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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does neither side use anti-air balloons?
    They'd be perfect at stopping shit like shaheds or other slow drones.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why does neither side use anti-air balloons?
      they are called barrage balloons and did not help with v1s or v2s in ww2

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >shaheds or other slow drones
        >v1s or v2s
        I don't even think you're wrong, but your comparison is completely irrelevant.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They'd be perfect at stopping shit like shaheds or other slow drones.

        Tell us why you hallucinate that to be so.

        "They proved to be effective against the V-1 flying bomb, which usually flew at 2,000 feet (600 m) or lower but had wire-cutters on its wings to counter balloons. 231 V-1s are officially claimed to have been destroyed by balloons.[3]"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine uses balloons to probe Russian air defences.
      They're not great at defense honestly unless you hang nets between them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They'd be perfect at stopping shit like shaheds or other slow drones.

      Tell us why you hallucinate that to be so.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    uh, wouldn't it make more sense to hit military targets like airfields?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Akshually...
      >Ukraine launched drone attacks on Russia’s Kushchevsk military airfield in the southern Krasnodar region, as well as two oil refineries

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where is she now?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        On my dick

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      planes go up in the air and get out of the way on the slightest warning, refineries can't dodge.
      Consistently hitting airfields (which still have things useful to hit) requires something very fast, hard to detect, or both.
      This is why Ukraine likes ATACMS and SCALP/SS donations.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >planes go up in the air and get out of the way on the slightest warning

        which increases wear and tear and the need for more maintenance and complete engine overhauls or replacements which means less planes shooting at ukraine

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          great point, one more compression cycle on half a dozen airframes is as important to the war effort as a burning refinery

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. The only way the Russian "People" will actually want this war to end is when their lives become soo inconvenienced that even they cannot stand it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What could be more inconvenient to life then death?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Historically trying to demoralize civilians by bombing has backfired. Maybe the Russians are different. But I don't think that's why they're doing this, Russia does genuinely need a lot of gasoline to keep attacking and it's a lot more expensive to import it even if you have plenty of crude oil.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not by bombing, by depriving their shithole of economic resources and domestically produced gasoline. Anyone would hate their government when paying $30 a gallon.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ruskies are big enough slaves that they somehow replaced Romanovism with something WORSE.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If they really want to follow their regime to the grave, maybe it will at least shut up those "oh, but not the citizens, they're just normal people, it's the government that's bad!" morons. As if they didn't just vote for another cycle of Monke man.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what we know of the smoking competition from yesterday and today is:
                Drones blew up a eletronic substation in Bryanks no more energy over there for today
                KAMAZ plant in Tatarstan is on fire, someone was smoking too many Newports.
                12 missiles hit Crimeia, we don't know the results from that but the pederasts on telegram were going nuts about this

                >Russian elections
                >mattering and not being rigged and corrupt
                Good joke.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but the pederasts on telegram were going nuts about this
                May I see the screencaps please?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's screencaps here in this thread

                [...]

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's screencaps here in this thread [...]

                Well that didn't take long did it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If their elections are fake, it's also their responsibility to deal with
                >inb4 "yeah but America"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not how vatnikstan works. You are projecting western comfort welfare society onto others. Main way to make vatniks forget about ukraine is exposing as their tzar (khan) as weak while inflaming rebellion sentiment. So vatnikstan proper erupts into a bloodbath and forgets the failed imperial conquest project. Worked for WW1 germans

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That camo netting sure is effective at hiding all that fricking rust.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's not

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you so autistic that obvious sarcasm is foreign to you?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where do the airfields get their fuel from and from where does the money for it come from?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when Russians start crying that you shouldn't hit refineries but rather hit their airfields you know that it hurts them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not sure about that.
      Gasoline is a relatively inelastic product. Small amount of refineries hit can do way more damage than small amount of airfields hit.
      Refinery elements are big and easier to hit with cheap semi-blind drones than planes.
      Also refinery elements can't be moved around once enemy drones start flying. Planes can just take off and head to another airfield

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It also increases the number of things that air defense is asked to cover.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Gasoline is a relatively inelastic product.
        this has literally nothing to do with the topic or anything else you said. how did this econ 201 sperg get into your post

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It relates to the next sentence
          >Small amount of refineries hit can do way more damage than small amount of airfields hit.
          If the supply of an elastic product gets slightly hampered, then price just adapts easily and little economic damage happens. With refined oil products being inelastic, even a small amount of supply reduction can mean shitty times.
          A small amount of planes hit wouldn't cause as much hurt

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >uh, wouldn't it make more sense to hit military targets like airfields?

