Because PSA has become a manufacturing powerhouse. The only other company that comes close to PSA's catalogue is Norinco. No other company is responding to market demand like PSA. No other company can.
It's frankly phenomenal that PSA is able to produce the range of weapons they do, the volume they do and keep QC to an acceptable level. There are companies that specialize in the weapons the produce and still manage to dump wonky pieces of shit on the market *cough*DesertTech*cough*
And then on top of all of their inhouse production on their own branded products, they are able to be a general retailer that gives Brownell's and Midway a run for their money and offering their competitors products and competitive prices. Who the frick does that?
Norinco is not a manufacturer.
Their catalogue also has so much more than PSA's it's not even a valid comparison.
I've got a 1970s SKS and it's g2g so I'm not sure if that's an insult.
Norinco also makes Type81s and they're pretty fukken alright.
PSA seems like a chode white trash brand but if the guns are durable I don't think you can really argue for the price point.
Norinco makes some good stuff. Their SKS's, M14s, 1911s, and m16 clones are all generally decent
“Made in China” has a bad rep, generally. How come chinks can shit out some pretty damn good guns?
because they're just cloning/remaking shit designed by other people
main variables after that are material quality and general QC, but old guns were made with simple machinery by simpletons so they work out well in modern day china that still has sub-zero IQs and 1940s levels of industrialization
then what is Century Arms excuse
Black folk
Because "Made in China"'s bad rep is about 20 years out of date. It's like boomers going on about Jap crap in the 90s.
Now, "imported from China by ShartCo, Inc" has a deservedly bad rep because those things are all made to a price point and ShartCo wants all the profits. Same reason Turkish shotguns in the USA are all shit, it's because the importer wants to pay $50 unit cost.
I've got a Norinco SKS and it's a piece of shit
cardboard stock and ~15% jam rate on account of its shit mag
It's a company run by people who genuinely believe in the ideas of common use and arming the citizenry and all that. The fact that they can do it while also making a shit-ton of money is like a wet dream they're living day by day. You can bet your ass they're not going to let things like poor quality control ruin it for them.
I’m looking to buy my first gun. Is PSA good enough? I just want a rifle to have fun with on a range. I shot for the first time a few weeks ago with a rented gun and now I need my own. 😀
Yes, they are good enough. Anyone that tells you otherwise is there to gatekeep and flex on the poors.
And there is nothing wrong with gatekeeping or flexing.
Put PSA's are functional rifles and best value to money
How reliable are they?
Are they like Hi-Points where the owner wanted crappy & cheap but "reliable" self defense guns?
>How reliable are they?
they are pretty much exactly as reliable as any other AR-15 (perfectly reliable, that is), as long as you don't get one with QC issues.
So outside of what is normal for an AR-15, PSA brand of AR's and guns aren't anything more reliable as firearms compared to other brands and makers (excluding shit like century arms) as a attribute of the brand?
Its probably more accurate to say their products are consistent in quality (outside of lemons) for a good entry level price, correct?
Pretty goddamn reliable. PSA shits out a lot of guns so take it apart and give it a once-over (see israelitetube for procedure), if you don't have a lemon give everything a wipe down with slightly oily rag, lube per instructions and go shoot it. They tend to be a bit over-gassed which is bad for gamers and trick shooters but really good for reliability with all ammo. Expect the barrel nut to be applied by a roided gorilla though, if you ever need that off give the job to a gunsmith or someone else you don't like.
>Pretty goddamn reliable
By a company that
>shits out a lot of guns
So make sure to check it all over and do the qc that they should have to make sure you
>don't have a lemon
>They tend to be a bit over-gassed
Which means they weren't engineered correctly but that's ok because when the bolt travels at light speed she really slings the brass!
> Expect the barrel nut to be applied by a roided gorilla though
Yeah, like I said before they don't build 'em right
At least they're cheap?
Every company lets a lemon through now and then. I don't give a shit if Saint John Moses Browning, Esquire personally made your gun and Jeff Cooper shipped it, you should check it over every time or you're just a moron.
>when the bolt travels at light speed she really slings the brass!
A bit over-gassed, as in tends toward the upper end of tolerances. Tolerances exist in all rifles.
>they don't build 'em right
Not an actual problem unless you want it off. You're not playing reddit dress-up with a basic PSA, you're using it hard until you know where to spend on something better. If you don't know shit and can't hit shit there's no point in blowing a month's wages on the latest instagram meta.
Yeah pretty much. If you find anything cheaper you should be extremely suspicious. We know why PSA is cheap and it's well within the safe, usable rifle spectrum. You will want something better (when you know what that is), but you're also going to want a backup you can abuse or hand off to someone else. At the price you can't go wrong.
>we know why PSA is cheap
Yes, because they’re trash that poor losers use for “muh modern militia”larping. Thanks for confirming.
Have fun agonising about resale value then.
Why would I care about resale value? I’m not some boomer homosexual who buys guns as an “investment”.
Absolutely not. BCM at a minimum. If you want an AR, you should get a good one. If you can’t afford a good one, then start saving up like a responsible adult. If you desperately need a defensive firearm in the interim, get a fricking police trade in Glock for cheap.
lmao you're moronic.
No, you
PSA is fine. Wait for a sale and buy yourself the basic b***h $400 AR, a cheap red dot, some mags, a pull through, and 3000 rounds. You're in for about 2 grand there and by the time you're low on ammo you'll know where to spend further money.
Yeah. PSA is fine.
High-end brands are better - if you buy from KAC or LMT you're not just paying for a rollmark, the guns are objectively better. Are they "better enough" to make a difference? Ehh, for most people in most situations probably not.
What do I mean when I say "better"?
The big difference is quality control. PSA are more likely to let lemons through, maybe the rifling is fricked, maybe the feed ramps aren't cut right, maybe an essential component cracks after 100 rounds. I've heard their warranty department are pretty good so if you're unlucky enough to end up with a dud, then getting it replaced should be simple (so long as you don't discover its a dud in the middle of a home invasion or whatever).
Beyond that, there might be some differences in accuracy, reliability in adverse conditions and longevity from tighter tolerances or design differences such as LMTs Enhanced BCG but they're pretty marginal, especially for a new shooter.
this boaard can't go 20 minutes without a new psa shill thread. i wonder how much they're paying gm for this?
More than Springfailed but less than Q
They don't keep QC to an acceptable level though, that's the thing.
PSA guns will literally always be for poor people to larp with. Seethe and cope about that all you want, but you all know it to be true. If you're stupid enough to waste money on anything they produce, you're just confirming you'll stay a poverty stricken homosexual forever.
>and keep QC to an acceptable level.
I have a 9mm Norinco Tokarev and it's a worthless jamomatic piece of shit. If I get through two mags without a malfunction it's a good day.
It's fun when psagays list off all the cope they use to justify their shitty guns and it just ends up just looking like a bunch of reasons to avoid psa
I'm more afraid of the guy that has a PSA and trains with it than the guy with a KAC that never leaves the safe. Call it a chastity cage the way people keeps their kacs locked up