>from 2nd 10 years ago to 7th exporter iirc.
not only that, in 2023 only countries that made some new contracts with Russia were Iran and India. And then India was only licensing aircraft production
perhaps this has something to do with russia needing those arms domestically? this seems extremely obvious when you remember that literally everyone and their mother has increased exports by means of ukraine
perhaps it has something to do with the whole world being united in laughter at how fricking dogshit and embarassing their equipment's performance has been, and buyers seeking to avoid such embarassment brought upon themselves.
It'll only get worse for them. How the mighty have fallen. Or rather, it always was a paper tiger.
Don't be surprised to see Ukraine join the top 10 in a decade or so.
The only reason Russia is still on the list at all is old contracts.
No one's ordering new Russian shit because of how miserably it's doing in Ukraine and Russia couldn't sell new shit anyways because they don't even have enough for their own military.
France was even selling to Russia until the start of the war. They're the only reason Russia even got something like modern tank thermals after the fall of the USSR.
>France was even selling to Russia until the start of the war.
They did not.
France stopped selling stuff to Russia after the 2014 attacks on Crimea and Donbass.
What France did is they delivered the remaining orders passed before 2014 to Russia until 2022 under the condition these systems were dedicated to export products.
After the 2022 aggression all the remaining and pending deliveries were sent to Ukraine instead.
The few components involved in thermal cameras Russia managed to buy from Lynred, formerly known as Sofradir, were originally dedicated to civilian use. >They're the only reason Russia even got something like modern tank thermals after the fall of the USSR.
Lol no they're not. You're giving too much credit to France.
Currently most sensitive electronic components Russia obtains are still US made. Russia acquires these through back channels and black markets thanks to shady intermediaries. This is to be expected since the USA can't simply ITARize everything.
Here are examples of US-made chips found inside Russian missiles.
That they kept delivering weapons and stopped new orders doesn't make them any less perfidious. They were up and ready to give the Russians the Mistrals until the collective west asked them what the frick they were thinking.
Russian aggression was enabled by French companies who don't care who the buyers of their weapons are.
And who saw the best opportunity to sell them weapons?
That the west was hoping Russia would stop being Black folk doesn't mean that we'd all of the sudden trust them enough to sell them fricking LHDs.
Unless, of course, you're the French, and your 2nd rate defense industry is so hungry for orders it'll sell to whatever tinpot dictator of the week has oil money burning a hole in his pocket.
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Anonymous
Which countries rescued Roscosmos? (France, US)
Which country had joint development and transferred a lot of hypersonic missile research? (US)
To not mention the 'civilian sector': Raytheon, P&W (US)
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What do you think is more relevant to a land war in Europe? Soyuz launches to the ISS, or thermal sights and LHDs?
Go ahead and let me know anything military that Raytheon is giving to Russia, you obstinate homosexual
Let's not forget german companies like Siemens also selling Russia the industrial machinery needed for their MIC, sometimes using proxies for it.
Both countries drank the Ostpolitik kool aid to the end.
>Pedantic frog.
Correcting your lies and providing proofs you can find US made components in Russian weapons is pedantic now? Get off your high horse. >That they kept delivering weapons and stopped new orders doesn't make them any less perfidious.
Every western country that sells weapons or dual use products sold stuff to Russia or bought stuff from Russia at some point, stuff that allowed Russians to chimpout.
You blame France most likely because you're angry about something completely unrelated. >They were up and ready to give the Russians the Mistrals until the collective west asked them what the frick they were thinking.
Russian navy officials were the first to say they didn't need these ships. French authorities didn't need anybody scolding them to take the decision not to deliver the ships. Nobody asked what the French were thinking, rather everybody whined like crybabies and promised to compensate France then didn't. France still lost money. >Russian aggression was enabled by French companies who don't care who the buyers of their weapons are.
Right, then Putin ate Napoleon's ashes and a baguette, which turned him into Darth Vladimir.
And who saw the best opportunity to sell them weapons?
That the west was hoping Russia would stop being Black folk doesn't mean that we'd all of the sudden trust them enough to sell them fricking LHDs.
Unless, of course, you're the French, and your 2nd rate defense industry is so hungry for orders it'll sell to whatever tinpot dictator of the week has oil money burning a hole in his pocket.
>Unless, of course, you're the French, and your 2nd rate defense industry is so hungry for orders it'll sell to whatever tinpot dictator of the week has oil money burning a hole in his pocket.
France do not sell weapons to Turkey.
