Real talk, how are all the lend-lease vehicles going to be replaced now that the industrial bases of most western nations have been exported to China? This could spill over into a nuclear WW3, not over Ukraine itself, but rather in the face of the NATO equipment shortage making the Poles and Finns look like tempting targets.
>Real talk,
eat a dick pidor
Its over.
Western Nations build their military vehicles domestically, not sure about how many parts these vehicles use can be produced domestically though.
but yeah it's moronic, we never should've send anything to Ukraine and just let the Russians steamroll it instead of artificially prolong the war.
>but yeah it's moronic, we never should've send anything to Ukraine and just let the Russians steamroll it instead of artificially prolong the war.
yea idk chief i think russia slowly grinding their way through the entire nation, getting rid of partisans and then finally genociding the population would take a lot longer than whatever is happening right now
>getting rid of partisans
Hundreds of thousands won't die from that like you're seeing now.
>genociding the population
That would never happen holy shit turn the TV off
>That would never happen holy shit turn the TV off
they've already done it though
>nuh uh
nope, you're wrong and likely a vatnik shill. good bye
The US alone has 7000 bradleys kitted with fancy western optics and 20,000 mraps that could be used for mine clearing.
>the industrial bases of most western nations have been exported to China
Where do you think us tanks are produced?
anon, that anon is midwit
understanding production shouldnt be in china but not understanding its nearly exclusively consumer/electronic consumer goods
they’re military vehicles, not fricking iphones. they’re not made in china
By getting a new industrial base and in doing so also reducing unemployment and remaking the middle class.
Apart from that in reality you are also full of bs because the military industrial bases havent been exported. It is the one industry that is still very very local (esp the US one)
>This isn't the 1940s where every cannery can be tooled for pumping out Shermans.
You are correct but these vehicles are still produced domestically.
>the factories don't exist for it
Doesn't matter
Total war is no longer an option with a nuclear nation
The west offshored production of cheap consumer knicknacks, generally not heavy industry and definitely not military industry.
And what heavy industry was offshored went to Japan (an ally), not China.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. F-35s were found to be made of chinese components last year. Chinese ZPMC cranes were used in the construction of British carriers and countless other ships since they're also operated in US ports used by the military. And ZPMC isn't exactly cheap consumer knickknacks, they manufacture something like 75% of all the world's construction cranes. Go down the subcontracting rabbit hole far enough and you're bound to find something of chinese origin in the whole network
Jesus frickign christ again with this bullshit talking point chang. Whena re you riccels going to have a nice day, can you not throw yourself out of your fricking wumao phonepit because of suicide nets?
You're not gonna get laid or own property, you live in china lmao
Damn, did not know the pentagon themselves was a bullshit talking point made up of wumao ricecels.
Naturally, and nonetheless, i will have to concede that you are expert at the subject matter, and know more than the pentagon, so I will trust your judgment.
moron. Critical components are made in the US. For example, the stealth, airframe, and engines are produced domestically.
Magnets are planned to produce domestically in the near future and at that point, all lines now are basically secured.
Magnets. Seriously. Majority are domestic with remaining coming from European countries. The more vital components are domestically produced. You are making a mountain out of a molehill.
And that is also further than the truth what OP is trying to portray and actually moving the goalpost.
And you have complete and total scientific proof that whatever Chinese factory is the only place on the entire planet that those components can be made?
That the US cannot just, you know, 3D print the fricking components themselves, no China and only China knows how to make them.
Stop kidding yourself.
>Real talk, how are all the lend-lease vehicles going to be replaced now that the industrial bases of most western nations have been exported to China?
No European or NATO country is idiotic enough to ship their MIC to China, you colossal moron. Fricking Black person-tier thread.
Also, the MIC is a huge employer and source of revenue for some countries especially with the US.
The actual answer is that America will cover it. As long as they don't have the mindset of a twitter concern troll or a shitposter salivating at the thought of the same attack being filmed from yet another angle.
>Real talk, how are all the lend-lease vehicles going to be replaced now that the industrial bases of most western nations have been exported to China?
Real answer, no military factories have been exported to China, everything has been and continues to be built in-house.
>This could spill over into a nuclear WW3
If they are suicidal then yes.
>but rather in the face of the NATO equipment shortage making the Poles and Finns look like tempting targets.
