Is this stuff real M855 green tip? It's way cheaper than all the other green tip out there, so it's giving me vibes that it's too good to be true. I just finished putting 60 rounds of this stuff in two magazines.
Real M855
Is this stuff real M855 green tip? It's way cheaper than all the other green tip out there, so it's giving me vibes that it's too good to be true. I just finished putting 60 rounds of this stuff in two magazines.
Green tip isnt special ya know
If you want to get technical, The real m855 isn't available to civilians. M855 means military. The closest you can get is the xm855 from federal, which may or may not meet the extremely autistic requirements for military ammo. As a former Marine Corps grunt who has shot plenty of both, both on and off base, there isn't a discernible difference. But if you want to larp, it has to come from Federal in an ammo can. And don't feel like you're getting short-changed, if you had both in front of me and I couldn't look at the labels I honestly wouldn't be able to tell you which is which.
Thanks for letting me know, anon. I might as well just zero my rifles for the cheap "M855" than spend a shit ton to get the closest thing to the real deal. Also, it would make more sense to invest in some M855A1 that you can buy through gunbroker.com.
>the extremely autistic requirements for military ammo
LOL a hand loader with a Lyman Loader can achieve better tolerances.
Explain.
Ive gotten m855 marked (cardboard sleeve) ammo from lake city. The X designation is just a legal hurdle due to a clinton era ban on a US mil production plant selling to civilians.
OP, personally. I think the battle pack, stripper clip loaded PMC is better than the boxed stuff. PMC loads for the Korean military and is a NATO supplier. Buy lake city if you want the best m855. M855 is a mediocre round anyway. m855a1 isnt worth 2 bucks a pop either. Get black hills TSX if you want the best.
No, pmc underloads to 223 levels because they're cheap fuds. Only Federal and Lakecity are good to go for green tips. Anything marked SS109 is also trash that is underloaded but marked as such to avoid any legal repercussions in the US
>m193 penetrates more
>m193 is more accurate
>m193 is cheaper
What are you doing.
M855s are easy to find and cheap and good enough. I don't think any average shooter is gonna care about M193 vs M855s just as long as it hits where you point it.
range fudds hate them
Unfortunately. You would think these ancient buffoons would finally give in, alongside the bullshit shooting tempo
Shhhhh don't tell him
M193 requires a 1/12 twist rate to fire accurately. One of my ARs has a 1/8 twist rate, and I'm positive that's for the purpose of making M193 a bit more accurate through that barrel.
Lmao no dipshit
If you zero for M855, then M193 is a bit of a guessing game, and will have a more open grouping due to twist rate.
Then zero for m193? Not that hard of a feat all things considered.
>need to stack shittiest ammo deep as frick and zero all my guns to it
y tho?
I want my ARs to be tactical. M855 is better at penetrating body armor, and I could buy some M855A1 that is capable of penetrating class III+ body armor that has the same bullet weight.
Oh my fricking god
I know that M193 is more powerful and deadlier, but M855 has better performance at penetrating body armor. I don't believe it matters at a close distance, but I'm positive it does a little further out. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It doesn't, google is your friend.
M855 is not better for penetrating body armor - it’s better at penetrating UMHWPE, but m193 penetrates level 3/3+ steel plates while m855 does not, which are much more common plates than umhwpe.
Well, what about M855A1? I could just shoot M855 for shits and giggles, and then load up a bunch of M855A1 for when shit goes down. The zero should be pretty much the same.
You would be fricking moronic for buying m855a1 for $2 a round.
What about buying the bullets for $0.60 each and reloading with spent brass?
https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=M855A1&Sort=13
So zero for m193 you fricking tard
why do I keep seeing this fuddlore??
m193 works completely fine through 1:7. You can get under-stabilization with twist rates too slow for heavy bullets, but """over-stabilization""" isn't really a thing unless the spin is way too fast and the bullet explodes from the rotational energy.
Looks green to me Black person
No. PMC is consistently under loaded compared to the other m855 offerings on the market
Why isn't there a commercial copy of M855A1?
Very few people even know it exists, so I guess the demand isn't high enough.
If i just need to stack ammo deep and have a 14.5" barrel with a 1:7 twist do I get M193 or M855 or does it really not matter all that much in the end
It's made for M855, but you can shoot M193 through it. Just make sure to zero it with M855. I have a bunch of M193 lying around, and I plan on getting rid of it through full auto.
It's real NATO ammo. It's just made by asiatics instead of rednecks. Prices are dependent on how badly they want to get rid of their surplus. Since the usurper in chief's handlers would rather arm a slavic civil war and avoid an end to the local coup, prices for locally made m855 have been up. Makes you wonder how much of a kick back he's getting. PMC shoots about the same as LC and the brass has been just as usable in reloading. I've noticed a slight shift in POI, but nothing outrageous. It might be a little dirtier, but LC M855 is also fairly dirty. As such, I'm in the habit of cleaning my rifle after every range trip to remove carbon buildup. It's as simple as dropping it into a lake.
Green tip is mediocre at best and shitty at worst.
Suspected to be the worst accuracy of the military rounds because of the non-homogenous construction with the steel core.
It's also a mild steel penetrator, so it can't actually go through armor or any substantial cover.
m193 is better, and if you can pony up the cost, 77gr mk262 or its clones.