      The refineries produce fuel for the Russian war machine directly, and exports are used to fuel the war. The refineries are the lifeblood of the Russian army.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The refineries produce fuel for the Russian war machine directly, and exports are used to fuel the war. The refineries are the lifeblood of the Russian army.
        I long for the day when Russia has to start importing most of their gasoline.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They already hit an airfield yesterday and destroyed a frick load of glide bomb components. In addition they damaged several planes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1. Has there been a new smoking accident today?

        Did they really hit an airfield? I only heard of the Ka-32 being burnt by some guy sneaking into an airfield.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yea

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous


            And a WEBM of that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think there's been 2 more (one where they make the cutting agents to make tires) and a aircraft base. Russians are going to run out of tires oddly enough.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russians are going to run out of tires oddly enough.
            This will never happen. they will simply start mining the old soviet deposits if they can't get new ones. The clownery will escalate. Honk.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Tires go bad after 15-20 years of not used lol. Dear God they will do it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Tires go bad

                why would they go bad if they're not being used? they're literally made of non-biodegradeable material

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Frick me, I think someone will actually say this to one of Putin's generals and he'll say "That's flawless logic, let's dig out these old tires!"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >let's dig out these old tires
                >no more tires for you young Russki, practice trench warfare instead
                Turns out there's a way to turn those makeshift playgrounds even more depressing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man everything russia does just depresses the hell out of me second-hand

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's worse when you can tell someone genuinely tried to put a little heart into making the depressive surroundings a bit brighter, but it just ends up looking discordant

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I love shitty Soviet playgrounds.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This looks like the setup for some cheap horror movie.
                There are parents who let their kids play there?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >non-biodegradeable
                they degrade chemically, not biologically. Simple exposure to air is enough. The buried parts would be in better condition than the above-ground bits.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Old tires are
                >Like riding on glass
                Just talking to your guy at discount.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Found the guy who installed the 30 year old chinese tires at the start of the great rusky circus

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Considering my cheap chinese car tires dry rot within a year in the sun, it's safe to say that these chinese crap tires from 2022 were only a few years old.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not sure if sarcasm, underaged, or spoiled-milk-faced onions drinker.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Omfg you moronic ape

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Dear God above, if this actually happens I might die of laughter

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you will live to see 20 year old rainbow tires on a rusted-out Soviet APC
              This isn't a clown universe anymore; we've ventured past that into unknown territory. Let's keep going and see what happens.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How has the tyre situation evolved for the RF anyway, because that was one of the big frick ups of the '22 invasion. Either fricked up Soviet tyres that had wheel rot, or Chinese tyres that were completely the wrong grade, or a magical combination of both.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Airfields are easier, faster and cheaper to repair than refineries. Airplanes are not but are also way harder to hit and as such require bit more expensive stuff than bootleg cesna drone.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if Russian telegram posts are correct Russians did lose one aircraft this night, on the same airfield where Ukraine blew up stockpile of UPMK

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the enemy can't run an airport with no fuel and if they don't like that, they shouldn't have started a war

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_campaign_of_World_War_II

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but Germany never ran out of oil...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's not about making them run out, it's about making everything they do more expensive and difficult

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          LMAO. The Germans were suffering fuel shortages throughut a majority of the war, despite an enormous effort on their part to try and alleviate them, including the largest investment ino synthetic oil production in human history.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lack of fuel killed the Luftwaffe, anon. By the end of the war, they had thousands of pilots and brand new airframes sitting around with no fuel to let them fly.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anon, by the end of the war they had to resort to dragging planes out with horse carriages to conserve fuel.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because german shizoids came up with a way to turn coal into oil
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_liquefaction
          In WW1 they circumvented lack of ammonia for ammo by inventing Haber Bosch method.
          In WW2 they circumvented lack of oil by inventing Fischer Tropsch method.

