This thread is dedicated to when not if the SHTF happens and the politicians flee the chaos that will inevitably happen due to there actions, what would you do differently, would you go innawoods or stay and watch the chaos unfold in the cities
1. Survior could last 4 days in shtf
2. Last more than a week
3. Survive a month
4. Last a year
5. Make it through shtf and thrive in that environment
This is all dependent on the gear that the survivor has from the beginning initial stages of shtf
before you ask the image was used off innawoods.net
In an urban environment where your closest neighbor is less that half a mile away you should average about three weeks. Greater than that you can expect a year based on your ability to build and maintain a perennial food supply, and every year after roughly the same odds. 0.01% of the American population is prepared for the long haul. You will not make it. Flop is expected 2025 or sooner. Declining EROEI.
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Well thats a fun generator.
Shame its not a game too
Lol no. Guns are definitely not needed in a survival situations, if you insist having one then let it be easily concealable. A 9mm Glock will do.
I go camping in natural parks in Finland every year a few times and live there a few days. I can write you a list of essential things you need for survival
>Morakniv knife (any good quality puukko will do)
>actual survival skills like knowing how to make a fire using sticks and stones, and knowing what is a good camping spot, knowing how to make rope from plants (for the inevitable kys) and knowing which berries, shrooms and plants are safe to eat
>the holy trinity: good tent, good sleeping bag and a good sleeping pad (note: the pad is not just for comfort, it isolates the cold ground from your body)
>WATER, you'll consume about 5 liters in 2 days easily, make sure you know how to clean natural water or you must carry more water
less essential but I would pack them with me
>good backpack (this is something you just have to learn by trial and error)
>food rations, I can only recommend professional, maybe even mil rations
>basic med kit
>if it's safe to make open fire, carry some sausages and BBQ shit
>a couple lighters (I prefer COLT lighters)
>a book about making your own fishing and hunting equipment from scratch
much less essential
>compass
>trash bags
>extra clothes
>good jacket for wind and rain
>good towel
>crocs
>tooth brush
>good hiking shoes
>sun lotion
dude these guys are talking survival in the US not in rural finland.. they definately need guns with all the selfhate
What are they gonna do with them? Fight the military? Other survival larpers? Rest assured their own stupidity will kill them well before they get to shoot anyone. I'd like to see them hike/camp in a natural park a few days just to know how dangerous they are to themselves. The last thing you wanna do in SHTF is to shoot the rare few people you meet. Most people can't cope with loneliness for that long, I mean even Tom Hanks would have kyssed on that island if Wilson didn't talk him out of it.
>What are they gonna do with them?
Fend off people who will try to rob them because there are shitload of evil people out there, you fricking clown.
What are they going to steal? Your clothes and tent? I'm telling you, the most valuable thing on you would be the knowledge in your head and they can't steal that. Knowing the environment, where to find water, food and shelter, is more valuable than money or gold in SHTF. Furthermore, hunting is way more effective when you have more people. You have to think long term and stupid ideas such as shooting other people rarely give you the best outcome. I'm sure there has been a lot of dumbasses in the past who have killed a man only to realize he has 100 frens coming to get you now. Isn't that how it was in the Wild West(tm)?
>What are they going to steal?
Whatever they want to steal. Maybe they think you have more than you actually do ? Maybe they need something you have and they dont?
Maybe they are just generally shitheads?
The frick question is that? People steal and kill each other over trivial things all the time even in normal situation, in SHTF scenario its even more porabable.
No those are the stupid people without skills. They will never find someone with skills, they won't come deep in the woods. The very reason they are violent apes and steal is because they are stupid. Hunting, fishing and such doesn't require stealing or killing other people. But if you're paranoid, sure, carry a gun, just make sure it's concealable so that some sniper doesn't kill you first because you made yourself look like a threat.
>stupid people arent a threat
Ok, you are moronic. My bad 10/10 bait.
They aren't a threat because they will not make it as far as someone with skills. Guns are only tools, not some magic trick that works everywhere and every time. How do you prevent people from killing you while you sleep? They'll observe, wait, sneak in close, kill, then steal your guns. If you see them first I suggest you go away from them rather than fight them.
>only argument against a gun is that its not 100% fool proof method of detering agression
>bro just run away/hope no one will make it as far as you
Okay i was joking but you really are moronic.
I'm not saying you shouldn't have a gun but it's definitely not essential for survival. People survived how long before guns were invented? That's right brainlet. Even today there are noguns societies who survived world wars. You're the moron. Gun is a tool, nothing more.
yes this is true however in the modern day when ever predatory bad person is going to have a gun it helps to be on equal footing
>I'm sure there has been a lot of dumbasses in the past who have killed a man only to realize he has 100 frens coming to get you now. Isn't that how it was in the Wild West(tm)?
Just move to the next state brah.
You have some good points, especially knowledge, although the people here in america are not the type of people that are going to care about other people when it means self preservation, this will also destroy gangs, because most gangs don't want to eat hot lead for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. If shtf in america it would resemble a free for all and in that case it's best to stay clear from people
what fantasy are you anticipating? you think you are going to be the lone survivor of some apocalypse like your heckin video games, eating berries and hunting deer alone for years with your little pocket knife in the forest?
true SHTF is going to be regular real life, but with no law and order as people form into gangs and Black folk raid the countryside looking for loot until some form of power structure is created and peace and law is restored. people dont live perpetually without law and order moron. civilization always reforms because people are genetically programmed to form groups for safety.
look at venezuela, iran, brazil or vietnam or any other shithole for an example of what SHTF looks like. government loses control which is followed by brief periods of chaos and anarchy followed immediately by return to law and order. there is no such thing as your video game larp of empty lands with bandits and raiders
>there is no such thing as your video game larp of empty lands with bandits and raiders
Except that your own country was like that for a long time, also known as the wild west. Siberia was and pretty much still is like that. There are many rural places on this planet where hordes of Black person gangs have been replaced by much smarter white pioneers. You don't really know what you're talking about and you didn't even read the thread. Going deep in the bush is a good survival strategy in some scenarios and works better than taking big risks in gang ridden cities. Of course if you're smart you can be successful in populated areas too.
