redpill me on these

redpill me on these
first heard of em about a year ago and recently had a water heater issue so I suggested to replace it as well and all I hear is crickets.
My family has a business of rental units and maybe 15 water heaters total, and they have never done them ever. should I go replace all of them, or is it risky on the older ones to try? some of them are 15 years old if not a lil more

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous
  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'll never get a straight answer because plumbers want to sell you a new water heater.

    They will also tell you don't do it because you'll break the nipple off and need to replace the hearer anyway

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    if the anode can be replaced there will be an access cover above where it is installed.

    >15 years old
    wow, I've never had a water heater last more than 13 years.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair the mineral quantity in your water has a critical effect on it, as well as the chemicals they put in the water
      for a good span of 6 years we had about 5 heater failures and probably 10+ pipe failures in this one unit and I am pretty fricking convinced the water supply was fricked up because after a point zero issues occurred after, though we had to replumb the entire main water supply still

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        Take the old anode out and see if there's any metal left. If there's still aluminum/magnesium left then changing it wont do anything. If it's gone then you could give it a shot, you won't make things any worse. But as others have said, your tank is old enough that you oughta start thinking about replacing it anyway.

        >after a point zero issues occurred after, though we had to replumb the entire main water supply still
        Sounds like there was an incompatible metal fitting causing galvanic corrosion. That stuff absolutely destroys pipes.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      We replaced our 20 year old water heater this past winter. It was a trooper. Man who did that install did a good job. They also don't make water heaters like that anymore.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      We replaced our 20 year old water heater this past winter. It was a trooper. Man who did that install did a good job. They also don't make water heaters like that anymore.

      I have one from the 80s still in service

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just replaced my 25 year old heater that was installed when my house was built.

      • 8 months ago
        Bepis

        If you change the anode and it doesn’t rust out, there’s not much that can go wrong, heating elements and thermostats are cheap, and replace any leaky fittings with new ones and fresh thread tape. Sounds like maybe anon has plumbers come by who sell him a new water heater every 8 years because efficiency or some bullshit and they make more money with a new one.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          agreed, op is a shit tard

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get the magnesium one and not the aluminum one.
    In case you accidentally drink the hot water.
    And you don’t want Alzheimer's.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, good man anon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do people still believe that aluminium/Alzheimer shit?

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's hard to keep track of all the israeli psyops and government disinformation scams.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          go leave

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wherever I am there is also /misc/ you troony

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            > everything I don't like is /misc/
            it's MA'AM, the post

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        It’s the precautionary principle.
        If you have two more or less equal choices, you might was well take the known safer route.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        you'd be surprised, despite the researcher who made the connection being exposed as fraud last year

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          "exposed as a fraud" as in someone proved the obvious that the aluminum adjutant in vaccines can't be linked to health outcomes because drinking 1 can of soda exposes you to more aluminum than a lifetime of vaccines;

          or "exposed as a fraud" as in someone proved aluminum is safe in general, because those are not the same statement and one would be bullshit

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alzheimer aluminum was always about anti perspiration and maybe food contact. Never heard anything about vaccines

            All researchers are frauds. Fucj science

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Injected micronized aluminium adjuvant, vs some alleged ingested aluminium (cans are lined, have been for decades). An additive designed to irritate the immune system vs particles that get pooped out.

            Also this should go without saying but since it's PrepHole, make sure you turn the heater off and let it cool down to a safe temperature/pressure before monkeying with it. Good idea to slap some eyepro on just in case when dealing with anything that could be pressurized, too.

            And drain the tank. It's good because it gives you an idea what's going on inside, besides the condition of the anode. And yes, magnesium is softer than say zinc, but if the tanks are lasting 15 years, then you should get a pretty good run out of a mag rod. If you do change them, check one of them after 1 year to see the condition.
            If the tank is above ground, draining is easy. If you can't gravity feed the outlet, well... you can get an airchuck adapter and pressurize the hot water outlet port (should be the shorter of the two dip tubes). They use those adapters for RV's and trailers when you want to purge the water system. It'll be 3/4 garden hose, so you'll need to grab an adapter to 3/4 NPT.

            if the anode can be replaced there will be an access cover above where it is installed.

            >15 years old
            wow, I've never had a water heater last more than 13 years.

            Look for a hex nut head, recessed, between the cold and hot, offset from center.

            If the tank is more than a couple years old don't frick with it. The anodes get corroded into place and are a motherfricker to remove. If you're going to regularly replace anodes or flush tanks do it from the beginning or don't do it at all.

            [...]
            You got that backwards cheif. Magnesium for city water, aluminum or alloy for well water. Magnesium rods on well water will cause sulphur smells.

            [...]
            They're very expensive and difficult to service. The 25 year warranties are on the heat exchangers only, other parts are 5 years or less. You don't need a tankless unless you have a huge family taking a lot of showers or you need to fill a jacuzzi or something. If you insist on getting one make sure the installer adds isolation valves so you can chemically flush it once a year.

            Yea, I expect this w the age of those heaters. If they haven't already been regularly serviced, at that age it's probably too late.