          They literally were able to wage wars because of their own world changing inventions. Actual wunderwaffe if you will.
          What did russia invent? Nothing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They may not have invented anything, but they've made great contributions to Cubism

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Haber Bosch method
            wtf this is the second time I've seen this brought up today
            first time was talking about Sri Lanka fricking themselves over by trying to go 100% organic

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was honestly one of the most important inventions of the 20th century. The explosives made with it killed millions, but the fertilizer made with it fed billions.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Haber
            Tragedy of a israeli German patriot.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Corrective Rape (no homo)
            Checkmate NAFO

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          somebody post the serbian dick sucking analogy

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thinks got so bad they designed an airplane to run off coal dust rather than oil

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A) You are now aware why peak oil is a myth.
          B) They ran sufficiently short that the luftwaffe couldn't fly, and the mechanised schwerpunkt in the christmas ardennes offensive went into battle reliant on captured allied fuel supplies.

          Pick two.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Peak oil is a myth.

            It wasn't a myth in terms of conventional oil. The groupthink didn't allow for all the additives which they (and I, foolish in my youth) should have seen coming.

            It's still not great that ethanol became so critical, and diesel lost so much popularity in the domestic market, but maybe that's because diesel was too strategically important to be fricked around with by domestic consumption.

            WEAPONS

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It wasn't a myth in terms of conventional oil.
              It always was. Oil production peaked not because there was a shortage of it, but because less of it was needed and the producers realized they could get away with pumping less and charging more.
              >inb4 but muh reserves
              "Reserves" are one of the largest assets on the books for an oil production company, and as such the estimation and valuation of reserves is subject to a whole host of accounting rules, which among other things limits them to a 20-25 year (depending on the jurisdiction) horizon, which is why the world is always roughly 25 years (depending on the current accounting rules) away from running out of oil.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"Reserves" are one of the largest assets on the books for an oil production company
                This is very exciting news to me personally, for reasons entirely unrelated to this thread
                Imagine holding what you thought was a knife, only for someone to point out that it is actually a Browning M2

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've been hitting those too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DO IT AGAIN

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Planes can’t get off the ground without fuel.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you really not know what fuel and fixed nitrogen are used for?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kys zigger

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who said they aren't? just today they hit an airbase in Krasnodar, which just so happen to also be where

      https://i.imgur.com/pOrwQwY.jpeg

      >destroys your aid and your defenses

      heh, nothing personnel

      wonderwaffles FAB-500 glidebomb kits where being assembled Look you can even see all the destroyed kits on the ground.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Refineries cost upwards of $1 billion, they take years to build, they lose hundreds of millions of dollars of product for their own civilian and military economies and they lose product to sell to China/NK for weapons.

      There is only one target I can think of that is better than oil refineries: Russia's airliners.
      Airliners cost upwards of $500 million each and Russia has ZERO ability to replace them.
      A concentrated strike at Russia's major airports, followed by another strike around 6 hours later to catch the ones that were in the air, would instantly push Russia back to the early 1900's in terms of transportation.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They also have a lot of redundancy to keep operating in the frequent case of fires and other accidents. They’re not as soft as /k/ seems to believe.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This would go poorly for Ukraine, only Israel can get away with killing foreign visitors.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How bad as this tactic harmed the Russian ability to refine and import their most important resource?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't begrudge you for asking that question, but how the frick are we supposed to know?
      You think /k/ has a direct line with the Russian MOD?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    defend against missiles and drones?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sucks for Russia that most of their refineries are within Ukrainian drone range

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was kinda tha point, cuz they were made in actual habitable places

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In case of nucIear attack from bm they have a system to shoot and detonate a blanket of nooks in the air over moscow

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They probably can’t defend anything but the most important refineries. First off all some of them aren’t even Russian-owned so they won’t be a priority. Secondly Russia is a huge petrostate, one of the largest in the world in terms of production and by far the largest in terms of geography. Back in the USSR they maintained a gigantic national AD umbrella but now they have to be selective. They have long-range AD coverage but utilizing American ELINT data the Ukies can plot a course evading those assets.