>Most people can't cope with loneliness for that long
You really don't have any clue where you are, do you?
I'm among frens. That's why we all are here.
you should never trust no one, even if they come with a friendly face because you don't know who they are, what they think, what their intent is, in a shtf you would not want to come in contact with people
Have you ever been to any kind of a survival situation? A hostile territory is another story, but trying to hide alone forever is a really bad plan. We need other people, we are that kind of a species. If you seriously plan to survive alone, you will not make it for long. Sooner or later you will run into bad luck, it's inevitable, then you only wish you had someone to help you out. This is actually something you learn if you practice living in similar conditions e.g. yearly trips in national parks where you hike and camp alone for many days. I think you maybe watch too much TV. This stuff takes a lot of practice, you will not learn it from the internet, TV or from books. Manuals are good though, but you still need to DIY many times to really learn the skills. You can even simulate the situation in your backyard, that is a good but safe way to learn.
Yeah, the applachian mountains about five feet from my back porch, know the hills and the lay of the land in my area like the back of my hand, I was raised in the hills man, my military training only helped with that, being a loner has it's pro and con's, but so does running with a crowd of people, in a shtf I would take my chances being a loner that with people, but some how if you keep a calm and collected head on your shoulders you can make it out of anything that you should face
I'm also military trained and we never did anything alone. Military is about the worst place to learn lone wolf survival. It does teach you to tolerate other people however, especially under stress. I learned all my lone wolf shit, surprisingly, by camping alone. How is your archery? Do you make your own bows?
you make good points that the military revolves around unit cohesion and a formal command sturcture made up of military personel, most of my skills come from living in the woods, learing from the old timers, people who actually lived from through the great depression when I was a kid, trial and error you might say, but trapping game is a more efficient way of getting food than hunting every will be, dig a hole, set some traps and wait, that simple and it's pretty damn effective
>Finnish chad vs mutt chud
that's hillbilly to you fren
>You can even simulate the situation in your backyard, that is a good but safe way to learn.
this is very good advice and i always recommend this. i see all these tards on here larping with pics of gear that has never been opened and you just know if they tried to spend the night in their backyard they would fail after 2 hours and go back inside becuase the bugs or spooky wind at night
>this is very good advice and i always recommend this. i see all these tards on here larping with pics of gear that has never been opened and you just know if they tried to spend the night in their backyard they would fail after 2 hours and go back inside becuase the bugs or spooky wind at night
Look at youtube videos of people who buy gear, store it up for months on end and never use it, there are no signs of wear and tear on their gear at all, it's always new and you know they want to be prepared but you are doing more harm to yourself by never training with your gear or learning new ideas on how to make stuff
One time I wanted to test more extreme conditions so I looked at the forecast and waited for when it would be really windy and went camping at the lake, right on the beach. It was room temp when I went to sleep, woke up in a storm and pitch black darkness, man I was freezing so bad. Had to put every bit of clothing on and close the sleeping bag real tight, luckily I put the door of my tent away from the water, but the wind still came through, so I had to also Black person rig my raincoat on the lake side of the tent to help with the wind. I looked at the forecast again and it showed heavy rain in the morning. Woke up cold and wet in the morning and decided to go warm up and sleep in the car. If I didn't have that option and I was really in the wild, could have ended bad. Since then I've always spent good time looking for a good spot to camp, especially minding the wind and rain. The weather can change quickly.
perfect lesson for why practice is necessary. you only get better with experience
depends, your country and my country have lots of differences, what works for you will not work here, guns are a common and there are many of them, in a shtf you better bet your ass people here in the states are going to have them
>Guns are definitely not needed in a survival situations
Depends on the situation, place etc.
(2) When I go camping innawoods I also take some snacks with me so that I don't waste all of the actual food when I feel hungry. I try to find edible stuff in nature but it's not always around. Most important is to learn what is a good camping spot and that takes more experience than most comprehend. You don't want to wake up freezing because a strong wind started while you were asleep and your spot sucks. For heavy rain you might also want to consider under trees. A good spot is usually also good for stealth.
Depending on what kind of survival we are talking about, you might want to pace your movement in the right direction. This takes experience and has not much to do with gear. Maintaining your body temp does have to do with gear but also skill. Water will be the heaviest thing to carry so you really should plan your route well. When it runs out, you want to be near drinkable water. Now, why is a knife essential? Well you can use it in many ways as a tool, a weapon, but also if it really comes down to it, you can use it to end your suffering. Frick the animals btw.
Only time any of us will be required to actually survive will be societal breakdown which includes lights out and for those circumstances you do need guns, especially long range ones like AR15 etc.
That will never happen though. Our worst time was either WW2 or CW, and the majority of civilians were just fine through the years. There are bad people sure, just like there are bad animals. Having a gun may or may not help. Gun is actually something they would want to steal, if they see you carrying and holding guns, they will wait for the moment and take them from you. If you're alone there is nothing you can do because you will fall asleep at some point. This is why I'm telling you from experience, you need other people and you really should go deep into the wild where stupid people, those apes who steal, won't survive more than two days. Also in SHTF, why wouldn't we just reboot into a similar society we have now? There's a reason why we are here now, and it may not be so obvious to those who don't actually go into the wild and live the experience.