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              They find aluminum in the plaques in the brains of Alzheimers patients.
              If you don’t consume aluminum, it can’t make the plaque. Simple as.
              Your body cannot synthesize an element. A star can, but that’s about it.
              The linings of cans have BPA… out of the frying pan and into the fire I guess.
              Anyway, if you can avoid aluminum in your drinking water, do so.
              What’s the RDA of aluminum? Zero. unlike zinc, magnesium, copper, etc.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                ???
                Are you a waste of skin ironically? Please tell me this is a bit. For your next trick, i suppose you'll claim a descaling agent like vinegar can remove the aluminum, and cure the disease.
                Ps you type like you already have aluminum in your brain.

              • 8 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm the tard he was replying to. We're not interested in your 'opinion', as it's just repeated mainstream garbage. The adjuvants and other things (fluoride) make people dumb as frick, and... it shows.

                They find aluminum in the plaques in the brains of Alzheimers patients.
                If you don’t consume aluminum, it can’t make the plaque. Simple as.
                Your body cannot synthesize an element. A star can, but that’s about it.
                The linings of cans have BPA… out of the frying pan and into the fire I guess.
                Anyway, if you can avoid aluminum in your drinking water, do so.
                What’s the RDA of aluminum? Zero. unlike zinc, magnesium, copper, etc.

                Yes, more or less. I mean I am not personally consuming too many canned items, e.g. in soda cans, but 100% your bev is in contact with the liner, not the outer can. There's a vid on youtube where the can is dissolved, leaving only the liner, and the liquid stays inside. Whether that's BPA-free, there was already a big outcry about BPA. However, even BPA-free doesn't account for other estrogenic plastic compounds, that leach out of unstabilized plastic (PEX is an example of stabilized). The paper authors stated it would be trivial to add stabilizers so plastic did not leach, but there seems to be no interest, because consuming that type of thing contributes to dumbing down the population and turning them into grey blobs that can merely regurgitate what they were told to remember to keep their paycheck.

                Elderly are getting the micronized aluminium via yearly flu shots. That's specifically the type of aluminium, the kind in the shots, that can pass through the blood-brain barrier.

                Thanks for attending my TedK.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        you'd be surprised, despite the researcher who made the connection being exposed as fraud last year

        Wait the aluminum/Alzheimer's thing is probably not true? Thank frick, I've just kinda been expecting to lose it eventually after many years of doing sketchy shit off foil.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          the plaque in the brain contains aluminium in small quantities, thats a fact. But that plaque being responsible for the illness and not being a symptom is not. A drug trial targeting that plaque proofed that.
          In a healthy human nearly everything you ingest from food gets filtered by the kidneys

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >from food
            Ok, say you went through a phase in life where you used foil to vape decent quantities of research chemical stimulants for a couple years, and maybe some heroin from time to time?

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              yea i believe the foil is the least of your concerns

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            the "study" about a correlation of aluminum and alzheimer's was a total fabrication.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >sketchy shit off foil
          Inhaling it is probably a different story, anon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If the tank is more than a couple years old don't frick with it. The anodes get corroded into place and are a motherfricker to remove. If you're going to regularly replace anodes or flush tanks do it from the beginning or don't do it at all.

      This, good man anon.

      You got that backwards cheif. Magnesium for city water, aluminum or alloy for well water. Magnesium rods on well water will cause sulphur smells.

      What’s the verdict on tankless? I have a plumber I like who recommended it, his main argument is they come with 25 year warranties rather than the standard 7, pretty good argument. I don’t need a new one yet but everything else is falling apart so I’m guessing it will go soon.

      They're very expensive and difficult to service. The 25 year warranties are on the heat exchangers only, other parts are 5 years or less. You don't need a tankless unless you have a huge family taking a lot of showers or you need to fill a jacuzzi or something. If you insist on getting one make sure the installer adds isolation valves so you can chemically flush it once a year.

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also this should go without saying but since it's PrepHole, make sure you turn the heater off and let it cool down to a safe temperature/pressure before monkeying with it. Good idea to slap some eyepro on just in case when dealing with anything that could be pressurized, too.

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The tank in the house I bought hadn't been changed in over a decade and the sediment was insane, and there was almost no anode left. Flushed the tank and replaced the anode and the tank began leaking about a month later. probably should have just replaced the thing when I saw what came out. Now I drain the sediment yearly and check the anode while i'm at it.

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    What’s the verdict on tankless? I have a plumber I like who recommended it, his main argument is they come with 25 year warranties rather than the standard 7, pretty good argument. I don’t need a new one yet but everything else is falling apart so I’m guessing it will go soon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are fine if you don't have hard water in your area. Otherwise, you need to descale the heat exchanger one or two times a year. Also, you need a 2 psig gas meter and lines.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you have gas i like them. Installed mine like 7 years ago. Never run out of hot water. I dont pay anyone else to install anything, if you dont work on things yourself maybe get a standard one.

  8. 8 months ago
    Bepis

    >15 year old anode
    You better have a real long cheater bar or big ugga dugga.

    The rest, just listen to the others. It’s going to make them last longer before leaking.

    If there’s a bunch of old heaters, when was the last time you flushed any of them?

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The jelly created by anodes is disgusting. I let mine go and never replace them. I would rather prematurely replace water heaters than drink water knowing the jelly is in there.

    Then read about the link between Alzheimer's and aluminum.

    That being said, what are your tenants like?

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you drinking hot tank water ever?

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >My family has a business of rental units
    Leach on society

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's code in some jurisdictions so your tanks don't get eaten out. Tanks without them are considered defects in need of correcting.

    t. Home inspector.

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