simple, uncluttered shapes
The K6 looks like the only revolver that isn't in love with 1950s aesthetics or edgelord greeble shit. Wish more looked like that.
>edgelord greeble shit
this annoys me to no end. and they are all doing it. these newer guns make the glock look stylish. absolutely no aesthetic considerations at all. just angles, stippling patterns and slide serrations on every part of the slide.
I got my first revolver a week ago. I love it
Is that the soviet coat of arms? Lend lease gun?
It kind of looks like one, doesn't it? It's a Brazilian police contract gun and that's their coat of arms.
I want to pick up a 357 revolver one of these days, thinkin gp100 4 inch
Dan Wesson chads...... RISE UP!
Cheap holster I got from walmart
>build company to reclaim your family reputation for making the best revolvers you can buy
>company is run into the ground because revolvers are dead as frick
>bought by Czechs and now all you make are 1911s for boomers
A sad tale.
At leads they still make the 715 (stainless version of what I have)
Hoping to pick up this tomorrow, very excited. Ive had a 1970s nickel model 27, and still have a 1960s colt trooper, but i want something absurdly big again but with higher capacity and not have to worry about it breaking.
Does anyone have a chiappa 40ds or 50ds? I want to see what they look like with a light on them
Bumpy
Commie homosexual.
I almost went with a K6 but got a GP100 instead, are the K6s good? I heard good stuff about them.
I like mine a lot. I have a Taurus 856 that shoots and feels like absolute dogshit by comparison
>I have a Taurus 856 that shoots and feels like absolute dogshit by comparison
Why would someone just lie on the internet?
there is no lie fren
It's just so far from my experience with them I have a hard time taking it seriously. I have two 856s and they are the breasts. I've never seen anyone who owns one here posting pics who complains about it. Do you have any specific complaints?
Cool. I have two Honda Civics. Great cars! Trust me, it's just like driving a Corvette.
Ok so you're not serious you're just trolling. Thanks for clearing that up.
Actually I'm not. If you're happy with them, great. But I also wasn't shitting on your favorite toys just because they aren't as smooth as a gun that's more than twice the price and THATS why I think you're a dumb Black person.
I've handled/shot a K6S and I don't think it was that much of a step up action-wise. It was lighter than my 3" 856 but I'd say it was about equal with my 2" 856. I think because you spent twice as much you have some bias towards it.
I keep waiting for someone to do something interesting with a new revolver but it keeps not happening.
I wish I could let you feel the action on pic related. I put in work and it's a fricking super star. That's the worst thing about new revolvers with MiM parts. You just can't do the same level of action work.
>Bias
Projection. I'm surprised you haven't posted your chart yet.
It's not "my" chart some other anon made it when he was in the market for a 3" medium frame. And you shouldn't hate on the chart it's just data it doesn't tell you how to feel about it.
Damn, I should have said I'm surprised you aren't sucking my wiener yet.
You don't sound like a happy person anon. You wanna get anything off your chest?
I dont get it , I have a Rhino and shoot it just fine, Just dont put your thumb anywhere near the cylinder. Its a fun gun , kinda pricy , but fun to shoot
My Colts.
Nice. I have the Cobra Carry.
I need a full size revolver, but I can't decide between .357 and .44. I have a smaller .357 revolver and can handle it out of full size guns, but I've never shot .44 before.
If you reload, .44. If you don't, .357. You can shoot Skeeter or Keith level specials and they are quite effective yet have significantly less recoil than magnums.
I've always wanted a webley revolver, but I've never owned a C&R before. Is there anything I would need to know about owning a hundred year old or more gun? If I get one in .455 (which is what I want) then I'd obviously have to hand load ammo, right?
Someone needs to make repro Webleys.
Nvm, found this while searching for pics
https://citytoday.news/webley-scott-to-launch-made-in-india-revolvers/
Pajeet bros, anyone own one of these?
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/webley-mkvi-co2-pellet-revolver-battlefield-finish?m=4482
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/webley-mkvi-co2-pellet-revolver-battlefield-finish-2-5?m=5296
Honestly, I'd be happy with any auto-ejecting top loader. I might try and find a schofield reproduction one of these days. Uberti makes one, right? Any other options?