If you don't have a dog, then trying to find someone out in a heavily wooded forested area is like finding a needle in a haystack, geographical terrain and it's features can be used in your favor if you know how to best use it, people take the path of least resistance, they will not use their own initiative to seek you out unless they know what you have and who you are, like I said it's best to stay away from people if you can, if not then you will have to remove the threat
>heavy boomer guns
>carrying a shovel
>no armor
>no cell phone
>no electronics
>not much water
ur dead in a day bro
the frick are you going to do with a cellphone? call the police?
>what the frick are you going to do with gigabytes of stored useful data and dozens of useful apps which don't require internet access
>gigabytes of stored useful data
not useful in the sense that it will increase your survivability
>dozens of useful apps which don't require internet access
name them
I have an app that teaches me basic strategy in Blackjack.
I've got one of those multi industry measurements conversion apps. Even has the real size of nails in pennies
That's cool anon. I gotta get that.
This might survive an emp better
I'm gonna wrap everything in this heavy duty foil. Worth an attempt.
I am gonna grab a copy of that though, thanks.
You betcha. It's small
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.ligi.survivalmanual/
I wish I could find you in real life, break that stupid ass phone, and them smack you over the soft-spot on your head with a copy of US Army survival field manual
spine first
Why?
phones are gay
No one intelligent is bringing a fricking cell phone what a waste and a liability lmao
Oh gee wonder if I can eat this mushroom. If only I had something that whould provide info on this potential food source.
if your down to an app telling you if you can eat a mushroom... then YOU ARE THE MUSHROOM
>the frick you gonna do with that tracking beacon?
>begs survivalists to take a known tracking device innawoods
How is the weather in Langley
well you might not want a cellphone, but Id want an IPAD. hundreds of survival books, DIY stuff, charts for stars, edible plants, etc etc etc .... knowledge is power. just the maps alone are worth thier weight in gold.
Hard books are a good source of knowledge to have, but if shtf it would be pretty hard to generate enough electricity to keep your phones powered
Maybe try learning those things ahead of time. And you wont have to need a fisher price electronic to attwmpt to make life easier. If youre in a survival situation and youre primary souce of food is hunting and gathering youre not gunna have time to worry about and read a fricking ipad.
get your position triangulated.
>heavy boomer guns
8lbs with ammo ain't heavy
>carrying a shovel
you mean a weapon, toilet, frying pan, hatchet, shovel,+6 etc, you got any idea how useful an e-tool is for innawoods frickery?
>no armor
won't need it if you're doing everything right
>no cellphone
good
>no electronics
the less the better
>not much water
you got me there
>Toilet
>Frying pan
Hello sir
>>no cell phone
>>no electronics
>no recycling bin
>no compost bin
>no EV
>no boost tax
>no Greta pic
ngmi
Greta pic should be the minimum. How else do you intend to keep your sanity when the world finally goes?
Everything I've read and what I've begun to practice is light rifleman kits. If we rly do get SHTF a light rifleman rig will be required unless you are stuck in an urban environment. Even then if you did want armor you'd be bringing 1 plate not 2 more than likely, some hesco plates can be super light but still weight is weight.
societal collapse incoming
2 moar weeks
get ready bros
this is the big 1
I like your massive ass 1000 page books, Black person. Very informative. You should compile some ballistics forensics books with a book called spin the block on libgen. Give it a read first, see what you think of it. That would be based. Also frick glowBlack folk.
>muh unsustainable population growth! muh Malthusian population bomb!
moron shit. The real long term problem for humanity is going to be the incoming population implosion that will happen once we hit that population peak around 2100. A world for perhaps centuries where hardly a country on Earth has replacement level demographics? In a world where you're probably going to need about 7 billion to keep the wheels of global civilization turning but you only have 6... now 5... now 4 billion people? A world where of those decreasing billions the low IQ POC of the world are overrepresented because the high IQ 1st world wasn't replacing itself decades and decades before even POCs stopped replacing themselves in 2100?
Dark, DARK times ahead for our great grandchildren and beyond, few in number as they will be, and it will not be because there are too many people. And AI and robots will not be enough to fill the gaps.
here ya go
I ordered a small box of beef cubes from this place and will post pics & taste test later
http://wholecows.com/
How is freeze dried beef for over $2/OZ before shipping ever gonna be viable prep food? Whats your daily beef cube ration? Are you just rich so you can afford this shit? Are you in an apartment where you'll have 0 chance to catch a squirrel? Where does this fit into a real human beings plan? Or are you a beef cube merchant?
600 for 48oz of freeze dried beef. That's rich man's food. Not to mention it starts going bad and requires refrigerator after opening the bag. Crazy expensive. It should come in 6oz portions individually packed not 12 oz.
Where are you he dildos and funny powder?
>due to there actions
i've already got my eye on last ditch real estate. i'm just gonna manifest destiny a commercial office building if laws can no longer be enforced. my place sucks, i dont want to stay here.
If surviving and thriving means staying smoked out and being based then you get 5/5
Plus cigs can be used for trade
It this Zero Sievert?
CIBOLA!
>two quarts of water
>no purification tabs or filters
>no cookware
>4 to 8 days of food depending on MREs or HDRs
>25 rounds for your rifle
>8 rounds for your sidearm
>enough trauma gear for getting shot twice
What the frick are you doing? Your bussy is going to be the property of 30 minutes after the government falls apart.