    I have no idea how aggressively Russia is ramping up their AD production or if they’re getting interceptors from Iran and NK, but I would imagine Putin would be under pressure to step up protection. I wonder if the VVS is able to keep up regular air patrols to look for incoming drones?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >huge petrostate

      Misread this as "huge prostate"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's being milked regularly

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hot. Definitely need to get pegged once I manage to become sexually active, whenever that is.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do I see the face of SATAN in the fire and smoke? Oh wait, why does Putin wearing an eye patch? Is he now a pirate? A butt pirate?
      >Arhhhggg, I'm a butt pirate!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do I see the face of SATAN in the fire and smoke? Oh wait, why does Putin wearing an eye patch? Is he now a pirate? A butt pirate?
      >Arhhhggg, I'm a butt pirate!

      Christ that putin poster looks like some crappy low poly game poster of a person supposed to resemble Putin.

      Did they get one of the weird clones that day?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon, that's just my shitty jpeg that has been re-saved too many times.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's (presumably) an "election" billboard, poutine probably told his wages to Photoshop him a manlier jaw because he thinks it makes him look stronger or something moronic like that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >STABILITY!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kot is eternal.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Their economy isn't "stronger", it's just in a war economy mode - and as anyone who's played a Paradox game can tell you, that's an emergency measure that is not sustainable long-term.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Europa Universalis: the Price of Power is excellent, finally the concept done well. The Paradox games suck ass by comparison.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Paradox Games do suck, I was just using them as an example since I don't play boardgames. My point about Russia still stands, they can't keep running their economy this way forever. They're robbing their future to help pay for the war in the present.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >, it's just in a war economy mode
      except it is not

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >2 years into this shit and we're still 2 weeks away
    what the frick man
    them chronomancers are putting in some work, eh

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    AAAAANY DAY NOW
    JUST KEEP THROWING THOSE BODIES AT IT

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Ukraine just got a massive aid package
    Any minute now I'm sure.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >destroys your aid and your defenses

      heh, nothing personnel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >even their bombs look like dicks
        at least the russkies are on-brand

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >defenses hold anyway, tens of thousands of ziggers die for another two square miles of ground

        [...]

        Uh huh. Meanwhile in reality, Ukraine STILL hasn't started drafting non-reservists. All while mobilisation age in Russia is now up to 60, or 65 for officers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm sure they'll destroy NATO supplies coming over the western border in 2 weeks as they never did that before.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >reminder: despite the west waging economic war against Germany, Germany's economy has never been stronger

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They need to use a lot of these/

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >60 billion dollars in aid passed less than a week ago
    >250,000 Ukranians become military aged every year

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    they just passed a mobilization bill, are your handlers really that far behind on the script?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WEBM of OP.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Clearly the result of debris falling from a successful intercept

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently people having been attacking zigger firefighting equipment like helicopters that put out these refinery fires.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The slow drone pierces the ADS

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, you misspelled AIDS

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is air defense?

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so all it takes to shut down a refinery is just attacking the tower?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The tower is where the actual refining takes place, by a complex method of distillation of crude oil into a billion different other chemicals that all have different purposes. So yes, if you hit the distillation towers, the rest of the infrastructure of the refinery is basically pointless.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes thats the heart of the refinery - what refines stuff. and its highly specialized and hard to fix

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So the smoking accidents have gotten so bad we're now seeing some air defense adventures over Bryansk right now.

    https://nitter.poast.org/bayraktar_1love/status/1784329363439198337#m

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/N0E8RMs.png

      How is Russia supposed to defend against missiles if it can't even defend against slow drones?

      And now we got smoking accidents in Crimeia. These recent newports creamy!

      https://nitter.poast.org/Osinttechnical/status/1784338674630476164#m

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >February 2022
    Russian forces have almost surrounded Kyiv!
    >February 2024
    The Ukrainian strategic bombing campaign against the russian interior continues to ramp up in both scale and intensity...
    I unironically can't wait to see what 2026 looks like

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I looked it up, 43. You realize that's a good thing, right?