What do you think is more relevant to a land war in Europe? Soyuz launches to the ISS, or thermal sights and LHDs?
Go ahead and let me know anything military that Raytheon is giving to Russia, you obstinate homosexual
>What do you think is more relevant to a land war in Europe? Soyuz launches to the ISS, or thermal sights and LHDs?
Basedouz launches allow Russia to send spy sats in space.
LHDs are not relevant in a land war especially if you can easily destroy them with AShMs. The Mistral class is built using civilian specs. Their defensive armament is non-existent. They're slow. They would have ended up like the Moskva, at the bottom of the black sea.
Frankly I hope you're paid to do this.
Me, I do it for free, your cope & seethe is enough of a prize.
I can't even get mad because it's a frog posting this and I'm just picturing him in his little beret riding a tank whose cannon is one giant cigarette holder going "hon hon hon remember le Napoleon".
Thales is counted as French but half their workers are all across Europe. Same eith most of the European sales. Don't think of them as seperate nations really any more.
France is a strong country with a good location. If America didn't exist, France would have been a dominant world player. Too bad we cuck them by our mere existence.
>France is a strong country with a good location. If America didn't exist, France would have been a dominant world player. Too bad we cuck them by our mere existence.
This is your education on common core
Thales and a few other MULTINATIONALS just happen to have original headquarters in France, this inflates their sales figures, since the French have less qualms about selling weapons to thirdies than other nations, so arms companies either go through shell HQs there or they're just more successful due to increased and more stable revenue.
Most of their workers exist outside of France, in Germany, UK, USA, Sweden, etc, but their sales go through France.
topkek
France succeeds at something, /k/'s reaction: >T-THIS IS B-BACKSTAB
lawl
Thales and a few other MULTINATIONALS just happen to have original headquarters in France, this inflates their sales figures, since the French have less qualms about selling weapons to thirdies than other nations, so arms companies either go through shell HQs there or they're just more successful due to increased and more stable revenue.
Most of their workers exist outside of France, in Germany, UK, USA, Sweden, etc, but their sales go through France.
Utter drivel and maximum cope.
Most of these numbers are driven by Dassault Naval Group and Nexter by the way, with the Rafale, the Scorpene, and the Caesar.
Show me on a map where they're designed and built.
France (You) facilitate conflict for your own monetary gain and neo-collonial asperations. You routinely supply dictarorial regimes and supply the means for genocide. You habbitualy arm the enemies of the very alliances you yourself are part of. You are vile and traiterous, camouflaging with arrogance and pretense your total lack of morality.
Cool story Mamadou Kebabovitch from Bamako Oblast. Now go to the nearest Wagner recruitment office, they need more meat for the waves.
Also none of what you said is true but at this point I frankly wish it was.
the frogs have held strong to their "we need to be able to make everything ourselves or at the very worst with an other EU country" way of doing things
So they can sell you just about every weapon system you'd ever need, aside from rifles.
if you want quality and don't want to buy from the burgers the french are your one stop shop
Not surprising really, they max yield instead of volume by selling planes, boats, subs, radars, missiles and all sort of shit that cost billions a piece.
How much do the non-listed EU countries export? Netherlands has some warship production and Sweden is covering fields like aircraft and IFV. I'd expect Czechs and Poles to have at least a bit as well.
>usa is unreachable >Russia is barely equal to France >China is barely equal to Germany >then you also have the UK, Italy and even fricking Spain
So much for the "Global" South.
Also kekking at Koreansisters lmao.
Perun recent video shows the fall of russian arms exports, from 2nd 10 years ago to 7th exporter iirc.
>from 2nd 10 years ago to 7th exporter iirc.
not only that, in 2023 only countries that made some new contracts with Russia were Iran and India. And then India was only licensing aircraft production
and buybacks, shaheds, nork shells... I wonder if they're net exporters at all.
Didn't serbia buy some weapons from Russia, or am i remembering things wrong.
used to i guess. but i also remember there being articles in 22-23 about how serbia planned on buyin chink stuff instead
>и ты, бpaтaн?
perhaps this has something to do with russia needing those arms domestically? this seems extremely obvious when you remember that literally everyone and their mother has increased exports by means of ukraine
>needing those arms domestically?
Their exports collapse began years before the invasion. 2014 sanctions had some effect too.
Source?
SIPRI
Is the point of this war because they couldn't sell their weapons???
That graph cuts off at 2020.... The war started in 2022.
So they had two years of unsold weapons so they decided to use them for war instead?