Yeah that's not happening their hoss, but most people's perception is what they want to think not what will happen in reality
You don't even have two days of clean water while you plan to heat and consume eight MREs.
no need to eat if you have cigarettes
loadout of the year all years
Literally me
>tfw between aluminum recycler and copper twins
Silver bros i live onward.
I farted on a israelite
Simple as
Look at that deoderant there is a message
Rolling for super giga mega ultra hyper deflation to where 100 copper pennies will get a silver dollar, or a handful of cheeseburgers.
>Black folk were brought by israelites
>Holocaust is a lie
>due to the olygodynamic effect, israelites cannot touch silver b3cause it would burn their hands.
My edc every day carry
The upcrack boom
those were comfy threads back in 2011
>2011
Fuggg i wasn't even born yet [my grandma is a won't let me curse on the internet]
Stacking silver causes acceleration of it all
what i can realistically get with an hour's head's up
Most of the CuNi in your neighborhood
Am I blind or does he have no mags or ammo for that 1911?
no you are not blind, but if you are using a pistol your still kinda screwed anyway
What game is this you c**ts
innawoods.net
semi-auto rifles are banned here plus centerfire ammo prices are skyrocketing (basically 4$/round of .223) should I just get a semiauto 22lr and hoard 22lr ammo like there is no tomorrow?
>already have bolty 22lr rifle and peestol n same caliber
sure there's a lot of practical uses for a 22 lr and they don't make much noise
The seals use .22lr. Can be suppressed with a draped cloth
I would not doubt it, they have some cool stuff but you shouldn't heavily rely on technological things, the basics will serve you well out there
Thing about shtf is that you'll want to either avoid all confrontations or band together with an armed group. Using an AK or AR alone to fight off roving bandits is how you get killed. So I don't think having a powerful rifle is as important as having a good support group.
If I were you, I'd try to get a large caliber handgun for human threats. Use the 22lr for hunting.
What do you think a large group needs? Multiple rifles
>Using an AK or AR alone to fight off roving bandits is how you get killed.
Not if you're carrying plenty magazines, have sufficient cover, and know how to shoot straight.
I'd bet the collective amount of firearms owned by the people in this thread is less than 10.
You're all dead in the first week anyways.
in muttmerica i wouldnt have less than 20, but in the rest of the world you cant buy tactical nukes and nuclear submarines in walmart so 2 guns at least is ok
Here you go frens. I am back! My ban got lifted. Feels refreshing to be able to do civpsyop again.
dont swoop me c**t im full of tinnies
Why not bringing at least a semi-automatic rifle? Why a 1911? I mean I like them as much as the next guy, but it's objectively 2nd rate choice for SHTF sidearm. I also don't know what options this thing gives you, but where's your water purification system? Cooking supplies?
Other than that it's okay I guess. Don't listen to the other morons suggesting armor plates. If you're in a SHTF situation where they're required Innawoods™ you've already fricked up. Otherwise it's just a massive expenditure of time, calories and energy.
Can't tell if this is a troll or not because it's borderline realistic that a moron would believe this was a good loadout.
sentimental value, and a last resort if need be, that's why I choose the 1911 for this survivor
>Make it through shtf and thrive in that environment
>Implying the power vacuum wouldn't have been filled by that point
Once you finally leave the woods, you'll find normies lining up for rations and some new megalomaniac in charge of everything in your immediate region. Possibly some roving gangs of bandits? But yeah, if SHTF, nothing will really change.
I think I'll live.
Chad setup. Bananas are for the initial energy required to chop up and eat some sorry bastard
dafuq
Thats what you get cannibal
BEHOLD MORTAL!
I'm NGMI
:/
I refuse to part with my gun collection. So much more was left behind. This is a close approximation.
>why no water?
I drink only pop and alcohol.
>why no compass?
LOL. I'll just get more lost.
hey youre alright
Ah yes, the walking supply drop. Im sure the nig with a hipoint will love your krink
he'll probably shoot me with my future hi point that I'll inevitably leave behind for more practical guns unless I get another 10mm 🙂
a cart should be a part of this.
I want a cart to drag my gun collection.
Or maybe... a friend?
No, then I'd have to share my whiskey. That's my whiskey. I love bourbon, and you can't have any.
I don't want your whiskey, but I'll gladly help you with your guns.
>AK in right hand
>AR in left hand
>Auto-shotty in left foot
>Bullpup in right foot
>One pistol on each nut
>Sword on wiener
>Spin in circles screaming, annihilate all hostiles
>no_flaws_in_this_plan.appimage
I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE...
...CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH
SIIING BROTHERS
SING BROTHERS
SIIIING
SIIIIING
SIIIINNGG!!!
and my 2 backup pistols, a 38 spl, and a .32 keltec! I don't have an fn 1903, I have a keltec. It's not entirely metal, but the short recoil is more complicated mechanically. I like unnecessarily or maybe necessarily complicated things.
the 1911
is not that bad. lots of parts for it. mine's double stacked! and stainless so it's harder for it to rust! also, the .45 doesn't need fancy hollow points to pack a whallop! so when society starts coming back, I can use regular fmj, or even hardcast as long as it's a rounded hardcast!
this isn't my 1911, but mine looks a lot like it!