>Any other options?
Not new mfg. You can get on old H&R 999 if you're into that sort of thing.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/937366917
>Starting bid $695
Holy shit, how about no? I bought mine for $325 in 2019. I know prices are all crazy now, but that revolver isn't worth $700.
Thing is, $700 is no longer $700, either.
ah shut the frick up inflation fetishist
morons like you who pay 700 is why its 700
yeah they are running for about 400 these days.
Has to be brand? H&R topbreak not acceptable?
Somebody buy this and engrave "GET FITZ'D" on the muzzle.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/937366917
I really don't like the S&W lock, I know they fixed the early issues but geesh. My friend bought a performance center 340 and it actually locked up at the range. Had to send it back to S&W with ammo still in it. It's always a "friend" story but I was there.
https://www.originalprecision.com/lock-delete-kit.html
kind of a pain to line up the little piece with pliers, but this shit works
From my understanding, 99.9% of the time the issue on the lock seems to be the airlite series and magnum loads. No other revolver seems to have that issue anymore. I imagine the extreme light weight and heavy recoil is just enough to potentially trigger it.
>seems to be the airlite series and magnum loads.
Clarification question: Do you mean that it seems to be the airlite series using magnum loads, or do you mean that the airlite series has a problem and using magnum loads is another problem? I'm in the market for either a .357 or .44 S&W right now.
The idea is that the lock can engage itself under recoil, air lights and magnums is probably the most recoil a revolver can be under. However it’s been reported on K, L, N frames as well. You can just remove the lock. It takes like 30 minutes and gets you intimate with your revolver, there’s aftermarket plugs to fill the hole from the lock.
Then you have that whole Harrel take of "don't modify self defense firearms" but then you end up not leaving your 'locked' S&W revolvers in grab spots around the house and don't carry it. Then if you remove the lock you are in the same position, it just become a range toy only.
>Then you have that whole Harrel take of "don't modify self defense firearms"
Which is a shit take. Has there ever been a conviction in an otherwise legit DGU due to a weapon modification(non-NFA)?
>but the prosecutor is gunna...
lie, obfuscate and do shady shit regardless of what you did or didn't do to your gun. If you think doing something to your gun improves your chances of surviving a DGU then do it.
Harrell is a paranoid boomer who does have a point but firearm modification is such a common thing these days it literally will not fly in court. The prosecutor can try but it only tells the Jury he’s literally scraping the bottom of the barrel. Rittenhouse’s prosecutor tried to use the rounds being “FMJ” to penetrate as many targets as possible and tried to use how Rittenhouse played Call of Duty. The prosecutor can try but it won’t work.
What's the phrase? "A good lawyer could get satan out of hell," or something like that? Now granted, there are some things you shouldn't do like paint "I hate Black folk" on the side of your carry gun, but you really shouldn't be concerned with prosecution arguments aside from serious fringe examples.
Let's just say you're carrying a standard glock in 9mm. The prosecution can say "This guy is using the same gun the police use! He's clearly trying to take the law into his own hands." Carry a revolver instead and you're dirty harry or larping as a cowboy. Look at the size of that giant .38 special round compared to a 9mm! Hollow points are evil, fmj is military spec. Modify it and the prosecution can call you bloodthirsty. Don't modify it and they'll say that you have no idea what you're doing and no idea how deadly guns are. It's also important to take into account how few self defense shootings go to court at all.
I meant that the airlight series using magnum loads seems to be the overwhelming number of cases of the lock flicking on. I have not heard of many cases of their heavier pistols having the issue. It seems exclusively a high recoil problem aggravated by the extreme lightness of the airlite series relative to the caliber they shoot. For instance, the somewhat comparable J-frame 642 doesn't seem to have the issue very much, perhaps due to the lower recoiling .38.
I personally don't see it as a critical issue, but some people are paranoid about it. I think it'd be more likely that someone fricks up my calipers when I get those changed on my car. But to each their own. S&W has some revolvers still sold that don't have them anymore so that may be an option for you.