By whom exactly. China is too far away and the Russian army was unimpressive before it was mangled in Ukraine.
If the us blows through the stockpile of armor that it already has you should be worrying about finding clean water and fresh food
>only 1/20 afghanistans spent
>50% of territory already liberated
>10km penetration into russian lines a fourth time
zsisters...
>"2100 billions"
These heavy vehicles were only ever going to be used to fight the Russians. If you say they may be used to fight the Chinese, the West is not going to fight a continental land war against China it'll all be naval and air with maybe some island fights. Right now Russia is being eliminated as a threat and Western soldiers aren't even in harms way; things literally couldn't be going better.
Consumption creates demand.
Did you respond to the wrong comment? Taiwan was not mentioned at all.
This is how idiotic your average Russian is. They're so poorly educated and uncultured idiots that they actually believe that Europe's MIC has shipped all their factories to China. A nation of morons governed by gangsters and protected by illiterate rapists.
From Finland and Poland yes.
Taiwan will entirely be decided by if they can land on the island, get a foothold and keep a supply route to the mainland. If they can it will fall, if not then it won't.
>big country invades it's tiny neighbor
>most of the entire western world sanctions them to hell and back and starts (eventually) shipping the smaller country fighter jets and tanks
Yeah China cannot fricking wait to roll over Taiwan in a week while the effeminate west pisses itself at the might of the multipolar world order. Get real Rajneesh.
>brink of civil war since 2016
/pol/tard spotted, opinion disregarded
>A-AMERICA CIVIL WAR COMING UP!!!
yeah yeah we know that russia and china's cold war strategy was the balkanize the US, and it never works because a majority of americans have food and too many weapons for the government to try a mass confiscation
>Real talk, how are all the lend-lease vehicles going to be replaced now that the industrial bases of most western nations have been exported to China?
You stupid bootlipped norilla gigger your premise is a moronic lie. This is a boon and replacement is long overdue. Killing Russians while flushing obsolete equipment and sustaining no NATO losses is glorious.
Weapons are for killing Russians who defile this weapons board. Every day more Russians die at nil cost to civilization. This is unqualified good.
lets not kid ourselves and using the same "ITS OUR OLD EQUIPMENT" cope that vatniks used. What is valuable is that we can create infinite amounts of modern gear with constant improvements based on testing against a military like Russia that at least is at late 80's-90's level tech. Every leopard that does get destroyed gets replaced by another that has actual improvements
there is absolutely value in sending old stockpiles of vehicles to Ukraine instead of storing and then disposing of them because the former is much cheaper than the latter
this is why we saw so much old stuff go to Ukraine in the early stages of the war; old shells, old AGTMs, old nods and chest rigs, gavins and humvees, etc, etc
replacing that stuff with new gear now is cheaper than keeping the old gear around and replacing it later as well as having the added bonus of improving readiness
>gavins
Stupid SparksBlack person
>You do realize we've been on the brink of a fricking civil war since 2016?
Children are so cute. Get off the internet for a while.
Wild speculation. Calm down. Embrace chaos as an opportunity.
>we've been on the brink of a fricking civil war since 2016?
Imagine being this sheltered and naive. The problems in the US look downright utopian compared to most countries on Earth. It aint gonna happen.
>You do realize we've been on the brink of a fricking civil war since 2016?
Not yet, but we're getting there.
>W-WE HAVE BEEN PREPPING!
ATF literally cant do shit and their moronic gun brace ban flopped hard. now they are in court where most pf their work for the past decade is loking to be completely scrapped
Magical things known as factories and money
>we've been prepping for this shit since before you came to shit up our board?
Literal dozens of people having been plotting. Civil war imminent!
name one leopard tank manufacturing facility that is located in China
moron
Leopard bros...
Apologize
I APOROGIZE
>but rather in the face of the NATO equipment shortage making the Poles and Finns look like tempting targets.
Targets for who? Russia? Hahahahahahaha. kek O my sides. The vatBlack folk are having psychotic delusions of pomposity and power again. Current day Russia is the equivalent of a piss soaked tramp who is so insane he believes he's' Napoleon or God. OP your piss stained tramp of a country is primarily a threat to itself. Laughing stock of the globe. The nation of moronic idiots. Little Russia that can't make a car and its insane dictators and corruptions and gangsters. That failed state place that keeps threatening nuclear war filled with morons with the joke military and economy and crumbling roads. One of its imamates is loose on the internets again with delusions of grandeur and talking about ladaland invading the EU and NATO. Priceless clownery. Its fantastic the Ukrainians' are killing them.