Cute. Next time hide the serial number so glowBlack folk dont start staulking you but you're probably fine here.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/950200260/Springfield-Armory-Ultra-Compact-High-Capacity-45-ACP.htm
but this is a gunsamerica ad.
mine doesn't have wear on the rear right of the of the slide. it has it on the left of the slide, except, it's not so... scratchy. it's like it was slowly rubbed, almost polished, from being carried, wearing down the letters, and giving it an odd mirror like finish. I didn't buy it new. most of my guns are used, because, they just don't make a lot of things anymore. I like that about guns, they stick around.
try to buy old frozen boston market or discontinued beer or pop.
or panama red. where can you even find panama red?
Based man of culture. My serial numbers sometimes wear off from all the illegal concealed carry too. Can't find any panama red either..
1911's are like the last good thing that represents america, not gucci glocks, but yeah your 45 sounds like a good weapon to have
there will always be turmoil, but that's the thing, we hear about shtf that has happen in other countries but it's different when it's your country going through shtf and people can laugh but it's not something to take so lightly like many people do these days
Our military and special forces use Glock. Along with HRT, pup kink masks and dildos for deep throating.
Marines in WW2 preferred the .38 police special over the automatic. All that sand.
You know there was some good things about that life style that I miss, especially running the ranges, but with how they have dismantled almost every military installation with liberal bull shit, the erasing of white history and culture and you can't help but not think that shtf might not be that far off
i will die in 4 days
No bro you got deens. Plus all those high speed tactical operators are gonna need someone with a pot to cook them some real food when they get tired of MREs. And you got tea.
my original plan was to become a goblin and live in a cave/abandoned Building but roaming chef sounds good to
I did the cave goblin thing for a few years. Was upset to find that shtf didn't happen yet. Got infiltrated by teenieboppers lookibg for a place to suck each others wieners. The world aint what it used to be. As a chef, you may have to compete with mexicans but at least your food might be better.
you could always eat the teeny boppers. the authorities would probably think it was a bear. should always ask if anyone knows you're there.
>is immortal
>hardmode
only for everyone else
Every new place you camp, first thing to do is to assert your dominance with a big man roar. Unless youre stealth camping or otherwise don't want to be found then you do a feminine penus squeak and dakota pit fire to hide smoke
If you roar too loud you scare away the prey. And if they're carrying money you can get... MORE WHISKEY
I don't trust a man that doesn't drink whiskey.
okay MR. SANDERZ
Hahahahababah yeah!
> Got infiltrated by teenieboppers lookibg for a place to suck each others wieners
I WOOD NEVER
i better learn more about cooking i should start browsing PrepHole what would a PrepHole bored about food even be like
It would be yummy in my tummy but only grumbly until getting into my tumbly
People just argue about which cuisine is better
my hardmode loadout
Why the underwear?
No option for butt neked
The experiences from the people that endured the anarchy in the balkan are the most valuable source one could get. It tends to take a few days for people to realize that things are beyond repair and then everything’s going down quickly - police disappears, water is cut off, everyone’s fighting over resources and neither law nor morality apply anymore.
Cities become death traps, the woods lack safety. Small towns with close knitted communities are the only ones capable of fending off outsiders and working towards common goals.
Is that like the bosnian wars where the city was under siege and cut off from utilities and resupply?
Bosnia is the most popular example because of Selco, who wrote many books and shared his experiences on the internet aswell. It wasn’t the only country in the balkan that has been through shit, though
Yeah Selco, couldnt remember the name. That's the only source i have. Pretty good stories he told.
I'll be fine. Promise.
I'm ready to go to Valhalla, LET ME AT EM!
Can that vest withstand white phosphorus or toxic gas? Just curious.
Rhodesian chest rig ftw? But anon you have no need for storing rifle magazines with that primary.
>Rhodesian chest rig ftw?
Frick yeah!
>But anon you have no need for storing rifle magazines with that primary.
It's an M60, you load it with belts from the ammo boxes, doesn't use magazines.
I know. So why the rhodesian chest rig that is designed to hold rifle mags?
I'm kind of a schizo alright, I just liked how it looked and put white phosphorous grenades in there.
Rip good luck in the next life.
No worries. Theyre not very comfortable fully loaded unless you wear it over some kind of body armor or thick clothing.
...I knew you'd come prepared. Nice to find another schizo as well.
Toxic gas it'll handle, no problem. God knows if it'll withstand willie pete.
Thread is going too fast, noone will notice I am not prepped
95% of us should stay home and make very cautious moves only during the night time.
fck
When are you going to install your attachments anon?
Before I head out at night
Good man
>1. Survior could last 4 days in shtf
wrong. in a real shtf eotwayki shituation, the first few days, or even week, is spent scavenging for supplies. you need to gather as much of everything as you can, as fast as you can, and whatever you dont have, at your bug out (or better, bug in) location. then you turtle up for the next year and let the various survivors kill each other off.
so really what do you need. a small self sufficient community, on a dead end road, with bridges and natural barriers (like an island), that can be destroyed. your going to need power, so install solar power today.
now a funny one
you would likely only survive for one day with that loadout lol
*0 days
depends on a list of things, whether or not you set it off or if someone set's it off for you lol
>silverrush.png
Youre out of control leaf fren
>All those cigs,
>Nothing to light them with.
this is so hilariously deranged and fantastical you colossal urban homosexual
lefty pol sounds right up your alley
You can never have enough ammo in my experience. Bring a frickton of ammo and I mean as much as you can carry.