Yep, and Russian arms imports appear to have skyrocketed. Putin found himself with a need...
perhaps it has something to do with the whole world being united in laughter at how fricking dogshit and embarassing their equipment's performance has been, and buyers seeking to avoid such embarassment brought upon themselves.
It'll only get worse for them. How the mighty have fallen. Or rather, it always was a paper tiger.
Don't be surprised to see Ukraine join the top 10 in a decade or so.
The only reason Russia is still on the list at all is old contracts.
No one's ordering new Russian shit because of how miserably it's doing in Ukraine and Russia couldn't sell new shit anyways because they don't even have enough for their own military.
Foreign governments prefer to spend money on stuff that works. Sorry Russia and China only sell you inferior crap.
France? FRANCE??
hon hon you like my Aster baguette.
topkek, the average oo/k/ oo/k/ wakes up after decades of sleep.
Yes. France. So what?
"Airbus"
"MBDA"
Ariane
Thales
Safran
Dassault
Naval Group
Nexter
etc.
France was even selling to Russia until the start of the war. They're the only reason Russia even got something like modern tank thermals after the fall of the USSR.
>France was even selling to Russia until the start of the war.
They did not.
France stopped selling stuff to Russia after the 2014 attacks on Crimea and Donbass.
What France did is they delivered the remaining orders passed before 2014 to Russia until 2022 under the condition these systems were dedicated to export products.
After the 2022 aggression all the remaining and pending deliveries were sent to Ukraine instead.
The few components involved in thermal cameras Russia managed to buy from Lynred, formerly known as Sofradir, were originally dedicated to civilian use.
>They're the only reason Russia even got something like modern tank thermals after the fall of the USSR.
Lol no they're not. You're giving too much credit to France.
Currently most sensitive electronic components Russia obtains are still US made. Russia acquires these through back channels and black markets thanks to shady intermediaries. This is to be expected since the USA can't simply ITARize everything.
Here are examples of US-made chips found inside Russian missiles.
Pedantic frog.
That they kept delivering weapons and stopped new orders doesn't make them any less perfidious. They were up and ready to give the Russians the Mistrals until the collective west asked them what the frick they were thinking.
Russian aggression was enabled by French companies who don't care who the buyers of their weapons are.
>Implying that most of the West didn't hope that Russia wouldn't become progressively civilized pre 2010.
And who saw the best opportunity to sell them weapons?
That the west was hoping Russia would stop being Black folk doesn't mean that we'd all of the sudden trust them enough to sell them fricking LHDs.
Unless, of course, you're the French, and your 2nd rate defense industry is so hungry for orders it'll sell to whatever tinpot dictator of the week has oil money burning a hole in his pocket.
Which countries rescued Roscosmos? (France, US)
Which country had joint development and transferred a lot of hypersonic missile research? (US)
To not mention the 'civilian sector': Raytheon, P&W (US)
What do you think is more relevant to a land war in Europe? Soyuz launches to the ISS, or thermal sights and LHDs?
Go ahead and let me know anything military that Raytheon is giving to Russia, you obstinate homosexual
Let's not forget german companies like Siemens also selling Russia the industrial machinery needed for their MIC, sometimes using proxies for it.
Both countries drank the Ostpolitik kool aid to the end.
so did burgers anon
>Pedantic frog.
Correcting your lies and providing proofs you can find US made components in Russian weapons is pedantic now? Get off your high horse.
>That they kept delivering weapons and stopped new orders doesn't make them any less perfidious.
Every western country that sells weapons or dual use products sold stuff to Russia or bought stuff from Russia at some point, stuff that allowed Russians to chimpout.
You blame France most likely because you're angry about something completely unrelated.
>They were up and ready to give the Russians the Mistrals until the collective west asked them what the frick they were thinking.
Russian navy officials were the first to say they didn't need these ships. French authorities didn't need anybody scolding them to take the decision not to deliver the ships. Nobody asked what the French were thinking, rather everybody whined like crybabies and promised to compensate France then didn't. France still lost money.
>Russian aggression was enabled by French companies who don't care who the buyers of their weapons are.
Right, then Putin ate Napoleon's ashes and a baguette, which turned him into Darth Vladimir.
>Unless, of course, you're the French, and your 2nd rate defense industry is so hungry for orders it'll sell to whatever tinpot dictator of the week has oil money burning a hole in his pocket.
France do not sell weapons to Turkey.
>What do you think is more relevant to a land war in Europe? Soyuz launches to the ISS, or thermal sights and LHDs?
Basedouz launches allow Russia to send spy sats in space.