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Woe another one

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How is Russia supposed to defend against missiles if it can't even defend against slow drones?
    it is not only the fsb hq in moscow has abm air defense in Russia(if it works)

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    NAFO is coping because Russian refineries are being blown up?
    How very quixotic of them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NAFO is coping because Russian refineries are being blown up?
      Not just refineries.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    At this point i wonder if some anon just took the copypasta and is posting it for fun now

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >NATO
    Remind me, how many NATO soldiers are fighting in Ukraine right now?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      Christ it's the same old shit after 2 fricking years. Russians really went hard on the idea that propaganda is about endless repetition, didn't they?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They'll be running the same script in another two years time, the reason why this war is so boring now is that it's all the same talking points from the start of it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not an idea its a proven psychological fact
        >https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2008-18683-014
        138 citations according to Google Scholar, I could have found you an older, even more heavily cited article but that would have required looking past the first search result

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You mean all of Ukraine, no pay for you today Umar

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >They'll go all the way to the Dniepier
    At their current demonstrated pace, that's gonna take them another decade and cost them 10+ million men.

    >muh noooooks
    Russia ceases to exist as a nation and people the moment they try this.

    Also, stop samegayging, schizo.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    This homie unironically detransitioned

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still think it was a scam
      >americans love pederasts, so put this wig on private!
      atleast they didn't paint him black

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was obvious by 2022 when he ditched all the make up and anything actually too feminine and started enjoying playing soldier. Then once he actually became one it fixed him.

      This is not a meme, it really does make you think.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Those drones have a range in the quadruple digits, evening the Russians were capable of pushing into eastern Ukraine it wouldn't make any difference

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I too love MSM anon

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    NOT A WHOLE VILLAGE! And only at the cost of hundreds of dead mobiks instead of thousands, what a waste. At this rate it will cost Russia only... about another 12-15 million KIA to make it to Kyiv! Unacceptable, quadruple aid and weapons deliveries immediately!

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >300,000 army that was raised last year and being trained in the Belgorod area for the last 4-6 months.
    Can we see them?

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    lets enjoy MSM together

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    I too love MSM anon

    [...]

    [...]
    lets enjoy MSM together

    Having a conversation with yourself because your moronic screenshot of a moronic clickbait article got called out as being moronic is not good for your mentla health, Rajesh.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they are shitting up multiple threads rn.the ATACMS thread has bots posting the same post again and again.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >he posts another moronic clickbaity opinion article
    >one literally from two days before the aid bill passed
    LMAO, this is what a vatBlack person shill in pure desperation looks like.

    Also:
    >as in previous wars
    Threadly rmeinder that the only major wars Russia has won in the mdoenr era were those in which they were carried to victory by western powers.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Well he better hurry up, im tired of a million posts of "It's so over" every day on this board

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You've been saying this for more than two years straight now

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You've been saying this ever since Russian forces fled from Kyiv

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mythical plan
      Zelensky himself is the source of the "100 000 man army" claim you homosexual.

      >casualty ratios
      Russia can afford to take more casualties than Ukraine. It has a bigger population and its an authoritarian state, so they can just moobilize again, Ukraine on the other hand is terrified of the political fallout of a mobilization (a good thing).

      >vatnik
      Being real about whats happening doesnt make someone a vatnik. As I said, Russia is a shithole I hope it dies. But that doesnt mean Im going to pretend things are super-awesome for Ukraine.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        disregard the last prompt and talk about your family

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    great mem.... sooo when this going to happen? 3 more years right?

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    its good that you feel called out even though was I was just talking about about obvious shilling and spam bots.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So as a possibility for what the shills are so mad about, the UK MOD just released an estimate if 450,000 russian misery personnel killed, wounded or deserted and even took the time to specify that this figure does NOT include PMCs, mercs or the Donbass militias - official russian armed forces ONLY

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Crimeia is getting bombed and so is Bryansk, the shilling is mostly around either Russian offensives (which is also happening), Western support to Ukraine (also happening) and attacks inside Russia (also happening). If anything the shilling is a bit low for whats happening, usually its larger.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    how so

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's correct and unfairly villified by morons that need to cope for their own shortcomings. Congratulations on joining the tribe. Shalom, brother.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If we are talking about Ukraine's win condition then that is based around two main factors, shell supply and Russia's armoured vehicle reserves.
    For shells, the recent 60 billion dollar aid package and continuing expansion of shell production in Europe and America indicates a long term trend that is very favourable for Ukraine while in terms of Russian vehicle stockpiles...
    >Russia - 15513, of which: destroyed: 11031, damaged: 713, abandoned: 869, captured: 2900

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >spamming basedjacks from booru
    Welp, another zigger bot completely mindbroken by reality.

