>same bolt release
>same long stroke
>better caliber conversion
>better charging handle placement
>guaranteed moa accuracy
uhh XCR bros... our response?
PWS UXR
>same bolt release
>same long stroke
>better caliber conversion
>better charging handle placement
>guaranteed moa accuracy
uhh XCR bros... our response?
Overpriced as frick and I think magwell conversions are a gimmick but honestly based, Alex Robinson is a huge homosexual.
Yeah price is about the same as the XCR-M but it is just 7lbs instead of 9 for the 308 conversion. Isn't that lighter than the POF 308?
No, pof308 is sub 7 lbs.
XCR with lightening cuts inbound any minute now.
Far to many modern guns are shipping without a forward assist because morons sucking stoners dick and its not good.
I trust Robinson will deliver that in the next two weeks right after he sells the white XCR-M that has been in inventory for months. The UXR does have an XCR style forward assist: you just rack it back slightly and drive it home on the charging handle.
I just mean in general anon, im just yelling into the void.
Id actually like Robinson to get their heads out of their asses and do some advertising and upgrades.
That's true especially since it is getting fielded currently in Ukraine. I was waiting for one of the XCR forum projects with an AR receiver to finish but this UXR ships with AR trigger compatibility out of the box so now I'm thinking about getting this instead especially since PWS at least gets police purchases unlike RobArms.
Id feel better about PWS if they didnt suck their own dicks about their barrels when theyre still nitrided.
Nitride isnt bad, its just bad on guns that are being touted as serious military rifles with a military rifle pricetag.
very true that is pretty annoying. Still no better than the XCR IMO since it's just button rifled not CHF. This is a big advantage of the SCAR and the Bren. I would hope that if PWS ever kicks off the economy of scale would also kick in and they would start shipping CHF chromes. I want the Made in USA parts availability with the mil quality but I guess it's not happening any time soon
Chf machine is expensive.
The only domestic manufacturer of chf barrels afaik is Daniel Defense, they probably arent too keen to sell blanks to their competitors.
really? I didn't know the situation was that dire. PWS has been using their autistic proprietary long stroke uppers on their MK1 and 2s so I guess it makes sense they would want to have everything in house. It's sad though.
Fr. Actually I think LWRC and maybe ruger own a CHF machine.
FN supplies CHF blanks to alot of companies but idk if they make them domestically or in Belgium.
I thought I heard something about "sand hammer forging" taking private commissions for the XCR or MDRX or something. I wonder if they would also develop a barrel for this new platform should it become popular enough.
>The only domestic manufacturer of chf barrels afaik is Daniel Defense
Sig is CHF
Sig doesn't sell chf to plebs so they dont count.
There's a few manufacturers that have CHF barrels out there. BCM, Colt, Spike's Tactical also has a few CHF AR models I think, and Aero just started advertising a CHF upper too. Lot of imported rifles are CHF too like AKs.
There’s only a handful of CHF manufacturers in the US. Most CHF barrels companies sell are from these few producers. Unless BCM recently acquired their own machines, their CHF offerings are made by FN USA
ruger
A few more companies have since set up CHF machines in the past 15 years.
DD, FN USA, I think Geissele, Sig USA, I know there prob a couple others.
The ar15 didn't need a charging handle,it was just a me too thing from the army to include it
These quick change conversions are cool but eventually everyone realizes that it's the same price or cheaper to build 4 quality ARs with better accuracy and no need to rezero sights and scopes and zero time to change calibers because you fricking pick up the other gun there that's your quick change. Nobody is going innawoods with a desperate need to be able to swap between 5.56 and 7.62 and blackout and x39 by carrying ten pounds of barrels and magwells.
Is the rear lower the receiver? I saw one of the videos and it seemed like they said the magwell is the receiver but that can't be fricking right. The upper is the receiver on at least some of these piston not-an-AR guns like the scar, I think.
4 ARs just means you have 4 bland ARs. I like seeing more rifles like this, since they're slowly chipping away at the dominance the AR holds over the market.
The upper is the receiver, like with most guns of this form factor.
I'm all for improvement on the AR, namely not needing the buffer tube, but these guns aren't chipping away at the AR market because it's $1200 vs $3000. That's two different markets. When one of these companies stops huffing their own farts long enough to be competitive, well see the ice start to melt. I don't know if PSA is the answer, I think their offering is just a bufferless upper.
no they also offer lower conversion kits and a plethora of 1913 stocks
I meant as a new design versus parts that are deliberately compatible with the AR.
UXR uses AR lower parts with some exceptions though and it looks like maybe the same bolt in 5.56. Idk about the 308 bolt
>AR lower parts
oh boy $30 of compatibility I can put my red anodized homosexual switches on it.