SHTF is a completely unrealistic scenario. it's never happened, you know. there has been countless atrocities throughout european history and there has never been anarchy. even barbarians upheld order in their territories. the closest thing to "SHTF" in european history were the mongol invasions, and that shit cleaned up real fast once europe spammed thousands of castles. that's what white people do, maintain order. there will be no SHTF.
what you SHOULD be preparing for is guerilla insurgency against ZOG that's coming once millennials are in the position that boomers are in now. think afghanistan paired with sabotage of infrastructure to strangle the ZOG leviathan. this is different than "SHTF", it's war.
you never know anon, that's the thing, it's up to the people
no, it's up to whoever has the most capability of violence. that's how the world has always worked. and the people with the most capability of violence will often be a large organized group of people. military structures and religious organizations being good examples of things that don't just magically vanish into thin air in whatever scenario you have in your head. you really think mormons are going to play along with your fallout fantasy? you think everyone in the US despite massive amounts of weapons are just going to hole up individually in little shacks and never say get a few thousand armed guys into an organized body to improve the conditions of literally everything in their lives? get real.
if and when shtf happens, whether that be economic collapse, grid down from solar flare or emp or whatever the case most people will not get along, most anons on here prove that daily, most people prefer isolation than that of working together, ask yourself this, could you work along with a libtard or how about people with different ideals other than your own, like I said most people prefer isolation and that's why they call it shtf because it does not have to make since and there could be a lot of scenarios that could play out like this
>could you work along with a libtard or how about people with different ideals other than your own
Depends on how amicable they are, I can genereally get along just fine but I have rather tight boundaries and limits.
Every wartime scenerio is SHTF anon.
You're forgetting that the average person isn't nearly as self-sufficient as people before. We depend on fragile supply chains and globalization to survive
We have never had a Carrington event that knocked out are modernity, our supply chain, and basically kicked everyone from modern living back to the Stone age. If it happens and we lose our electricity all at once for a very long period of time, then you will see shit hits the fan for real and it will happen almost everywhere at the same time.
Grandma shoots him a loots the corpse on day one
Im trying men, I live in one of the two worst states
I feel for you. I was lucky to get all the shit that I have living in one of the most gun-hating state in the U.S.
Youre doing just fine fren
I know your pain but where there's a will..
There's definitely a way. I should manifest more ammunition.
Drive to another state and buy it before it gets too expensive or disaappears altogether.
Now that's a goal of mine.
youve got two empty slots, no flash hider?
Nope, didn't need it, even though it would reduce the light from the muzzle of the weapon
but you will need it. unless you want to give your position away. with a gun like that you can sit for days with a flash hider. havent you ever seen enemy at the gates? a completely fictional movie based on a semi-fictional book. but the flash hider means life or death especially in a sniper duel and ill tell you right now im gonna be camping like a motherfricker wallgayging Black folk for the lols
scratch that, 6 slots. the nvg and gas mask are probably unneccessary but the radio? youre gonna want that. what is that last slot, is that a gen 2 ipod or gauze?
that's a weapons cleaning kit
those flashlights are terrible. There's a reason nobody uses them anymore.
That's what I trained with on Parris Island 15 years ago, red lens, blue lens moon beam
>carrying tons of food for an innawoods on-foot shtf scenario
small + calorically dense store of emergency energy is fine but for as much as that food weighs you can carry a gill net and extra ammo for hunting. you can survive without food or sporadic food for a very long time.
also, sleeping pad + sleeping bag is a joke, this ain't a camping trip a poncho and a woobie is more than enough and like 75% smaller in terms of size/weight.
here's a hint, those mre's would be field stripped, meaning that the card board cartons that hold the food would be removed and a single piece of electrical tape would wrap all the food together
>field stripping MRE's to carry more bowel-stopping goyslop
if you want to punish yourself that badly just get the first strike rations. a jar of peanut butter and some tortillas would do the same job with way less bullshit.
yeah, first strike rations are like 3 to 4 mres in one but cost a little more, but it's something, and something is better than nothing when you are in the field
if you want variety and flavor for morale purposes, look into dehydrated backpacking meals. just as expensive as MRE's but have 10x longer shelf life and they are much lighter (you just need to find/filter clean water in the field obviously but you need to do that regardless). they genuinely taste good as well, mountain house makes a calorie-bomb biscuits and gravy pouch that tastes just like the real thing, i eat it when camping just because i like it so much.
a lot of people advise against any food that requires cooking which is smart but you can rehydrate those pouch meals without heated water just takes longer. also, you can get SPAM single serving slice pouches if you want some "real" meat in the diet.
they have these prepper threads in /k/ with 100s of graphics
I'll be fine.
Like I have said before, if you have never trained with gear, managed your food properly, learned survival skills by filtering water by taking your shirt and putting it over a water bottle to act as a filter, boiling water, any of that well then I fell sorry for you, but hey people have their opinions, let's say that I at least know I can survive in some of the harshest environments out there
You need some help, try that shit out there and you might wind up getting sized for a wooden box cowboy style
Shit is fun but i would really love for it to be a game..
Time to warm up CDDA or Zero Sievert.
yeah it's a nice little program, it can also be used as a training aid
I like the artstyle, very stylish and immersive.
Yep, you can get crazy with that program, I liked how detailed the things can can use for the layout of what you want to make for a loadout
This is not /k/, but I tell you the worst thing you can do when there will be an active war is to dress like a soldier. You'll be percived as a partisan and shot on the spot
your right this is /k/ but the discussion of shtf is political
depends if the world will make it to that year, but we do know that the bible tells that their will be signs of the end times
your right this is not /k/ but the discussion of shtf is political
>I'll pretend it is a similiar colour, but realistically it is a good set up if it wasn't so heavy loaded
Im channeling my inner gamer and im a hoarder and a nomad in lots of survival games..
>Im channeling my inner gamer and im a hoarder and a nomad in lots of survival games..