Despite rumors to the contrary, America is still an industrial powerhouse. We have much work to do in rebuilding our former glory, but America does still build things.
Like statues worshipping criminal Black folk
Just because you can't produce something of value to be proud of doesn't mean the rest of us don't. Learn a useful skill. Contribute.
>now that the industrial bases of most western nations have been exported to China
Western military industry is alive and well, moron.
>making the Poles and Finns look like tempting targets
To who? Reminder that the Russian Army is being exterminated in Ukraine and will not be a relevant fighting force for decades to come thanks to the virtually complete de-industrialisation of Russia over the last ~25 years.
>Which are not infinite, moron, even for us.
The us is in the us they say here in the USA and EU oblasts. Da.
>humiliation of Afghanistan
I'm willing to bet money you couldn't go out on the street and find me ten Americans who can even point to Afghanistan on a map
This makes me angry because its fricking true. Especially americans that are of fighting age right now.
>We can't go on a total war footing anymore
We weren't able to go on a total war footing in 1939. Or 1916. Shit even looked grim during Korea. Guess what happened?
>How many billions do you feel we need to leave behind in shithole countries before you're fricking satisfied?
depends, how many more russians are there alive?
>You do realize we've been on the brink of a fricking civil war since 2016?
I'm old enough to know we were on the brink of civil war after Ruby Ridge and the LA riots in 1992. And Waco in 1993. And Columbine and Y2K in 1999. And Bush being elected and Elian Gonzalez in 2000. And 9/11 in 2001. And Obama being elected in 2008. And Sandy Hook in 2012. What's really interesting is that you read old magazines and apparently we were on the brink of civil war after the zoot suit riots, the Kennedy assassination, Vietnam, the other Kennedy assassination, Watergate, the gas crisis, Iran-Contra, the Iran Hostage crisis, and a bunch of other things I'm forgetting. But this time it's for real. Boogaloo incoming, time to stock up and hunker down.
>and Y2K
kek, made me laugh so hard my fat head hurts now
In 2017 I bought an unused water cooled Honda generator from a rich guy who bought it in 1999 because he thought the grid would go down for months. I paid $100 for the thing and sold it for $1100 a week later.
morons need something to worry over in first world nations
all the muh civil war posting is from morons on all sides completely not understanding what lead to the Civil War in the first place. Americans now are far to similar to each other in living standards to actually justify a civil war, meanwhile in the actual Civil war, the North and South were two complete opposites of each other with the North being almost entirely industrial or industrializing while the south was plantations and pseudo-medieval townships
there have been several recent states rights wins on massive moral issues (abortion chief among them) and there aren't any catastrophic tariffs to wank over, we are further away from an actual real civil war than we have been in decades
anyway, shit thread, Russia has shown how fast a de-industrialized rump state can re-industrialize with the rapid scaling of mediocre tank production (contrasting pre-war where they were unironically making fewer new tanks than the US was making abrams)
Yes also civil war is fun. Consider that! In my oblast I think of all the things I do not like that make me angry about other American! So many things! Like family member who told joke about me and everyone laugh. In civil war I may shoot. Civil war, a fun time for every American to be having over anything that they feel slightly angry over. Yes indeed. Now you say Russia is miracle recovery of wonderful Main Battle Tank Manufacture. Who is surprised! The Russia is ingenious and is impossible to defeat. Listen to wise words of President Putin. I believe kansas oblast should be doing a succession for many reaons. I even give iv8888 money to make civil war video and he do! Haha! See? Nothing can stand against kremlin. Consider the surrender.
>Americans now are far to similar to each other in living standards
Black person, Cletus in a trailer home in Tennessee is closer to jamal in the hood in New York are in closer living standards then Joseph in the north and Joseph in the south were during the actual Civil War period. you have to be have a nice dayingly moronic to think otherwise
>Cletus in a trailer home in Tennessee is closer to jamal in the hood in New York are in closer living standards then Joseph in the north and Joseph in the south were during the actual Civil War period
And yet they hate each other far more than both Josephs hated each other in the 1860s.
