Holly shit that interior is bigger than some 1-bedroom flats in London. What the frick? And they just chilling, loader in flip flops and shit.
Frick me I wish that was me
> https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1545433441633722368
PzH 2000 interior view
I wouldn't trust shower shoes for shit. Slip out of those and knock out all your teeth on a piece of equipment, get those men some crocs with the strap.
Why are they manually loading? training?
loader seems automatic, they just need to place the charges? Should they be auto-loading charges too?
no, charges are manually loaded
Are you sure? I read the thing can make 5 simultaneous impacts with its autoloader.
You can shoot 3 rounds in 9.0 seconds once, but the charges have to be loaded manually.
Or you can shoot 10 rounds in a minute once.
Or you can shoot 8 rounds per minute forever.
A round can be SMArt 155mm, basically rocket assisted for more range and it contains two sub rounds.
Once in the target area they fall down on a parachute and search a target which you have programmed in earlier. To circumvent the cluster munition ban treaty they destroy themselfs if the target could not be aquired. The target can be a hard target, say a tank, with up to 150mm armour.
Basically, you can hit 6 hard targets with 3 shots shot in 9 seconds. To make it even more sinister, you can program a trajectory that ensures all rounds hit at the same second.
He only handles charges. The projectile is autoloaded.
So far it was only a rumour, but the Austrians have confirmed that SMArt 155mm was delivered by Germany and is in use.
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It should also be said that KRAB and AS90 are also able to use SMArt 155mm. BAE in the UK has produced something similar called BONUS, but i don't think neither delivery nor usage are confirmed.
There's also this interview in German with the leader of the artillery school that trained the ukies on the Pzh2000.
He's talking a bit about the training later on and also mentions smart ammo.
>BAE in the UK has produced something similar called BONUS
You bongs can't ever stop being insufferable, heh?
i think you're ascribing malice to a simple clerical error.
please check who owns bofors and who nexter is in a technical league with.
>i think you're ascribing malice to a simple clerical error.
No, I don't think I do.
>please check who owns bofors and who nexter is in a technical league with.
Please check the chronology.
BAE had absolutely nothing to do with the design and production of the BONUS round. And still don't.
BONUS was developed by GIAT, Bofors, and Intertechnique.
Trying to pretend it's somehow a bong product is frankly vatnik-tier.
Pic related.
I can see you're right and the bong is wrong, but you still seem a tiny bit obsessed there anon.
I concede this fact anon.
It's just appalling to constantly read bs on the internet, especially in the context of the war in Ukraine, especially regarding french contribution or engagement.
Recently Macron's team even produced some real TV show showing him interacting with Zelensky and Putin to show his efforts regarding deescalation and weapons deliveries. It's frankly obscene to use a real war as material for what looks essentially like a bad netflix show, but it was apparently needed to make everybody calm down and realize the work that was done.
The method may be wrong, the message isn't.
Anon, the bong living in your head is never going to start paying rent. You need to kick him out.
Black person no, i meant the guy interpreted the wikipedia blurbs wrong in a very human and understandable manner. that's why i said it's a clerical error. and it turns that's precisely what happened.
you gotta relax
I think this anon
might mean this (pic related).
Being a meat soldier is obsolete period.
> To make it even more sinister, you can program a trajectory that ensures all rounds hit at the same second.
The computer does that automatically, you just have to push in the charge.
Most charges are smaller than that especially for mrsi.
The boys there are shooting at extremely long ranges it seems.
Makes sense, first destroy what you can, then move a bit closer, again destroy what you can and so on.
However, they don't seem to be that far from the action, they took themselves arty fire already.
If you have some high prio targets and want to spit out 8 rounds per minute (max that can be done with the existing cooling), you need to have more than one handler for the charges, it's hard work.
>However, they don't seem to be that far from the action, they took themselves arty fire already
They might have fricked off to max range afterwards. Sounds like a potent motivator.
Maybe destroying all those depots wasn't all HIMARS >:^)
true
manual charge for trajectory adjustment and wear.
>A human needs to load, they're.much better able to compensate for barrel wear and target distance than any targeting computer could be
1967 called for you, wants their artillery loading paradigm back
Charges require constant changes and having it done manually is really the best option and will not cost much time. The only necessary automation are the shells.
Charges come in different sizes ,so those are loaded manually. You can see it on the gvozdika as well - the shell casings have a FULL CHARGE or REDUCED CHARGE written on them.