Ok, but remember item perks works different irl
I know i know.
This one is what i actually have in my house...
no one is judging you anon, you have enough gear there to survive pretty good out there in a shtf scenario
I need to buy some shit like multitool, actual knife etc.
multi tool has many uses, very good piece of gear, I didn't know a marine that didn't have one with there gear
Fairly better
Franky, just an Axe, a knife and some pliers will do, Even two screwdrivers if you don't want to use the tip of the knife
My europoor set
that's more than what most liberals would even carry on themselves even in a shtf scenario
if you can carry all that then you would be a good saw gunner in the marines, but I suggest to people not to join the military due to all the woke bull shit and erasing of white history and culture
I was a "saw"(different name but same gun) gunner + paratrooper in the french army, i'm used to being a mule
how long can this fella last?
lol, acog on a sledge hammer, looks like to me could survive at least a week, probably longer if he has a good head on his shoulders
don't forget to bring a panzershrek
Rate my shit.
a few days at most, but with that setup you are looking for combat, cqb close quarters battle or cqc close quarters combat is risky games to play, but in a shtf situation sometimes you may have no choice
Cruisin' for a bruisin' aye aye.
if you're going to survive long term, you're going to have to make friends
very practical shtf loadout, a month at most, maybe more depending on what you know
Brah you forgot your ammo.
Got a box of shells, that's enough. If you're relying on ammo to survive, youre doing it wrong. The trick is to have stuff people need: coffee, cigs, booze, entertainment and conversation.
Even better: wisdom, guidance and a kind word.
damn, I know who to call if standing two on a LP OP, two weeks at most maybe more depending on skills and knowledge
Your welcome here fren
where's the shovel so he can place IED's, lol, some people may give the taliban shit, but those people are dedicated when they want to be
I would go
>>>/k/
but /k/ has been infested by trannies and glowBlack folk
Allah Akbar.
where's the shovel so he can place IED's, lol, some people may give the taliban shit, but those people are dedicated when they want to be
He is more the AT guy lol.
>People survived how long before guns were invented?
Thats because there were no guns and they had other weapons AND OTHER GUY was sure to not have a gun, you fricking clown.
Moron. I knew you'd say that. What an idiot.
>muh taliban beat the us military with assault rifles
>ok so you can also beat assault rifles with more primitive weapons?
>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
Carrington event will make global population decrease around 80% within one month. Ruger 10/22 all weather addition 30 bx25 magazines and around 10,000 rounds 22LR. This thing will do it all
The survivalists will inevitably suck the wieners of the military, which will become a new point of crystallization of society, as it has always been.
In any incomprehensible situation, run to enlist in the army.
>my plan is to survive as long as possible, so Imma put myself into the most dangerous situations imaginable, firefights
What?
OK. Let's go to scripts.
1. Big war. The missiles will fly soon.
The army will give you clothes, protection, resources and some kind of purpose.
The chances of survival are much greater than those of a simple civilian. The chances of survival are greater than those of a single person or a group of survivalists, since conflict between the army and such groups is inevitable.
2. The collapse of state structures.
As I said, the military will inevitably become a point of crystallization of new formations and will accumulate resources and people around them. You are many and you are strong. This will keep you safe from looter gangs.
In general, it’s more promising to join the army right away than to leave the forest with an overgrown bum or die in a shootout with the same army because you felt that your village is now independent and will not want to obey the new government.
>The army will give you clothes, protection, resources and some kind of purpose
You shouldn't be putting faith in no military or no person, the biggest killer to mankind is democide, they will see you as a drain to continuity of government and most likely use you as forced labor or be shot dead in a trench, but hey, take your chances with them when shtf happens, I will not though
Man, I understand that you Americans do not believe in your armed forces. (I was thinking, but in your history there were moments in general when the army really protected the Americans? not very good in your history, the war with Mexico maybe? who attacked whom there ?)
Nevertheless, this is the only winning strategy in the long run.
stores and non perishable foods will be the first thing people go for, the military will have a hard time supply themselves, let alone a lot of people looking for them to help them, hard decisions will have to be made and I don't see any military doing the right thing when they should
>military will have a hard time supply themselves
Military warehouses store GIGATONS of food. Thank the cold war.
>let alone a lot of people looking for them to help them, hard decisions will have to be made and I don't see any military doing the right thing when they should
Lol, they'll just become the new authority. And where there are none, with a 90% probability, various bandits will become authority. And with a motorbike, the military will kill them all.
Think about the future.
>Military warehouses
Would be a very potential target if countries were to go to war, the same with fuel dumps, supply depots, rail networks, infrastructure
like I said the military would have a hard time resupplying it's self
If you have at least half as many of them as we have, then you can’t even imagine how many there are.
I, during my service (not a contract, a conscript), for some time guarded one of these warehouses. Underground kilometers of weapons, parts, cartridges.
This is the first.
Secondly, you stubbornly ignore the fact that the MILITARY WILL BECOME A NEW AUTHORITY. This means that they will be engaged in providing themselves, launching production chains, trade and other things.
Human fricking nature is what will offset that, most people will always believe what's best for them, the military can only do so much, not everyone will agree with the military, and in some cases people will splinter off and do what's best for them, either the military uses them or they use the military but eventually it will come down to what they think is best for them
Crap. as I already wrote, I knew that the Americans do not like their military, but I did not know that so much.
A country that cannot rely on its army and sees it as an enemy is doomed.
I still think you're exaggerating.
a house divided cannot stand, jesus christ said that and it applies to every country
Moron
Militaries are fricking working paycheck to paycheck, with no loyalty. There would be mass desertion if shtf.