>S&W has some revolvers still sold that don't have them anymore
Only J-frames. The locks are dumb. The locks cost S&W sales. They KNOW everyone hates them. They don't even show that side of their revolvers on the website. Frick those buttholes I will never buy a smith with a lock.
Well, J frame IS their top seller by a country mile. I imagine theres not many people who would truly buy one who is stopped by the lock. If there was, they wouldnt do it. But i dont think revolvers matter to S&W in terms of sales outside the 642, which is their #1 seller by a mile
I would've thought that one of their M&P semi-auto pistols would overtake the 642 at this point.
Nah that guy is fricking high. There's no way they sell more 642 than M&P shields.
Yeah, guy's delusional. I live in MA (Unfortunately, but it's where S&W is based if you didn't know.) Here's what's available at my closest store. Now you could make up some story about "Well, they have more M&Ps which means they're not selling!" but the fact is that I could go to literally any gun store in the state and ask for a new M&P and they will have it. It'll be a total gamble on whether or not they even stock new revolvers regularly.
That's pretty close to my LGS as well. The only revolvers they had the last time I checked were a J-Frame or two and a GP100, but plenty of M&Ps along with the usual Sig and Glock shelves.
Yeah, M&Ps are basically THE gun now. It was glocks like ten years ago, but S&W pretty quickly and easily took over the polymer frame, striker fired pistol market. Seems like Glocks won out because there wasn't a serious competitor before and police surplus gave them an edge in price. Glock needs to actually compete now instead of just exist.
I'm a revolvergay through and through, but the simple fact of the matter is that they're a niche/hipster choice. For a pocket gun, you're still usually getting an extra round or two and the benefit of easier reloads when talking about a pistol. For a full size gun, pistols carry three or four times the ammo and are STILL smaller and beat reload speed.
Naw, Glocks are still king, but they have definitely taken a backseat to all the choices that exist today. M&P is probably 2nd/tied with sig.
The P365 was the killing blow for CCW revolvers.
>shorter overall length than a j-frame
>weighs less than most j-frames, barring the scandium models
>much better trigger than a da revolver
>holds 10 rounds compared to a j-frame's 5 or 6 shots
and yet hundreds of thousands of pocket revolvers are sold each and every year.
Anyone who is carrying a DA is doing so because they like DA triggers. I'd rather have a heavy trigger on a carry gun. Plus the extra capacity means more weight, the P365 is about 23 ounces loaded.
Sorry, I was in fact high
Takes about 10 mins to remove the lock internals. You can also leave the external part of the lock inside the hole in the frame. Done it to a few so far
Hey guys, it looks like my S&W M1917 is piercing primers when firing in single action. When I fire in DA I sometimes get light strikes too. Out of the 100 rounds of S&B .45 I fired today, it looks like 4 of these were pierced. Has anyone dealt with this before?
Without being able to inspect the gun my first suspicion would be the ammo quality. Have you tested other types of ammo? DA does hit slightly softer than SA but to go from light strikes to pierced primers just from that variance is a breddy big shift. What does the firing pin look like? Have you measured the protuberance of the firing pin through the frame?
The other day I fired 50 rounds of magtech, and had two light strikes, but that was it. I'll look into it more and will post my findings. Thanks, anon.
Have you taken it apart and inspected/lubed it? Let's say for argument sake that the pierced primers was ammo related but the light strikes aren't. It might be as simple as a filthy/dry internal mechanism slowing your hammer just enough.
Oh and make sure the hammer spring tension screw is screwed all the way in. gays love to back that shit out to make the trigger lighter rather than, I dunno, git gud?
Its perfect i love it forever. Feels very quality. Might go try it out today in da woodz.
Nice im still looking for a original model 27 for sub 1300
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What is the best speedloader for N-Frame / 8 round cylinders?
Speedbeez
$650 for S&W Model 65 stainless .357, 4" at my LGS. Decent deal?
I got mine for about 200 less. Sounds like a bad deal unless it mint (or maybe I just got a steal and have no clue on the actual regular values of these things)
well, what year did you get yours? Reminder
>Inflation
Last year I think, around Thanksgiving. Then again it's copsurp so that definitely affects the value even if it's in fine shape
Isn't here anyone else that makes something like the S&W R8?