>loader in flip flops and shit
at least he's not wearing sock with them
that was a close call
>at least he's not wearing sock with them
That would be actually very German and a nice homage. Imagine getting 155mm fricked by sandal & socks wearing German.
Agreed. The next batch should definitely be taught to wear socks.
Sometimes I don't get the Birkenstock marketing department, now would be the time to shine and build the legend once more. Like send a thousand pairs to select artillery units and become a meme and object of Slavic veneration forever.
Birkenstock has been sold by the family owners last year, its now owned by some investment fund and production will be moved to china.
Naot are better anyway, and they haven't sold out yet.
aww frick
what shoes am I gonna buy for the next 40 years now...
>That would be actually very German and a nice homage. Imagine getting 155mm fricked by sandal & socks wearing German.
>Be Russian artillerymen
>20 km behind the front
>Top tier position, even an public pool nearby
>Frick yeah, even deck chairs, time for some chill
>Suddenly mrsi strike
>As you lay wounded on the ground you see 6 pzh2000 blasting full speed towards your position
>An Ukie jumps out and starts placing their towels on the deck chairs
>Why are you doing this
>Dunno, it was written in the PzH2000 manual
There is literally nothing wrong with wearing socks with sandals.
He’s not Czech, anon
Have you even seen how roomy insode the cabin of the As90 is? It's actually more spacious than Pzh given the fact that it doesn't have ammunition underneath the crew compartment.
that is cozy as a motherfricker
>Someone says that something German is good.
>immediately a bong has to jump in and try to point out that the bongs have something much better
Them Germans sure have a lifetime rent free place in y'alls heads huh?
>y'alls
Flip flops in and around tracked/armored vehicles seems like the dumbest idea ever.
Is it tho? They would have stopped doing it if it was bad or had accidents in the past.
Drop a 155mm shell on your toe and find out
They don't handle shells it seems, they magic themselves out with the autoloader
Why does the unit twink have to reload?
because the gun gets a lot of its flexibility from being able to vary the charges on each shot. you know that clever feature where it fires 10 shots over a minute and the all hit the same target at the same time? making that work involves using a different powder charge for each of those 10 shots.
What's comfier? Working with HIMARS or the PZH 2000
In Anons Youtube link they compare MARS (which is the German rocket launch platform, not as advanced as HIMARS, but better than what the Vatniks have) with working on PzH2000. He says PzH2000 is vastly more complex. You can auto translate the video:
Also mentioned:
Training the Ukies and the problems encountered
SMArt 155mm rounds
COBRA radar to find enemy artillery
PzH2000 armour and that it stood the test already
777/KRAB/Cesar and ammunition compatibility
Comfi, might check if artillery is hiring later.
From germany, with love
Why is it so spacious though?
Because this is the Pullman version, complete with minibar and toilet, Rheinmetall only built only around 60 of those. It's the ultimate luxury class self propelled gun.
And unironically?
Because this is basically a datacenter with COBRA radar integration on chains, as well as a robotic platform for ordnance dipension. It's considered the best of it's class, like HIMARS is the best of it's class.
Watch the second Youtube link.
I get that but couldn't you have made it with less wasted space?
Again, the dudes are basically inside an ordnance dispenser robot, there are lots of moving parts, as you can see. The machine will not stop if you forget your arm in it's path.
That's basically the powder. The "bullets" are robotically inserted.
>That's basically the powder.
You think it would make for a good pillow? It looks comfy...
The entire platform weighs in at 60 tons. It is very well armored and very fast, but you have to consider the roads and bridges, obviously.
I'm not sure but think it's some kind of plastic consistency, not too heavy either, with fabric around it to easily insert into the barrel.
Haunted breadbag.
Not really +freedom of movement is a good thing for artillery.
Most of the stuff that needs space happens unseen. Round storage included.
When the autoloader works you don´t need the space, but I suspect it´s to allow 3 guys to work the gun when the autoloader fails.
It's a German autoloader. It'll work. No testing needed either.
Pic related, Germans amongst themselfs.
>allow 3 guys to work the gun when the autoloader fails
it's german. if the autoloader fails then the transmission locks in park and refuses to budge until the fault is cleared.
Last Youtube video with Gen. Dr. Freudig said they use AR systems in the field to connect back to Germany, if there is a technical fault that can't be solved.
The engineer loads them the right program to fix the fault and the operator (in flip-flops) get's an overlay of what he has to do, while the engineer sees what the operator sees and give hints.