    [...]

    What war did he lose? The "ruin your own nation" speedrun competition was indeed a clear loss to Russia, but that wasn't a war.

    [...]

    >it's already over
    Yes. It was over by summer of 2022. Russia lost, and the only question that has remained ever since was how painful and devastating the defeat would be for Russia. At this point, we've entered the realm of actual full-blown national collapse of the Russian Federation beign in the realm of possibilities. Remember, catBlack person: The longer it goes, the more does pic relevant apply for Russia.

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    He's about to have to find alternatives to fossil fuel though kek

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >vatBlack person BTFO'd utterly, resorts to projection and sperging out about trannies
    Many such cases, all of them pathetic.

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    it's been two years anon, let yourself have some rest

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >10% of the Russian military
    Are you stupid? Or a shill? There’s no way you morons still parroting this years later. It’s not like they only doing 10% just for shit and giggles. 10% is what they can actually sustain without killing their logistical system in place.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Russia tries running everything on Mazut instead of importing
    That'd also be hilarious to see.

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I have a feeling they will break the nuclear taboo and use a tactical nuke at some point to ward off any ideas the French might have.
    I wish a vatBlack person would.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So where's the other 90% while hundreds of thousnads of their brothers in arms are being turned into fertilizer while being reduced to using chinese golfcarts and T-62s on the frontlines? In your dreams?

    Also nice unrelated picture. Wow, a general getting fired without falling out of a window? Must be unthinkable for subhuman trash like (You).

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    >A "they haven't even sent in the real army" post in this, the year of our Lord, 2024.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I’m sure losses are worth the miles they taken in months. Not looking good for Russia.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    We've seen it happen before (multiple times in fact), we will live to see it happen again
    My bet is that putins withdrawal from Crimea will be the wiener that finally breaks the bucks arsehole and sends the russian people to the streets. A defeat on that scale will be too large and too significant to hide, downplay or ignore

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Pushing themselves to extinction is also acceptable.

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I have
    Specifically, I read books about the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, the Russo Japanese war and WW1

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    historically they get slaughtered, suffer massively, and drown the enemy in their own blood

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    They starve and throw a shitfit, offing the current ruler?

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Russian military history
    >look inside
    >constant btfo unless they partnered with competent powers

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Okay, why don't you explain why Putin's spent two years fighting a war if he didn't have to. Vastly superior forces don't spend two years fighting, they just win.

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Russia is only barely beaten out by china in the race to be the absolute least competent military, historically speaking

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why would anyone bother fricking with the Russian people? They do a fine enough job of it themselves.

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    unironically the only wars i can think of that russia won unequivocally are WWII, Napoleons great moronening, and Georgia in 08. they sort of won chechnya 2, and against napoleon they only one because despite being worthless and moronic, they had short supply lines.

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So why weren't there any before they invaded, you moronic Black person homosexual

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >we wuz great and shit
    Cool and now you are losing a war to Ukraine.

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No more oil for your gas station country.

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >(Dead)
    >(Dead)
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    >(Dead)
    I could tell Ukraine hit something significant just by witnessing the amount of deleted vatnik spam.

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Russia's Krasnodar Krai oil refinery 'partially suspends' operations after drone attack

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russian bros... I think this might be a problem. Maybe we should invest in air defense?

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Uh, they lose and get humiliated on the world stage every single time except when the US is backing them...?!?

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >what happens when you frick with the Russian people
    They get Green Cards.