I've seen other big boy 8 shot 357s. Just none with the rails and finish of the r8.
There's Korth, if you're made of money.
Fugg. Those are a lot of money.
I want to get into big bore revolvers at some point. I'm split between .45 Colt and .44 Magnum. I want to use it as a range toy to shoot big bullets. .45 ACP gave me a thing for .45 caliber bullets, but .44 Magnum doesn't require Ruger-only loads to reach true magnum territory. I figure I could download .44 Magnum to bunny fart levels for easy shooting if I wanted too.
I plan on getting into reloading as well, so ammo availability is not a problem.
I mean you can download 45 to do that too. And can't you reuse the .45 ACP bullet heads for .45 LC?
.45 colt if you want to be a cowboy. .44 magnum if you want to be an 80s PI.
.45lc is generally loaded lighter and is """weaker""" than .44 in most factory loads, but if you're talking about handloading and using modern guns, you can load them both pretty identically. The choice is basically down to aesthetics if you're planning on loading your own ammo.
If I were you and did all the things you plan on doing, like reloading, I would put my faith in 44 magnum. I don't have any facts about .45 LC ballistics but I have shot .44 magnum and it's an absolute beast. Plus instead of larping for a self defense shooting you can larp a bear defense scenario
Is abyss-deep concealed pocket carry worth losing the external hammer? The hammer is one of the core pieces of revolver aesthetics to me.
Thingken bout buyin a spurless hammer model SP101 in .357 for a late fathers day gift, plans to carry it I think since he never has before our constitutional carry laws
See if they have a Taurus 856 you can check out when you go to the LGS. Small .357s are dumb, it has one more round than the SP101 and it's half the cost.
Small .357s do seem kind of dumb, and I kind of fear he'll hate shooting .357 out of something that small, but we went to a LGS and that's what he seemed to like. Guess he can always shoot .38 out of it, it'd be cheaper anyway. Might have to mention the extra round out of the 856 though
You can get 115 grain .357 it doesn't really kick or blast that much.
.38 special +P with 158 grain semi wadcutters is probably the optimal revolver cartridge.
Why spurless?
Because there's no reason to have single action on a fighting revolver and snubs are fighting revolvers not target guns.
There is a 99.9 chance the revolver will only be fired for target shooting and that 0.1% he can you know, just not pull the hammer back.
>There is a 99.9 chance the revolver will only be fired for target shooting
and?
not while there is streetlights and bars
It's just what we saw and he liked. I made note of it but he didn't give a shit.
That feeling when living in Europe
Fired a .45-70 revolver a few days ago
I felt the sound in my soul
You crazy bastard. Sounds fun.
Stupid drunk question: are there any diy revolver kits? I've seen the percussion cap shit but is there a market for modern frames that you can build yerself?
got me a charter .45 acp, five shot
Is an older colt detective special a bad choice for CC? I mean it functions OK but I don't know how comfortable I am with a 60 year old revolver that nobody works on anymore as my carry piece.
Would a J frame be a better choice?
>don't know how comfortable I am with a 60 year old revolver that nobody works on anymore as my carry piece.
If it's all you got it's all you got. If you have the means though I'd get something newer and less historically valuable for actual use.
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ALSO ANY AND ALL ITALIAN ANONS
IF YOU CAN LOCATE ANY SHOPS OR OWNERS OF MATEBA 6 UNICAS OR 2006M REVOLVERS I WILL IMPORT THEM.
I HAVE CASH MONEY IN HAND AND WILL PAY TO HAVE MULTIPLE IMPORTED.
LOCATING THEM IS THE HARDEST PART AND I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE.
Based. Always wanted to own a revolving rifle, but I'm lazy.
Hey frick you im buying this too. Stop bidding.
Hey I saw you posting last week and deliberately raised the price by two grand.
Go frick yourself.
Why are you such a spiteful piece of shit?
I was trying to win it but figured I would bow out if he wanted it that bad.
Now the grifone however...
What about it? I’ll trade you Unicas if you want it so badly
You are an absolute israelite. Congratulations.
I can't find an old model 10 locally so I'm considering picking up a Taurus 856. Am I moronic?