It's fricking science-fiction, from the viewpoint of the Orcs.
does austria even have an actual army? I mean, one with guns and tanks and artillery and shit?
What does it have to do with Austria?
I'm living in a first-world western country and that almost seems like science fiction to me.
If you were a giant loser nerd like me growing up then you probably read a lot of sci-fi. Modern NATO equipment sometimes seems a lot like the sort of stuff from those sci-fi novels I grew up reading. Then I remember I'm typing this on a lightweight laptop computer with a half day long battery life while being more powerful as my high-end desktop computer from 2010, talking with anonymous people all over the planet. Or if I wanted I could do it from my phone, which is pretty much the ultimate sci-fi 'do it all' device.
The future's weird.
and yet i still have to breathe car farts whenever i go outside.
frick this gay planet. cool gadgets layered ontop of the fricking 1940s.
Having connections to industry, I can tell you that this is not a new concept, it has been around for a while in civilian circles, so I imagine the military has already started looking into it.
I presume the turret just needs a certain height to allow the barrel to be elevated as much as is needed for a howitzer, and to allow enough room for the autoloader and the ammo underneath it, so the roomyness is kinda like a wasteproduct. Plus I guess it is also good for morale. It might also look more roomy that it is in real life because the two guys seem to be manlets. I am 6'3'', 285 lbs and have had the chance to stand in the fighting compartment of the PzH 2000 myself and it didnt feel nearly as spacious as it looks like in the video.
>I presume the turret just needs a certain height to allow the barrel to be elevated as much as is needed for a howitzer
That sounds reasonable, I hadn't thought of that.
>Holly shit that interior is bigger than some 1-bedroom flats in London.
You WILL be comfortable .
You WILL be safe.
You WILL be firing precisely.
You WILL be wear flip flops.
With socks.
>You WILL be wear flip flops.
>With socks.
German memes on k?
What's the white pillow looking thing he puts in the barrel?
the bag of propellant
Spicy flour
Yeah, they’re big.
>it has a coax
wow, those germans really wanted to build their Maus and they finally got it
i'm blind, where is it located in relation to the gun?
That dude thought the mg on top is what's called a coax, I imagine.
it doesn't have one, but it should. I want to see this monster in direct fire role, 155mm full HATO popping enemy tanks at point blank range.
Hnnggggggg
>me and my manager.png
Msta-S interior for comparison. Must suck to be a conscript.
I think the rapes suck more than the cramped interior
guess the howitzers interior isnt the only cramped interior
how about both
>Holly shit that interior is bigger than some 1-bedroom flats in London
Ayup. Very comfy to sleep in there with the bois. Especially when its real shitty weather outside.
Some music, the combat interior lights, someone's cooking coffee, peak mil comfyness
>imagine having to share your cabin with the gun
this comment was brought to you by the comfy cabin crew
We also have that option.
And this...
...but also this.
I love the modular system. Absolutely next-gen, imagine batteries of these rolling out to perform a pre-programmed fire mission, all MRSI to delete a grid square.
Russian Tankmen are just really, really smol
It's a recruitment requirement
>Also there are different charges for different NATO systems, all of the used ones are programmed into the computer so that the PzH2000 can use a variety of charges and rounds.
which charges does the Pzh use? Or do you mean charges 1-6 of DM92 etc?
I don't have any details, but i guess the heavier the shell and/or the higher your target distance and/or desired flight time (for timed impacts), the larger the charge needs to be.
What stops you in creating one?
What?
he cute
A webm of OP's link would be nice.
>:^)
Being a tanker makes you feel like a god of war, but sitting in a tracked SPG.... bois, you feel like war incarnate. You become war. The mighty Irion Fist that crushes even the mightiest of enemies.
Trust me I know what I'm talkin about
man, thats roomy as hell
And air conditioned!
Fricking sign me up
Load it faster janny.
Imagine the smell in there.
German technology is equipped with air conditioning, i think.
As well as sophisticated cooling to keep 8 rounds a minute sustained, without evaporating the crew.
it looks quite retrofuture, like alien or something
also kinda funny how in the webm they are going far faster than the recommended firerate, its like 5 shots already in 30 seconds(him prepping shot at the end)
wait, I am wrong. they are going for the 10 in 1 minute or 20 in 2 minutes. perfect firerate. Damn I wonder how you prep the 3 shots in 10 seconds
Can't think about it either. If I recall correctly the standard for the low was one loaded, one in the hands and one propped up on the foot. No clue if that would work with how roomy the pzh is.