Reflex Suppressors

What are the problems with this design? these seem neat on paper but I rarely see anyone use them.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They're heavier to a significant degree, and you still need roughly the same number of baffles and space out front to achieve similar suppression.
    The main benefit they offer is decreased backpressure, as your first baffle has huge expansion potential.
    I've shot reflex cans next to standard before, they both sounded close to each other, but you could definitely see the difference in gassing towards the shooter, much more pleasant with the reflex can.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This question got asked before and I vaguely remember a few other reasons, I suppose one practical one is that it's hard to know how much bare barrel or handguard inner diameter will exist on any given gun which might limit sales potential. The back pressure is true but advancing flow technology has also reduced its value. It's a good question though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure a flow through would just be better for this right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        except they don't suppress as well.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Except they suppress the best or near the best.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >same back pressure, worse suppression
            >that means it's better
            this is your brain on marketing wank.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >better suppression for less back pressure
              nice try baffleshill

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >They're heavier to a significant degree
      well duh they're also bigger and more effective and that's balanced by better weight distribution.

      the real reason you don't see many if them is compatability issues because the barrel contour can interfere with the suppressor.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a comparison picture of 16" upper with br reflex supressor and 12,5" upper. Nice and short, but I cant use that supressor on the shorter barrel, because there is not enough barrel in front of the gas block. So one size does not fit all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So one size does not fit all.
      This is probably the big fundamental. Reflex suppressors probably suffer on the American market in a similar way to integral suppressors or wipe based ones, in that all of them are punished harder by the NFA bullshit. When there's a $200 floor price and it takes 8-14 months to get a can, there is very very strong pressure on the market to produce single cans that will work with as wide an array of guns as possible and last a lifetime.

      So lots of designs that could do cool things but would need to be optimized around specific guns don't happen. While law reform would be nice I think the more likely hope is ever improving 3D printing. At some point even currently high end laser sintering systems may be something where at least a group would be able to go in together on one, like a gun club or range or even LGS. Then as long as you had a plan you could form 1 any unique design you wanted, and community can start building designs optimized to any gun in existence, no more need to worry about mass production.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        IDK Anon, SCOTUS has been making some pretty based decisions lately. I like to be optimistic. We may get something. I don't expect congress to do anything.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So one size does not fit all.
      I'm surprised it took so long for that to get mentioned.

      Pretty sure a flow through would just be better for this right?

      Better how? They'd fit more guns, but they already don't perform as well as normal suppressors which ought to be fricking obvious because they're flow-THROUGH, and they don't have as high internal volume either.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but they already don't perform as well as normal suppressors
        This is wrong though.
        >which ought to be fricking obvious because they're flow-THROUGH
        It's "obvious" to you because you're a moron anon. All gas comes out of a normal can too. What decides noise is how fast and turbulent. The only way to tell performance is to actually measure the results, though it could be predicted with good enough CFD. You've done neither nor ever looked.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How's the gas blowback? I was thinking of getting an Armase-T can for my 20" because I'm cheap

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's a lot gassier than that carbine lenght gas system upper, but i have shot that 16" setup for years whith no eye protection (dumb I know) and it's doable, but you will definetly notice it. I quess 20" rifle lenght gas system whith reflex will be tame enough for everybody. I have shot one with traditional supressor, but can't compare, because it's been awhile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neat.
      16"+reflex can is the same length as 12.5"+conventional can.
      Why do 12.5" barrel length exists again?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What are the problems with this design?
    - can't use them on pistols
    - can't use on tapered barrel (well, you can, but it's a bit)

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't really work with locking quick detachment, AR hand-guards can be in the way.
    They are the default in Europe on hunting-rifles, but on an AR-SBR the hand-guard tends to be in the way.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >substantially harder to manufacture
    >requires a collar to fit correctly (collar has to be profiled to the barrel)
    >Sensitive to distance between the muzzle and the gas block
    >fundamentally incompatible with QD
    They were a lot more common when we didn't understand fluid dynamics well enough that they were practically the only option for rifle suppressors; today we can make traditional cans good enough to not warrant needing a reflex can

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