I don't think we'll see an actual sequel of Civil War with millions of people killing each other on the battlefields, but the "Cold" Civil War is already a thing. Conservatives vs. liberals, whites vs. everyone else, Christians vs. atheists, boomers vs. millennials -- this country has too many internal conflicts and divisions to continue business as usual. Maybe we really do need some kind of national divorce, as MTG suggests? Maybe it's time to voluntarily divide the country to prevent any possible violence and avoid unnecessary casualties?
>And yet they hate each other far more than both Josephs hated each other in the 1860s
clearly you never actually read about the civil war. The North and South despised each other to a point where it looked more like the Balkans conflict with calls of mutual extinction. only a moronic homosexual would think that America is anywhere near that
>The North and South despised each other to a point where it looked more like the Balkans conflict with calls of mutual extinction.
Just like Republicans and Democrats despise each other today, then?
The differences aren't as small as you make it seem. The urban / rural divide is one such division that has only grown wider with time, and with it, divisions in culture, values, and politics continue to grow, further inflamed by traditional and new (social) media. A civil war is a very real possibility in that context
>urban / rural divide
you dont live in america do you?
The Feds are openly violating Federal law and ushering in a foreign invasion, thereby violating US immigration law, omitting seditious conspiracy, and violating Article 4 all at the same time. That's kind of new you have to admit, you loud stupid complacent boomer frickstain. May you be raped to death by cholos in your living room.
>The Feds are openly violating Federal law and ushering in a foreign invasion, thereby violating US immigration law, omitting seditious conspiracy, and violating Article 4 all at the same time. That's kind of new you have to admit, you loud stupid complacent boomer frickstain. May you be raped to death by cholos in your living room.
if china acts up then there's bipartisan support for fighting them
nobody else can do anything so who gives a shit
Congress will spend whatever money they have and then spend twice as much that they don't have. If they had to actually raise tax dollars they wouldn't be able to do half the things they want.
The trick is knowing currency doesn’t matter at their level and it’s all a show
Anon, US is 4% of the world population and contains 17% of the worlds manufacturing. What do you think the quality of that manufacturing is compared to China? You think the chips in your phones and laptops were fabricated there? You think the US has fallen off the manufacturing wagon because everything in the dollar store comes from China meanwhile the US is producing heavy machinery and technology, worlds largest factory is in the US and mass produces passenger jets.
>troops and Black folk
You’d have a nice day if it meant “owning” them, you nutcases can be safely ignored
Ukraine needs MCLCs that can clear out a large area in seconds. They should just get some of those Japanese ones that can be slapped onto an APC without needing any dedicated vehicles.
Can also be deployed by infantry.
Excuse me, no guns newbie here. What is that in the picture? A mortar of some kind? Thank you and sorry for the stupid questions.
Here's a Spanish-made MP as payment.
>Real talk, how are all the lend-lease vehicles going to be replaced now that the industrial bases of most western nations have been exported to China?
The KMW CEOsaid they can effortlessly go to 600 Leos produced per year in about 1-2 years, if the contracts for that come in.
It's not a matter of industry.
>t. zoomer too dumb to know what a fricking shitshow the latter half of the 20th century was in the US and who has subsisted on a steady diet of outrage bait twitter screencaps virtually every waking moment since 2016
great argument gaytron you sure did convince us with those hot opinions
>Oh boy, I can't wait to owe the government even more money than I already do! I sure do love paying for foreign wars put of my pocket! Who needs a tax return? That's unpatriotic! Frick off glowBlack folk. How many billions do you feel we need to leave behind in shithole countries before you're fricking satisfied?
Yes also in this oblast the apple pies are small and the Black folk who basketall do so slowly and with sadness due to their heavy taxations burden! When will people realise Russia is just a concerned friend and Predient putin is rather lovely. I too play baseball. Cannot people see the apple pie would be much nicer if Russia was let do its ass? Many such conversation here in Kansas-grad oblast.
I felt bad here in the Midwest Oblast. Proteins were good while they were, but the squirrel stopped and now we have to cook our pets. At least the dog tastes okay.
Yes also here in EU oblast I have eaten my ageing dog. Very sad. Next a child I suppose. Oh if only I had listened to teh benevolent warnings of President Putin instead of laughing and going to lidl and aldi and buying special offer such as star wars scrabble and pizza. The kind men and woman who bravely post on behalf of the Russian state warned us. Now I must eat child and burn my own faeces for heat.