In guns that insist on having quick change barrels, I half acknowledge that the AR barrel extension isn't great for that, but the longer extensions on quick change designs don't lend themselves to accuracy either. On guns that don't have quick change barrels, not using AR-compatibility is just a blatant cash grab. I have dozens of AR barrels in parts bins, I'm not spending another $1200 on three proprietary barrels cut from the same blanks.
There's no need to be upset. These barrel swaps are quoted at 300 for just barrel and 500 total for adding the extra bolt and magwell
buy an ad israelite
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it never happened
you deserve it
it will happen
go palestine
>israelite israelite israelite israelite
<shills for satanic mormon XCR
The mormon fears the Idahoan
the xcr is even more shit
>don't care for the XCR
>don't care for the UXR
why are you in this thread then? just to be mad that one of your tens of moronic spam Ukraine war threads got bumped off by, god forgive me, a weapon thread?
also frick ukraine
I'm here to talk about the uxr. Keep pulling strawmen out of your ass and see if anything sticks instead of maybe not being a contrarian homosexual.
are you nta?
if so my mistake
Why is the upper serialized and not the fire control housing? does it need a different fire control housing for certain caliber changes? if so, this gun is moronic.
That's how the ACR did it. the fgc doesn't need to be swapped because they have magwell swaps between 5.56, 308, and 7.62x39. The fcg does need to be removed to change the magwell though. Strangely they claim that the recoil spring doesn't need swapping between calibers, I think that they're going to go back on that if/when there are problems.
PSA is never the answer.
t. first AR was a PSA.
Doesn't FN make CHF barrels in the US?
moa accuracy
Guaranteed you need to mail the thing to them at your expense when you want to complain about getting 1.5moa and you WILL be charged labor and told you did it wrong when they can put 3 shots within an inch on the 5th attempt. Sirs you cannot redeem.
charging handle placement
Than the XCR? No. The FAL got it right and everyone is just pretending not to notice.
worse than the JAKL
how so? as far as I see it that remains to be seen but everything on paper sounds a bit better.
>better charging handle placement
Lmao no.
And the XCR fixed its accuracy problem a long time ago so it’s also a 1 MOA rifle
Plus most importantly the XCR looks good and the UXR looks like shit.
Pic rel isn’t mine but I’m going to be getting one in this exact configuration and this stock.
caliber conversion
Is this really something people use?
It has been around a while both for rifles and pistols, but every time I have ever looked at it it seemed like a waste.
For militaries they'd have huge logistical expenses to cut over ammo in addition to producing new barrels and in this case maxwells, then installing all that shit. Just buying new rifles would be a small part of the total cost.
For everyone else just the cost is stupid, the parts that would be needed are usually 75%+ of the price of the gun in the first place. Even simple shit like most of Sig's P320 frames are priced insane.
It makes armorer level shit really easy.
Caliber conversion is more or less a good thing for civilians, but I wouldnt pass up a gun you liked if the deciding factor was caliber conversion or not.
For a 223 that thing is fricking enormous.
Caliber conversion guns are not completely shit so long as you stick to one size class, converting a .223 to .308 is completely pointless, a scenario in which it helps will never occur.
That's true it's 7lbs light for a 308/6.5 but 7lbs heavy for a 5.56
>fixed XCR accuracy
so says one homosexual on the XCR forum with no proof. Maybe we could prove it if someone actually bought the things.
Nah. Basically everyone who owns an XCR says the accuracy us 1-1.5moa.
>1-1.5
that's more like what I heard. Once they put the MOA guarantee in writing on the website, instead of just interviews, I'm getting one. Otherwise I'll wait to see what other people say about it on release. PWS is a good American company so it shouldn't take long to ship it to the company for repairs when there inevitably end up being issues with this Gen 1
The pws just looks kinda junky. Looks like a taurus product or somethint. I dunno, I can’t account for it but it just doesn’t look “right”, ya know?
you're not wrong, the profile matches the XCR and ACR a lot and I think it makes this look just "off" like a Glock clone or a Girsan 92. I think some of the problem is that new PWS rifles market to the race gun aesthetic which bled over into this project
>looks like ACR and XCR
Nah. That’s the thing. It looks like its attempting to, but just misses and looks odd for it. The result is it doesn’t look like them at all. The ACR and XCR are pretty cool looking guns. This just isn’t.
PWS might fix it in a few years. The brand is known to go though phases like the cartoon they made in 2014 that they just removed on israelitetube. It feels like the company is finally getting serious
For what it’s worth which isn’t much Garand thumb said 1-1.2 with good ammo.
And their website says .75 to 1.5
looks like a good candidate for full power 6.8x51