Protection from small AP mines

Is there a way to protect against those small frickers?
Some special boots, maybe?

They have relatively small amount of explosive, and I think they are the most commonly used AP mine by the Russian forces.
Maybe UE too, since they have 3 millions of them.
If UKies have 3 million, Russia probably has 10 times more.

tbh they are the most scarry weapon, we all saw the vids where guy jumps out of APC, and gets foot blown off before he marches 4 meters.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Toe poppers are absolutely vicious, the US M14 scared the absolute shit out of the NVA but they built them to self destruct eventually, it's unlikely that the Russians did the same.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.moma.org/collection/works/93966

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >https://www.moma.org/collection/works/93966
      those are interesting, but I doubt anyone would use them, I'd be tripping.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mine clearing personnel could, but not anyone else, yeah

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ukrainian engineers use them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They should make them with v-hull soles

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Such boots exist, professional deminers tend to dislike any armor on the feet and legs though. They feel it's cumbersome and provides a false sense of security rather than real protection.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              those look like the least comfortable boot possible

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >v-hull soles
            I think I saw that in a KanColle fetish manga

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Absolutely not. They are tough enough already to stop a toe popper, all a V would do is direct the blast into the opposite lower leg.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those boots were designed in Canada.
          Made so our deminers could walk through fields of Elsies. The original design was based on snow shoes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            elsies?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The evil carrot.
              A Canadian minimal metal mine with a shape charge just big enough to punch through steel boots.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                daumn

                >shaped charge in the Elsie mine ensures that most of the force of detonation is directed upwards. As a result, it can penetrate a 12 ply vehicle tyre or 3/8 inch (approx 9 mm) mild steel plate. A person who has been injured by an Elsie mine generally has a small, deep, circular penetration wound which extends all the way through the bones of their foot and out the other side.

                at first i thought the shape of is designed so that it can be dropped from air by the houndreds like the butterfly mine, and dig into to the ground like a nail.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they use them in ukraine

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not much to be done, individual soldier lives are unimportant.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Some special boots, maybe?
    Reinforced boot has chance to save foot (it would have multiple fractures all over but possible to save with good surgeon care.
    "Spider type" boots may prevent wounds completely but they are cumbersome.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was just thinking about these the other day and how liberals claimed they were specifically designed to look like toys so kids would pick them up and kill themselves.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    iirc for clearing they are scooped up with a really long gardening trowel, then gathered to a safe place for destruction.
    a more novel approach may be to spot the butterflys via UAV, then dispose of them by soaking the area in explosive liquid, and dropping a detonator to trigger the chain reaction.
    sounds kind of stupid tho.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >iirc for clearing they are scooped up with a really long gardening trowel, then gathered to a safe place for destruction.
      Funnily enough, the most widely used method (for both sides) is hitting them with a long stick.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah I saw vines of Ukrainian teenagers gently picking them up puting on asphalt and
        throwing bricks at them

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That doesn't sound very safe.
          From what I understand, the bulging side's filled with a liquid explosive. When it's squeezed, the liquid pumps a trigger mechanism in the cylindrical part. It may eventually reach its breaking point no matter how carefully you handle it. There's no way to visually gauge how close it is to going off, and the tolerances are ... generous. So you might be able to play catch with it for a while, or it might go off when you first pick it up and it flexes a bit from its own weight.
          At least there's barely any fragmentation, aside from the trigger mechanism itself. So it'll usually just maim whatever body parts were close to it.
          The real fun part is that it kind of looks like a toy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The real fun part is that it kind of looks like a toy.
            i think thats a design requirement for the israeli M14-mine procurement

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just don't step on them bro like walk around them lmfao

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Those japanese stilt shoes give you enough ground clearance and then you make the stilt elements V shaped to redirect the energy

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we need power armor and exosuits to really prevent mine and toe popper problems. Would be cheaper to just use mechnized drones at this point and just swap the legs when they go down.

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