FEELINGS OF INFERIORITY
10. By “feelings of inferiority” we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strict sense but a whole spectrum of related traits; low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self- hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have some such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.
>captcha: DVDW8
>the country that can't take ukraine is somehow capable of fighting nato
LOL
Its fricker tardson the concern poster who's ideas are always strangely beneficial to Russia! he believes many things strongly!
Anon, the industry that was sent to China is strictly for domestic civilian goods, weapons, armor, military stuff, ALL OF IT is domestically produced to produced in allied countries, Lockheed Martin shit is only in the USA, chip production is also mainly in Taiwan, with a new plant being made in USA, it was the canneries and the like that was sent to China, NOT weapon and tank factories
Wrong
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022/09/20/eight-f-35-jets-await-delivery-during-halt-over-chinese-alloy/
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-u-s-is-dangerously-dependent-on-china-trade-weakening-america-in-any-conflict-over-taiwan-9b8dfd96
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-sees-giant-cargo-cranes-as-possible-chinese-spying-tools-887c4ade
https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/press-release/report-says-u-s-military-dangerously-dependent-on-foreign-suppliers-2/
Doesn't quite look like consumer civilian goods
Black person actually read the article, they are talking about rare earth materials that may impact military not actual military industrialization.
you or another anon claimed that china was making our tanks, they are not. at best they are supplying some random rare earth material that may adversely affect some system briefly if not supplied
Rare earths are neither. If wanted they will be produced despite objections to the methods. That is the way of weapons precursor materials.
By the time that happens because there is finally enough impetus to get past regulations it will have already been too little, too late due to lead times. And it certainly isn't going to happen now or in the near future. Being reactive instead of proactive is not a good look for the US.
Oh noes not the clickbait article about one part of a plane that turned out to be unauthorised to use chia for import lmao.
This ain't Russia, I think the US and Europe will be fine.
Not totally true US does alot of dispersion into the eurozone as well.
Reason the US uses rhienmetal barrels, swedish AT-4s and Carl-Gs and BAE shit in everything is the US funds and props up NATO MIC by outcourcing parts to them.
Rhienmetal makes 90% of its income on forgien sales because the german military is a joke.
consider the situation critically
>ukraine wins with lend lease and support
>you pay higher taxes
vs
>ukraine receives no support and loses immediately
>russia gains one of the largest fertilizer and wheat exporter in the world.
>Food prices skyrocket, other countries may literally undergo famine.
>global trade shuts down because of food insecurity.
>everything is either more expensive or just unavailable.
>russia invades poland and baltics to secure eastern europe
>Americans now go to war with russia
>you now pay way more tax than if you just lend leased equipment.
You "pay" around twenty bucks a month for it, your taxes aren't even increased, shit Biden isn't even sending out cold hard cash there, he's sending out surplus and shit you already have laying around in warehouses, only thing you actually "pay" for is fuel to deliver it, really
>phoneposter
>doesn't understand the difference between a tax return and a tax refund
That's two strikes before examining anything else in this tepid abortion of a post
>You do realize we've been on the brink of a fricking civil war since 2016?
Yes this is also what we have been saying in many oblasts of the America. Horray for US civl war. Is thing for friends and family where you too are hero in your own action movie but with nice girl with the big breasts who you will save from other evil American side in civil war who think not like you. Go on do a terror for Uncle Putin so we see dimples when he smile Maybe even a small riot with a little burning? How about some race thing? Horray for civil war is is much fun.
There are no lend lease vehicles, ukraine was given so much stuff they never engaged with lend lease
Real talk
When are you snow Black folk gonna die of AIDs instead of spreading it online.
>using AI generated images to try and claim a win
>wrong about world production
>spamming shit threads liek this 24/7
>can't take bakhmut
>can't hold the line
>has no armor or artilery left
>can only cope with mines
What kind of mental breakdown will oyu have whn you're too poor to shitpost on PrepHole anymore because you lost the war
Far from it you seething moron. Its difficult to believe that you inarticlulate spew about everything from taxes to immigrants and your upcoming civil war in le usa actually comes from someone who is not intellectually disabled though and I include Russian subversion spam in that category.