There are only so many commisars to threaten the troops into obedience. You can keep them in line when its not bad with just a few threats here and there. If the majority desert they have no enforcement mechanism big enough. You where a goddamn conscript, you should know this.
Also you and every other person in 100 miles knows about those warehouses, and I bet some already put in personal backdoors to access them, and are already leeching off them.
this is about all i have for survival gear. a good knife is next on the list, what other things are essential?
It depends on were you are located, are you in a rural setting, sub urb, city, the gear you have is good enough to keep you alive for about two days maybe more if you use it with care, but you will have to have grunt rolls if you really want to survive in the wilderness
i live in a urban area, but i would ideally move out of the city. theres an outdoor/camping store near me, so if shtf i could go there immediately to start looting food and other gear.
how many people live near that store, and how many know what that store has, during shtf people will be looting and you will have to make the decision whether to attempt to loot or look for other means of obtaining gear if you don't have any
We learn through experience what works best and don't, but with that experience comes wisdom, but thinking and prior planning helps avoid hardship
its pretty populated, maybe a few thousand people, not in the 10s of thousands though and the store itself is out of the way. but im aware of the risk and i would get in and out quick with food, gas and whatever else i need, it wouldnt be an insane feat to pull off.
things you might want to take in to consideration while planning, always assume that there will be at least someone there, if not the owner than a looter, what time will you try to get in and out, day or night, do you have a means of carrying the newly acquired equipment back to where ever you camp is located, will you take the time to scout out the area before hand and do you accept the risk that are associated with doing this
This right here is a very good practical fighting knife
K/10
Why the frick do you have a pistol if youre innawoods surviving with a bolt gun.
Youre not an operator
Youre not clearing buildings
Your rifle is more powerful
This thread is bad
Op sucks wiener and should feel bad
Go circle jerk on k
why would I want to clear a room with a bolt action, you just assumed that, that's what the pistol's for, this thread is just a discussion on shtf don't like it then there's the door
Not only is a /k/ loadout thread not political. Your specific set is fantastically retarted. I can tell youve never done any type of survivalist shit.
If its for the memes and bants fine i can be on board with that, but its clearly not because youre trip gayging of all things.
what part of shtf where politicians cause the decline and are most likely the cause of shtf don't you understand, do I pretend to have all the answers no I don't, but I go off from my personal experiences in the woods and military if you don't like that then I can find you a safe space to crawl into
Theres not gunna be an shtf like OP pic related.
I’m already out of town and built a farm, and no, you won’t find me because it’s not on a marked road, and even if you did good luck with the dogs and our guns.
I would recon the area, make sure that the avenue of approaches are not guarded and if the camp was small I would take into consideration of the options I could employ, but this is only to be taken only in shtf and no rule of law, but like I have said previously my goal is to limit human contact no into a meeting engagement
You’d probably alert the pyrenees get spotted on thermal by one of my brothers or me and shouted at before running off.
I can see what you’re saying, but even in peace times desertion is an issue here because the military is SOOOOO GAAAAAY even before the israelite gay factor of the last decade. Probably 2-3% we’re deserting and getting run down by chasers even before.
thermals are only good when the heat signature is not interfered by weather, stand two or be surprised, but then why would I want to take your farm during shtf, your place is probably located near a road, if so then you will have to worry more about your neighbors than me
>3 mile hidden and private drive
>across narrow hidden bridge over deep creek
>through thick forest
>on top of mountain surrounded by cliffs
I’m not even larping
easy infiltration of said property, but then again we are talking about shtf, but If I were you might want to clear just enough trees so that your line of sight to the road is not blocked while maintaing some concealment of the property, your entry and exit are good near ambush locations on you, and if caught on that brigdge becomes a narrow tight and confined kill zone, I'm just saying what vet's do when they do a threat assessment and orm, operational risk management
I am a grunt vet anon, you have no idea how hard that would be here
me too, usmc infantry, deployed to afghanistan in 09, know how and what to look for, near ambush, far ambush, combat patrols, security patrols, LP OPS, guardian angels, military operations in urban terrain, counter insergency, they teach you a lot in the military, but it's own the individual, but like I said I'm here to discuss shtf, not trying to bring you down in any way about your place, seclusion is good, but over confidence in the home will always make them over confident
hes at least over 5 miles from the closest Black person horde at minimum so hes already safer than 95% of america
time and place, that goes for anywhere, the politicans are opening the borders with immigrants and the towns you once thought safe are now being over ran with them, imagine what 5, 10, 15, 20 years until shtf, then that 5 miles won't mean shit
Just saying I wouldn’t want to recon this place if talichads were here
And my house is surrounded by barbed wire pastures
how do you change your IP for every post?
Mobile dragging while driving
thats dangerous dont shitpost and drive please. captchas will get you killed
very based and jelly, how muh does soemting like this cost? is this kentucky? trees dont look west coast
not into a meeting engagement
I don't try to be a prick with people, my experince has taught me when that you can never be truly prepared for anything, all you can do is do your best and remain vigilant, I'm glad that we had this conversation anons, and I learned things from anons that had good things about their perspectives about shtf that I didn't think of, but thanks anons and stay safe out there
Have you bought your long range UHF/VHF radios yet? Get a solar charger too.
PrepHole bandplan
VHF Calling frequency:
148.800
UHF calling frequency:
414.880
Both can be used with DMR using CC:14 TG:88 make sure to be on simplex mode and time slot 1
https://baofengtech.com/product-category/handheld/
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/395942593/
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