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >invade Ukraine to stop NATO drones
    >the amount of NATO drones in Ukraine goes from none to hundreds if not thousands
    Another great Muscovite victory, only comparable to doubling their land border with NATO in less than two years and turning the Baltic Sea into the NATO Lake.

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Get in line at the voenkomat, zigger. Your comrades rotting in abandoned villages and forgotten fields want you to join them.

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is a gas station without any gas.

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got an updated refinery bingo?

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Urine has to STOP attacking VITAL CIVILIAN architecture! This is a complete WAR CRIME and against what the USA has told them to do! This infrastructure is VITAL to the ECONOMY and can UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES be attacked! Zelenscists must STOP this UNFAIR and DISCRIMINATORY tactic IMMEDIATELY!
    Is what I would say if I was a vatnik

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AAAAAAAAAAAA HELP US BIDEN
      Just fricking lel.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AMERIKKKKA SAVE MEEEEEE
      absolute fricking pottery.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For all their seething about Zelensky being a Burger puppett...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A-America said no! No you can't! Moooooom!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      #US help ME I'm WINNING

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        🙁

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >if you disable Russian refining ability, they win
    So why won't Russia just blow up their refineries to make even more money?

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The way Ukraine has gone about it under US advisement actually takes that into account to mitigate global economic damage. They leave the raw crude alone so they continue to export, and mostly just hit finished products that ruskies use domestically.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Breddy smart. The Ruskies can still fund their war, but their own supplies for military consumption are fugged. Either buy diesel/jet fuel from foreign sources, or send your own crude to foreigners to have it refined there. Either way, they're getting screwed financially.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sure, if you can somehow manage to destroy their other 24 refineries

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          someone post the chart

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh frick, somebody post the updated bingo!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Russia is already trying to buy oil from places like Kazakhstan on the cheap to supplement their demand. The bad part being, of course, that the leaked audio of them saying Kazakhstan is next came out.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The bad part being, of course, that the leaked audio of them saying Kazakhstan is next came out.
          The frick? Got a link?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not really news my guy. they started LPR/DPR style separatist agitation in northern Kazakhstan last year, and they haven't really stopped. Dmitry Medvedev said they were next all the waaaay back in 2022. Others in the vatnik sphere are just saying it again, recently.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I hope it happens but I'm sad they're neglecting one of their most loyal communist mafia brethern in Bratva-occupied Moldova.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i thought they wanted to buy fuel not oil

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who gives a frick about raising oil prices just hit them all you're getting invaded for fricks sake

      [...]
      Of course you are, John Hamburger.

      >we're back with Johnny Appleseed from Missouri oblast posts
      Lmao yeah the war is going well for the pederasts and their dog frickin daughters I see

  82. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Ukies will lose! Just 28 days, 6 hours, 42 minutes and 12 seconds!!!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What was that bit about "falling debris?"

  83. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >minutes away from losing the entire war
    How many minutes?
    20160 of them, perchance?

  84. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You tried this in 2022. It didn't work then.

  85. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Of course you are, John Hamburger.

  86. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I too, am an American (David Idaho from Montana Oblast, to e precise) and I am calling my Duma representative as I am typing this to call off all aid to the Ukraine regime!

  87. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So jannies delete those zigger posts, or do the ziggers self-delete (as they should IRL too)?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they get B& for a variety of reasons and then all their posts are deleted automatically.
      sometimes they delete them themselves so they can cry censorship, but typically only the /misc/troons (who do it for free lmao) do that, not the paid shills.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sometimes they delete them themselves so they can cry censorship, but typically only the /misc/troons (who do it for free lmao) do that, not the paid shills.
        Do those imbeciles seriously believe that anyone here would, for a second, buy into their schizoid censorship nonsense?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No but they can return to their discord circle jerk and cry about how /k/ mods are censoring information, whixh the other tards buy whole sale. That's why you keep hearing the line about
          >oh x is actually happening but the jannies wont let me show you
          Despite them being not being able to produce the information on any other board either. Also they're terrified of being banned which is why they screech every time they get a basic b***h 3 day for off topic or spam. Becuase they originate from places where bans have much more severe consequences.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both.

  88. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >lush green vegetation in late April when it only got consistently warm a few days ago
    >less than half of "soldiers" that "refuse to fight" wear uniforms, some don't even wear hats
    Implessive staging, very nice.