>america has been on the brink of a civil war ever since I started browsing pol
Funny how often this seems to be the case.
>You do realize we've been on the brink of a fricking civil war since 2016?
Ahem. Pic related.
A quarter of the Russian population doesn’t have indoor plumbing.
I think the US is safe from having a civil war if Russians are too cycled to rise above Hindu living standards
>revelas self to be anon-american
yeah i thought so. The "rural and urban divide" is largely overstated due to the loving standards of both being largely on par with each other in America and will absolutely not play any role in any 'civil war'. since that can be taken out of consideration, lack of resources and the ideologies that sprout from such would be the only logical factor, and that isn't going to be a thing since america produces a metric shitton of food from subsidized farms, and is sitting on a massive natural reserve of fuel that can at anytime be tapped into regardless of political meandering.
>admits to being a non-american
works everytime
I have enough semen in my sack to drown both you and your entire shill farm. Does that answer your question? No? Whatever. Open wide, here comes the choo choo train!
This is some Vuhledar-level incompetence here tbqh. No air support? No artillery support? No mobile reconnaissance? Ffs, Syrsky, I know that you're Russian, but stop copying Zhukov, it's not 1940s anymore, you can't waste your men and your equipment like that.
both sides are having a hard time with air superiority due to them having near equal anti-air. it is part of the reason why Russia's advance failed to begin with
>Send Air support
>Gets shot down by S-400
>Artillery support
>You're shooting at minefields
>Mobile Recon
>MINEFIELDS MOTHERFRICKER
Air support cannot make Minefields disappear, Artillery cannot kill every mine recon will just say "There are Landmines here"
Fricking Landmines man, they are why North Korea has to build giant Tunnels for their planned invasion of South Korea.
GIANT TANK SIZED TUNNELS MILES AND MILES LONG WAS SEEN AS EASIER THAN DEALING WITH LANDMINES
>Fricking Landmines man, they are why North Korea has to build giant Tunnels for their planned invasion of South Korea.
Why didn't Ukraine do that then? Are Norks smarter than Ukies?
>T-THE SAME IS TOTALLY HAPPENING GUYS!!!
schizoanons are some of the most moronic posters here. the hatred was because they were two seperste countries with the north being largely industrialized and the south being feudal towns, with the political sides being industrialists/paid by industrialists in the north and Farm nobility in the south. there is absolutely nothing that comes close in comparison to that as everywhere in america has near equal rural and industrialized areas and politicians are from the exact same stock regardless of party or ideal.
The average Yankee did not hate the average Dixie as much as the average liberal hates the average conservative today, and vice versa. The only difference is that we don't have as much division among the states now as we did then, because the federal government is much stronger than it was in Buchanan's and Lincoln's time. But if back then the only issue in dispute was states' rights, and that was already enough to start a bloody conflict, now we have racial, gender, generational, religious, identity, cultural, class, and a bunch of other divisions. Well, there may not be a full-blown war, but there will be acts of terror, mass murder, assassination attempts and other such things, which, coupled with the opioid crisis and health care problems, are killing as many Americans as the Civil War. And it seems like a "national divorce" of some kind is the actual non-violent solution that we all need.
>The average Yankee did not hate the average Dixie as much as the average liberal hates the average conservative today, and vice versa
t. someone who doesn't read actual history
Of course not, that would imply the patience or intellect to read Wikipedia articles, much less *le gasp!* whole real books.
I will eat you and your family in front of a live studio audience. As a moderate, i feel it is my duty, perhaps even my manifest destiny to do so.
why do ukies continue to be slavs?
Rural American here, yes the cities are cringe and bluepilled, yes they're annoying full of crime and full of nosy liberals who want everyone to act and think like them, but contrary to what the culture war has you believe, most of us Rural people can fricking ignore them and they just call us rednecks and bigots and wrongthinkers.
MSNBC and Fox news all scream at each of us that the other is going to GET them anytime but ultimately neither side of us can do anything to completely own the other.
We're not going to starve the cities and the cities can't actually stop relying on us no matter how much we don't salute the rainbow flag.
>white people can’t suddenly, astonishingly and overwhelming reorient their societies towards military ends
Anon, I…
reading this made me doubt participating and enlonging in a proxy war that is actively destroying an adversary's capability of threatening my home nation