LHDs are not relevant in a land war especially if you can easily destroy them with AShMs. The Mistral class is built using civilian specs. Their defensive armament is non-existent. They're slow. They would have ended up like the Moskva, at the bottom of the black sea.
Frankly I hope you're paid to do this.
Me, I do it for free, your cope & seethe is enough of a prize.
I can't even get mad because it's a frog posting this and I'm just picturing him in his little beret riding a tank whose cannon is one giant cigarette holder going "hon hon hon remember le Napoleon".
Thales is counted as French but half their workers are all across Europe. Same eith most of the European sales. Don't think of them as seperate nations really any more.
After the sacrifice of 500k mobiks, the multipolar world has come. The poles are America and France.
No refunds.
>"I want a multipolar world!"
>the finger of the monke's paw curls
>world is now some flavor of Quebec
>After the sacrifice of 500k mobiks, the multipolar world has come. The poles are America and France.
>No refunds.
based
Topkek
Tell me what these countries have bought from France and at what cost anon.
>personification of France drawn by americans
regal woman clad in gold and whike silks
>personification of France drawn by the french
Guns ! breasts ! Revolution !
Yes.
Yes.
A CHALLENGER APPEARS
Does South Africa still have a defense industry? Denel used to be relevant.
You'll buy the FAMAS and you'll be happy
I would if you fricks sold me one for less than 5 digits
France controls a european sized portion of africa. Makes them buy their stuff.
Until recently though.
Most latinamerica, parts of africa and middle east.
>actually 90% is ian mcollum
The man is single-handedly keeping the doors open at the .32 Longue factory.
France is a strong country with a good location. If America didn't exist, France would have been a dominant world player. Too bad we cuck them by our mere existence.
>France is a strong country with a good location. If America didn't exist, France would have been a dominant world player. Too bad we cuck them by our mere existence.
This is your education on common core
Thales and a few other MULTINATIONALS just happen to have original headquarters in France, this inflates their sales figures, since the French have less qualms about selling weapons to thirdies than other nations, so arms companies either go through shell HQs there or they're just more successful due to increased and more stable revenue.
Most of their workers exist outside of France, in Germany, UK, USA, Sweden, etc, but their sales go through France.
France backstabs everyone for shekels
No surprise there really
topkek
France succeeds at something, /k/'s reaction:
>T-THIS IS B-BACKSTAB
lawl
Utter drivel and maximum cope.
Most of these numbers are driven by Dassault Naval Group and Nexter by the way, with the Rafale, the Scorpene, and the Caesar.
Show me on a map where they're designed and built.
>France succeeds at something, /k/'s reaction:
>
ftfy
France (You) facilitate conflict for your own monetary gain and neo-collonial asperations. You routinely supply dictarorial regimes and supply the means for genocide. You habbitualy arm the enemies of the very alliances you yourself are part of. You are vile and traiterous, camouflaging with arrogance and pretense your total lack of morality.
>neo-collonial
>dictarorial
>habbitualy
>traiterous
Ya gotta go back and learn to english
Cool story Mamadou Kebabovitch from Bamako Oblast. Now go to the nearest Wagner recruitment office, they need more meat for the waves.
Also none of what you said is true but at this point I frankly wish it was.
the frogs have held strong to their "we need to be able to make everything ourselves or at the very worst with an other EU country" way of doing things
So they can sell you just about every weapon system you'd ever need, aside from rifles.
if you want quality and don't want to buy from the burgers the french are your one stop shop
Not surprising really, they max yield instead of volume by selling planes, boats, subs, radars, missiles and all sort of shit that cost billions a piece.
Psychic blowback from the bogdanoff brothers' death
Yeah. But that's only 5 F-35s.
Genuinely thought UK would be higher. Also I thought South Korea was starting to sell a bunch of shit?
>30% Europe
>41% USA
Well shit.
makes sense, the EU collectively has a smaller defense budget than the US
How much do the non-listed EU countries export? Netherlands has some warship production and Sweden is covering fields like aircraft and IFV. I'd expect Czechs and Poles to have at least a bit as well.
belgium has FN
there are also a lot of smaller high tech firms that produce components/sensors/upgrade kits ect
>France
colorie moi surpris
>usa is unreachable
>Russia is barely equal to France
>China is barely equal to Germany
>then you also have the UK, Italy and even fricking Spain
So much for the "Global" South.
Also kekking at Koreansisters lmao.
Post-invasion is even worse for Russia.
Isn't Türkiye also making a lot of deals nowadays?
Damn, look at you go worst korea, proud of you lil guys