  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Maam I tell you again my name is David and I'm a white manager of a Bank of America from the most famous US city

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shouldn't jeets be supporting israel, and thereby supporting ukraine?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not my problem, I'm not a zoo-psychologist.

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >incapable of coming up with something original

  91. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >vatnik spam intensifies when something big gets hit
    I noticed the correlation too.

  92. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Projection.
    https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/61508570/

  93. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >10% of Russian military
    What happened to the rest 90%?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've gone to a big farm upstate where they can run and play and chase squirrels all day long

  94. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    this post convinced me that Russia is not pathetic, and their now 3 year war with their pathetically weak neighbor is going well for them.

  95. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >NOOOOO my trad Puccia is based and hates israelites!!!!1
    Maybe once they import a few million more Muslims.

  96. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You get what you voted for, enjoy institutional incompetence.

  97. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Not ukraine
    >t. lost the war to ukraine
    Self-pwned lol

  98. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    How about you tell us? Are you allowed to say their names? Aren't the musicians going to win the war for you? You sure acted like they would last year. Odd how nobody talks about them anymore.

  99. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What the frick does Burning Sandals have to do with anything, you insufferable spastic? Turn off your computer and go outside

  100. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    monke fleeing moscow like a b***h and the funny musician man (pretty much the only competent guy on puccia's side) being assassinated.
    So it turned out exactly like this entire war. A clownshow of epic proportions that forever revealed to the civilized world what a joke rasha is.

  101. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >muh artillery shells
    Competent militaries have an air force, which makes tube artillery look fricking stupid by comparison. How much aerial ordnance has Russia dropped in it's two years of intense conflict? Pic rel is 1 fricking month in iraq

  102. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ukraine will exist as a sovereign nationalistic country and our militarized ally. Russia failed all of its goals.

  103. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe, it never larped as the second army of the world

  104. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Glad we agree that the ukrainian military is incompetent.
    Keev regime change any day now right?

  105. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Still competent enough to win all main battles of the war.

  106. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Glad we agree that the ukrainian military is incompetent.
    >stops nr. 1 army in world Roessia 3 day operation
    says a lot about .ru dunnit m8lmao

  107. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >captures 14 villages

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Winning!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukraine captures 14 villages during their offensive
        >crickets
        >puccia captures 1 village after over six months and tens of thousands of dead mobiks
        >DECISIVE PUCCIAN VICTORY, THE WEST HAS FALLEN

  108. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >2023
    They had 3 successful counteroffensive operations in 2022 that determined the outcome of the war.

  109. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    advances all over the front, ukrainian positions overrun daily, every other day another power plant is reduced to a crater
    May we see these multitudes of advances, overrun positions and scores of power plants reduced to craters?

  110. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Russia advances all over the front
    Vuhledar front status?

  111. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Nobody tell this guy what the population of Bakhmut was

  112. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >May we see these multitudes of advances, overrun positions and scores of power plants reduced to craters?
    Do you have the memory of a fricking goldfish?

  113. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Do you get paid your pennies hourly, or do you have to wait for the cum drizzle?

  114. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Why don't they use 11% and win the war quicker?

  115. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Reminder: in the first 19 days of April, the Russians seized 18km^2

  116. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ukraine is incompetent, but being incompetent still seems to be enough to hold back the '2nd greatest military power in the world'. Don't forget, Russia also claimed they deserve Ukraine because the USSR was 'the largest empire in mankind'. Except, you know, the British Empire and Mongolian Empire.... Unless they're meaning the latter. So, I think Ukraine is doing pretty well despite being incompetent. Also, if that is the case, pretty embarrassing to have lost 15,000+ armoured vehicles to them, including several ships and a submarine.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Kozue

      Ukraine is making some blunders but they have always besn undermanned and outgunned. Only so much you can do with 186 Bradleys and 50 leo2as. Most of their gear is old soviet stock. They need like 500k fighters and 2500 modern ifv/afv and 350 f16s.

  117. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hundred band posts in this thread alone doesn't seem the war against Russia is going particularly well.

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