>le local sales
https://www.gunbroker.com/Revolvers/search?Sort=13&IncludeSellers=4376592&PageSize=24
Not moronic just impatient.
the only good picture/gif of satania
thanks anon for posting this godly picture.
What's a good steel frame .22lr revolver for under $500? Double or single action, just want something that will last forever.
>What's a good steel frame .22lr revolver for under $500?
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No but seriously the only choice under $500 is the Taurus 942 and they sell out so fast when a new boat arrives from Brasil that you will end up paying way over msrp if you can even find one.
proving my point....there is ONE on gunbroker and it's $480 when it should be more like $300.
forgot link...
https://www.gunbroker.com/Revolvers/search?Keywords=942&PageSize=96&Sort=4&View=1&BuyNowOnly=1
I can't wait to see what this ends for: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/936238367
I was eyeing a Kimber also. I'm thinking of getting the target model
Anyone ever parkerized a revolver before? I bought a really worn S&W 36. Mechanically it's fine but I was thinking it could be a nice project
rust blueing would be much easier and cheaper.
Opinions on the 638?
I'm going to be buying a 642 this week, but if anyone has both or really likes the 638 let me know.
There's no difference but the ability to wiener the hammer for single action(and the aesthetic). Get whichever one you like best.
Pawnshop near me has an M638 listed for $300, shame about the lock but that's cheaper than a Taurus
https://shop.mrpawnnevada.com/Item/Details/SMITH-WESSON-M638/d248f333413d4d4384babbe35ceb339d/13
>that's cheaper than a Taurus
No it's not. and the black model is like $30 cheaper.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/935677706
Thanks for the Tauri. I can also get a used 856 for $230 at the same shop, the new ones are $343 though. Worth picking one up?
If you can perform a proper inspection before you do any paperwork then yes they are good especially for the money. Remember it's probably steel(although they do make aluminum versions) and it has one more shot so it's slightly larger than a J-frame and being steel will be heavier so if you're going for pocket carry it might be a tiny bit too large/heavy depending on your pockets so the J-frame still might be the better choice.
https://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/
Thanks. That's a lot of stuff to check for, so I appreciate the resource.
You can skip launching a pencil out the barrel lol.
Just check the timing on each cylinder and check that each chamber is properly aligned with the bore and that the hammer(if it has one) doesn't "push off" of full wiener and you should be good. Make sure with any new revolver you lube it when you get it. If you're too pussy to take the sideplate off you can shoot some lube in the hammer and trigger slots and work the action a few times. Here's how you take the cylinder apart to clean the cylinder pin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6lQprzO1nw
remember any friction on the cylinder pin increases the friction of the entire system. Don't lube to cylinder pin as it will only attract crud. If you MUST lube it go very lightly. God speed anon.
>Just check the timing on each *chamber*
>listed for $300
It's $330.
Oh and it's used so here's a used 856 for $230.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/938013682
I want a long revolver like big iron to larp as a new vegas ranger. are there any decent ones at a budget price?
No.
tbh a Magnum Research BFR is a steal.
Used Ruger vaquero
Nice Kimber, anon. it's very sexy
I would kissy kiss
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That stummy
I want to get a Smith Model 19 Classic in 357 Mag for a first gun. This is pretty moronic right? It's gonna be mostly target shooting at the range and a not so concealed carrying when hiking.
>This is pretty moronic right?
Not at all. An entire generation of men learned to shoot on S&W .357s loaded with .38spl.
You'll be fine, just learn the fundamentals and don't jump straight to .357 immediately. .38spl is still fairly easy to find online. It's expensive, but revolvers in general haven't been a cheap date since the 1970s.
Other than altamont, anyone want to shill some grip makers?
vz grips
How much are unicas now and are they worth it? Do parts break frequently?
>$5000+
>yes
>yes
what is the combined grain in your cylinder?
>250 grain
>5 shots
>1250 grain
54211706
i was honestly asking :<
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ah. fair enough. I like my silver wheelgun and I guess i just look for validation in my choice
Any gun is enough gun if you practice with it and can make solid hits with it. The gun is the least important part of self defense.
>avoidance
>awareness
>de-escalation
>evasion
>engagement
How does the thread feel about engravings?
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